philosophy wrote:
> My feeling is that many people who become "religious", do so because
> they are actually inadequate individuals and require a way of being
> accepted by society and in fact they need to feel "special".
Treebeard (Allan C. Cybulskie) writes:
"Funny, I feel the same way about some atheists; that they accept it
more because they want to be able to claim to be more rational and to
have evolved beyond the primitive superstitions that most other people
hold, to get a feeling of intellectual superiority. This seems to be
supported by how so many of them try to claim and even try to prove
that atheists ARE smarter than theists, when all atheism itself
denotes is that you lack one single belief ..."
Hi, Christian Dev here, and I want to be the first to point out that
Allan is a genius. First of all, lacking a belief can't make you
smarter. Take a multiple choice question on a test, for example. If
there are four options, do what me and Allan do and circle them all.
Lacking a belief in three of the four options is just three times not
helping you pass the test. Unfortunately, my special ed teachers at
the prominent theological college I attend (I'm first in my class)
still mark me wrong for doing that, because they say there's no way of
knowing if I was paying attention or learning anything.
Which brings me to Allan's best point: accepting an unpopular position
just because it's more _rational_ is just so, like, _shallow_--at
least as bad as taking the popular opinion because it's popular, if
not worse. See, my frat at the theocon college has one of those randy
relationships with a sorority of a special group of ladies (you know
what I'm talking about, gentlemen), and every year (*dirty snicker*)
we accuse them of being witches and try to figure out which ones are.
Now, last time one dorky freshman (a legacy, of course), mentioned
that the tests always resulted in nothing but a bunch of dead sorority
sisters.
So I said, "Dude. This is not cool. You need to listen to Allan C.
Cybulskie (aka Treebeard) and realize that drugs, peer pressure and
reason have no place in forming your opinions about the world. Now
let's put on our bathing suits and fish out our future wives."
You should _never_ aspire towards intellectual superiority, because
that would require a superior intellect. If you spend too much time
thinking and reasoning, guess what? You're only going to swim home
alone.
> philosophy wrote:
> > My feeling is that many people who become "religious", do so because
> > they are actually inadequate individuals and require a way of being
> > accepted by society and in fact they need to feel "special".
> Treebeard (Allan C. Cybulskie) writes:
> "Funny, I feel the same way about some atheists; that they accept it
> more because they want to be able to claim to be more rational and to
> have evolved beyond the primitive superstitions that most other people
> hold, to get a feeling of intellectual superiority. This seems to be
> supported by how so many of them try to claim and even try to prove
> that atheists ARE smarter than theists, when all atheism itself
> denotes is that you lack one single belief ..."
> Hi, Christian Dev here, and I want to be the first to point out that
> Allan is a genius. First of all, lacking a belief can't make you
> smarter. Take a multiple choice question on a test, for example. If
> there are four options, do what me and Allan do and circle them all.
> Lacking a belief in three of the four options is just three times not
> helping you pass the test. Unfortunately, my special ed teachers at
> the prominent theological college I attend (I'm first in my class)
> still mark me wrong for doing that, because they say there's no way of
> knowing if I was paying attention or learning anything.
> Which brings me to Allan's best point: accepting an unpopular position
> just because it's more _rational_ is just so, like, _shallow_--at
> least as bad as taking the popular opinion because it's popular, if
> not worse. See, my frat at the theocon college has one of those randy
> relationships with a sorority of a special group of ladies (you know
> what I'm talking about, gentlemen), and every year (*dirty snicker*)
> we accuse them of being witches and try to figure out which ones are.
> Now, last time one dorky freshman (a legacy, of course), mentioned
> that the tests always resulted in nothing but a bunch of dead sorority
> sisters.
> So I said, "Dude. This is not cool. You need to listen to Allan C.
> Cybulskie (aka Treebeard) and realize that drugs, peer pressure and
> reason have no place in forming your opinions about the world. Now
> let's put on our bathing suits and fish out our future wives."
