A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
thousand discs to complete the work.
They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
happy because they just did god's work.
What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
words come alive.
If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
child?
If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
children?
> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> thousand discs to complete the work.
> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> happy because they just did god's work.
> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> words come alive.
> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> child?
> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> children?
As an atheist, I would feel obligated to provide it with a XXX rating and
restrict it's access to Porn sites only (Lot's daughters would be just one
example of why).
> Who would buy this work?
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
"Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
Supreme Court Justice
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> > equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> > hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> > thousand discs to complete the work.
> > They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> > every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> > from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> > then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> > happy because they just did god's work.
> > What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> > words come alive.
> > If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> > If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> > child?
> > If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> > according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> > children?
> As an atheist, I would feel obligated to provide it with a XXX rating and
> restrict it's access to Porn sites only (Lot's daughters would be just one
> example of why).
> > Who would buy this work?
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice- Hide quoted text -
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> > A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> > equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> > hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> > thousand discs to complete the work.
> > They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> > every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> > from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> > then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> > happy because they just did god's work.
> > What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> > words come alive.
> > If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> > If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> > child?
> > If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> > according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> > children?
> As an atheist, I would feel obligated to provide it with a XXX rating and
> restrict it's access to Porn sites only (Lot's daughters would be just one
> example of why).
> > Who would buy this work?
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice- Hide quoted text -
> On Nov 29, 7:04 pm, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> > > A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> > > equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> > > hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> > > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > > bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> > > thousand discs to complete the work.
> > > They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> > > every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> > > from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> > > then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> > > happy because they just did god's work.
> > > What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> > > words come alive.
> > > If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> > > If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> > > child?
> > > If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> > > according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> > > children?
> > As an atheist, I would feel obligated to provide it with a XXX rating and
> > restrict it's access to Porn sites only (Lot's daughters would be just
> one
> > example of why).
> > > Who would buy this work?
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
"Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
Supreme Court Justice
I wonder how long it would take for a religious leader to denounce the
movie as a distortion even though you can read the bible as you go but
selecting the captions options.
Also, I think this could work on the casual theist. They'd actually
see what they've been defending.
On Nov 29, 9:58 pm, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> thousand discs to complete the work.
> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> happy because they just did god's work.
> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> words come alive.
> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> child?
> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> children?
> On Nov 29, 8:04 pm, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> > > A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> > > equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> > > hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> > > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > > bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> > > thousand discs to complete the work.
> > > They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> > > every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> > > from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> > > then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> > > happy because they just did god's work.
> > > What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> > > words come alive.
> > > If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> > > If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> > > child?
> > > If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> > > according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> > > children?
> > As an atheist, I would feel obligated to provide it with a XXX rating and
> > restrict it's access to Porn sites only (Lot's daughters would be just
> one
> > example of why).
> > > Who would buy this work?
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
"Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
Supreme Court Justice
Did you know that in the early days film there were at least a couple
of relatively risque movies that were reenactments of bible scenarios
because to film such acts otherwise would have resulted in a banning
of the film?
On Nov 29, 6:58 pm, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> thousand discs to complete the work.
> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> happy because they just did god's work.
> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> words come alive.
> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> child?
> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> children?
> On Nov 29, 6:58 pm, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > bible,
Accurate? LOL which version? the Greek, Hebrew, King James? Kind of
had to really be accurate when you're making a movie about a book of
mythology that has several different versions.
>What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
>words come alive.
Considering all of the rape, genocide, murder, sex etc loaded in the
pages of the bible, It's have to be X rated and relegated to seedy
theaters, peep shows and the DVD market. God is only a myth created by
humans, so there's no reason it couldn't be rated R or X.
> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> thousand discs to complete the work.
> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> happy because they just did god's work.
> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> words come alive.
> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> child?
> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> children?
> Who would buy this work?
Mel Gibson's already made half of this snuff flick.
