Does anyone really know what time it is?
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Ram
Apr 30, 2008, 8:44:19 AM4/30/08
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It's just so perplexing "if you think about it." Something like
"What's wrong with right now unless you think about it." ;~)
Right now, it's just Now, but it's a different day in Asia than it is
in the U.S. or Hawaii (kinda the U.S. but not really).
What does this notion of time have to do with Life except for
seemingly tinkering with the multitude of biorythms, helping us to
keep track of where the sun is in the sky, as well as whether your
friends and colleagues on the other side of the globe are awake or
not?
The Sun doesn't have any sense of moving across the sky of the earth,
or of day or night, and it never even sees the dark side of the moon.
So, what time is it for the Sun?
Does anyone really know what time it is? Seems like Now is a good
place (time?) to start the query.
;o)
"What's wrong with right now unless you think about it." ;~)
Right now, it's just Now, but it's a different day in Asia than it is
in the U.S. or Hawaii (kinda the U.S. but not really).
What does this notion of time have to do with Life except for
seemingly tinkering with the multitude of biorythms, helping us to
keep track of where the sun is in the sky, as well as whether your
friends and colleagues on the other side of the globe are awake or
not?
The Sun doesn't have any sense of moving across the sky of the earth,
or of day or night, and it never even sees the dark side of the moon.
So, what time is it for the Sun?
Does anyone really know what time it is? Seems like Now is a good
place (time?) to start the query.
;o)
Gary
Apr 30, 2008, 10:18:28 AM4/30/08
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Time to get dressed and head out to work.
Richard
Apr 30, 2008, 2:11:33 PM4/30/08
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"...the past and future are realillusions...they exist only in the
present, which is what there is and all that there is." ~~Alan Watts
Compare to Balkesar's analogy of reality being like a great wall that
is always present but time is what is needed to observe the wall piece
by piece.
Since retiring and having nothing to do and no place to be, time to
me, seems to run together so as not to exist. The earth's rotation on
it's axis is just some arbitrary way of "dividing up the wall".
Mahakali
Apr 30, 2008, 4:45:48 PM4/30/08
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The thought you had about "Does anyone really know what time it is?"
was a thought in time. Without time, you would not have thoughts as
they have a start, a middle ..and an end!
Kali
was a thought in time. Without time, you would not have thoughts as
they have a start, a middle ..and an end!
Kali
Ram
Apr 30, 2008, 11:18:42 PM4/30/08
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Aha! So time is a sucession of thought instants in the Now? Time is
only measured by and registered in thoughts?
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empty2
May 1, 2008, 12:29:59 AM5/1/08
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Sorry, you're too late!
No, seriously, it takes time to perceive anything, it takes time to
think, so whatever we 'get' has already passed.
Yet we seem to be standing still, winessing this perpetual movement.
So are we standing still, or are we the movement, or both?
As long as there's a 'subject' that is looking, a dichotomy persists.
If the 'subject' identifies itself somehow with the movement (object),
how can there be awareness of movement?
Now we have a self to see the movement, but when the separate subject
surrenders itself (as being an object itself) to the total object as
being part and parcel, one and the same (an object)........... - no
longer any such thing as subject and object, no movement, no-thing.
Thought you might enjoy this from The Sutra of Complete Enlightenment:
"“Virtuous man, all illusory projections of sentient beings arise from
the wondrous mind of the Tathagata’s Complete Enlightenment, just like
flowers in the sky which come into existence from out of the sky. When
the illusory flower vanishes, the nature of the sky is not marred.
Likewise, the illusory mind of sentient beings relies on illusory
[cultivation] for its extinction. When all illusions are extinguished,
the enlightened mind remains unmoved. Speaking of enlightenment in
contrast to illusion is itself an illusion. To say that enlightenment
exists is to not have left illusion yet. [However], to say that
enlightenment does not exist is also no different. Therefore, the
extinction of illusion is called the unmoving [mind of enlightenment].
“Virtuous man, all bodhisattvas and sentient beings in the”Dharma
Ending Age" should separate [themselves] from all illusory projections
and deluded realms. [However], when one clings firmly to the mind that
separates [from all illusory projections and deluded realms], this
mind [should also be taken as] an illusion, and one should separate
oneself from it. Because this separation is an illusion, it should
also be separated. One should then be free from even this ‘separating
from the illusion of separation!’ When there remains nothing to be
seperated from, all illusions are eliminated. It is like rubbing two
pieces of wood together to obtain fire. When the fire ignites and the
wood completely burns, the ashes fly away and the smoke vanishes.
