Fwd: Re: [talk] change back to old name?

[giovanni_re]

----- Original message -----
From: Jay Sulzberger <ja...@panix.com>
Subject: Re: [talk] change back to old name?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:01:46 -0400 (EDT)




On Mon, 20 May 2013, Ron Guerin wrote:

> It runs on my resources in a local data center, which I pay
> for, so it's basically not much different now than much of the
> last 13 years, during which it originally used VA Linux's
> resources, and for a few years, ran out of a corner of my
> kitchen.

Ron, thank you again for your work. And thank you also for this
answer.

The free software movement requires that we own our machines. We
must also pay for our own Net connections, and we must either be
our own sysadmins, or contract with reliable sysadmins who know
they work for us. That means none of our sysadmins can owe first
allegiance to Google, nor to Apple, nor to Microsoft.

So, how shall we of the movement in New York City pay for our
machines, and for our Net connections?

oo--JS.


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Sulzberger <ja...@panix.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:19 PM
> To: r...@vnetworx.net
> Subject: Re: [talk] change back to old name?
>
>
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>
> On Mon, 20 May 2013, Ron Guerin <r...@vnetworx.net> wrote:
>
>> Considering the previous host was exploited months ago and its
>> operators were aware of that and continued to neglect it,
>> you're expecting an awful lot from them. I'm sure getting the
>> charter done is just eating up every waking moment.
>
> Who owns the machine this list runs on? Who pays for the Net connection?
>
> Ron, thank you for getting this mailing list up and running!
>
> oo--JS.
>
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jay Sulzberger <ja...@panix.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:28 PM
>> To: r...@vnetworx.net
>> Subject: Re: [talk] change back to old name?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 20 May 2013, Gregg Levine <gregg....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Chris Knadle <Chris....@coredump.us> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 20, 2013 13:21:26, Bryan J Smith wrote:
>>>>> I cannot answer for anyone else, but I'm here to be annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the list/subject name "annoyance" pales in comparison to the number of
>>>>> e-mails I post that get sent to /dev/null any way. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bryan J Smith - Professional, Technical Annoyance
>>>>> b.j.smith at ieee.org - http://www.linkedin.com/in/bjsmith
>>>>
>>>> :-) It's been a long time since we've spoken, and I've missed you.
>>>>
>>>> -- Chris
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Knadle
>>>> Chris....@coredump.us
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>> Me? Yes of course.
>>>
>>> Now we need to see what does happen. I know there are a lot annoyed
>>> people out there who want to do something unbelievable and predictably
>>> New York to the toad who crashed our site.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Gregg C Levine gregg....@gmail.com
>>
>> Most Net connected devices should run a general low level packet
>> tracker and near-to-real-time statistics analyzer. In most cases
>> this packet tracker should be connected to an alert system and a
>> cut-off switch.
>>
>> What free software packet trackers are good?
>>
>> oo--JS.
>>
>>
>>> "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
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