Another instance when Im ashamed of Bangalore..

[varun murthy]

I came across this on youtube.. (Im sorry if this has already been discussed here..dunno because its been uploaded by Rohan)..

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=lpRj8UpYTWY&feature=related (Cycling injustice in Bangalore)..its really really shocking to see this..

In the beginning I was amused (the baldy had a problem with the "Chicks dig my ride" shirt)..but when the shoving started,it was really pissing off.. And the mount carmel,christ collge shit was exactly that..pure SHIT..what an idiot..

[Anush Shetty]

We have the most incapable officers at BBMP.  Everytime you meet them, you feel like trashing them and  dumping them into the dustbins.

He is the Tree officer to chop all the trees. So ridiculous.

-
Anush

[Sameer Panchangam]

When was this..

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[B.M.]

this was during the sankranti day morning ride. there is a long thread on this somewhere if you want to dig. or wait 2 days for me to find out. (not that i need so much time - net conn. ia bad).

[PrashantGY]

So called educated people of Namma Bengaluru. I feel like thrashing that black bugger pushing Rohan. Useless and brainless people. and a waste cop watching TAMASHA.

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[Sameer Shisodia]

Possible to use this as evidence and initiate some action/at least approach higher ups at Lalbagh to get an apology ?
- sameer


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[sriram.bmsce]

can someone throw some light on this..want to know how did the altercation start in the first place..cos of the slogan on rohan's shirt..?? if so..then i feel like smashin thse ppl's heads..

[Mayank]

If you have a report on the same and you want visibility kindly post the
same on -

http://www.groundreport.com/

I wudn't say that all officials in the govt are useless as we met Mr.
Gaurav Gupta during the workshop and he really wishes to do something
for the biking community (even with the limited powers vested with
BMLTA). Unfortunately instead of giving suggestions we ended up
suggesting him to buy a bike. Pranav from praja.in suggested working
with the officials with solutions (technically sound) and you would be
able to make more sense at least to those listening. Wanting to try this
approach as well.

Thanks for sharing this video... Will post on Praja.in when free (if
someone can do it gr8). It was gr8 this was captured. Thanks for sharing.

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[CSP]

This is just sad man!!!!

It seems that baldy Jagadeesh had a terrible sex life during his peak
days it seems... He is irritated that no chick ever digged him. I can
understand his feelings... :)

Our country is full of such rotten people....

On Feb 2, 12:44 pm, Sameer Shisodia <get.sam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Possible to use this as evidence and initiate some action/at least approach
> higher ups at Lalbagh to get an apology ?
> - sameer
>
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[Nikhil Eldurkar]

It was captured by a by-stander whom we gave our contact details and
requested for a copy. It was nice of him to oblige.

[Sri.]

Those guys manhandled Rohan , this is horrible.. I am glad we got them
on camera. We gotta teach them a lesson.
Good for nothing lazy corrupt buggers !


On Feb 2, 12:58 pm, "Nikhil Eldurkar" <nikhil.eldur...@altair.com>
wrote:

> >http://zook.inor SMS ur query to 57575665

[CSP]

But I feel even we have something for us all in this.

May be it is not a good idea to sport such things in front of
conservatives. I am not saying that we don't hv any rights to display
such things. In a country like India where people get pushed around
for no serious reasons, we need to be a bit thoughtful. Things could
hv turned worse.

Lalbagh - 50yrs - digging - cycling - Not gonna work :)

> > >http://zook.inorSMS ur query to 57575665

[murali hr]

Nikhil,
I just spoke to the DCF Hubert , he said "There is no tree warden in the forest department by name M C  Jagdish." .
So need to chek if this guy is from Horticulture Department/Forest Department.
Will somebody tell me from which department this guy is !
murali

[Nikhil Eldurkar]

He just said he’s the tree warden at Lalbagh, don’t know anything else about him but for that. I’m not sure it’s worth trying to get even. We want them to respect cyclists. I just hope they don’t get all frenzied the next time they see a cyclist with a helmet. For now that’s the image that they have of us.

