reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
land of Established Religion.
so to the athiest :-
Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
your favourate teddy.
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
> so to the athiest :-
> Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> your favourate teddy.
I'll tell you after more people respond to this excellent thread.
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"Change is the only constant in the universe. Fear its' constant companion.
Overcoming fear is the key to unlocking its' gifts." --Trance Gemini,
Andromeda
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
> so to the athiest :-
> Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> your favourate teddy.
chx
it was not a teddy, it was a raggy monkey and they tore it. thats ok,
i got my revenge, i put my dog on them and i got a beating from my
oldman for that. it was his drinking and pot smoking buddies kids down
the road. even so, 2 buggers got stitches hahaha. ok i was atheist too
so who cared, what the fu^%!
you did not ask what the theists did? with my being smart had no
impact - wrong name at the time. they gave me a job as a stoker on the
steam locomotive. tough dirty job, no one liked it. i worked them
steamers for a year and saved the money and went for futher education.
but i must add, 2 sides to a goin. it was christians that 'sponsored'
me. the Christian specialist did everything for free whenever i was in
for operations as a kid. the jewish doctors wanted money up front.
> On Dec 2, 1:17 pm, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > so to the athiest :-
> > Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
I have been assaulted, had my car vandalized (more than once), and
been verbally accosted more times than I can remember.
Out of all of those I'd have to say the vandalization of my car was
the worse. The assault wasn't really much. I was told by some high and
mighty theist that... "the only good atheist is a dead one." To which
I replied, "fuck off". Then he punched me. Luckily for me, he hit like
a school girl, unfortunately for him, I don't.
My car on the other hand used to sport a Darwin fish on the back. I
had my paint scratched up, a window busted and my Darwin fish
destroyed. that was the first time. The second time I had my car spray
painted with religious themed graffiti. Insurance only covered the
window. The cops told me there was nothing they could do and told me
it was basically my own fault for having an offensive decal on my car.
The Darwin fish is gone, but I replaced it with a rocket fish that
says science in it. So far, no problems yet with that one.
i have been thinking of a darwin fish for some time but i drive the
a406 in london every morning and evening. As this is the most
congested and mental road in the capital i purposely limit any signage
that will give others any reason to cut me up or be arseholes, i dont
even have a welsh flag or bumper sticker.
are you from a small town or are your experiences typical?
On 2 Dec, 13:30, dali_70 <w_e_coyot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 1:17 pm, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > so to the athiest :-
> > > Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> I have been assaulted, had my car vandalized (more than once), and
> been verbally accosted more times than I can remember.
> Out of all of those I'd have to say the vandalization of my car was
> the worse. The assault wasn't really much. I was told by some high and
> mighty theist that... "the only good atheist is a dead one." To which
> I replied, "fuck off". Then he punched me. Luckily for me, he hit like
> a school girl, unfortunately for him, I don't.
> My car on the other hand used to sport a Darwin fish on the back. I
> had my paint scratched up, a window busted and my Darwin fish
> destroyed. that was the first time. The second time I had my car spray
> painted with religious themed graffiti. Insurance only covered the
> window. The cops told me there was nothing they could do and told me
> it was basically my own fault for having an offensive decal on my car.
> The Darwin fish is gone, but I replaced it with a rocket fish that
> says science in it. So far, no problems yet with that one.
I have been forcefully removed on two seperate occasions for
interupting talks by religiously sponsored meetings that purport
to know that a superhuman being created the universe, by
insisting they answer awkward questions,( well awkward for them).
I was accused of disruptive behaviour likely to cause a fracass.
On Dec 2, 11:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
> so to the athiest :-
> Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> your favourate teddy.
yeah but your uk based and i think if i walked into a strip club and
started shouting "whores" id expect the same reaction.(not that i
would, not in a nasty way anyway...more as a friendly request)
you've gotta admit tho' , we out atheists in the uk have it relatively
very easy compaired with what we are hearing from USA.
On 2 Dec, 15:46, Lawrey <lawrenc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I have been forcefully removed on two seperate occasions for
> interupting talks by religiously sponsored meetings that purport
> to know that a superhuman being created the universe, by
> insisting they answer awkward questions,( well awkward for them).
> I was accused of disruptive behaviour likely to cause a fracass.
> On Dec 2, 11:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> > please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> > the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> > Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> > is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> > happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> > their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> > what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> > land of Established Religion.
> > so to the athiest :-
> > Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> > ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> > your favourate teddy.- Hide quoted text -
On Dec 2, 3:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
I'm Canadian, I've received no real grief telling people I'm an
atheist. I think being an atheist is mostly a social stigma in the US.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
> so to the athiest :-
> Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> your favourate teddy.
