Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the troops into Iraq?
Exactly what is the difference between the two?
In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car By ROBERT CROWE San Antonio Express-News Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take the other car off the road, police said.
The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
"He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County Sheriff's Office.
The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor injuries.
"God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver, nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving was unsatisfactory.
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US Supreme Court Justice
I doubt they want to touch this one with a ten-foot-pole, Trance, so
I'll point out the obvious: the exemptions for religious faith as
mental illness are not logically consistent, so the standards are
enforced or relaxed entirely based on whether or not it is beneficial
for the specific theist in question--if calling your beliefs "mental
illness" hurts your career, you don't get called crazy, if it helps
you get away with murder, you do, even if the beliefs are equally
detached from reality. This is simply because we are living with a
theistic majority and not enough people are willing to point out the
contradictions of observing the obvious: that anyone who believes in
God is mentally ill and should be treated as such.
On Nov 30, 9:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> By ROBERT CROWE
> San Antonio Express-News
> Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> the other car off the road, police said.
> The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> Sheriff's Office.
> The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> injuries.
> "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> was unsatisfactory.
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> By ROBERT CROWE
> San Antonio Express-News
> Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> the other car off the road, police said.
He intentionally hit the other car, it was no accident. The other
driver could have died.
This driver should have been charged with assault with a deadly
weapon, or something like that.
What a load of bullshit.
__________________________________________
Whenever morality is based on theology, whenever right is made
dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous
things can be justified and established.
-- Ludwig Feuerbach
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out
> there committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> By ROBERT CROWE
> San Antonio Express-News
> Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> the other car off the road, police said.
> The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> Sheriff's Office.
> The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> injuries.
> "God must have been with them,
I laughed at this. And then started crying out of despair.
> 'cause any other time, the severity of
> this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> was unsatisfactory.
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice
> Trance, so
> I'll point out the obvious: the exemptions for religious faith as
> mental illness are not logically consistent, so the standards are
> enforced or relaxed entirely based on whether or not it is beneficial
> for the specific theist in question--if calling your beliefs "mental
> illness" hurts your career, you don't get called crazy, if it helps
> you get away with murder, you do, even if the beliefs are equally
> detached from reality. This is simply because we are living with a
> theistic majority and not enough people are willing to point out the
> contradictions of observing the obvious: that anyone who believes in
> God is mentally ill and should be treated as such.
> On Nov 30, 9:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> > Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> > In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> > committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> > credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> > Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> > By ROBERT CROWE
> > San Antonio Express-News
> > Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> > The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> > South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> > because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> > the other car off the road, police said.
> > The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> > the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> > "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> > taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> > Sheriff's Office.
> > The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> > her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> > excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> > vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> > barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> > Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> > injuries.
> > "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> > this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> > The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> > driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> > Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> > nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> > was unsatisfactory.
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> > Supreme Court Justice- Hide quoted text -
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Dev <thedevil...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> I doubt they want to touch this one with a ten-foot-pole, Trance, so
> I'll point out the obvious: the exemptions for religious faith as
> mental illness are not logically consistent, so the standards are
> enforced or relaxed entirely based on whether or not it is beneficial
> for the specific theist in question--if calling your beliefs "mental
> illness" hurts your career, you don't get called crazy, if it helps
> you get away with murder, you do, even if the beliefs are equally
> detached from reality. This is simply because we are living with a
> theistic majority and not enough people are willing to point out the
> contradictions of observing the obvious: that anyone who believes in
> God is mentally ill and should be treated as such.
Looks like you're right. No-one's taking up the challenge.
> On Nov 30, 9:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> > Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> > In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out
> there
> > committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> > credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> > Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> > By ROBERT CROWE
> > San Antonio Express-News
> > Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> > The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> > South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> > because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> > the other car off the road, police said.
> > The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> > the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> > "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> > taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> > Sheriff's Office.
> > The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> > her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> > excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> > vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> > barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> > Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> > injuries.
> > "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> > this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> > The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> > driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> > Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> > nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> > was unsatisfactory.
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
"Labeling Atheists
Some Christians have labeled atheists as stupid, devil-worshippers, or
morally void. Though there may be some atheists who fit these
categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not
categorically stupid, devil-worshipping, degenerates with no morals.
Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient.
For a Christian, or anyone for that matter, to make a blanket
statement about atheists in a derogatory manner is wrong. It is the
same thing atheists sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being
irrational, psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on
either side of the argument of truth.
Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought
through their position over a long period of time and arrive at
conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in religious homes,
have seen what religion has to offer, and have rejected it. Of course,
I think that atheists have drawn incorrect conclusions about God, but
it doesn't mean they are dumb. Some atheists have presented very
cogent arguments against the existence of God, which need to be
addressed.
So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who
doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid. Labeling and
name-calling have no place in the discussion.
Ignoring Atheists' Questions
If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your
way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive will not make it go
away. If an atheist asks a question and you ignore it repeatedly, it
would be fair for him to conclude you were incapable of answering the
objection. Of course, this does not mean you have to always answer
everything because dialogue flows both ways. But, it is important
that you face issues. If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's
okay. It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an
answer. Go study and get an answer and get back to him.
Stating that Atheism is a religion
Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A
religion almost always is defined to include belief in a deity of some
sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't necessarily a "belief
that there is no God," (though it can be)but is "not believing either
way."
To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to
effective communication. It would be like someone saying to a
Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who likes to
torture people." The Christian would simply roll his eyes and think
that the person doesn't know what he's talking about. So, how much
effective conversation could there be in either instance? Not much.
Stating unsupportable facts
No one has all documentation for everything they say. It is not
reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything said.
Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is good to
have the documentation at the tip of your tongue -- at least
occasionally, of have access to it. It adds to your credibility. Of
course, you don't have to document everything, but if you have some
illustrious fact to use, try and have it documented.
Never admitting when you are wrong
Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages.
It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no place in the
Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being prideful.
If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong is something, be kind and
courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go on. Everyone makes
mistakes, even atheists. There is nothing wrong with admitting an
error. It no more proves you are wrong about Christianity than being
wrong about the color of a boat means boats don't exist. But, if you
never admit when you are wrong, you will not be able to convince
anyone in a discussion of your position. You will simply lose the
respect of the one with whom you are debating."
Fucktard (I'm looking for a better nickname--Bat/Horseshit already being
taken and all) gives replies like this, and then wonders why atheists are
frustrated and angry. I wonder if his lack of basic reasoning is congenital
or the result of some major trauma?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Brock <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for
> more specifics.
> > and why Bush was not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the
> case for more specifics.
I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock. Not the attorneys and not
the WCF :-) (which, by the way, is the human interpretation of an ancient
superstition followed by a small cult 2000 years ago.)
> Regards,
> Brock
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
Let's take the hypothetical court case, and the summary of the
prosecution if the defense tried to use your claim:
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the defense has claimed that there
is no difference between what this man said before hitting the woman's
car and what President Bush said before invading Iraq. First, it
seems from the testimony that this man was absolutely sincere and
genuine in expressing that; President Bush, being a politician, was
more likely to be speaking figuratively or even insincerely.
Secondly, though, and more importantly, the defense would have you
believe that God takes a direct interest in the driving habits of
another woman, and so much interest that He would have had this man
attempt to run her off the road, endangering not only her life, not
only the life of this man, but the lives of other innocent drivers on
the road ... all over a minor traffic violation. This is clearly not
comparable with the heinous crimes that Saddam Hussein had committed
against his own people, especially the Kurds. Finally, it is quite
likely that this woman was a Christian or religious herself; why
wouldn't God have simply told her to stop driving so poorly?
"Basically, this man seems to be serious about his statement that God
told him to do this, but it is inconsistent with what we -- and he --
believe about God that he would have done so. These two facts make
the comparison to President Bush most specious."
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
Please express the "so many people committing crimes in the name of
your god" as a percentage of total believers in God, and then we'll
talk.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
>> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist >> > for >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
>> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for >> more specifics.
>> > and why Bush was not >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the >> > troops into Iraq?
>> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the >> case for more specifics.
> I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question, and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different. If one truly was interested in the specific nature of the differences, my answer represents outstanding advice. If one simply wanted affirmation for a pejorative pre-conception, then perhaps the answer did not so accommodate.
> Not the attorneys and not > the WCF :-) (which, by the way, is the human interpretation of an ancient > superstition followed by a small cult 2000 years ago.)
I simply note:
6) The Westminster Confession of Faith contains useful summary references to many of the propositional truths of the Bible
"Labeling Atheists
Some Christians have labeled atheists as stupid, devil-worshippers, or
morally void. Though there may be some atheists who
fit these categories (as would many in the general population),
atheists are not categorically stupid, devil-worshipping,
degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest,
caring, loving, and patient. For a Christian, or anyone
for that matter, to make a blanket statement about atheists in a
derogatory manner is wrong. It is the same thing atheists
sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being irrational,
psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on either
side of the argument of truth.
Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought
through their position over a long period of time and
arrive at conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in
religious homes, have seen what religion has to offer, and
have rejected it. Of course, I think that atheists have drawn
incorrect conclusions about God, but it doesn't mean they are
dumb. Some atheists have presented very cogent arguments against the
existence of God, which need to be addressed.
So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who
doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid.
Labeling and name-calling have no place in the discussion.
Ignoring Atheists' Questions
If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your
way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive
will not make it go away. If an atheist asks a question and you
ignore it repeatedly, it would be fair for him to conclude
you were incapable of answering the objection. Of course, this does
not mean you have to always answer everything because
dialogue flows both ways. But, it is important that you face issues.
If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's okay.
It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an answer. Go
study and get an answer and get back to him.
Stating that Atheism is a religion
Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A
religion almost always is defined to include belief in
a deity of some sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't
necessarily a "belief that there is no God," (though it can
be)but is "not believing either way."
To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to
effective communication. It would be like someone
saying to a Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who
likes to torture people." The Christian would simply
roll his eyes and think that the person doesn't know what he's talking
about. So, how much effective conversation could
there be in either instance? Not much.
Stating unsupportable facts
No one has all documentation for everything they say. It is not
reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything
said. Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is
good to have the documentation at the tip of your tongue
-- at least occasionally, of have access to it. It adds to your
credibility. Of course, you don't have to document
everything, but if you have some illustrious fact to use, try and have
it documented.
Never admitting when you are wrong
Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages.
It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no
place in the Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being
prideful. If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong
is something, be kind and courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go
on. Everyone makes mistakes, even atheists. There is
nothing wrong with admitting an error. It no more proves you are
wrong about Christianity than being wrong about the color
of a boat means boats don't exist. But, if you never admit when you
are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone in a
discussion of your position. You will simply lose the respect of the
one with whom you are debating."
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> >> > for
> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for
> >> more specifics.
> >> > and why Bush was not
> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> >> > troops into Iraq?
> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the
> >> case for more specifics.
> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question,
> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different. If one
> truly was interested in the specific nature of the differences, my
> answer represents outstanding advice. If one simply wanted
> affirmation for a pejorative pre-conception, then perhaps the answer
> did not so accommodate.
> > Not the attorneys and not
> > the WCF :-) (which, by the way, is the human interpretation of an ancient
> > superstition followed by a small cult 2000 years ago.)
> I simply note:
> 6) The Westminster Confession of Faith contains useful summary
> references to many of the propositional truths of the Bible
On Dec 2, 11:33 am, "Brock Organ" <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 6) The Westminster Confession of Faith contains useful summary
> references to many of the propositional truths of the Bible
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crossed the Rubicon Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla BlaBla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla
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Bla Bla Bla Only Jesus can save you from yourself Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla
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Yes Brock, we know, we have heard it all before.
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I am fond of saying that reading the Bible turned me into an atheist.
-- Ruth Hurmence Green
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a
> psychiatrist
> >> > for
> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for
> >> more specifics.
> >> > and why Bush was not
> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> >> > troops into Iraq?
> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the
> >> case for more specifics.
> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question,
> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different.
> If one
> truly was interested in the specific nature of the differences, my
> answer represents outstanding advice. If one simply wanted
> affirmation for a pejorative pre-conception, then perhaps the answer
> did not so accommodate.
> > Not the attorneys and not
> > the WCF :-) (which, by the way, is the human interpretation of an ancient
> > superstition followed by a small cult 2000 years ago.)
> I simply note:
> 6) The Westminster Confession of Faith contains useful summary
> references to many of the propositional truths of the Bible
> Regards,
> Brock
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
>> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a >> >> > psychiatrist >> >> > for >> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
>> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for >> >> more specifics.
>> >> > and why Bush was not >> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send >> >> > the >> >> > troops into Iraq?
>> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the >> >> case for more specifics.
>> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
>> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question, >> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different.
> And how are the legal contexts different?
As I indicated above, specific legal questions are often best answered by a lawyer.