Using illusion to remedy illusion is just like this. Yet even though
illusions are exhausted, one does not enter annihilation.
“Virtuous man, to know illusion is to depart from it; there is no
[need to] contrive expedient means! To depart from illusion is to be
enlightened; there are no gradual steps!
.........interesting, - we usually think of 'separating' as leaving
alone or somehow discarding, which of course perpetuates the idea of
separation. When you 'think about it', the only way to make separation
go away is to *join* whatever appears separate and let it all be one.
"All the same shit", seems to be an appropriate description of both
the individual self and everything it perceives, as long as we view
the present set-up as unsatisfactory.
Neti, neti - not this, not this, may well be true in regard to the
self (and its apparently separate objects), but as long as it's there,
it IS THIS and nothing else, with no distinctions to be made. If any
witness of this totality remains, it's the otherwise empty Self.
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No, seriously, it takes time to perceive anything, it takes time to
think, so whatever we 'get' has already passed.
Yet we seem to be standing still, winessing this perpetual movement.
So are we standing still, or are we the movement, or both?
As long as there's a 'subject' that is looking, a dichotomy persists.
If the 'subject' identifies itself somehow with the movement (object),
how can there be awareness of movement?
Now we have a self to see the movement, but when the separate subject
surrenders itself (as being an object itself) to the total object as
being part and parcel, one and the same (an object)........... - no
longer any such thing as subject and object, no movement, no-thing.
Thought you might enjoy this from The Sutra of Complete Enlightenment:
"“Virtuous man, all illusory projections of sentient beings arise from
the wondrous mind of the Tathagata’s Complete Enlightenment, just like
flowers in the sky which come into existence from out of the sky. When
the illusory flower vanishes, the nature of the sky is not marred.
Likewise, the illusory mind of sentient beings relies on illusory
[cultivation] for its extinction. When all illusions are extinguished,
the enlightened mind remains unmoved. Speaking of enlightenment in
contrast to illusion is itself an illusion. To say that enlightenment
exists is to not have left illusion yet. [However], to say that
enlightenment does not exist is also no different. Therefore, the
extinction of illusion is called the unmoving [mind of enlightenment].
“Virtuous man, all bodhisattvas and sentient beings in the”Dharma
Ending Age" should separate [themselves] from all illusory projections
and deluded realms. [However], when one clings firmly to the mind that
separates [from all illusory projections and deluded realms], this
mind [should also be taken as] an illusion, and one should separate
oneself from it. Because this separation is an illusion, it should
also be separated. One should then be free from even this ‘separating
from the illusion of separation!’ When there remains nothing to be
seperated from, all illusions are eliminated. It is like rubbing two
pieces of wood together to obtain fire. When the fire ignites and the
wood completely burns, the ashes fly away and the smoke vanishes.
Using illusion to remedy illusion is just like this. Yet even though
illusions are exhausted, one does not enter annihilation.
“Virtuous man, to know illusion is to depart from it; there is no
[need to] contrive expedient means! To depart from illusion is to be
enlightened; there are no gradual steps!
.........interesting, - we usually think of 'separating' as leaving
alone or somehow discarding, which of course perpetuates the idea of
separation. When you 'think about it', the only way to make separation
go away is to *join* whatever appears separate and let it all be one.
"All the same shit", seems to be an appropriate description of both
the individual self and everything it perceives, as long as we view
the present set-up as unsatisfactory.
Neti, neti - not this, not this, may well be true in regard to the
self (and its apparently separate objects), but as long as it's there,
it IS THIS and nothing else, with no distinctions to be made. If any
witness of this totality remains, it's the otherwise empty Self.
Mahakali
May 1, 2008, 3:32:58 AM5/1/08
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What I said was that your question was an example of a thought in
time; it could have been an experience or else. If it is a product of
the mind, then, it will be formulated within a certain timeframe.
Kali
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time; it could have been an experience or else. If it is a product of
the mind, then, it will be formulated within a certain timeframe.
Kali
Ram
May 1, 2008, 6:52:42 AM5/1/08
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Nice quote Empty. I'm sure it's much better than the sutra of not
quite complete enlightenment. ;~)
But the question remains. What is this time stuff. Is it measured by
thought, in thought, or are thoughts occuring in it? How is there any
time to occur in if it is not known in/by thought? Or is it the
illusory motion of illusory separation?
