HTC 1.5 update breaks external audio?

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Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 2:18:05 PM4/28/09
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I just successfully updated to Android 1.5 from the HTC site.

I cannot tell if this is a coincidental hardware failure, or if the
update broke it, but...

Using the HTC headphone adapter, the audio out would switch from
internal speaker to external 3.5mm jack whenever the 3.5mm plug was
plugged in. After 1.5, this stopped working. I plug in the 3.5mm
stereo plug, and the audio stays with the internal speaker.

Anyone else see this problem?

Does anyone have external audio working with 1.5? If so, maybe
something else failed, like the "switch" pin in the adapter.

Thanks!

-Clint

Jean-Baptiste Queru

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Apr 28, 2009, 3:43:33 PM4/28/09
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We're investigating some reports of hardware-related features not
working, especially media features.

Can you check (in settings -> about phone) which version of the
baseband your phone is using? The correct version for ADP1 is
62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I

Thanks,
JBQ
--
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Android Engineer, Google.

Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
warning.

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 4:02:32 PM4/28/09
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Jean-Baptiste, my baseband version matches (62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I)

I'm more than happy to help debug if you need any assistance.

I also verified that neither the 2.5mm jack or 3.5mm jacks on the
adapter correctly switch audio to the headphones when they're plugged
in. The problem also exhibits itself when attempting to use an earbud
headphone with the phone application.

Thanks!
-Clint

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 4:04:48 PM4/28/09
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Also, I'm still curious as to whether *anyone* out there has working
headphones with 1.5.

Anyone?

On Apr 28, 12:43 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote:

Jean-Baptiste Queru

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Apr 28, 2009, 4:12:38 PM4/28/09
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Hmmmm, ok, that sounds wrong.

Very unfortunately I don't have time to try to reproduce this issue
myself right now. Could you be kind enough to head to
http://b.android.com/ and file a bug report for this?

Thanks,
JBQ

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 4:48:36 PM4/28/09
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I have submitted an issue:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2534

BTW, before submitting the issue, I did a factory-reset just to make
sure it wasn't an application I'd loaded since the 1.5 upgrade. The
problem did not go away with the reset. So it's either a bug, or a
sudden (and unlikely) hardware defect in my phone or headset jack
adapter. Note: I have not downgraded to 1.1 or 1.0 to see if audio
works. I may do that if I get bored, but from what you're saying, it
may indeed be a bug.

Thanks!
-Clint

On Apr 28, 1:12 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote:
> Hmmmm, ok, that sounds wrong.
>
> Very unfortunately I don't have time to try to reproduce this issue
> myself right now. Could you be kind enough to head tohttp://b.android.com/and file a bug report for this?

Ian Kumlien

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Apr 28, 2009, 4:57:45 PM4/28/09
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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Clint Fisher <clinton...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just successfully updated to Android 1.5 from the HTC site.

I cannot tell if this is a coincidental hardware failure, or if the
update broke it, but...

Using the HTC headphone adapter, the audio out would switch from
internal speaker to external 3.5mm jack whenever the 3.5mm plug was
plugged in.  After 1.5, this stopped working.   I plug in the 3.5mm
stereo plug, and the audio stays with the internal speaker.

Anyone else see this problem?

Sound works just fine for me, was listening to mp3s on my way to work and on my way from work, no problems.
 

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:03:44 PM4/28/09
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Thanks. This is with ADP1 updated to 1.5, using the HTC headphone
adapter?

On Apr 28, 1:57 pm, Ian Kumlien <pomacs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:40:37 PM4/28/09
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Update: I just went to a TMobile store, and they plugged in the stock
headset that comes with the Android. It worked!

So... This problem may be only when using an HTC Adapter, or it could
be a suddenly-manifested problem with my own adapter. I have a friend
who has a different HTC phone and he's going to try the adapter I'm
using to see if it works or fails.

Ian, were you using the stock headphones, or was it going through the
HTC adapter?

Thanks!
-Clint

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:57:26 PM4/28/09
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It just gets weirder. I was able to verify that my headset adapter is
working - at least it works correctly on my friend's HTC TouchPro -
but it still doesn't work on the ADP1. Bizarre.

I'd love to hear whether or not anyone gets audio correctly through a
headset adapter (vs. straight headset).

Thanks!

-Clint

jjd

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:58:14 PM4/28/09
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I also have android 1.5 and working headphone audio, using a 3rd party
USB->3.5mm adapter and standard headphones. I can't put my hands on
the HTC-supplied headphones just now.

--Jim--

jjd

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Apr 28, 2009, 5:58:14 PM4/28/09
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I also have android 1.5 and working headphone audio, using a 3rd party
USB->3.5mm adapter and standard headphones. I can't put my hands on
the HTC-supplied headphones just now.

--Jim--

On Apr 28, 4:04 pm, Clint Fisher <clintonefis...@gmail.com> wrote:

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 6:10:20 PM4/28/09
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BTW, so we're all on the same page, the HTC adapter that I'm
experiencing trouble with is this one:

http://store.androidcommunity.com/content/accessories/11-75--4401.htm

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 9:26:19 PM4/28/09
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Update 3: (also posted this to issue 2354: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2534
)

I now have a pretty good handle on what works correctly, and what
fails:

FAILS: The HTC rectangular Multifunction-Adapter:

http://store.androidcentral.com/htc-multifunction-audio-adapter/11A75A4401.htm

I have two of these known to be working, and they both fail with
1.5.