> You should _never_ aspire towards intellectual superiority, because
> that would require a superior intellect. If you spend too much time
> thinking and reasoning, guess what? You're only going to swim home
> alone.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dev <thedevil...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> philosophy wrote:
> > My feeling is that many people who become "religious", do so because
> > they are actually inadequate individuals and require a way of being
> > accepted by society and in fact they need to feel "special".
> Treebeard (Allan C. Cybulskie) writes:
> "Funny, I feel the same way about some atheists; that they accept it
> more because they want to be able to claim to be more rational and to
> have evolved beyond the primitive superstitions that most other people
> hold, to get a feeling of intellectual superiority. This seems to be
> supported by how so many of them try to claim and even try to prove
> that atheists ARE smarter than theists, when all atheism itself
> denotes is that you lack one single belief ..."
> Hi, Christian Dev here, and I want to be the first to point out that
> Allan is a genius. First of all, lacking a belief can't make you
> smarter. Take a multiple choice question on a test, for example. If
> there are four options, do what me and Allan do and circle them all.
> Lacking a belief in three of the four options is just three times not
> helping you pass the test. Unfortunately, my special ed teachers at
> the prominent theological college I attend (I'm first in my class)
> still mark me wrong for doing that, because they say there's no way of
> knowing if I was paying attention or learning anything.
> Which brings me to Allan's best point: accepting an unpopular position
> just because it's more _rational_ is just so, like, _shallow_--at
> least as bad as taking the popular opinion because it's popular, if
> not worse. See, my frat at the theocon college has one of those randy
> relationships with a sorority of a special group of ladies (you know
> what I'm talking about, gentlemen), and every year (*dirty snicker*)
> we accuse them of being witches and try to figure out which ones are.
> Now, last time one dorky freshman (a legacy, of course), mentioned
> that the tests always resulted in nothing but a bunch of dead sorority
> sisters.
> So I said, "Dude. This is not cool. You need to listen to Allan C.
> Cybulskie (aka Treebeard) and realize that drugs, peer pressure and
> reason have no place in forming your opinions about the world. Now
> let's put on our bathing suits and fish out our future wives."
> You should _never_ aspire towards intellectual superiority, because
> that would require a superior intellect. If you spend too much time
> thinking and reasoning, guess what? You're only going to swim home
> alone.
Oh well this makes perfect sense to me. I'm completely convinced.... ;-)
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my
religion." --Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865), (attributed)
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to
remain silent." --Thomas Jefferson
I would award stars for this but I'm not sure how, I've clicked on
them anyway.
Even if you were being insulting as usual it was true and funny!
Tree is intelligent, he can hold his own even when being swamped by
atheists. I disagree with the original question by Philosophy, try see
it from the perspective that we are simply human beings raised in a
spiritual environment, that environment has long ago developed a
cultural way of celebrating spiritual events that everyone observes
the same way and most people are born into this same-expression
culture. If it was all literally about 'Jesus does this, Jesus does
that' then it would seem weird and lets face it, it doesn't seem weird
at all so we know it's just cultural bonding.
On 23 Mar, 22:16, Dev <thedevil...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> philosophy wrote:
> > My feeling is that many people who become "religious", do so because
> > they are actually inadequate individuals and require a way of being
> > accepted by society and in fact they need to feel "special".
> Treebeard (Allan C. Cybulskie) writes:
> "Funny, I feel the same way about some atheists; that they accept it
> more because they want to be able to claim to be more rational and to
> have evolved beyond the primitive superstitions that most other people
> hold, to get a feeling of intellectual superiority. This seems to be
> supported by how so many of them try to claim and even try to prove
> that atheists ARE smarter than theists, when all atheism itself
> denotes is that you lack one single belief ..."
> Hi, Christian Dev here, and I want to be the first to point out that
> Allan is a genius. First of all, lacking a belief can't make you
> smarter. Take a multiple choice question on a test, for example. If
> there are four options, do what me and Allan do and circle them all.
> Lacking a belief in three of the four options is just three times not
> helping you pass the test. Unfortunately, my special ed teachers at
> the prominent theological college I attend (I'm first in my class)
> still mark me wrong for doing that, because they say there's no way of
> knowing if I was paying attention or learning anything.
