it. The end.
> > NASA: "In general, trying to prove events that are said to have
> > occurred in the Bible, using scientific principles, doesn't work. Most
> > scientists draw a clear distinction between things that are taken on
> > faith, and those that are testable and therefore falsifiable. Science
> > deals with the latter, and religion with the former."
> In general. However, this does not apply to this specific model. NASA
> does not read the Bible regularly. I do. I have provided the Bible
> context and the Bible dates for these sun miracles. These are exact
> dates, a specific model and the complete context for these sun
> miracles. God left no physical evidence. Yet this model is testable
> and true to my understanding of physics. You do not need to be a
> scientist to understand it.
> Andrew Bennett
> On Oct 13, 10:46 am, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 11, 10:04 pm, Andrew3637 <s...@sunnyokanagan.com> wrote:
> > > This account in Judges tells us all the neighboring tribes pitched in.
> > > I have a difficult time running in a full moon. I might trip just
> > > walking. I don't think Gideon could have done it with just moon light.
> > > Judges
> > > 007:009
> > > And it came to pass the same night,
> > > that the LORD said unto him, Arise,
> > > get thee down unto the host; for I have
> > > delivered it into thine hand.
> > > 007:019
> > > So Gideon, and the hundred men that
> > > were with him, came unto the outside
> > > of the camp in the beginning of the
> > > middle watch; and they had but newly
> > > set the watch: and they blew the
> > > trumpets, and brake the pitchers that
> > > were in their hands.
> > > 007:020
> > > And the three companies blew the
> > > trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and
> > > held the lamps in their left hands, and
> > > the trumpets in their right hands to blow
> > > withal: and they cried, The sword of the
> > > LORD, and of Gideon.
> > > 007:021
> > > And they stood every man in his place
> > > round about the camp; and all the host
> > > ran, and cried, and fled.
> > > 007:022
> > > And the three hundred blew the
> > > trumpets, and the LORD set every
> > > man's sword against his fellow, even
> > > throughout all the host: and the host fled
> > > to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the
> > > border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath.
> > > 007:023
> > > And the men of Israel gathered
> > > themselves together out of Naphtali,
> > > and out of Asher, and out of all
> > > Manasseh, and pursued after the
> > > Midianites.
> > > 007:024
> > > And Gideon sent messengers
> > > throughout all mount Ephraim, saying,
> > > come down against the Midianites, and
> > > take before them the waters unto
> > > Bethbarah and Jordan. Then all the
> > > men of Ephraim gathered themselves
> > > together, and took the waters unto
> > > Bethbarah and Jordan.
> > > 007:025
> > > And they took two princes of the
> > > Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb; and they
> > > slew Oreb upon the rock Oreb, and
> > > Zeeb they slew at the winepress of
> > > Zeeb, and pursued Midian, and
> > > brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to
> > > Gideon on the other side Jordan.
> > > 008:001
> > > And the men of Ephraim said unto him,
> > > Why hast thou served us thus, that thou
> > > calledst us not, when thou wentest to
> > > fight with the Midianites? And they did
> > > chide with him sharply.
> > > 008:002
> > > And he said unto them, What have I
> > > done now in comparison of you? Is not
> > > the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim
> > > better than the vintage of Abiezer?
> > > 008:003
> > > God hath delivered into your hands the
> > > princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb: and
> > > what was I able to do in comparison of
> > > you? Then their anger was abated
> > > toward him, when he had said that.
> > > 008:004
> > > And Gideon came to Jordan, and
> > > passed over, he, and the three hundred
> > > men that were with him, faint, yet
> > > pursuing them.
> > > 008:005
> > > And he said unto the men of Succoth,
> > > Give, I pray you, loaves of bread unto
> > > the people that follow me; for they be
> > > faint, and I am pursuing after Zebah
> > > and Zalmunna, kings of Midian.
> > > 008:006
> > > And the princes of Succoth said, Are
> > > the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now
> > > in thine hand, that we should give bread
> > > unto thine army?
> > > 008:007
> > > And Gideon said, Therefore when the
> > > LORD hath delivered Zebah and
> > > Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will
> > > tear your flesh with the thorns of the
> > > wilderness and with briers.
> > > 008:008
> > > And he went up thence to Penuel, and
> > > spake unto them likewise: and the men
> > > of Penuel answered him as the men of
> > > Succoth had answered him.
> > > 008:009
> > > And he spake also unto the men of
> > > Penuel, saying, When I come again in
> > > peace, I will break down this tower.
> > > 008:010
> > > Now Zebah and Zalmunna were in
> > > Karkor, and their hosts with them,
> > > about fifteen thousand men, all that
> > > were left of all the hosts of the children
> > > of the east: for there fell an hundred and
> > > twenty thousand men that drew sword.
> > > 008:011
> > > And Gideon went up by the way of
> > > them that dwelt in tents on the east of
> > > Nobah and Jogbehah, and smote the
> > > host; for the host was secure.
> > > 008:012
> > > And when Zebah and Zalmunna fled,
> > > he pursued after them, and took the
> > > two kings of Midian, Zebah and
> > > Zalmunna, and discomfited all the host.
> > > 008:013
> > > And Gideon the son of Joash returned
> > > from battle before the sun was up,
> > > How could Gideon do all this in the five hours from midnight to
> > > sunrise? God told Gideon
> > > 007:009
> > > And it came to pass the same night,
> > > that the LORD said unto him, Arise,
> > > get thee down unto the host; for I have
> > > delivered it into thine hand.
> > > Thus timing was everything. When the sun must return half an orbit
> > > later at exactly 2AM timing is everything. God can move the sun at
> > > will. It is his creation.
> > > There is no other way. This is the model. There is no other model.
> > > > > This
> > > > > calculation would not cover any time before the present, so some
> > > > > missing day many centuries ago, if it had occurred, could not be
> > > > > uncovered with this method.
> > > I have shown the method. NASA had access to everything I had access to
> > > when I discovered it.
> > I'll try again. Here's a quote from NASA in the article for which YOU
> > provided a link:
> > NASA: "In general, trying to prove events that are said to have
> > occurred in the Bible, using scientific principles, doesn't work. Most
> > scientists draw a clear distinction between things that are taken on
> > faith, and those that are testable and therefore falsifiable. Science
> > deals with the latter, and religion with the former."
> > NASA, by definition, does not agree with you. They do not conclude
> > from any evidence that God made the earth stop rotating. You should
> > address why you implied that they did.> Andrew Bennett
> > > On Oct 11, 6:54 pm, Stonethatbleeds <fb...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> > > > I agree, IAM never once ever made anything happen outside the laws of
> > > > physics.
> > > > 300 men can't kill 120,000 running people away from them in all
> > > > directions.
> > > > The only time the sun ever does anything irractic in the skies is when
> > > > a pole shift take place or the surface of the Earth moves off the
> > > > steady orbit pattern that we do know took place in the past but never
> > > > even close the the dates given.
> > > > We saw the USA destroy how many bunkers in Iraq when they reached the
> > > > capital... do you really think there was nobody in the complete
> > > > network of bunkers set to protect people in just such an event? USA
> > > > said almost no one
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