"Labeling Atheists
Some Christians have labeled atheists as stupid, devil-worshippers, or
morally void. Though there may be some atheists who
fit these categories (as would many in the general population),
atheists are not categorically stupid, devil-worshipping,
degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest,
caring, loving, and patient. For a Christian, or anyone
for that matter, to make a blanket statement about atheists in a
derogatory manner is wrong. It is the same thing atheists
sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being irrational,
psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on either
side of the argument of truth.
Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought
through their position over a long period of time and
arrive at conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in
religious homes, have seen what religion has to offer, and
have rejected it. Of course, I think that atheists have drawn
incorrect conclusions about God, but it doesn't mean they are
dumb. Some atheists have presented very cogent arguments against the
existence of God, which need to be addressed.
So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who
doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid.
Labeling and name-calling have no place in the discussion.
Ignoring Atheists' Questions
If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your
way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive
will not make it go away. If an atheist asks a question and you
ignore it repeatedly, it would be fair for him to conclude
you were incapable of answering the objection. Of course, this does
not mean you have to always answer everything because
dialogue flows both ways. But, it is important that you face issues.
If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's okay.
It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an answer. Go
study and get an answer and get back to him.
Stating that Atheism is a religion
Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A
religion almost always is defined to include belief in
a deity of some sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't
necessarily a "belief that there is no God," (though it can
be)but is "not believing either way."
To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to
effective communication. It would be like someone
saying to a Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who
likes to torture people." The Christian would simply
roll his eyes and think that the person doesn't know what he's talking
about. So, how much effective conversation could
there be in either instance? Not much.
Stating unsupportable facts
No one has all documentation for everything they say. It is not
reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything
said. Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is
good to have the documentation at the tip of your tongue
-- at least occasionally, of have access to it. It adds to your
credibility. Of course, you don't have to document
everything, but if you have some illustrious fact to use, try and have
it documented.
Never admitting when you are wrong
Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the fall. It ruins marriages.
It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no
place in the Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being
prideful. If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong
is something, be kind and courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go
on. Everyone makes mistakes, even atheists. There is
nothing wrong with admitting an error. It no more proves you are
wrong about Christianity than being wrong about the color
of a boat means boats don't exist. But, if you never admit when you
are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone in a
discussion of your position. You will simply lose the respect of the
one with whom you are debating."
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> >> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a
> >> >> > psychiatrist
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
> >> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for
> >> >> more specifics.
> >> >> > and why Bush was not
> >> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > troops into Iraq?
> >> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the
> >> >> case for more specifics.
> >> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
> >> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question,
> >> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different.
> > And how are the legal contexts different?
> As I indicated above, specific legal questions are often best answered
> by a lawyer.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> >> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a
> >> >> > psychiatrist
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
> >> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for
> >> >> more specifics.
> >> >> > and why Bush was not
> >> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > troops into Iraq?
> >> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the
> >> >> case for more specifics.
> >> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
> >> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question,
> >> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different.
> > And how are the legal contexts different?
> As I indicated above, specific legal questions are often best answered
> by a lawyer.
Non-answer noted.
> Regards,
> Brock
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> >> > wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
>> >> >> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a >> >> >> > psychiatrist >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car
>> >> >> Check with the local district attorney who supervised the case for >> >> >> more specifics.
>> >> >> > and why Bush was not >> >> >> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > troops into Iraq?
>> >> >> Check with your local constitutional attorney who has supervised the >> >> >> case for more specifics.
>> >> > I would prefer your thoughts on the matter Brock.
>> >> Those are my thoughts on the matter. You asked the naive question, >> >> and I answered by noting the legal contexts are different.
>> > And how are the legal contexts different?
>> As I indicated above, specific legal questions are often best answered >> by a lawyer.
> Non-answer noted.
Rather, if you are interested in debating a position about the nature of the differences in the legal contexts, you are welcome to do so. Though I may frequently be happy to share opinions on specifics, more often than not I prefer reading a fine legal commentary to providing one.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
Lunacy is contagious, just like the Nazi stormtroopers and
brownshirts, until they are defeated they will never wake up.
thomas
On Nov 30, 8:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> By ROBERT CROWE
> San Antonio Express-News
> Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> the other car off the road, police said.
> The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> Sheriff's Office.
> The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> injuries.
> "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> was unsatisfactory.
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:59 PM, thomas <tdier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trance,
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> Lunacy is contagious, just like the Nazi stormtroopers and
> brownshirts, until they are defeated they will never wake up.
Uh oh, Brock's got competition for the Non-Answer of the Week Award.
