What the Bible says about Cannibalism

[Observer]

Sometimes God forces people to eat other people, often their own
children or other family members.

"I also will do this unto you... You shall sow your seed in vain, for
your enemies shall eat it." -- Leviticus 26:16

"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your
daughters shall ye eat." -- Leviticus 26:29

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons
and of thy daughters." -- Deuteronomy 28:53

"And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and
toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them." --
Deuteronomy 28:57

"Through the wrath of the LORD of hosts is the land darkened, and the
people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his
brother. And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he
shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they
shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm." -- Isaiah 9:19-20

"And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they
shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine." -- Isaiah
49:26

"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his
friend." -- Jeremiah 19:9

"Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and
the sons shall eat their fathers." -- Ezekiel 5:10

"I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to
be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the
flesh of another." -- Zechariah 11:9

Sometimes the Bible just reports, often with apparent relish, cases of
cannibalism.

"This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day,
and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat
him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may
eat him." 2 Kings 6:28-29

"The hands of the pitiful women have sodden their own children: they
were their meat." -- Lamentations 4:10

"Who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off
their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin
from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as
for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron." -- Micah 3:2-3

"Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well,
and let the bones be burned. Then set it empty upon the coals thereof,
that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness
of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed. She
hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out
of her: her scum shall be in the fire. -- Ezekiel 24:10-12


Observer

The sadomasochictic monster you Christians worship is realy somthing


Ha ha Ha ha ha ha

Psychonomist

[Keith MacNevins]

I don't know what's eating you, psychotic-observer, but I hope it is not contagious.

--
Ambassador From Hell
All rights reserved

[TLC]

Well, eating peep's may not be legal, but christians can dream of
eating the human flesh of their founder and washing it down with a
good gulp of his blood! Some of the early christians cults were into
drinking human sperm, don't think they took it straight from the pipe,
but who knows!

[trog69]

Here's what I think of the bible...eat me!

[Keith MacNevins]

I never heard of that group. It is not easy to swallow all that information you've posted.

[Keith MacNevins]

First we will make you into a burnt offering.

[Brock]

On Jul 3, 3:19 am, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The sadomasochictic monster you Christians worship is realy somthing

You do not do well in your characterization of Him; I believe the
Bible notes that He is exquisitely moral and puissant. :)

As I've noted before[1a]:

The Bible teaches that God has blessed, sustained and imparted all
manner of benefits and truth to each person, believers and non-
believers alike, even if they are not recognized as such and even
though a non-believer has enmity toward God because of sin. God
shares his benevolence in the many ways He sustains our lives. He
gives us each breath, He gives us the strength to earn an income and
provide for our families, He gives us our families. As the psalm
says:

"The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his
works. ... The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their
meat in due season. Thou openest thine hand, and satisfiest the
desire of every living thing."[1]

This even refers, in a general way, to many truths about his character
and nature, though not a specific revelation on the topic of
redemption/salvation:

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his
handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth
knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not
heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words
to the end of the world."[2]

Of course, even some who have rejected God, articulate a view of God's
complete involvement and revelation in the lives of all people. For
example, Nietzsche says:

'Where has God gone?' he cried. 'I shall tell you. We have killed him
- you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were
we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the
entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its
sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from ll
suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in
all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as
through an infinite nothing?'[3]

God is completely associated with, and deeply involved in his
creation. Even to the point that the implication of Nietzsche's
"death of God" premise implies the entire universe is affected:

* "How were we able to drink up the sea?"
* "Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon?"
* "What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun?"
* "Is there any up or down left?"
* "Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing?"

Regards,

Brock

[1a] http://groups.google.com/group/Atheism-vs-Christianity/msg/0154dd6641a2b288
[1] http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_145.htm Psalm 145:9,15-16
[2] http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_19.htm Psalm 19:1-4
[3] http://www.rutc.ac.uk/rjp/rjp14_samuel.htm

[Bob Crowley]

Had God warned pre-World War II Japanese that if they kept up their
violence, that some of them would be forced to resort to cannibalism
to survive, would He have been lying?

He would have been telling them the truth, because that is what they
were forced to do to survive in some of their isolated battle fields.
They had run out of supplies and there was nothing left but the dead -
both their own and that of the enemy.

Those statements were warnings about what would happen if they kept
going along a certain line.

My old pre-Catholic era Protestant pastor used to find that things he
said tended to happen. Several things he's said he thought would
happen in my life have indeed happened. This is despite the fact he
died in 1992.

Now one of the things he told me he felt guilty about was when he
warned a young bloke in his congregation that if he didn't stop riding
his motor bike so stupidly and recklessly, he "wouldn't last two
weeks". He wished he'd warned him some other way, because he buried
him precisely two weeks later. As I said he found things that he said
tended to happen.

Was the pastor being sadomasochistic and cruel by warning him of the
consequences if he kept going the way he was?

> [1a]http://groups.google.com/group/Atheism-vs-Christianity/msg/0154dd6641...
> [1]http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_145.htmPsalm 145:9,15-16
> [2]http://www.carm.org/kjv/Psalms/Psalm_19.htmPsalm 19:1-4
> [3]http://www.rutc.ac.uk/rjp/rjp14_samuel.htm

[4praise]

> Sometimes God forces...