Interesting term that. "Illusory separation." It indicates the
illusion of separateness of appearances even though there really is no
separation.
I thought someone surely would have answered the question "Does anyone
really know what time it is?" with "Does anybody really care."
:O)
I thought I said not to call me Shirley! And who came up with the
spelling for the word answer?
quite complete enlightenment. ;~)
But the question remains. What is this time stuff. Is it measured by
thought, in thought, or are thoughts occuring in it? How is there any
time to occur in if it is not known in/by thought? Or is it the
illusory motion of illusory separation?
Interesting term that. "Illusory separation." It indicates the
illusion of separateness of appearances even though there really is no
separation.
I thought someone surely would have answered the question "Does anyone
really know what time it is?" with "Does anybody really care."
:O)
I thought I said not to call me Shirley! And who came up with the
spelling for the word answer?
Richard
May 1, 2008, 10:55:16 AM5/1/08
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'I thought someone surely would have answered the question "Does
anyone
really know what time it is?" with "Does anybody really care."'
It took great self control for me not to. But then again, why should I
be predictable?
Good quote MT2.
I did tell of my own experience of time in retirement, so I hope it's
okay with Gary if I give a few more brief quotes. The first from
Deshimaru, the second from a couple of baseball players.
"Time is not a line, but a series of now-points."
Tom Seaver: Hey Yogi, what time is it?
Yogi Berra: You mean now?
And someone else (Franklin?) said, "If you love life you must love
time, for that's the stuff it's made of."
Ram
May 1, 2008, 11:00:24 AM5/1/08
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Yogi Berra, smarter than your average bear.
empty2
May 1, 2008, 9:12:03 PM5/1/08
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Answer:
– ORIGIN OE andswaru (n.), andswarian (v.), of Gmc origin; from a base
shared by swear.
"Time is not a line, but a series of now-points." - time seems to be
synonymous with movement and as such has no 'now' to speak of, let
alone a point, - more like a continuous flow. In order for there to be
a 'now', either the movement has to stop or the witness has to be
united with the movement.
Nagarjuna says this:
"The three times are non-existent and are mere imagination. They are
non-enduring, reciprocally established, disordered, not established
independently and thus, like all entities, non-existent."
........"Knowing the relativity of all,
The ultimate truth is always seen;
Dismissing the idea of beginning, middle and end
The flow is seen as Emptiness."
.......and,
"When the wheel of mind ceases to turn
All things come to an end.
There is nothing inherently substantial
And all things are utterly pure.
Alternatively, the answer is in the files section, 'I_knew_it(1)', I
swear.
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– ORIGIN OE andswaru (n.), andswarian (v.), of Gmc origin; from a base
shared by swear.
"Time is not a line, but a series of now-points." - time seems to be
synonymous with movement and as such has no 'now' to speak of, let
alone a point, - more like a continuous flow. In order for there to be
a 'now', either the movement has to stop or the witness has to be
united with the movement.
Nagarjuna says this:
"The three times are non-existent and are mere imagination. They are
non-enduring, reciprocally established, disordered, not established
independently and thus, like all entities, non-existent."
........"Knowing the relativity of all,
The ultimate truth is always seen;
Dismissing the idea of beginning, middle and end
The flow is seen as Emptiness."
.......and,
"When the wheel of mind ceases to turn
All things come to an end.
There is nothing inherently substantial
And all things are utterly pure.
Alternatively, the answer is in the files section, 'I_knew_it(1)', I
swear.
Ram
May 2, 2008, 8:03:33 AM5/2/08
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Time, the God of Death that consumes all, until it disappears itself
leaving only That which has no appearance or disappearance eternally
alone (all-one) just as it is.
leaving only That which has no appearance or disappearance eternally
alone (all-one) just as it is.
Marcus
May 2, 2008, 11:21:12 AM5/2/08
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.
Dr Steve Hawkins.
Quantum mechanics.
The mulitverse. Eleven dimensions of time-space.
We only experience those elements consistent with the laws of this
dimension. Like multiple trains running along multiple tracks. We
can only see clearly the trains that travel at the same speed and
direction.
Our time, like my hat is only created for our convenience. Fabricated
to regulate.
In the stillness of ones silence, at peaceful rest. When the body
gives way to the mind, the mind gives way to the soul, to realise all
infinity.
