Trance,
"Jeb. I know you think I have an issue with you and I really don't.
"Honestly in a forum like this I don't care enough to have an issue
with anyone. I do, however, have opinions which I express freely, as
you know. "
I accept the above without qualification, it exactly mirrors my
position.
"I have a style of expression which if you read my posts (not just
the
ones to you) is respectful until I feel insulted or I feel someone is
implying things about me personally or what I've said that are
unwarranted."
Yet sometimes it does not take much to insult you, our first exchanged
began to degrade as soon as I Implied you were taking a stance. If I
read the above correctly, you are saying that you become disrespectful
when someone intones that what you have said is unwarranted. Look
back at your courage and cowardice thread. I did just that, I felt
what you had to say was mean spirited and unwarranted. I have a
difficult time agreeing that should result in disrespect. I am sure
that I say many things that are unwarranted, when someone tells me
that, or differs in opinion, I do not take it as an insult, or
personally. What I feel, accurate or not, is that you are more than
willing to insult but feel unjustly attacked when the favor is
returned.
"I joke a lot and sometimes that can be misunderstood as me making a
statement of some sort. That's rarely the case, I'm usually just
joking."
Jokes at someone else's expense are offensive and insulting to them,
that may or may not matter to you but it is accurate. The "I am
laughing with you, not at you" is very seldom true.
"That's me and the way I work."
I understand that. You find my tome insulting and arrogant at times.
This is because I present my opinions in a manner that is meant to be
persuasive, including "we", etc in the wording and implying that what
I have to say is "the gospel". That's the way I work. Life in
general has taught me that it is effective in most non-contentious
forums. It does not serve me well here where the contention is
already built in. In this forum it appears that flattery is a more
effective way of interacting with others here. But that is not my
way, and for me to do so would untruthful.
"We are not all the same. Most people on this site have a distinct
style and way of approaching things."
Very true, we are very diverse, that is what makes life interesting.
"It's not up to you or I, in my opinion, to judge them. This site
would
be quite boring without those different styles."
We all judge one another continually. If you don't believe that, then
you need to pause and consider it. It is human nature. Judgment in
itself is neither good nor bad. Actions stemming out of that judgment
can be either.
"Dev is extremely tolerant on many things, on the things he values
and
respects."
We are all more tolerant of those things to which we value and
respect, The same could be said of a two year old. As one gains
maturity they can grow to a point of tolerance to those things they do
not understand, agree with or respect.
"He doesn't suffer fools gladly and says what's on his mind."
And he is quick to decide that anyone who doesn't agree with him is a
fool.
"When he talks about issues that concern him and that are a problem
from him, he shows his lack of respect."
That is understandable; we all tend to react poorly when we feel our
security or sense of self is threatened. But once agian it takes some
maturity to rise above that insecurity and riegn in our raw emotion.
In my opinion, the worst thing anyone can say about Dev is that he's
Honest.
That is your opinion, mine is far different. Dev may may have had
some life experience that brought him to his current "personality"
here. I have no doubt that Christians or the religious are in a large
part responsible for that "personality" growth into intense dislike of
them. But as I raised my children, I taught them that history can
explain behavior but not excuse it. I can also accept that this forum
provides a venting system for him. A place to vent and rage with
little or no consequence to his actual life in the world. That world
evidentally builds great resentment in him. Stemming from having to
pander to those he detests so as to not negatively impact his family
or status. It appears, he lives a lie on a daily basis because he is
unable to "be himself". I do not say these things in a mean hearted
way. I do have empathy for him, as that is a very difficult way to
live. it is not uncommon for those with a high intelligence to "live
in the world" in such a manner. Some handle it better than others.
"I personally respect that and don't consider that bad or a crime."
That's accurate, if being honest is the worst someone can say of
another, it is certainly not bad or a crime.
It is my hope that the above was not inflamming and was taken
objectively. It was not my intent to insult, or debase.
jeb
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