WORKS: The included-with-the-ADP1 stereo headphones. These work fine.

WORKS: The basic HTC 3.5mm headset adapter.

So the only thing that fails is the HTC rectangular multifunction -
however, *both*
these units are known-working - at least with 1.0 and 1.1 and an HTC
TouchPro - so
I'm guessing there's some kind of a difference in the "headset
present" signaling?

The next step is to repro this on another 1.5'd G1 using the
aforementioned adapter.
Anyone out there have 1.5 and a rectangular multifunction adapter?
(I'd love to find
out if the other multifunction adapters pass/fail, or if it's an
anomaly with my phone hardware and 1.5)

Clint Fisher

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Apr 28, 2009, 9:31:38 PM4/28/09
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WORKS: Basic-HTC 3.5mm headset adapter when piped *through* the
rectangular-multifunction's 11-pin pass-through.

Davide Baroncelli

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May 4, 2009, 2:05:25 PM5/4/09
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FWIW I'm experiencing this problem as well, and found a couple of
other references on the web from people that sees it happening.
Annoying.

On Apr 29, 2:26 am, Clint Fisher <clintonefis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Update 3:  (also posted this to issue 2354:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2534
> )
>
> I now have a pretty good handle on what works correctly, and what
> fails:
>
> FAILS: The HTC rectangular Multifunction-Adapter:
>
> http://store.androidcentral.com/htc-multifunction-audio-adapter/11A75...

Daniel F

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May 5, 2009, 6:38:37 PM5/5/09
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Clint,

I am having the same problem with my htc adapter as well, since
receiving the 1.5 update. I own two htc adapters, one that plugs to a
3.5mm audio jack directly and another that splits the phones miniUSB
jack so that i can plug both an audio source (either 3.5mm/2.5mm or
usb) and a charge source (miniUSB) to the phone at the same time. The
simple 3.5 jack works fine, the one that splits does not (it does
charge however)...

So its def. Not just u, and doesnt seem to come from a faulty adapter.

any fix for this would b appreciated.

On Apr 28, 4:04 pm, Clint Fisher <clintonefis...@gmail.com> wrote:

raw235

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May 10, 2009, 4:40:36 PM5/10/09
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Exactly the same Problem here... i can't live without playing mp3 in
my car :(

the small extusb to 3,5mm adapter works perfect...

MeNaCe

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May 14, 2009, 3:50:58 AM5/14/09
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yea same problem here i got the 3 in 1 aapte rand it stop working
since 1.5

mrmark

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May 22, 2009, 7:24:40 AM5/22/09
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i have exactly the same problem, splitter works fine on htc touch pro
with windows ce.

On Apr 28, 10:57 pm, Ian Kumlien <pomacs...@gmail.com> wrote:

rob_e

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May 31, 2009, 1:01:03 AM5/31/09
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I have the same rectangle adapter you have and it also stopped
working. The only thing i did notice prior to the update and after the
update, that the light on the rectangular connector no longer comes on
anymore but, the connector can still be connected to a charger.

Katie

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May 31, 2009, 2:30:37 AM5/31/09
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I also have the rectangular HTC headphone splitter. Here are my test
results afer updating to 1.5:

Fails: rectangular adapter directly

Works: basic headphone adapter

Works: basic adapter passed through rectangular adapter

So yeah, at least we have something of a workaround for now, for those
who have both adapters anyway. This seems to have come from a
divverence in the way Android handles being connected or disconnected
from an audio adapter, since the media player stops now when you
disconnect the adapter.

On Apr 28, 6:26 pm, Clint Fisher <clintonefis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Update 3:  (also posted this to issue 2354:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2534
> )
>
> I now have a pretty good handle on what works correctly, and what
> fails:
>
> FAILS: The HTC rectangular Multifunction-Adapter:
>
> http://store.androidcentral.com/htc-multifunction-audio-adapter/11A75...

Mike

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Jun 1, 2009, 5:18:20 PM6/1/09
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I am getting the issue also. After updating to 1.5, the audio on the
HTC multifunction adapter no longer works. The phone no longer detects
that an external headphone is plugged in.

Very disappointing. So far with my experience, the 1.5 update has
caused more problems than it solved.

wls508

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Jun 4, 2009, 7:55:43 PM6/4/09
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My 3-in-1 HTC adapter doesn't work directly anymore since 1.5 came
into my life, but I found an arcane workaround that must be done in
this exact order.

1) Plug HTC 3-in-1 adapter into G1
2) Plug mini-USB-to-3.5mm adapter with headphones into 3-in-1 adapter
3) Activate music play via the phone or the button on the mini-USB-
to-3.5mm adapter
4) Plug 3.5mm headphones into 3-in-1 adapter
5) Unplug mini-USB-to-3.5mm adapter
6) Finally enjoy music again

Needless to say, this bug needs to get fixed asap. /wls

rob_e

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Jun 5, 2009, 12:02:56 PM6/5/09
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http://code.google.com/p/toggleheadset
small work around made, to get to work i had to plug in the connector
then select the widget twice.

hyoomen

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Jul 3, 2009, 4:28:13 PM7/3/09
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Also experiencing this issue w/ HTC rectangular 3-in-1 multifunction
adapter on two basic 1.5 phones (my household has 4 total).

My custom-MOD phone does not experience the same issue.

Thanks,
Rob
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