There never has been time.
.
Anandanand
May 11, 2008, 5:46:37 AM5/11/08
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On Apr 30, 11:11 pm, Richard <richar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Since retiring and having nothing to do and no place to be, time to
> me, seems to run together so as not to exist. The earth's rotation on
> it's axis is just some arbitrary way of "dividing up the wall".
past. You act in the now, other wise all (past, present, future) are
possibly the same. Maybe future is a possible action area and past is
dead in that respect.
empty2
May 11, 2008, 11:42:22 AM5/11/08
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It seems we are looking through a narrow slit with blankness on either
side watching the momentary arrival of manifestation from the future
disappearing instantaneously into the past. Memory and speculation
fill in the blanks and the mind gives it 'meaning'. Apart from that,
the concept of now is nonsensical, having no other or means to relate
to but a mental construct. One moment (re. your post on the
'enlightenment' thread, Anandanand) unidentified with thought leaves
nowhere, not even now or here as a concept on which the 'I' can stand,
a great release that seemingly makes it all worthwhile.
........just another speculation based on the past, but when the mood
strikes........
side watching the momentary arrival of manifestation from the future
disappearing instantaneously into the past. Memory and speculation
fill in the blanks and the mind gives it 'meaning'. Apart from that,
the concept of now is nonsensical, having no other or means to relate
to but a mental construct. One moment (re. your post on the
'enlightenment' thread, Anandanand) unidentified with thought leaves
nowhere, not even now or here as a concept on which the 'I' can stand,
a great release that seemingly makes it all worthwhile.
........just another speculation based on the past, but when the mood
strikes........
Marcus
May 12, 2008, 5:26:05 AM5/12/08
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.
Empty-too,
You said :-
“ ........just another speculation based on the past, but when the
mood
strikes........”
A mood. Is this the biasing of a moment.
So the experience of a moment can be bias.
What force could interfere in such a way.
Where does it come form ??
Who’s driving this ship anyway.
.
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Empty-too,
You said :-
“ ........just another speculation based on the past, but when the
mood
strikes........”
A mood. Is this the biasing of a moment.
So the experience of a moment can be bias.
What force could interfere in such a way.
Where does it come form ??
Who’s driving this ship anyway.
.
empty2
May 12, 2008, 6:39:42 AM5/12/08
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God knows......I'm not sure what you mean by 'biasing of the moment',
but who can predict what the next thought will be before it arrives,
and who knows when it might occur to one to disidentify with it and
succeeed, even if only partially. This would be about as now as it
gets, except now can only exist as a concept in relation to not-now.
Then I suppose we have to say, what ship....what driver, what
time....or where?
Indeed, although usage indicates its opposite - what now?
>What force could interfere in such a way.
Only the separating identity of 'I', - its memory and speculation
indulging in past and future, conceptualizing movement, mood and
feeling wrapped in thought.
>Where does it come form ??
'from' or 'form'......either way, you do ask the most difficult
questions! The answer is probably, either way - it doesn't because it
never was. 'It' is empty-too!
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but who can predict what the next thought will be before it arrives,
and who knows when it might occur to one to disidentify with it and
succeeed, even if only partially. This would be about as now as it
gets, except now can only exist as a concept in relation to not-now.
Then I suppose we have to say, what ship....what driver, what
time....or where?
Indeed, although usage indicates its opposite - what now?
>What force could interfere in such a way.
indulging in past and future, conceptualizing movement, mood and
feeling wrapped in thought.
>Where does it come form ??
questions! The answer is probably, either way - it doesn't because it
never was. 'It' is empty-too!
Anandanand
May 12, 2008, 7:53:19 AM5/12/08
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On May 11, 8:42 pm, empty2 <pldre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> One moment unidentified with thought leaves
> nowhere, not even now or here as a concept on which the 'I' can stand,
> a great release that seemingly makes it all worthwhile.
>
Interesting, yes, and may be once that 'one moment' is not there (a
> a great release that seemingly makes it all worthwhile.
>
dilemma whether it is there or not there) it takes the form of most
addictive narcotic. Who knows, may be smooth sailing there after (or
not after). You have come to the border of words empty.
empty2
May 12, 2008, 11:03:58 AM5/12/08
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A "most addictive narcotic", Anandanand? Shhh! or they'll make it
illegal!
Yes, I seem to have run out of words........for the *time* being.