God has never forced anyone to do anything. God is pro choice :-)

None of the verses that you quote say anything about anyone being
forced to be a cannibal.

Some of those verses are metaphorical pictures of coming judgments and
illustrations and some are reports of actual horrifying events.

None of them condone cannibalism.

[Observer]

On Jul 8, 11:56 pm, Bob Crowley <bobcrow...@acenet.net.au> wrote:
> Had God warned pre-World War II Japanese that if they kept up their
> violence, that some of them would be forced to resort to cannibalism
> to survive, would He have been lying?

Observer
Had there been a christian version of a god then the whole bible would
not be a lie.
Unfortunately there is no reason to believe in the object of your
hideous superstition.

Th discuss what it would do if it existed is inane.

>
> He would have been telling them the truth, because that is what they
> were forced to do to survive in some of their isolated battle fields.
> They had run out of supplies and there was nothing left but the dead -
> both their own and that of the enemy.
>
> Those statements were warnings about what would happen if they kept
> going along a certain line.
>
> My old pre-Catholic era Protestant pastor used to find that things he
> said tended to happen.  Several things he's said he thought would
> happen in my life have indeed happened.  This is despite the fact he
> died in 1992.
>
> Now one of the things he told me he felt guilty about was when he
> warned a young bloke in his congregation that if he didn't stop riding
> his motor bike so stupidly and recklessly, he "wouldn't last two
> weeks".  He wished he'd warned him some other way, because he buried
> him precisely two weeks later.  As I said he found things that he said
> tended to happen.
>
> Was the pastor being sadomasochistic and cruel by warning him of the
> consequences if he kept going the way he was?

Observer
Here is an example of sadomasochism this fictive inept sadomasochistic
monster according to legend had it's self/it's son tortured to death
to save us from it's own hideous wrath.

This kind of conceptualization of a Deity would be the ultimate insult
to an actual Deity , as would the entire filthy rag called the bible.

I can just imagine it now A stupid fucking catholic christian trying
to justify the filth of the bible to a real deity.

Ha Ha Ha Ha ha

I was a catholic and understand the horrors there of as inflicted upon
the world other christians and catholics themselves.

If you like I can keep you busy for for a very long time reading
documentation of such.

Regards

Psychonomist

> > [3]http://www.rutc.ac.uk/rjp/rjp14_samuel.htm- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Observer]

On Jul 9, 12:35 am, 4praise <re...@rawministry.org> wrote:
> > Sometimes God forces...
>
> God has never forced anyone to do anything.  God is pro choice :-)

Observer
Look you stupid fuck I did not say that god does anything I mearly
poinbted out the filth in your dumb ass book of myths.

>
> None of the verses that you quote say anything about anyone being
> forced to be a cannibal.
>
> Some of those verses are metaphorical pictures of coming judgments and
> illustrations and some are reports of actual horrifying events.

Observer
Oh yes anything that you don't understand or is obviously stupid in
the bible is a metaphor.

Psychonomist

>
> None of them condone cannibalism.
>

> > Psychonomist- Hide quoted text -

[Dag Yo]

> > Sometimes God forces...
>
> God has never forced anyone to do anything. God is pro choice :-)

Sounds like you need to study up on your bible a bit 4praise, your
bible say that God definitely forces people to do things.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/hardened.html

On Jul 9, 12:35 am, 4praise <re...@rawministry.org> wrote:

[4praise]

Oh no! How could that puzzle possibly be explained???

If my simple comments provoked Observer to hurl foul insults at me did
I cause him to do it? You could say that that I did. But he made the
choice to do it. So it's true that I caused Observer to curse at me.
But it's also true that Observer chose to curse at me.

God placed Pharaoh between a rock and hard place - so you can
accurately say that God hardened Pharaoh's heart because he brought
about the circumstances but Pharaoh had a choice in the matter.

[Dag Yo]

Now that you're aware of the error in your statement why not refine it
so that you're telling the truth?

Just change: "God has never forced anyone to do anything. God is pro
choice :-)"
to: "God has rarely forces anyone to do anything. God is mostly pro
choice :-)".

And then you won't be lying to Observer.

[Brock Organ]

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:43 AM, 4praise <re...@rawministry.org> wrote:
>
> Oh no! How could that puzzle possibly be explained???
>
> If my simple comments provoked Observer to hurl foul insults at me did
> I cause him to do it? You could say that that I did. But he made the
> choice to do it. So it's true that I caused Observer to curse at me.
> But it's also true that Observer chose to curse at me.
>
> God placed Pharaoh between a rock and hard place - so you can
> accurately say that God hardened Pharaoh's heart because he brought
> about the circumstances but Pharaoh had a choice in the matter.

You've accurately identified an important issue, 4praise.

You can even see it in the active/passive voicing with which many
atheists communicate and respond. When any particular action is a
"good" thing, atheists associate their ego with it, and talk about how
they acted, how they chose and decided. When a bad thing occurs, they
talk about the evil of the circumstances, or of God, or of society, or
the religious right, they seldom take personal responsibility then.

> If my simple comments provoked Observer to hurl foul insults at me did
> I cause him to do it?

What an insightful question. :)

Regards,

Brock