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Rick Nemer

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Apr 29, 2008, 3:39:49 PM4/29/08
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We need a speaker for this Thursday's formal meeting at New Era Cafe.
Seems more conversations on cell phones than Linux.
Should we try to get some one to talk about the digital data network?
Let me know if you can give a talk on how CDMA G3 and PCS hones handle network traffic.
Lets get a talk together. I am swamped this week, If some one can help out that would be great.
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stevea

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Apr 30, 2008, 10:13:35 AM4/30/08
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Rick Nemer wrote:
> We need a speaker for this Thursday's formal meeting at New Era Cafe.

I think this just points at the fact that we really need to select
upcoming speaker
and topic at *each* meeting. Perhaps 2 months in advance, rather than
wait till
the last minute. Can we make it are a regular part of each meeting to
select
speaker & topic ?

-S

Rick Nemer

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Apr 30, 2008, 11:20:54 AM4/30/08
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Steve, I have tried and get a lot of blank looks, I can't do it on my own and in fact of putting the request out all the time on the email list where it reaches everyone i still get little to no response. If you have some ideas I would like to make you the meeting coordinator.
I am trying to line up some Cellular Data talk for this meeting. It seems more people on this list are interested in cell phones than Linux.
Go for it!   I can use the help. 
Rick//

steve-a...@adelphia.net

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Apr 30, 2008, 4:03:55 PM4/30/08
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Rick Nemer wrote:
> Steve, I have tried and get a lot of blank looks, I can't do it on my
> own and in fact of putting the request out all the time on the email
> list where it reaches everyone i still get little to no response. If
> you have some ideas I would like to make you the meeting coordinator.

OK Rick, I'll take that job, but there is one stipulation; No
presentation can begin until we have two upcoming ones assigned. This
*should* take less than 5 minutes of meeting time and I suggest we start
this policy tomorrow. I'll take up the slack by presenting in either
June or July myself (unless someone else wants these), so the task is to
come up with just one topic+presenter tomorrow.

I'll post separately, but anyone with an idea for a talk or an interest
in presenting, please contact me directly:

steve-a...@roadrunner.com or steve-a...@adelphia.ne
<mailto:steve-a...@adelphia.net>
330-283-1446 (cell)

-Steve

Rick Nemer

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Apr 30, 2008, 4:35:38 PM4/30/08
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Ok Thats great Steve, I am thinking we can get some one in the group to talk on some linux tool or distro experience for tomorrow night. It does not need to be very formal.
I am still waiting to hear back from a Verizon engineer that i know.
We can have an informal or planning meeting too. Make it a round table talk for questions and answers.
We have not done that for a long time. See what fits the group that turn out.

steve-a...@adelphia.net

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Apr 30, 2008, 5:49:45 PM4/30/08
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Yes - let's spend a little time at tomorrow's meeting trying to figure
out what we all want from ALUG in terms of meeting content. But
I still think we need to plan in advance by two meetings. That way
we can get out the word well in advance of meeting night. Right
now it's a pretty iffy thing to invite someone to a meeting without
any idea what will be presented. Also it's hard to hold my own
schedule open when I don't know what the talk will be about.

Round table Q&A sounds great, too. An open Q&A session is
fine, but I wonder if we couldn't also do this every few meetings
on a focussed topic area ....
/ Various desktops - KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment ... .
/ Why are you still using Windows ?
/ Various licenses GPLvN, LGPL BSD , Xorg, Xfree and
their meaning.
/ Distros compared.
/ Home/SOHO networking, what are best practices ?
We still need a moderator to keep things on track.

Anyone else have ideas (either round-table or presentation
topics) ?

Presenters Needed ...
Thursday May 1, 2008: ???
Thursday June 5, 2008:
Thursday July 3, 2008:
Thursday August 7, 2008:
Thursday September 4, 2008:
Thursday October 2, 2008:
Thursday November 6, 2008:
Thursday December 4, 2008:


Since I don't speak Chinese the RedFlag Linux (a Chinese
RedHat clone) will take low priority ;^)

-S

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Christopher Cole

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Apr 30, 2008, 8:24:35 PM4/30/08
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 05:49:45PM -0400, steve-a...@adelphia.net wrote:
> Yes - let's spend a little time at tomorrow's meeting trying to figure
> out what we all want from ALUG in terms of meeting content.

