Interesting discussion on EVDL & Azure Stock Price
Randy Pollock
For those who do not follow the flood of messages on EVDL, I thought I
would point out a thread that our very own Dave Hale started:
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/evdl-azure-ac24-ls-under
performance-32757.html
No magic bullets (yet), but interesting thoughts.
In other news, I've been watching Azure's stock page on Yahoo to keep up
with press releases, etc. Ten weeks ago, the share price was hanging out
around $0.03/share. Two weeks ago, it briefly hit $0.35/share and seems to
be holding around $0.25/share.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=AZD.TO&t=1y
As far as I can tell, there is no reason for the movement - unless their
arrangement with Ford for small buses is worth more if people think Ford is
going to survive. Or perhaps automotive suppliers are no longer being
shunned in the market.
I bring this up because I view the health of Azure as critical to being
able to maintain our AC24 based cars.
In full disclosure, I bought 1,000 shares about a year ago at
~$0.30/share when I was impressed by their customer support (~$300). It was
play money and I thought there was a chance for them to do well if one of
their customers (Ford, Aptera, etc.) started selling lots of systems. I am
thinking of it as a lottery ticket. I broke my rule about buying stocks in
companies losing money.
- Randy
ps: Finally took my 914 to a mechanic to adjust the shift linkage. Shifts
like a dream now - had minor problems with three bushings that added up to
major problems. Back to trying to wring every last foot-pound out of the
motor via software settings...
David Hale
ps: Finally took my 914 to a mechanic to adjust the shift linkage. Shifts
like a dream now - had minor problems with three bushings that added up to
major problems.
Back to trying to wring every last foot-pound out of the
motor via software settings...
David Hale
heh, I have 1000 shares of Azure stock as well. They posted $7.4M losses for Q1 this year, but as you say their stock price is coming up (along with the rest of the market).
There are at least a few of us local to you; can you tell us where you took your 914 in?
Randy Pollock
On 6/17/09 9:51 AM, "David Hale" <astrono...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are at least a few of us local to you; can you tell us where you took
> your 914 in?
Leamon Stansell in Tujunga. Highly recommend on 914world.com and I concur.
He does this almost as a hobby, so he doesn't work on cars every day.
Reasonable prices and not afraid of unusual cars.
> Of curiosity, I see there are a couple
> of Solectria motors & controllers on eBay.
I looked and couldn't find any this morning. What are they going for?
- Randy
David Hale
heelt...@aol.com
Leamon Stansell in Tujunga. Highly recommend on 914world.com and I concur.
On 6/17/09 9:51 AM, "David Hale" <astrono...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are at least a few of us local to you; can you tell us where you took
> your 914 in?
He does this almost as a hobby, so he doesn't work on cars every day.
Reasonable prices and not afraid of unusual cars.
> Of curiosity, I see there are a coupleI looked and couldn't find any this morning. What are they going for?
> of Solectria motors & controllers on eBay.
Lou
i thought you may find this interesting, a charging plug standard, finally...
Some of you on this list are engineers and may know of this, but most of you are new to EVs and will benefit from learning about how you'll be charging your car soon.
It was announced on Sunday that a standard for EV charging will be voted on in July. The standard is known by the catchy name of "SAE J1772".
This is why we hire right brained people to come up with the names of things.
However, I definitely want the left brained engineers to be in charge of designing the tools I use for transferring electrons coursing through the grid into the battery of my car.
So, don't worry about remembering the J1772 part of the name because al you'll care about is how fast you can charge. There are going to be three levels.
Level 1 is already in effect. This is essentially any 120 Volt 20 amp plug. You have them all over your house, and if you have a garage, chances are you have several there, too.
Charging on a level 1 plug will be fine for most people who charge at home since you'll be able to get a good 4-5 miles of range per hour of charging. Starting a charge at midnight, for instance, will give you 28-35 miles of range by 7 am. If your car is a PHEV, that may be enough for your daily commute.
For full battery EVs, however, there will be a need to charge faster than that. Tesla is a perfect example. The battery pack in the Roadster holds 53 kWh of usable energy. Since many drivers of EVs will want to charge faster than the 120V plugs will allow, a 240V plug will be necessary. Level 2 charging will be 240V at 12 amps up to 80 amps. Telsa's High Power Connector, for instance, charges at 240V/70A, fast enough to pump 53 kWh into the battery in about 3.5 hours.
The standard discussed in the article will allow charging up to the 240V/80A limit, but will also allow your car to communicate with the utility supplying the electricity as well as the company supplying the charger. The utility will be able to control the charging to take advantage of the intermittent wind at night, or to prevent too many cars from charging during peak daytime hours when the grid may be over loaded. With "vehicle to grid" technology, utility operators will even be able to "buy" kWh from EV owners during peak hours to stave off a rolling black out.
This standard will be welcomed by all the car makers that are planning plug-in vehicles since they will all want to build the proper connector into their vehicles from the start. Let's hope the vote next month makes this a reality.
BTW, the level 3 standard is for really fast charging. These devices will be built by companies such as Aerovironment and placed along the freeways for use by EVs traveling long distances. Some batteries are capable of taking a fast charge (480V 600A or better), but not all can at this time. This level 3 standard is in the works and should be confirmed in the next few years.
Paul
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http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/06/28/underwriters-laboratories-approves-sae-j1772-charging-plug/