Talking of running out, however.......the 20/20 cricket is great fun!
.....and the seas over here seem as choppy as ever.......
illegal!
Yes, I seem to have run out of words........for the *time* being.
Talking of running out, however.......the 20/20 cricket is great fun!
.....and the seas over here seem as choppy as ever.......
Marcus
May 13, 2008, 11:20:30 AM5/13/08
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Yes,
Sincere apologies for the obsessive style of questions. There is so
few places I can do this without judgement and criticism. Thank you
kindly.
"most addictive narcotic",
Interesting how in the limit philosophy of London’s street culture.
The expression “most addictive narcotic” gives validity and
attraction.
Discussions in exploration of the Advaita singularity are always
undermined because we are one. We ask a question then we answer it.
I read in Deepak Chopra’s last book (we like that) that mankind’s
curse, for want of a better word. Is forgetfulness. Guess I am just
trying to remember and looking for reassurance.
The “most addictive narcotic” for me, or this apparent me, is this
reassurance. I am convinced this is similar for many people.
Although we know the truth in our hearts, it grinds against so much of
what we have force to believe. Reassurance of our inner kingdom of
serenity, is a powerful narcotic. Sometimes called elation,
euphoria.
Like when you can separate from you. Never totally of course, because
then you would be dead. But briefly in a meditative trance, one knows
this condition to be true. A truth of the apparent self.
Euphoric serenity, wonder what the street price the drug barons would
charge.
Or is drugs just a lazy way of getting to the same place. Quick fix,
euphoric serenity therefore disregarded without value. Too easy.
Drugs, the abuse of our truth.
The cloud upon the sanctuary.
.
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Yes,
Sincere apologies for the obsessive style of questions. There is so
few places I can do this without judgement and criticism. Thank you
kindly.
"most addictive narcotic",
Interesting how in the limit philosophy of London’s street culture.
The expression “most addictive narcotic” gives validity and
attraction.
Discussions in exploration of the Advaita singularity are always
undermined because we are one. We ask a question then we answer it.
I read in Deepak Chopra’s last book (we like that) that mankind’s
curse, for want of a better word. Is forgetfulness. Guess I am just
trying to remember and looking for reassurance.
The “most addictive narcotic” for me, or this apparent me, is this
reassurance. I am convinced this is similar for many people.
Although we know the truth in our hearts, it grinds against so much of
what we have force to believe. Reassurance of our inner kingdom of
serenity, is a powerful narcotic. Sometimes called elation,
euphoria.
Like when you can separate from you. Never totally of course, because
then you would be dead. But briefly in a meditative trance, one knows
this condition to be true. A truth of the apparent self.
Euphoric serenity, wonder what the street price the drug barons would
charge.
Or is drugs just a lazy way of getting to the same place. Quick fix,
euphoric serenity therefore disregarded without value. Too easy.
Drugs, the abuse of our truth.
The cloud upon the sanctuary.
.
empty2
May 13, 2008, 7:25:13 PM5/13/08
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No worries, Marcus, questions are fun.
Of course we are already totally addicted to the intoxication of
individual existence and suffer accordingly, always thinking another
(even 'spiritual') fix will improve the situation and reassuringly
save the 'I/you' from 'death'.
Life is a health hazard, the most lethal drug of all - it kills, one
way or another, sooner or later. (:)
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Of course we are already totally addicted to the intoxication of
individual existence and suffer accordingly, always thinking another
(even 'spiritual') fix will improve the situation and reassuringly
save the 'I/you' from 'death'.
Life is a health hazard, the most lethal drug of all - it kills, one
way or another, sooner or later. (:)
Marcus
May 14, 2008, 6:27:48 AM5/14/08
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Cheers, Empty Too,
We think alike, such joy is this synchronicity.
I know where your coming from. Not being morbid or to put a negative
spin on the subject. But yes. We the collective human race in it’s
current shape and form is clearly born to die. To journey through
illusion in profound ignorance and error. Robbed of a cognitive
memory of before life. Yet tortured by an distant inner knowing of a
very different being-ness. To see the light but always just out of
reach.
It’s a good thing. To face this apparent irony, accept it and then
see through it, is the freedom of detachment. As GZ says in so many
beautiful ways. When that illusion of self is dissolved and your
apparent being-ness surrenders to the now-ness of singularity. All
previous judgements of chaos and order are understood as the
simplistic desperations of human darkness.
