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godszen  
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 More options Apr 30, 4:21 am
From: godszen <gods...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 4:21 am
Subject: Are You Really Enlightened?
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From: Anandanand <hgdin...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:15:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
I have learnt a bit of yoga from a master. If you stop your thought
process and all other mental activity (even if you stop thoughts the
mind still runs around looking here and there, listening, and doing
all such bodily activities)for 6 seconds (or somewhere thereabouts) it
becomes Dhyana. And many such dhyanas in continuation make a samadhi.
(of samadhi there are, I believe, many types) Normally you do all this
sitting in Padmasan or Siddhasan (sitting postures). When the above is
done while doing all day-to-day activities, maybe that is what is
Sahaja Nirvikalpa samadhi.
Of course this process is done in steps. so much for my knowledge
about enlightenment.

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Ram  
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From: Ram <ram.samar...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:15:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 8:15 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
Sahaja samadhi, Life spontaneously living itself, without any concept
(nirvikalpa) of doing or not doing, enlightened or unenlightened,
steps or processes. Just what is, being itself. How much time does
that take?

;~)


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From: Anandanand <hgdin...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:34:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 8:34 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
For you or for ME ?

For you I don't know.
for ME I really don't know !
As long as I can make loads of money and spend it comfortably, longer
the better !

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Ram  
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From: Ram <ram.samar...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:46:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 8:46 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
"For you or for ME ?"

Kindly explain the difference.

:~)

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Anandanand  
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From: Anandanand <hgdin...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:11:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 9:11 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
On a serious note, you have already explained. In my words, to say
that there is a difference and explain, will amount to not being
honest and to say there is none will be dishonest on my part.

The day I feel the pain of someone else, I could say there is none. Or
will I?

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Ram  
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From: Ram <ram.samar...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:24:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 9:24 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
If you are seeking, then be clear about what it is that you are
seeking and be one-pointed about that with resolve. In other words,
find out who you really are. Earnestness and resolve will not let you
be led astray. Without such resolve, surely you will only bob around
and then be drowned in a sea of concepts and opinions.

Namaste

Since you didn't answer that question, how many paisa to the Euro?

:o)

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From: Anandanand <hgdin...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:52:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 30 2008 9:52 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?

On Apr 30, 6:24 pm, Ram <ram.samar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are seeking, then be clear about what it is that you are
> seeking and be one-pointed about that with resolve. In other words,
> find out who you really are. Earnestness and resolve will not let you
> be led astray.

Certainly.

Without such resolve, surely you will only bob around

> and then be drowned in a sea of concepts and opinions.

Am I already not? Don't I already have sea of concepts to be worried
about a few drops more? Won't even seven seas dry out if they have
to?

Not questions, more concepts.


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From: Richard <richar...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?

-- A decafeinated (?) Ram asks how much time does that take?
   Good koan.

--godszen, that guy in the video will be in your neck of the woods
June 1. Going?

--Enlightenment....a dualistic word as opposed
to endarkenment.

--(From song)"Gonna teach you how to meditate, read your horiscope and
cheat your fate, furthermore the hell with hate, come on aboard. Oh
the games people play now..."


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From: Richard <richar...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?

Boddhidharma said, "This one life has no form and is empty by nature.
If you become attached by any form, you should reject it. If you see
an ego, a soul, a birth, or a death, reject them all".

To this Seung Sahn might add, "And stop making them".


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From: jaiguru <jaigu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:53:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
Man can gain boundless happiness by merely turning the mind inwards.
Heart of every being is full of sound, light and joy. Curb the outside
attractions and return back to your home.

As long as the human being doesn’t dive inside of himself, his
miseries do not cease. Calling Him forever and ever, dive deep into
your self.

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Richard  
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From: Richard <richar...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?

I like that: dive deep into yourself.

Goenka put it, Go from subtler to subtler.


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From: Gary <contaxg...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 1 2008 12:18 am
Subject: Re: Are You Really Enlightened?
The point was made that with enlightenment one masters the thought
process and can will thought, or not.  OK, so who is willing the
thought and isn;t the will just another thought and who