 

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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:27 PM
To: Bangalore Bikers Club
Subject: [BBC] Re: Another instance when Im ashamed of Bangalore..

 

Nikhil,

[pras]

I was shocked to see that the oldies of bangalore are so bad at
enjoying a "sense of humour" :|
Man its just a T-Shirt !... We see guys of all ages sporting FCUK T-
Shirts and Sweat Shirts here.. did this gentleman ever question any
one of them !!??

Guys this just gets real funny ... Next time we wear a T-Shirt we have
to carry a Dictionary to explain the meaning of the words/prove its
meaning :)
Check this out ...

dig – verb (used with object), dug, dig⋅ging. Slang.
1. to understand: Can you dig what I'm saying?
2. to take notice of: Dig those shoes he's wearing.
3. to like, love, or enjoy: She digs that kind of music. We really
dig each other.
Origin: 1935–40; perh. < Ir (an) dtuig(eann tú mé?) do you understand
me? and parallel expressions with tuigim I understand (see twig 2 )

[Anush Shetty]

He is probably looking for a job with Rama Sene.. Officer for Morals :P

[Shyam Sundar]

Does any one has the man's address or any contact??
I think he really needs to get back to School.

There is a huge group who don't work and wont let others also work for something good.
I know i would be silly / what ever one calls it to be, but i cycle at least 24 Kms a day to work n back home and some times it even crossed 30 Kms and i would want to come face to face with such guys and dig every thing out of them.

[Ananth]

This is just rampant hooliganism! It's a violation of personal space,
they just have no goddamn right to jostle people around as and when
they feel like it... This should be splashed on the news channels to
see how depraved these morons are! This is just disgusting...
And it's obvious those people are out of their depth! What was that
puerile nonsense about going to MCC or Christ College? When the hell
are they going to get out of their tunnel vision? We should seriously
take those buggers to task somehow. I'll explore ideas and see what we
can do.. The authorities might or might not help... but we should talk
to the media!
(One issue with the media is that we should be a bit careful how we
use them).
@ Rohan : If we are to have an impact against these buggers with
evidence, maybe you should tone down your YouTube video annotations a
bit. What say?

On Feb 2, 4:47 pm, Shyam Sundar <shyamsundars...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does any one has the man's address or any contact??
> I think he really needs to get back to School.
>
> There is a huge group who don't work and wont let others also work for
> something good.
> I know i would be silly / what ever one calls it to be, but i cycle at least
> 24 Kms a day to work n back home and some times it even crossed 30 Kms and i
> would want to come face to face with such guys and dig every thing out of
> them.
>

[Sharath Raju]

Am still wondering what triggered such a rough confrontation from them. Coz nikhil's mentioned they were initially just enquiring.

 

Sharath.

[Nikhil Eldurkar]

Here’s how it started: Rohan and I came out of Lalbagh on our bikes after the last part of the ‘Road safety week....’ event (see attachment). We were stopped by these grand gentlemen and asked whose permission we had to go inside on our bicycles in an offensive tone. We tried explaining to them but they continued replying offensively and that’s how it turned out. We were there for easily over 15 minutes. The video covers only that last 3or 4.

 

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From: Bangalor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:Bangalor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharath Raju
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:16 PM
To: Bangalore Bikers Club
Subject: [BBC] Re: Another instance when Im ashamed of Bangalore..

 

Am still wondering what triggered such a rough confrontation from them. Coz nikhil's mentioned they were initially just enquiring.

[Jagannath Moorthy]

What these guys did was condemnable, they could have easily gone on
talking and resolved this. It did look like the guard acted
unilaterally, maybe to please his boss, That's how the government
works, I guess.

But one thing that bothers me about some of the mails in the thread, I
think by slandering the guy, we are not achieving anything. Is there
anything wrong if he finds a slogan offensive? Everyone should be
entitled to their point of view and just because his views may be
different doesn't give us the right to judge him. Let's take offense
on the pushing and shoving, not the fact that he had a difference of
opinion.

