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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:25:59 -0800
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Subject: Re: Dry Hopping
From: Gary Hardwick <gary.hardw...@gmail.com>
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I bet that the extra work might yield better results, but I doubt that I
could actually notice it.

I'm too lazy and too paranoid to transfer to a secondary. I usually just
wait until the the 8th or 9th day of my usual 14 day primary ferment and
then I toss in about 25% more hops thinking that some oils will be lost
when the yeast settles out. I try not to dry hop for too long as I've heard
the flavor can get "grassy", but that grassiness should subside after
kegging/bottling .

I tend to think that 3 weeks in the primary isn't too long so I in the past
I've done a cold crash at two weeks then added dry hops for a few days and
let the beer warm up, and kegged or bottled when you get around to it. All
that beer is gone now so somebody must have liked it.

I wouldn't cold crash too early. Even if your gravity is not dropping those
yeast may still be working and cleaning up your beer. If anything thing I'd
warm it up to around 70 then toss your hops in.

Do a split batch and experiment.


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Kable Wilmoth <ka...@wilmoth.net> wrote:

> I have pretty much been doing the same as you (and Chris) but changed
> lately based on a brewing network podcast which talked about getting yeast
> out so that you don't loose all your hops with it.
>
> I typically don't 2ndary, but am thinking about adding it back in, just
> for this dry hop process.  So toward the end of fermentation, (cold
> crash?), rack off into secondary ontop of my loose pellet hops, (if cold
> crashed, raise temp again?) then dry hop for 4-5 days, cold crash and keg.
>
> Seems like extra work, but I really love a good dry hop.
>
> Just wanted to get an e-mail discussion going on the topic.
>
> -kable
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Jeremy Reeves <jman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice question!  I think i've done it similarly each time, but never in a
>> specific ritualistic manner.
>> With the exception of one time, I have waited a good two weeks before dry
>> hopping.  I throw pellet hops straight into the carboy.  I think i have
>> both racked into a secondary and left the beer in primary when doing so.  I
>> have dry hopped for as little as 4 days, but usually no more than 7 days.
>>  On the final day I bottle/keg.
>>
>> Now recently I heard of some people throwing the hops in while there are
>> still a couple of points left, with the thinking that if the yeast is still
>> active that it will clean up any oxygen that has been introduced.  This
>> makes sense to me, but I have been 'taught' that if the yeast is still
>> active it will gobble up some of the hop profile.  Maybe there is a nice
>> balance of oxygen scrubbing vs hop deterioration that needs to be met?
>>
>> JER
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Kable Wilmoth <ka...@wilmoth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what is everyone's process/opinion around here for dry hopping.
>>>
>>>    - Minimum amount, or might as well not do it at all?
>>>    - How long do you dry hop, max days?
>>>    - When do you drop them in, tail end of fermentation to avoid
>>>    oxidation?
>>>    - Do you bag your hops or drop in loose?
>>>    - Do you rack off your yeast and dry hop in a secondary?
>>>    - Do you use pellet or leaf?
>>>    - Do you do it in the keg?
>>>
>>>
>>> I have done it many ways and am wondering if there is a clear 'correct'
>>> way of going about it?
>>>
>>> -kable
>>>
>>
>>
>

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I bet that the extra work might yield better results, but I doubt that I co=
uld actually notice it.=A0<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m too lazy and too para=
noid to transfer to a secondary. I usually just wait until the the 8th or 9=
th day of my usual 14 day primary ferment and then I toss in about 25% more=
 hops thinking that some oils will be lost when the yeast settles out. I tr=
y not to dry hop for too long as I&#39;ve heard the flavor can get &quot;gr=
assy&quot;, but that grassiness should subside after kegging/bottling .=A0<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>I tend to think that 3 weeks in the primary isn&#39;t t=
oo long so I in the past I&#39;ve done a cold crash at two weeks then added=
 dry hops for a few days and let the beer warm up, and kegged or bottled wh=
en you get around to it. All that beer is gone now so somebody must have li=
ked it. =A0<div>
<br></div><div>I wouldn&#39;t cold crash too early. Even if your gravity is=
 not dropping those yeast may still be working and cleaning up your beer. I=
f anything thing I&#39;d warm it up to around 70 then toss your hops in.=A0=
</div>
<div><br></div><div>Do a split batch and experiment.=A0</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 a=
t 12:56 PM, Kable Wilmoth <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kable@wil=
moth.net" target=3D"_blank">ka...@wilmoth.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have pretty much been doing the same as yo=
u (and Chris) but changed lately based on a brewing network podcast which t=
alked about getting yeast out so that you don&#39;t loose all your hops wit=
h it.<div>
<br></div><div>I typically don&#39;t 2ndary, but am thinking about adding i=
t back in, just for this dry hop process. =A0So toward the end of fermentat=
ion, (cold crash?), rack off into secondary ontop of my loose pellet hops, =
(if cold crashed, raise temp again?) then dry hop for 4-5 days, cold crash =
and keg.</div>


<div><br></div><div>Seems like extra work, but I really love a good dry hop=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Just wanted to get an e-mail discussion going on=
 the topic.</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></=
div>
<div>-kable</div></font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Jeremy Reeves <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:jman...@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jman...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


Nice question! =A0I think i&#39;ve done it similarly each time, but never i=
n a specific ritualistic manner.<div>With the exception of one time, I have=
 waited a good two weeks before dry hopping. =A0I throw pellet hops straigh=
t into the carboy. =A0I think i have both racked into a secondary and left =
the beer in primary when doing so. =A0I have dry hopped for as little as 4 =
days, but usually no more than 7 days. =A0On the final day I bottle/keg.</d=
iv>



<div><br></div><div>Now recently I heard of some people throwing the hops i=
n while there are still a couple of points left, with the thinking that if =
the yeast is still active that it will clean up any oxygen that has been in=
troduced. =A0This makes sense to me, but I have been &#39;taught&#39; that =
if the yeast is still active it will gobble up some of the hop profile. =A0=
Maybe there is a nice balance of oxygen scrubbing vs hop deterioration that=
 needs to be met?</div>



<div><br></div><div>JER<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Nov =
5, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Kable Wilmoth <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
ka...@wilmoth.net" target=3D"_blank">ka...@wilmoth.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br>


</div><div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So, what is everyone&#39;s process/opinion around here for dry hopping.<div=
><ul><li>Minimum amount, or might as well not do it at all?</li><li>How lon=
g do you dry hop, max days?</li><li>When do you drop them in, tail end of f=
ermentation to avoid oxidation?</li>




<li>Do you bag your hops or drop in loose?</li><li>Do you rack off your yea=
st and dry hop in a secondary?</li><li>Do you use pellet or leaf?</li><li>D=
o you do it in the keg?</li></ul><div><br></div></div><div>I have done it m=
any ways and am wondering if there is a clear &#39;correct&#39; way of goin=
g about it?</div>



<span><font color=3D"#888888">
<div><br></div><div>-kable</div>
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