Dk, Im from a small city in NY. My experiences aren't really typical
and those events happened well over a decade long period. The fight
was way back in the early 90's and it's the only time I've actually
had someone take a swing at me for being an atheist. I don't take any
shit from anyone, and Although I have been threatened with violence
on a few other occasions, they just didn't have the balls to back it
up. The car incidents happened a few years ago and were almost a year
apart. I was living about a block down the street from the local
catholic school. The neighborhood used to be predominetly Irish and a
few Italian catholics back in the day. Nowadays there's more student &
low income housing in the neighborhood, so the LDS Morons and the
Jahovah's Idiots have been knocking on doors at least once a week for
as long as I can remember. I actually attended that catholic school
for a few years as a kid. That experience helped move me from an
agnostic/deist position closer to an agnostic/atheist. I took several
more years and few Carl Sagan books before I truly became an atheist.
On Dec 2, 8:30 am, dali_70 <w_e_coyot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have been assaulted, had my car vandalized (more than once), and
> been verbally accosted more times than I can remember.
> Out of all of those I'd have to say the vandalization of my car was
> the worse. The assault wasn't really much. I was told by some high and
> mighty theist that... "the only good atheist is a dead one." To which
> I replied, "fuck off". Then he punched me. Luckily for me, he hit like
> a school girl, unfortunately for him, I don't.
> My car on the other hand used to sport a Darwin fish on the back. I
> had my paint scratched up, a window busted and my Darwin fish
> destroyed. that was the first time. The second time I had my car spray
> painted with religious themed graffiti. Insurance only covered the
> window. The cops told me there was nothing they could do and told me
> it was basically my own fault for having an offensive decal on my car.
So much for freedom of speech...
> The Darwin fish is gone, but I replaced it with a rocket fish that
> says science in it. So far, no problems yet with that one.
_________________________________
I am fond of saying that reading the Bible turned me into an atheist.
-- Ruth Hurmence Green
> i have been thinking of a darwin fish for some time but i drive the
> a406 in london every morning and evening. As this is the most
> congested and mental road in the capital i purposely limit any signage
> that will give others any reason to cut me up or be arseholes, i dont
> even have a welsh flag or bumper sticker.
I used to live in a fancy suburb of a large, American city, then I
lived sans car in that city, now I live in a rural area. In none of
those places would I risk the safety of myself or my car with a bumper
sticker that some jerk would find objectionable.
I didn't even put a political bumper sticker on during our recent
Presidential election. People get nuts over this stuff.
Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate my freedom to say
what I have a mind to say over here in the UK and I have even been
invited to express my views to christian groups, so I am not
complaining and yes DK I guess you are right, in that sense I don't
think I would go down well in the USA. I would probably be as dead
as the Dodo by now, since I find it difficult to keep a still tongue
when I comes to religion.
On Dec 2, 4:05 pm, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> yeah but your uk based and i think if i walked into a strip club and
> started shouting "whores" id expect the same reaction.(not that i
> would, not in a nasty way anyway...more as a friendly request)
> you've gotta admit tho' , we out atheists in the uk have it relatively
> very easy compaired with what we are hearing from USA.
> On 2 Dec, 15:46, Lawrey <lawrenc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > dead kennedy,
> > I have been forcefully removed on two seperate occasions for
> > interupting talks by religiously sponsored meetings that purport
> > to know that a superhuman being created the universe, by
> > insisting they answer awkward questions,( well awkward for them).
> > I was accused of disruptive behaviour likely to cause a fracass.
> > On Dec 2, 11:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> > > please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> > > the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> > > Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> > > is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> > > happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> > > their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> > > what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> > > land of Established Religion.
> > > so to the athiest :-
> > > Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> > > ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> > > your favourate teddy.- Hide quoted text -
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
> so to the athiest :-
> Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> your favourate teddy.
I live in the eastern United States. I have had no problems from other
(theist) people the rare times that my athiest stance has come up.
Generally, someone tells me "I'll pray for you ..." or something along
those lines. Reading some of the other responses, I guess I have been
fortunate!
On Dec 2, 3:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> land of Established Religion.
What if you were to say you are an atheist in the Muslim part of town?
> On Dec 2, 3:17 am, dead kennedy <dead.kenne...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > reading through the responses to observers "A Gentle inquisition
> > please tell us why ?" i noticed that the north american posters seem
> > the most reluctant to openly state that they are atheists.
> > Ive been openly atheist in the uk for years and the worst its got me
> > is dealing with barroom drunks demanding i explain "how ALL THIS
> > happened then?". The tactic ive developed is to say i will answer
> > their questions if they answer mine. I often have to explain exactly
> > what Deism or Pantheism is after one of these exchanges. And this in a
> > land of Established Religion.
> What if you were to say you are an atheist in the Muslim part of town?
> > so to the athiest :-
> > Whats the worst thats happened to you at the hands of theists?
> > ok chx, you can join in with all the stuff nasty atheists have done to
> > your favourate teddy.
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