I'm not trying to defend him, but if you look at it from his point of
view, he probably views people with fancy bikes as some rich people
who are far removed from the reality of life in Bangalore. It will be
easy to say screw him, guys like him are never going to get it, but
the fact is that he represents one kind of Bangalorean, the guard
represents another and I think we need to think about how to reach out
to people like them. Maybe, we just need to take the message to him in
a different way. Any suggestions?

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> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:28:17 +0530
> Subject: [BBC] Road Safety Week: proposal to highlight cycling no Wed Jan 12
> Folks,
>
> This week is "Road Safety Week" in Bangalore. Some of us on Hasiru Usiru
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> and safety related issues.
>
> The suggestion is for folks to assemble tomorrow Wed, Jan 12 at 8 am at the
> Traffic Police Park on St Marks Road (opposite the State Bank) and do a 30
> min tour of central roads (something like the Critical Mass idea) at commute
> time. Participants should print appropriate slogans in big font and pin them
> to their backs.
>
> If we can get 30 odd cyclists tomorrow, that would be great. So far about 4
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> this list might be available.
>
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[Sameer Shisodia]

Jagannath,
You've made a good point. Its important to reach out to various people, and understand more povs.

However, those efforts are better made as equals, and not when one gets pushed around. I totally buy that the gentleman may not have understood the slogan, but not understanding something is not reason enough to suspect it and adopt an offensive stance immediately - we must insist that if others seek to engage in dialogue, they do as equals. I in fact am impressed how Rohan maintained his cool with the gentleman, and tried explaining things. I'd have refused to even speak to someone till they spoke politely with me.

Rgds,
Sameer

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jagannath Moorthy <jagan...@gmail.com> wrote:

What these guys did was condemnable, they could have easily gone on
talking and resolved this. It did look like the guard acted
unilaterally, maybe to please his boss, That's how the government
works, I guess.

But one thing that bothers me about some of the mails in the thread, I
think by slandering the guy, we are not  achieving anything. Is there
anything wrong if he finds a slogan offensive? Everyone should be
entitled to their point of view and just because his views may be
different doesn't give us the right to judge him. Let's take offense
on the pushing and shoving, not the fact that he had a difference of
opinion.

I'm not trying to defend him, but if you look at it from his point of
view, he probably views people with fancy bikes as some rich people
who are far removed from the reality of life in Bangalore. It will be
easy to say  screw him, guys like him are never going to get it, but
the fact is that he represents one kind of Bangalorean, the guard
represents another and I think we need to think about how to reach out
to people like them. Maybe, we just need to take the message to him in
a different way. Any suggestions?

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[Aswin M. Sahadevan]

> You've made a good point. Its important to reach out to various
> people, and understand more povs.

Kudos! to Rohan for standing his ground(to be frank, I'd have probably
rode off and called them dickheads inside my head!). Its amazing to see
from all the mails as to how supportive the biking community is in
Bangalore, I don't think any other city has such a community in the
first place.

In order to make biking more popular and acceptable, we should
ride within town(rather than outside) as a huge group on weekends.
Probably head to coffee house or something, get noticed and show people
our solidarity. As they see the numbers increasing, they'll learn that
chicks dig our rides and respect will follow ! I don't know if such
'rallies' happened earlier but being born and brought up in Bangalore, I
haven't seen one. Any takers?

-Aswin.

[Rushi Bhatt]

As Bapuji said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then
they fight you, then you win."

So almost there. I guess like all good Indian sportsmen/women we'll
leave the winning part for another day..

Looks like these folks were on a power trip, and their boss(es) need
to know about this.

Anyway, I think we're all removed from reality in our own little ways.
So put your heads down and start cycling. :-)

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jagannath Moorthy <jagan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Painted Snipe]

Really Disturbing Video

...