I hear many theist say that the bible is the worlds most perfect
book. I was wondering what would happen if someone picked one version
of the bible, say the King James version, and made an exact movie of
it.
Would theists buy the movie to show to their kids or condemn it?
How many would say that it is a distortion when you could read the
bible on the screen as you were watching the movie?
If the bible is a perfect book why not let small children watch it?
Would all of the religious groups that fight for family tv praise the
bible or condemn it?
On Dec 1, 8:39 am, Saint Onan <gigacy...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 1:58 pm, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> > equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> > hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> > A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> > bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> > thousand discs to complete the work.
> > They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> > every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> > from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> > then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> > happy because they just did god's work.
> > What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> > words come alive.
> > If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> > If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> > child?
> > If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> > according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> > children?
> > Who would buy this work?
> Mel Gibson's already made half of this snuff flick.- Hide quoted text -
"Labeling Atheists
Some Christians have labeled atheists as stupid, devil-worshippers, or
morally void. Though there may be some atheists who fit these
categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not
categorically stupid, devil-worshipping, degenerates with no morals.
Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient.
For a Christian, or anyone for that matter, to make a blanket
statement about atheists in a derogatory manner is wrong. It is the
same thing atheists sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being
irrational, psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on
either side of the argument of truth.
Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought
through their position over a long period of time and arrive at
conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in religious homes,
have seen what religion has to offer, and have rejected it. Of course,
I think that atheists have drawn incorrect conclusions about God, but
it doesn't mean they are dumb. Some atheists have presented very
cogent arguments against the existence of God, which need to be
addressed.
So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who
doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid. Labeling and
name-calling have no place in the discussion.
Ignoring Atheists' Questions
If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your
way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive will not make it go
away. If an atheist asks a question and you ignore it repeatedly, it
would be fair for him to conclude you were incapable of answering the
objection. Of course, this does not mean you have to always answer
everything because dialogue flows both ways. But, it is important
that you face issues. If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's
okay. It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an
answer. Go study and get an answer and get back to him.
Stating that Atheism is a religion
Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A
religion almost always is defined to include belief in a deity of some
sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't necessarily a "belief
that there is no God," (though it can be)but is "not believing either
way."
To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to
effective communication. It would be like someone saying to a
Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who likes to
torture people." The Christian would simply roll his eyes and think
that the person doesn't know what he's talking about. So, how much
effective conversation could there be in either instance? Not much.
Stating unsupportable facts
No one has all documentation for everything they say. It is not
reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything said.
Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is good to
have the documentation at the tip of your tongue -- at least
occasionally, of have access to it. It adds to your credibility. Of
course, you don't have to document everything, but if you have some
illustrious fact to use, try and have it documented.
Never admitting when you are wrong
Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages.
It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no place in the
Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being prideful.
If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong is something, be kind and
courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go on. Everyone makes
mistakes, even atheists. There is nothing wrong with admitting an
error. It no more proves you are wrong about Christianity than being
wrong about the color of a boat means boats don't exist. But, if you
never admit when you are wrong, you will not be able to convince
anyone in a discussion of your position. You will simply lose the
respect of the one with whom you are debating."
The essence of the medium contradicts this - if you intend to make a
profit. In my original set up, I stated that the producers were
making a high quality cartoon for very little money because of future
advances in technology. The people making it are true believers who
are making a video bible as a labor of love. If they are willing to
make the bible on 100 or even a thousand 2 hour discs, they could make
a movie and leave nothing out. They may even distribute it on the
internet for a nominal sum to cover costs.
My major question is, what would the reaction of theist be to making
the bible more accessable to people? When the bible was translated
from Latin into English, many people complained and there were even
laws passed against it. Catholic mass used to be in Latin and many
people complained bitterly about the change to English.
Would theist generally welcome or condemn an honest video version of
the bible?
What would the media do?
There are many beautiful parts of the bible but there are also many
terrifying parts.