I carry a egotistical arrogance which wants to shout this from the
roof tops. It’s all been said before my masters far better looking
than me. To help other people see and feel the truth, yet respect it
does not work like that. Each being indicative of the whole, if I
can feel this way, then so shall the whole. When it is ready. It’s
an evolution thing, journey from darkness to the light in it’s own
time. We do all we can to help others when help is requested but
without expectation.
It’s a daily practice and I have to constantly remind myself of these
truths, but it’s better then trying to support illusions.
Is it wrong to say I am looking forward to finding out what happens
when we die. Not that I’m in any hurry of course, I still have lots
of apparent chocolate and ice-cream to consume. Must keep that
illusion going as long as possible.
Full steam ahead.
.
Cheers, Empty Too,
We think alike, such joy is this synchronicity.
I know where your coming from. Not being morbid or to put a negative
spin on the subject. But yes. We the collective human race in it’s
current shape and form is clearly born to die. To journey through
illusion in profound ignorance and error. Robbed of a cognitive
memory of before life. Yet tortured by an distant inner knowing of a
very different being-ness. To see the light but always just out of
reach.
It’s a good thing. To face this apparent irony, accept it and then
see through it, is the freedom of detachment. As GZ says in so many
beautiful ways. When that illusion of self is dissolved and your
apparent being-ness surrenders to the now-ness of singularity. All
previous judgements of chaos and order are understood as the
simplistic desperations of human darkness.
I carry a egotistical arrogance which wants to shout this from the
roof tops. It’s all been said before my masters far better looking
than me. To help other people see and feel the truth, yet respect it
does not work like that. Each being indicative of the whole, if I
can feel this way, then so shall the whole. When it is ready. It’s
an evolution thing, journey from darkness to the light in it’s own
time. We do all we can to help others when help is requested but
without expectation.
It’s a daily practice and I have to constantly remind myself of these
truths, but it’s better then trying to support illusions.
Is it wrong to say I am looking forward to finding out what happens
when we die. Not that I’m in any hurry of course, I still have lots
of apparent chocolate and ice-cream to consume. Must keep that
illusion going as long as possible.
Full steam ahead.
.
Ram
May 14, 2008, 1:55:43 PM5/14/08
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"Life is a health hazard, the most lethal drug of all - it kills, one
way or another, sooner or later. (:)"
The numb-er one cause of death, life.
way or another, sooner or later. (:)"
"If I ain't dead already, girl you know the reason why."
Obviously know One knows what time it is right NOW.
Ram
May 14, 2008, 2:02:38 PM5/14/08
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Marcus wrote: a lot of meaningless nonsense
To quote Seinfeld "Yada yada yada" or otherwords, "Blah, blah, f**king
blah."
- Everything you take to be true is truly zero. You take it to be true
and act accordingly. Take it for granted that none of what you see,
hear, or think is true. Like getting stomped on the head by a bull in
last nights dream, no lingering effects. Except in imagination.
;~)
To quote Seinfeld "Yada yada yada" or otherwords, "Blah, blah, f**king
blah."
- Everything you take to be true is truly zero. You take it to be true
and act accordingly. Take it for granted that none of what you see,
hear, or think is true. Like getting stomped on the head by a bull in
last nights dream, no lingering effects. Except in imagination.
;~)
Ram
May 14, 2008, 2:46:41 PM5/14/08
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Oh yeah, please don't take my comments "person"-ally.
Just words, not intended to offend.
Just words, not intended to offend.
Marcus
May 15, 2008, 7:56:03 AM5/15/08
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No offence taken. Thank you kindly Ram.
Intellectually just walking the dog.
The true party is going on in my heart, just trying to keep the noise
down.
The Buddha said “you will-not be punished for your anger, you will be
punished by it”
Try to see the good in all things, it makes your world good.
Stay cool.
.
No offence taken. Thank you kindly Ram.
Intellectually just walking the dog.
The true party is going on in my heart, just trying to keep the noise
down.
The Buddha said “you will-not be punished for your anger, you will be
punished by it”
Try to see the good in all things, it makes your world good.
Stay cool.
.
Marcus
May 15, 2008, 7:58:33 AM5/15/08
to AdvaitaNow
.
No offence taken. Thank you Ram.
Intellectually just walking the dog.
The true party is going on in my heart, just trying to keep the noise
down.
The Buddha said “you will-not be punished for your anger, you will be
punished by it”
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