On Feb 2, 12:44 pm, Sameer Shisodia <get.sam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Possible to use this as evidence and initiate some action/at least approach
> higher ups at Lalbagh to get an apology ?
> - sameer
>
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[sharat]

note:im gonna speak my mind,its not gonna be the most constructive
thing to say but.....!

@Rohan if i were in your shoes that day i would have so wanted to
paste that guy(the guy shov'ing you).I bet that most ppl would have
taken offence to someone manhaldling them and situation would have
gotten real ugly!--apperciate the man...
you da MAN!!!

peace!

sharat.techie

[Sharath Raju]

That's right Sameer. It's better to save the fight for another day. Else we won't be any different than anybody on that scene. Let's get on with what we do best.

 

Sharath

[santhosh kumar]

ppl i got an idea.... we can show this video in every show or evry program we conduct abt the cycle...even when we go to meetings with the BBMP or anyone , we can show them how these higher authoritis treat us...

Its the best proof wat happened there and its the best proof of how one should react to these kinda situation.

[meetbadri]

We were all in Lalbagh when the whole drama has taken place.
The sad part is none of us were questioned when we were coming out may
be 'cos we had the MLA with us, with all the video shoot from the
press. Hence this was not taken care at that moment itself.
We only came to know about it when Nikhil asked us at Venki's place,
if we had trouble coming out of Lalbagh.
What ever may be the reason and conclusion, this is not expected from
a care taker of a public recreation place.
The very first thing they should be learning and explicitly showcasing
would be "courtesy in their acts" as they ar servicing the tourist
population most of the times. these buggers need some thrashing in the
wake of public behaviour and then they will be OK.
We can do anything that gives us pride as bikers and teaches these
fellow rotten #$%@ers some lesson.

regards,
Badri

[Shyam Sundar]

I do agree with all of you guys. As Ashwin has said, we should be doing rides / events with in the city limits than the outer parts (as i am new to this group, i am not sure if its happened).

We definitely need to reach out to different masses of people. If each one of us do out part i am sure we will succeed. We already have it working with a few people on roll like our man Rahan. It might take some time but will be a remarkable movement when it spreads and every citizen understands the value of a Nation.

Rohan... nice to know u man, wish to be a part of such attempt some time. I have just been cycling all by myself and not been able to join you guys for any events due to work. Hope i can be one among you guys when ever possible.

cheers
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[faiq]

The 4th Bangalore CM can end at the gates of Mr. Tell-Me-I-am-NOT-
listening's house/office.
We find a darshini nearby, have some idlis and kaapi, some photo ops
and head wherever.

Kills two birds with one stone(apologies to bird lovers, i don't mean
it)
1. Shows that there are quite a few "converts" (though, i have
objection to that term; refer www.bikeszone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17119#p17119)
2. All know where the CM ends and the mass remains as critical as it
was when the ride started.

[Deepa Mohan]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM, faiq <fai...@gmail.com> wrote:

The 4th Bangalore CM can end at the gates of Mr. Tell-Me-I-am-NOT-
listening's house/office.
We find a darshini nearby, have some idlis and kaapi, some photo ops
and head wherever.

Kills two birds with one stone(apologies to bird lovers, i don't mean
it)
1. Shows that there are quite a few "converts" (though, i have
objection to that term; refer www.bikeszone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17119#p17119)
2. All know where the CM ends and the mass remains as critical as it
was when the ride started.

Great  idea Faiq! I am a birdwatcher, but I think you can kill two with one CM stone. We just have to identify who this..er..gentleman.... is, and where he lives.
 

On Feb 2, 7:40 pm, Rushi Bhatt <rushib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As Bapuji said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then
> they fight you, then you win."

>
> So almost there. I guess like all good Indian sportsmen/women we'll
> leave the winning part for another day..
>
> Looks like these folks were on a power trip, and their boss(es) need
> to know about this.
>
> Anyway, I think we're all removed from reality in our own little ways.
> So put your heads down and start cycling. :-)

Rushi's words also make a lot of sense to me.