On Dec 1, 9:02 pm, Brock <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
*Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
massive slavery and bondage with brutality (non-graphic)
individualized events of brutality, repeated
threat with an axe
dead child (Pharaoh's son) (non-graphic)
threat to kill many
drowning deaths of hundreds (somewhat graphic)
many deaths (few seen) as a consequence of evil doings
theft of food
death by crumbling faulty concrete work due to cheating
attempted suicide by firearm
firearm for offense
threat of physical harm to control a woman
gunfire murder (non-graphic)
dead body (non-graphic)
defensive threat to kill
aiding and abetting a felon
illegal flight to escape lawful capture
contemplation of suicide
death by storm at sea (non-graphic)
*Impudence/Hate (I)*
disregard for human life
teaching son arrogance and brutality and encouraging them (Pharaoh's son),
multiple
son's arrogance and impudence at mother teaching the Bible, repeatedly
lies, various
bribing to cheat
cheating by using substandard construction material
lie to protect adulterous relationship
one use of the three/four letter word vocabulary
*Sexual Immorality (S)*
long sequence of orgy and sexual revelry, no nudity
inappropriate touch
sexual innuendo
*Offense to God (O)*
idolatry, repeatedly
worshiping of false gods
seeking vengeance
denying God's Word to excuse sin, repeatedly
mockery of God's Grace and power
condemning God's Word
adultery
coveting others for selfish gain
*Murder/Suicide (M)*
one gunfire murder
Final score: 65
---------------------------------------------
The Passion of the Christ:
*Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
fighting
ear amputation
beating, repeatedly, frequent, including after recent beatings, most
intensely graphic and realistic
physical brutality, repeatedly, often and increasingly brutal
facial injuries from beatings/brutality
brutal vicious whipping with graphic injuries, ripping flesh, repeatedly
driving thorns into scalp
intensely graphic full-body gore, repeatedly, frequently
crowd control beatings, repeatedly
crowd brutalization of near-dead Jesus
continued beatings/whippings of our already mutilated Lord
kicking our near-dead Lord
hand/foot impalement with spikes
a crow pecking the eyes of the thief to Jesus' right (the one who mocked
Jesus as He hung on the Cross)
spear impalement with exudates
*Impudence/Hate (I)*
tormenting by children (who were cast as controlled by Satan)
mockery of our Lord, repeatedly
crowd lusting after killing Jesus
lusting after sadistic brutality
flash nudity, clearly non-sexual but nudity nonetheless
*Offense to God (O)*
flashes of grotesque demons
images of children as demons
calling Jesus a fool repeatedly [Matt. 5:22]
attempts of Satan to tempt and control our Lord and events that would impede
Him
*Murder/Suicide (M)*
suicide of Judas
murder of our Lord
Final score: 69
So it seems it wouldn't be approved of very highly by conservatives.
(by the way, if you haven't encountered CAP movie reviews, you're in for a
treat)
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
> thousand discs to complete the work.
> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
> happy because they just did god's work.
> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
> words come alive.
> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
> child?
> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
> children?