> On Nov 30, 8:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> > Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> > In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out
> there
> > committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> > credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> > Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> > By ROBERT CROWE
> > San Antonio Express-News
> > Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> > The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> > South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> > because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> > the other car off the road, police said.
> > The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> > the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> > "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> > taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> > Sheriff's Office.
> > The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> > her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> > excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> > vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> > barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> > Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> > injuries.
> > "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> > this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> > The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> > driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> > Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> > nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> > was unsatisfactory.
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:59 PM, thomas <tdier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trance,
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> Lunacy is contagious, just like the Nazi stormtroopers and
> brownshirts, until they are defeated they will never wake up.
While that's true, that doesn't really answer my question.
> On Nov 30, 8:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> > Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> > In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out
> there
> > committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> > credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> > Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> > By ROBERT CROWE
> > San Antonio Express-News
> > Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> > The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> > South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> > because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> > the other car off the road, police said.
> > The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> > the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> > "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> > taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> > Sheriff's Office.
> > The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> > her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> > excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> > vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> > barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> > Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> > injuries.
> > "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> > this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> > The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> > driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> > Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> > nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> > was unsatisfactory.
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
Your thread title is misleading. You aren't talking about "Theism and
special privilege," since obviously Bush and the irate driver are both
theists. Bush gets special privilege because he's "The Decider," not
because he's a theist.
On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out there
> committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> By ROBERT CROWE
> San Antonio Express-News
> Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> the other car off the road, police said.
> The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> Sheriff's Office.
> The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> injuries.
> "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> was unsatisfactory.
> --
> Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech and
> assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of speech
> to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis, US
> Supreme Court Justice
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Joe <thelemiccatho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your thread title is misleading. You aren't talking about "Theism and
> special privilege," since obviously Bush and the irate driver are both
> theists. Bush gets special privilege because he's "The Decider," not
> because he's a theist.
Ah. So it's okay for "The Decider" to be crazy as a loon but no the driver?
> On Nov 30, 11:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> > Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist
> for
> > claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was
> not
> > sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> > troops into Iraq?
> > Exactly what is the difference between the two?
> > In addition, please explain why there appears to be so many people out
> there
> > committing crimes in the name of your god which lends a great deal of
> > credence to the question, Which God Do You Kill For?
> > Texas man says God told him to hit woman's car
> > By ROBERT CROWE
> > San Antonio Express-News
> > Nov. 29, 2008, 12:15AM
> > The driver of a pickup that struck a woman's car on San Antonio's
> > South Side on Friday morning is being evaluated by psychiatrists
> > because he thinks God told him to drive in excess of 100 mph to take
> > the other car off the road, police said.
> > The bizarre incident that shut down southbound U.S. Highway 281 above
> > the Medina River happened about 7:25 a.m.
> > "He just said God said she wasn't driving right, and she needed to be
> > taken off the road," said Lt. Kyle Coleman of the Bexar County
> > Sheriff's Office.
> > The woman was driving her sedan northbound when the pickup rear-ended
> > her vehicle. The pickup's driver told deputies that was driving in
> > excess of 100 mph at the time, Coleman said. The impact caused both
> > vehicles to spin across a median before they came to a stop along a
> > barrier in the southbound lanes. No other vehicles were involved.
> > Though both vehicles were badly damaged, the drivers suffered minor
> > injuries.
> > "God must have been with them, 'cause any other time, the severity of
> > this crash, it would have been a fatal," Coleman said.
> > The woman was taken to a hospital as a precaution, while the pickup
> > driver was taken for psychiatric evaluation.
> > Police did not find evidence of alcohol or drug use by either driver,
> > nor did the pickup driver specify for police how the woman's driving
> > was unsatisfactory.
> > --
> > Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
> > "Fear of serious injury cannot alone justify suppression of free speech
> and
> > assembly. Men feared witches and burned women. It is the function of
> speech
> > to free men from the bondage of irrational fears." --Louis D. Brandeis,
> US
> > Supreme Court Justice
-- Witchy Woman, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade. AA Wolf Pack Member #7
"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
On Dec 1, 3:59 am, "Trance Gemini" <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theists. A question. Please read the following article.
> Now, please explain to me why this Texas man was sent to a psychiatrist for
> claiming that your god told him to hit this woman's car and why Bush was not
> sent to a psychiatrist for claiming that your god told him to send the
> troops into Iraq?
> Exactly what is the difference between the two?
No difference. God's fessed up, Trance. He really did tell that guy to
hit the woman's car.
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