I watched the video and have been reading all the reactions from fellow-cyclists....and have been mulling things over.

Yes, my initial reaction, a very sharp one, was also one of indignation and anger. But I am learning not to react in anger (which is exactly what those people at Lalbagh were doing)...and in my opinion, "they deserve a thrashing" is not the reaction we should have. "They deserve to know better" is more like it. Certainly, it does not seem to me that these particular gentlemen are willing to change their bigoted ideas; but we can, and will, change the ideas of others who are less rigid than they are.

It is a feature of politics in India today that any position of power is equated to being a) above the law and b) a position of being able to lay down, not only the law, but also moral guidelines. Given this situation, those people were not acting unnaturally.

What I am trying to understand is the thought-process that so instantly make them look at cyclists with such hostility. I find that they equate "elite cyclists" with mall-rats and pub-rats, and they assume that they are under some "western influence" (which seems, by definition, to be a bad one. They want all the dollars that outsourcing can bring us but  think that Western influences must always be nasty.)

I was recently talking to a retired Forest Officer who expressed just these views about "these wealthy youths who go around with gloves and cycles and helmets". I listened to him politely and then pointed out that contrary to his thinking, cycling is very much an Indian mode of transport (as we were talking his newspaper guy cycled up!) and that it was a good thing for Bangalore to have more people using cycles as a mode of transport. He was a little disconcerted when I told him that many of the "helmet brigade" he was objecting to regularly go to work on cycles. When challenged like this, I find that most people are NOT going to change their minds in a hurry, but take refuge behind their entrenched pre-conceptions and prejudices. "But, madam," this gentleman finally managed, "they are not like you."  I asked him why he was saying that.

"In one way, they *are* like me," I countered. "Like them, I also use a cycle to get my job done. They commute to their offices, I cycle to the market and shops."  I kept talking to him, and found out that he seemed to object to the cycling gear and helmets. "They spend so much!" he said. I tried convincing him that this was because the cycling gear does improve cycling performance, and pointed out that helmets are a safety feature, too. "I cycle in my ordinary clothes," I pointed out to him. He would only repeat, "They are not like you!"


So...there seems to be some kind of prejudice in these people's minds. I have thought about it, and it seems( to me) to stem from a certain envy that "other" Bangaloreans seem to have for what they perceive as the "IT outsiders" who "don't belong" but "come  here and swank their money about." Well...that peception is not entirely baseless, but these people seem to apply it to a group of people who actually *do* care about Bangalore! 

So I think that we *have* to eradicate such preconceptions and prejudices ONLY by repeated dialogue, by keeping our cool even when challenged the way Rohan was, and projecting the image of cyclists as people who are not elitist, who really care about Bangalore and its pollution.

It's very hard to keep cool when attacked in such a boorish, brutal fashion. But we have to rise above the level of these people, and behave differently.  Very often, after "meeting" the officials of BBMP, we feel drained, frustrated, and powerless. But..the engagement just has to go on.  Attitudes and preconceptions (like the idea that a car and a motorcycle is a sign of success and achievement, and a social step up from a cycle) have to change slowly.

Rohan...I am so glad you kept your cool and did not put yourself, and the cause of the cyclists, in the wrong, by indulging in reacting to them sharply. However, I too would join in the request to tone down your comments on the video slightly; we could certainly use that video in addressing some of the people who are in charge of the city today. in fact, I feel that the video, without comments, could be used most effectively.

A lot of things are mixed up in the negative reaction...the whole issue of our Victorian, hypocritical morals in dealing with women; an envy of people who are supposed to be "elite"; a feeling that a government job confers power and authority without responsibility....so, everyone, be prepared for more such events, sad as that may sound.

We have to remove, not the people, but the prejudices from their mind. We have to destroy them as opponents not by confronting them, but by slowly destroying their preconceived notions and present ideas. We destroy only their opposition, and hopefully, get them as friends. It sounds very namby-pamby, doesn't it? But the opposition, ultimately, is all in the mind, and it's the mindset that's got to be changed.