> *Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
> massive slavery and bondage with brutality (non-graphic)
> individualized events of brutality, repeated
> threat with an axe
> dead child (Pharaoh's son) (non-graphic)
> threat to kill many
> drowning deaths of hundreds (somewhat graphic)
> many deaths (few seen) as a consequence of evil doings
> theft of food
> death by crumbling faulty concrete work due to cheating
> attempted suicide by firearm
> firearm for offense
> threat of physical harm to control a woman
> gunfire murder (non-graphic)
> dead body (non-graphic)
> defensive threat to kill
> aiding and abetting a felon
> illegal flight to escape lawful capture
> contemplation of suicide
> death by storm at sea (non-graphic)
> *Impudence/Hate (I)*
> disregard for human life
> teaching son arrogance and brutality and encouraging them (Pharaoh's son),
> multiple
> son's arrogance and impudence at mother teaching the Bible, repeatedly
> lies, various
> bribing to cheat
> cheating by using substandard construction material
> lie to protect adulterous relationship
> one use of the three/four letter word vocabulary
> *Sexual Immorality (S)*
> long sequence of orgy and sexual revelry, no nudity
> inappropriate touch
> sexual innuendo
> *Offense to God (O)*
> idolatry, repeatedly
> worshiping of false gods
> seeking vengeance
> denying God's Word to excuse sin, repeatedly
> mockery of God's Grace and power
> condemning God's Word
> adultery
> coveting others for selfish gain
> *Murder/Suicide (M)*
> one gunfire murder
> Final score: 65
> ---------------------------------------------
> The Passion of the Christ:
> *Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
> fighting
> ear amputation
> beating, repeatedly, frequent, including after recent beatings, most
> intensely graphic and realistic
> physical brutality, repeatedly, often and increasingly brutal
> facial injuries from beatings/brutality
> brutal vicious whipping with graphic injuries, ripping flesh, repeatedly
> driving thorns into scalp
> intensely graphic full-body gore, repeatedly, frequently
> crowd control beatings, repeatedly
> crowd brutalization of near-dead Jesus
> continued beatings/whippings of our already mutilated Lord
> kicking our near-dead Lord
> hand/foot impalement with spikes
> a crow pecking the eyes of the thief to Jesus' right (the one who mocked
> Jesus as He hung on the Cross)
> spear impalement with exudates
> *Impudence/Hate (I)*
> tormenting by children (who were cast as controlled by Satan)
> mockery of our Lord, repeatedly
> crowd lusting after killing Jesus
> lusting after sadistic brutality
> flash nudity, clearly non-sexual but nudity nonetheless
> *Offense to God (O)*
> flashes of grotesque demons
> images of children as demons
> calling Jesus a fool repeatedly [Matt. 5:22]
> attempts of Satan to tempt and control our Lord and events that would
> impede Him
> *Murder/Suicide (M)*
> suicide of Judas
> murder of our Lord
> Final score: 69
> So it seems it wouldn't be approved of very highly by conservatives.
> (by the way, if you haven't encountered CAP movie reviews, you're in for a
> treat)
Like I said I would require a XXX rating and allow showing only in Porn
Theatres and Porn Web Sites. ;-)
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
>> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
>> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
>> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
>> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
>> thousand discs to complete the work.
>> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
>> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
>> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
>> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
>> happy because they just did god's work.
>> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
>> words come alive.
>> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
>> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
>> child?
>> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
>> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
>> children?
>> Who would buy this work?
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
>> *Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
>> massive slavery and bondage with brutality (non-graphic)
>> individualized events of brutality, repeated
>> threat with an axe
>> dead child (Pharaoh's son) (non-graphic)
>> threat to kill many
>> drowning deaths of hundreds (somewhat graphic)
>> many deaths (few seen) as a consequence of evil doings
>> theft of food
>> death by crumbling faulty concrete work due to cheating
>> attempted suicide by firearm
>> firearm for offense
>> threat of physical harm to control a woman
>> gunfire murder (non-graphic)
>> dead body (non-graphic)
>> defensive threat to kill
>> aiding and abetting a felon
>> illegal flight to escape lawful capture
>> contemplation of suicide
>> death by storm at sea (non-graphic)
>> *Impudence/Hate (I)*
>> disregard for human life