I would like to see more cutting edge, motivating Linux topics..
Here are some ideas that interest me:


Industrial use of Linux (control & automation)

Linux 911 systems? Has anyone helped a town install one?

New CPU internals: 64 bit CPUs, caching, pipelining, VT / recent advancements

SMP - why it still sucks on Linux?

How to write a Linux application to make effective use of an SMP system

Licensing: How it impacts companies integrating Linux into their product

Speech recognition on Linux

Linux-based 3D CAD / FEA package (Comsol on Linux is extremely impressive!)

Movie authoring in Linux (Cinelerra?)

3D rendering (Anyone have some really cool POVRAY scenes they've done?)

Animation using Linux (Blender, scripted POVRay)

Music authoring? Anyone using MIDI on Linux?

C# on Linux (Mono project, dotGNU)

Games!! Are there any games yet? What? No GTA4 for Linux???!


If you have any experience with any of the above topics, then please STEP UP
and contribute! We don't expect an all-knowing guru on any particular topic.
Even if you know just a small amount of any of the above topics, it may be a
lot more than the rest of us know about it. Do not underestimate yourself :)

Thanks, Steve for helping out the ALUG :)
Take care,
-Chris

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stevea

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May 1, 2008, 11:03:19 AM5/1/08
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Great ideas Chris. I hope everyone comes with at least a couple ideas
on topics they'd
like to see. I agree that need more "cutting edge" topics, but of
course we have only
a small pool of presenters to draw from (maybe we can draw some
outsiders to present).
So rather than expect an authoritative presentation I hope some people
present their
"end user" experience (how to install and some basic uses) and field
question.

-S

Bill Mayhew

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May 1, 2008, 3:09:37 PM5/1/08
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Is there such a thing as a Linux based 9-1-1 system? I know, of
course, there are VOIP/SIP products, some even commercial. What I
suspect is that cities would be reluctant to sign a contract for a
system including open source components becuase there is no party to
sue if the open source component, say the under-lying operating
system, breaks. That's an interesting thing to ponder. The open
source makes code review possible and you can look deeper than you can
look if you are just writing do an API specification as you would with
Windows.

Anything that is safety and welfare related is an interesting
question. I've noticed that most EULAs are starting to have weasel
language that there is no way in hell the product (hardware or
software) is suitable for use in a life sustaining or safety related
application. It is nice to know that APC will tell you how wonderful
and reliable their UPSes are out one side of its mouth, but then tell
you not to trust it to run your IC infusion pump or traffic control
signal out the other side of its mouth.

Bill

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Chris Clymer

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May 3, 2008, 11:24:48 AM5/3/08
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On May 1, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Bill Mayhew wrote:

>
> Is there such a thing as a Linux based 9-1-1 system? I know, of
> course, there are VOIP/SIP products, some even commercial. What I
> suspect is that cities would be reluctant to sign a contract for a
> system including open source components becuase there is no party to
> sue if the open source component, say the under-lying operating
> system, breaks. That's an interesting thing to ponder. The open
> source makes code review possible and you can look deeper than you can
> look if you are just writing do an API specification as you would with
> Windows.
>

This is precisely why companies like Red Hat and Novell exist. Yes,
anyone can download a debian disk and roll their own Asterisk box.
If I buy from Red Hat, and get a support contract on Asterisk from
Digium I've got all sorts of sue-worthy targets. I'm going to buy
hardware from a vendor like Dell with a support contract attached for
the same reason.

Open source and commercial are definitely not separate concepts. One
of the really fantastic things happening these days is the amazing
amount of large corporate entities rolling open source applications
into their stacks and selling support on them. IBM is a great
example of this.

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