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Re: What constitutes a picotee?

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:33:05 UT

When I was a child I used to grow border carnations and I think the first
flower which hooked me onto them was a superb semi-double white with a
pencil picotee callee 'Eva'. However, if you look at any canation show
schedule you will see classes for white ground picotees and different
classes for yellow ground picotees.

RE: What constitutes a picotee?

madimm...@earthlink.net (Mark Dimmitt) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:48:08 UT

No single organization has the authority to dictate the definition of picotee, but in common usage the majority of horticulturists use the term for a narrow edge of color on WHITE or at least pale petals. Two colors on the same flower is more often called a bicolor, while white and another color are usually not. I have not seen anyone try to determine what "narrow" means, but I agree that Yasmin's flower needs to be called some other description. I myself would not call it a bicolor either.

Re: Volcano

sbm...@gmail.com (Steve) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:04:18 UT

Hi David -

Your flower is surely a beauty and a credit to your breeding program
particularly if it is unique and grows well. If you are asking me if I
prefer yours to the Thai 'Volcano', I do like the appearance of yours
more. I'm not enough of an expert to know if yours is unique or not. I
say this without knowing anything about the rest of the plant or its

What constitutes a picotee?

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:05:43 UT

The Royal Horticultural Society's Dictionary of Gardening defines a picotee
as: "Picotee - applied to flowers with a thin band of contrasting colour at
the edge of each petal". Note the word thin. Yasmin, most of your recent
photos could in no way be called picotees, they are bi-colours. Here are

Volcano

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:54:42 UT

Thank you Steve for bringing an important point about nomenclature.
'Volcano' is indeed listed by Adenium Center but it looks to be a rather
inferior cultivar - has anyone flowered it yet?

I took some more photos of my cultivar this morning - - which do you think
most resembles a volcano? My one has actual brilliant orange in the flower.

A Rather Beautiful Pencil Picotee

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:21:39 UT

This is the result of putting pollen of ('Moonlight Fairy' x Thai Pink
Picotee) onto 'Super Noble Concubine'

An Atypical Small Red Plum x Red Sinfonia

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:06:45 UT

This is one of the last of this batch to flower. Most have been very dark
but as you can see this one is very pale and quite pleasing. You can see
that it is going to be very floriferous.

Small Red Plum x Fragrant Delight

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:26:13 UT

This is the first of this cross to flower, which it did this week. I was
hoping to broaded the white picotee of 'Small Red Plum'. I didn't succeed
but the flower is quite pleasing. Hopefully some of its siblings may
produce the result I was hoping for.

New seedling

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:20:11 UT

This seedling flowerered for the first time this week. It was rather slow,
most of the batch flowered last year. The last photo is an old one of a
graft of 'Star of Red Sparkles' which I received from Mr. ko some time ago.

Re: Seeds available

gard...@aloha.net — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:02:28 UT

Hello David,
thank you for sharing very interesting method. I will try it next
time I'm sprouting adenium seeds. The method is similar to sprouting
some rare citrus seeds, except there we do the pealing before soaking.
vladimir
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Seeds available

david.clu...@gmail.com (David Clulow) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:03:57 UT

I have had many requests to supply seeds. I have resisted until now.
However,
I have re-made the cross ‘Spindrift’ x ‘Desert Star’ and have some seeds
available. This cross produced some outstanding seedlings, including ‘Miss
Venezuela’ and ‘Pink Pearl’. ‘Desert Star’ is also the parent of ‘Beauty

question to David

gard...@aloha.net — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:33:43 UT

Hello David,
since you might be experience with growing more hybrids of adenium
than others in this group, I would like to ask you:
which adenium has usually most seeds per pod?
I'm getting 9 to 37 good seeds per half-pod plus 1 or 2
underdeveloped, but have experience with only very few (3 hybrids)

Re: Policy & Two Non-Yellows

gard...@aloha.net — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:23:32 UT

Dear David,
I am sorry that you lost copies of your photos. I have in my hard
disk drive many of them but the older not with the text of emails.
I learned a lot from your post and am very grateful. Please do not
be discourage by person who does not appreciates your big
contribution - it is not for him that you are doing this.

Re: Super Noble Concubine x (Beauty Cloud II x Super Noble Concubine)

devaprat...@yahoo.com (Devapratim Mohanty) — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:48:28 UT

David it is amazing bloom.
I really admire your patience and commitment to adeniums.

Regards,

Dev

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This is what happened when I backcrossed 'Beauty Cloud II' x 'Super Noble Concubine' onto 'Super Noble Concubine. This seedling flowered for the first time this week. The second photo is of the seedling. I am also attaching photos of the parents for your interest.

Re: Policy & Two Non-Yellows

tubbspo...@aol.com (cheryl) — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:35:18 UT

Hello all--my name is cheryl and I have been lurking and reading on
this forum for a couple months--I have 2 adenium and wanted to learn
more about them. I enjoy all the information--and to include the
parentage of the crosses is fine--why not? Because they are all
hbyrids they will not come true from seed---so someone else could make