Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Victorino

[Drv...@cs.com]

Hi
Victorino is the middle name for my grandfather and uncles. My greatgrand mother came from Sao Jorge, she was never married and the rumor goes she had affairs wiith the man who lived on the hill across the road. On my uncles death cert someone gave the name Carreria. All were incognito.

Loretta Aguiar Valdez


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[Guida Leicester]

Loretta, The human interest element of our Island ancestors intrigues me more and more as I watch the posts go up with all the pai incognitos.  The lines and pedigrees on paper can get very confusing, but the multi-dimensional humans behind the lineage is what I want to learn more about.  What motivated/drove these folks?  Hard work, no education, little support from the mainland government, boredon, island fever, boredom, what else/que mais? Anecdotal stories/family legends like yours are what I want to hear/learn more from everyone.  Please forward me your family legends to : chand...@yahoo.com Obrigada, everyone! Guida --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Drv...@cs.com <Drv...@cs.com> wrote:

[Jason Fraga]

Guida, I'm fortunate to have one Grandmother still alive.  She's 82, and was born here in the US, but my Great Grandfather (her Dad) was born in Sao Miguel and came over as a youngster.  He always went back and forth throughout his adult life. 

 

I've talked to her quite a bit about the genealogy thing over the last two years since I got interested in it.  One day I was asking her what the deal was with two first cousins marrying each other in our family (I'm descended from them), and she responded with something my Great Grandfather told her:  "You never knew what the hell was going on in the Old Country, and you didn't ask- but there was always something going on". 

 

Another Great Grandfather of mine on my Mother's side would routinely disappear unannounced and it caused my Mom's Mom, her Mother, and her sisters tremendous hardship.  With this guy, I don't think the wanderlust ever went away- even when he made it to the US from Sao Miguel.  In what should have been an omen, he and my Great Grandmother were due to be married in New Bedford, and he "vanished" the night before.  Four years later he turned up claiming that he was walking past a bar down by the docks and was shanghaied (whacked over the head, knocked out, and woke up on a whaling ship).  He definitely ended up on a whaling ship, but my suspicion is that he willingly signed on. 

 

He would take off for a few years at a time for the rest of his life.  My Mother is convinced that he had kids everywhere that weren't with my Great Grandmother.  I know that some of my Grandmother's sisters never forgave him. 

 

Jay Fraga

["E" Sharp]

My aunt, who just passed away at age 98, used to tell me all the time that my Victor (Vitor) surname gggrandfather was a "casanova" and I know this is true because he had a child with my gggrandmother, his wife,  and 3 months later had a child with his mistress.  This gggrandfather did not come to the US.  I often wonder how many other children he had with his mistresses and I am sure there was more that just this one. 

 

"E"