>> teaching son arrogance and brutality and encouraging them (Pharaoh's son),
>> multiple
>> son's arrogance and impudence at mother teaching the Bible, repeatedly
>> lies, various
>> bribing to cheat
>> cheating by using substandard construction material
>> lie to protect adulterous relationship
>> one use of the three/four letter word vocabulary
>> *Sexual Immorality (S)*
>> long sequence of orgy and sexual revelry, no nudity
>> inappropriate touch
>> sexual innuendo
>> *Offense to God (O)*
>> idolatry, repeatedly
>> worshiping of false gods
>> seeking vengeance
>> denying God's Word to excuse sin, repeatedly
>> mockery of God's Grace and power
>> condemning God's Word
>> adultery
>> coveting others for selfish gain
>> *Murder/Suicide (M)*
>> one gunfire murder
>> Final score: 65
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> The Passion of the Christ:
>> *Wanton Violence/Crime (W)*
>> fighting
>> ear amputation
>> beating, repeatedly, frequent, including after recent beatings, most
>> intensely graphic and realistic
>> physical brutality, repeatedly, often and increasingly brutal
>> facial injuries from beatings/brutality
>> brutal vicious whipping with graphic injuries, ripping flesh, repeatedly
>> driving thorns into scalp
>> intensely graphic full-body gore, repeatedly, frequently
>> crowd control beatings, repeatedly
>> crowd brutalization of near-dead Jesus
>> continued beatings/whippings of our already mutilated Lord
>> kicking our near-dead Lord
>> hand/foot impalement with spikes
>> a crow pecking the eyes of the thief to Jesus' right (the one who mocked
>> Jesus as He hung on the Cross)
>> spear impalement with exudates
>> *Impudence/Hate (I)*
>> tormenting by children (who were cast as controlled by Satan)
>> mockery of our Lord, repeatedly
>> crowd lusting after killing Jesus
>> lusting after sadistic brutality
>> flash nudity, clearly non-sexual but nudity nonetheless
>> *Offense to God (O)*
>> flashes of grotesque demons
>> images of children as demons
>> calling Jesus a fool repeatedly [Matt. 5:22]
>> attempts of Satan to tempt and control our Lord and events that would
>> impede Him
>> *Murder/Suicide (M)*
>> suicide of Judas
>> murder of our Lord
>> Final score: 69
>> So it seems it wouldn't be approved of very highly by conservatives.
>> (by the way, if you haven't encountered CAP movie reviews, you're in for a
>> treat)
> Like I said I would require a XXX rating and allow showing only in Porn
> Theatres and Porn Web Sites. ;-)
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>> A thought experiment. Its a few years from now and with $20,000 in
>>> equipment, a couple of really talented people can make a couple of
>>> hours of Disney/Pixar quality animation in about a week.
>>> A religious couple decide to make an accurate version of the entire
>>> bible, one two hour disc at a time. They don't care if it takes a
>>> thousand discs to complete the work.
>>> They do not leave anything out. For example, when god says to kill
>>> every man, woman and children, they show god's warriors rip a baby
>>> from it's mothers hands, kill the baby in front of the parents and
>>> then kill the parents. Afterwards the soldiers are shown as being
>>> happy because they just did god's work.
>>> What should this work be rated? It can't be rated R because its gods
>>> words come alive.
>>> If you are religious, would you show this work to your small children?
>>> If yes, how could you show such violent and disturbing images to a
>>> child?
>>> If no, why not? The bible is the most perfect book in the world
>>> according to fundamentalists. Why hid the good book from the
>>> children?
>>> Who would buy this work?
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
> "Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
> Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
> Andromeda
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The essence of the medium contradicts this - if you intend to make a > profit.
It contradicted regardless of whether the motive for profit was considered.
> If they are willing to > make the bible on 100 or even a thousand 2 hour discs, they could make > a movie > and leave nothing out.
This is the point where I note the essence of the medium contradicts.
> My major question is, what would the reaction of theist be to making > the bible more accessable to people?
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM, scenario_dave <scenario_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The essence of the medium contradicts this - if you intend to make a
> > profit.
> It contradicted regardless of whether the motive for profit was considered.
> > If they are willing to
> > make the bible on 100 or even a thousand 2 hour discs, they could make
> > a movie
> > and leave nothing out.
> This is the point where I note the essence of the medium contradicts.
> > My major question is, what would the reaction of theist be to making
> > the bible more accessable to people?
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