> Which brings me to Allan's best point: accepting an unpopular position
> just because it's more _rational_ is just so, like, _shallow_--at
> least as bad as taking the popular opinion because it's popular, if
> not worse. See, my frat at the theocon college has one of those randy
> relationships with a sorority of a special group of ladies (you know
> what I'm talking about, gentlemen), and every year (*dirty snicker*)
> we accuse them of being witches and try to figure out which ones are.
> Now, last time one dorky freshman (a legacy, of course), mentioned
> that the tests always resulted in nothing but a bunch of dead sorority
> sisters.
> So I said, "Dude. This is not cool. You need to listen to Allan C.
> Cybulskie (aka Treebeard) and realize that drugs, peer pressure and
> reason have no place in forming your opinions about the world. Now
> let's put on our bathing suits and fish out our future wives."
> You should _never_ aspire towards intellectual superiority, because
> that would require a superior intellect. If you spend too much time
> thinking and reasoning, guess what? You're only going to swim home
> alone.
> I would award stars for this but I'm not sure how, I've clicked on
> them anyway.
> Even if you were being insulting as usual it was true and funny!
> Tree is intelligent, he can hold his own even when being swamped by
> atheists. I disagree with the original question by Philosophy, try see
> it from the perspective that we are simply human beings raised in a
> spiritual environment, that environment has long ago developed a
> cultural way of celebrating spiritual events that everyone observes
> the same way and most people are born into this same-expression
> culture. If it was all literally about 'Jesus does this, Jesus does
> that' then it would seem weird and lets face it, it doesn't seem weird
> at all so we know it's just cultural bonding.
> On 23 Mar, 22:16, Dev <thedevil...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > philosophy wrote:
> > > My feeling is that many people who become "religious", do so because
> > > they are actually inadequate individuals and require a way of being
> > > accepted by society and in fact they need to feel "special".
> > Treebeard (Allan C. Cybulskie) writes:
> > "Funny, I feel the same way about some atheists; that they accept it
> > more because they want to be able to claim to be more rational and to
> > have evolved beyond the primitive superstitions that most other people
> > hold, to get a feeling of intellectual superiority. This seems to be
> > supported by how so many of them try to claim and even try to prove
> > that atheists ARE smarter than theists, when all atheism itself
> > denotes is that you lack one single belief ..."
> > Hi, Christian Dev here, and I want to be the first to point out that
> > Allan is a genius. First of all, lacking a belief can't make you
> > smarter. Take a multiple choice question on a test, for example. If
> > there are four options, do what me and Allan do and circle them all.
> > Lacking a belief in three of the four options is just three times not
> > helping you pass the test. Unfortunately, my special ed teachers at
> > the prominent theological college I attend (I'm first in my class)
> > still mark me wrong for doing that, because they say there's no way of
> > knowing if I was paying attention or learning anything.
> > Which brings me to Allan's best point: accepting an unpopular position
> > just because it's more _rational_ is just so, like, _shallow_--at
> > least as bad as taking the popular opinion because it's popular, if
> > not worse. See, my frat at the theocon college has one of those randy
> > relationships with a sorority of a special group of ladies (you know
> > what I'm talking about, gentlemen), and every year (*dirty snicker*)
> > we accuse them of being witches and try to figure out which ones are.
> > Now, last time one dorky freshman (a legacy, of course), mentioned
> > that the tests always resulted in nothing but a bunch of dead sorority
> > sisters.
> > So I said, "Dude. This is not cool. You need to listen to Allan C.
> > Cybulskie (aka Treebeard) and realize that drugs, peer pressure and
> > reason have no place in forming your opinions about the world. Now
> > let's put on our bathing suits and fish out our future wives."
> > You should _never_ aspire towards intellectual superiority, because
> > that would require a superior intellect. If you spend too much time
> > thinking and reasoning, guess what? You're only going to swim home
> > alone.- Hide quoted text -