Would like to hear the reactions to this, too...remember, this is only one person's opinion!

However, I think a complaint about the behaviour of those people should be lodged, too. We are within our rights to do that. No difference of opinion warrants such behaviour and pushing around.

Cheers, Deepa.

[PrashantGY]

Great Idea,

If anybody knows his name or designation, we can find out more details.

Thanks

Prashant

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[Mayank]

> It's very hard to keep cool when attacked in such a boorish, brutal
> fashion. But we have to rise above the level of these people, and
> behave differently. Very often, after "meeting" the officials of
> BBMP, we feel drained, frustrated, and powerless. But..the engagement
> just has to go on. Attitudes and preconceptions (like the idea that a
> car and a motorcycle is a sign of success and achievement, and a
> social step up from a cycle) have to change slowly.
>

After the byking workshop I realized that there may be a few people out
there trying to do something. They asked us for suggestions and I think
we had a good video of how cycling has changed thing for the Dutch. Mr.
Gaurav Gupta asked me for the film to show it to the decision makers. I
remember a presentation or a PDF speaking of how comfortable byking is
in Denmark (or some other country) - I can't seem to find it.

Can we have such interesting documents on the google group or
slideshare? We can share these at least with those showing some
interest. People have been successful at things getting done. Let us
give it a fair chance also.

As for this incident - I had seen some commotion at Lal bagh - I was
bizy enjoying cycling in LB coz one may never get such a chance again.
As of now I have added the video on orkut and I am seeing it spread like
fire... :)

[Rohan Kini]

whew ! Just saw my emails now and saw this LOOONG thread !

exactly the reason why I had not posted about this earlier. One look at the comments on the youtube site kinda makes me wish I had not yet uploaded this. Many ppl would have commented/reacted without understanding what happened (cause its just a small snippet of what happened)

multiple things
- whats the point of posting it if its just going to work up someone else
- even if we do anything, is it for the overall good? Or just a quick reaction to spite at someone ?
Didnt have an answer - hence it was not posted on the group or the blog.

Like Nikhil mentioned the 'discussion' lasted over 15 mins. The video got only the last 3 bits. Ideally I would not like to bother with these kinda guys - no point. But at some point he was ridiculing more than just me wearing some logo plus talking nonsense. I guess I lost my cool and did shout a bit.

But more importantly - like some comment on youtube, we as a group have got to be smarter when someone goes against what you love. They do not understand it. Does not mean you kill them right ? You try a bit, not happening ... move on. Big deal. There are a lot more fish in the sea. And its an ocean out there !

[modi]

"off loaded from lalbagh, uploaded on youtube"

this is the article title in Bangalore Mirror! :)

cheers
modi

[PrashantGY]

What day's issue? modi

Prashant

[PrashantGY]

Hi All,

Got it, its on the 6th page of Bangalore Mirror dated 04.02.2009.

Thanks

Prahsnat

[Mayank]

Cool - getting media attention for our community! :)) A fren is working to get it on TOI as well! :))

@ Rohan

Move on we all do but for how long? :) Some of these people are the decision makers or at least the kind and we need to change the way perceive bikers - a nuisance - some IT guyz/youngsters flaunting it out! They need to understand how serious we are about it and why so?

dodo

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Have a nice day,
Mynk

http://ngopost.org/story.php?title=The_final_inch__film_on_polio_eradication_in_India

[karthik r]

Hi,

Just trying to point out a fact..........Do those morons at Lalbagh realise one thing?That is,we are not doing this for our personal gain.Instead we all want Bangalore to become a cleaner,greener place to live in.

Personally,moments like this make me see RED.

But,another thought though.......................It is people like them with tunnel vision who sit in positions of power and decision making :(

A request to all of you,please do not be ashamed of Bangalore.Instead we should be ashamed of such @@@@@@ living amongst us.

