mtDNA match in the Azores DNA Project!!!

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Cheri Mello

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Oct 4, 2008, 11:42:10 PM10/4/08
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There's a perfect match with mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in the Azores DNA Project (housed at Family Tree DNA!)

Nicole Rodriques' dad's mtDNA came in.  It matched another man's mtDNA who has been sitting around 3.5 years waiting for a match.  (Remember, both males and females inherit their mtDNA from their mothers, although only the female daughters can pass it down).  They have a total of 13 mutations or differences or polymorphisms (for those with technical minds)..  Eleven of them are in the top 50 most common mutations.  Although the other are two mutations are less common, they are not rare :(  Nicole is stuck with her great-grandmother born in 1884 in Achada (in the neighborhood called Feteira Grande).  The other gentleman had his lineage traced by George Pacheco to 1650 in Nordestinho.  Geographically, they are very close. 

I was able to find this for Nicole from the CCA web site.
Passaportes for Ponta Delgada, 1911-1912, image 1051, registered Aug. 31, 1911, passenger-passaporte number 1160-1989:
Conceicao Cabral de Silva, daughter of Jose Ignacio de Medeiros and Maria de Conceicao, married, age 27, council of Nordeste, freguesia of Achada, domestic, cannot read, going to America.

A couple of lines above is a Maria Cabral de Lima, daughter of Jose de Medeiros and Anna Cabral, married, age 24, council of Nordeste, freguesia of Achada, etc (same as above).

When Elaine Sharp found this Conceicao C. Silva coming into America, to Boston (ship left Sept. 1 and arrived Sept. 7, 1911) she said the the American arrival record listed Conceicao's nearest relative as Anna Cabral, mother.  Elaine, can you double check that?  I don't have that part to my Ancestry subscription.  I have two thoughts in my mind (I shared one with Nicole and the other one just dawned on me).  I know the American ones are on two pages and if Conceicao and Maria Cabral de Lima came off the boat together, perhaps you misread the entry all the way across the page onto the second side.  The other idea is that since these two women are both from Achada they may have the same father but different mothers.  One mother died and Jose remarried the mother of the other.  Although the other woman is not her biological mother, Conceicao may have said that her step-mother is her nearest relative to the American government officials.  Then again someone could have just plain old written something incorrectly.

Thanks to anyone who can help.

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Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada

"E" Sharp

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:51:47 AM10/5/08
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Cheri,
 
I sent you the actual record to your personal email address direct from Ancestry.  It still think its - mother Anna Cabral ? ?  I cannot make out the other 2 names following her name as previously stated.  Maybe you can make them out.  The Maria Lima does not list her mother, she lists her mother in law Rosa Lima.
 
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"E" Sharp

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:26:16 PM10/5/08
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Cheri,
 
Did you get the ship's manifest I sent to you via Ancestry?
 
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Denise1270

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Oct 8, 2008, 11:11:34 PM10/8/08
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Hi Cheri,
 
I checked the passenger list for Conceicao C Silva (her name comes up on Ancestry as Conccicao), Conceicao lists her mother as Ana Cabral Amor Divino of Nordeste and is on the 1st page of the manifest.  There are two passengers with her: Maria C Lima and Maria Lima (child).  Maria C Lima lists her nearest relative as her mother-in-law Rosa Lima.  My thought is that if Maria C Lima's mother was the same Ana Cabral listed by Conceicao, wouldn't she have used that as her nearest relative opposed to her mother-in-law?  Of course it's possible Ana was her mother and maybe she was living with the in-laws and so chose to list her instead. 
Page 2 lists Conceicao as going to meet her husband Manuel Duarte Silva in Swansea, MA and Maria C Lima is listed as going to meet her husband Maximiano C Lima in New Bedford, MA.  Both woman said they were from Feteira.
Hope that helps a bit.
 
Denise D'Antona

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