I hope we can soon say CHEERS TO A GREENER BANGALORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Karthik

2009/2/4 Mayank <mr....@gmail.com>

[Abhi]

after seeing the video the first reaction would of that of anger,
frustration and helplessness....
but then thinking for a while took me to....

*. they seemed to be more offended by the slogan on the T, than rohan
n nikhil riding into the park. they weren't aware of what that slogan
really meant. I agree we can not carry a mariam-webster along
everywhere ;)
*. and the major problem seemed to be the language using which rohan
was conversing with them. yes 'English', which instantly makes many
people feel that this english speaking class are outsiders.. can
easily be harassed and nobody will come to support them. I have
personally experienced this thing. as soon as you start talking to
people in kannada the whole scene takes a u-turn... I felt if rohan
had argued with them in kannada things would have been really
different.

I think instead finding who this dark guy is it would be great if we
get his kids onto the saddle and show them how their father behaves on
streets!!!
tedhi ungly se ghee nikalne mein hamesha zyaada maza hota hai.

On Feb 4, 12:07 pm, karthik r <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Hi,

>
> Just trying to point out a fact..........Do those morons at Lalbagh realise
> one thing?That is,we are not doing this for our personal gain.Instead we all
> want Bangalore to become a cleaner,greener place to live in.
>
> Personally,moments like this make me see RED.
>
> But,another thought though.......................It is people like them with
> tunnel vision who sit in positions of power and decision making :(
>
> A request to all of you,please do not be ashamed of Bangalore.Instead we
> should be ashamed of such @@@@@@ living amongst us.
>
> I hope we can soon say CHEERS TO A GREENER
> BANGALORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Regards,
>

> Karthik*
>
> 2009/2/4 Mayank <mr.m...@gmail.com>

>
> >  Cool - getting media attention for our community! :)) A fren is working to
> > get it on TOI as well! :))
>
> > @ Rohan
>
> > Move on we all do but for how long? :) Some of these people are the
> > decision makers or at least the kind and we need to change the way perceive
> > bikers - a nuisance - some IT guyz/youngsters flaunting it out! They need to
> > understand how serious we are about it and why so?
>
> > dodo
>
> > PrashantGY wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > Got it, its on the 6th page of Bangalore Mirror dated 04.02.2009.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Prahsnat
>

> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, PrashantGY <prashan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> What day's issue? modi
>
> >> Prashant
>

> >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:04 AM, modi <modi.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "off loaded from lalbagh, uploaded on youtube"
> >>>  this is the article title in Bangalore Mirror! :)
>
> >>> cheers
> >>> modi
>

> >>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Rohan Kini <rohan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> whew ! Just saw my emails now and saw this LOOONG thread !
>
> >>>> exactly the reason why I had not posted about this earlier. One look at
> >>>> the comments on the youtube site kinda makes me wish I had not yet uploaded
> >>>> this. Many ppl would have commented/reacted without understanding what
> >>>> happened (cause its just a small snippet of what happened)
>
> >>>> multiple things
> >>>> - whats the point of posting it if its just going to work up someone
> >>>> else
> >>>> - even if we do anything, is it for the overall good? Or just a quick
> >>>> reaction to spite at someone ?
> >>>> Didnt have an answer - hence it was not posted on the group or the blog.
>
> >>>> Like Nikhil mentioned the 'discussion' lasted over 15 mins. The video
> >>>> got only the last 3 bits. Ideally I would not like to bother with these
> >>>> kinda guys - no point. But at some point he was ridiculing more than just me
> >>>> wearing some logo plus talking nonsense. I guess I lost my cool and did
> >>>> shout a bit.
>
> >>>> But more importantly - like some comment on youtube, we as a group have
> >>>> got to be smarter when someone goes against what you love. They do not
> >>>> understand it. Does not mean you kill them right ? You try a bit, not
> >>>> happening ... move on. Big deal. There are a lot more fish in the sea. And
> >>>> its an ocean out there !
>

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