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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 10 2006, 6:53 pm
From: "twhsi" <joechang1...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:53:04 -0000
Local: Fri, Feb 10 2006 6:53 pm
Subject: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
感謝大家對晨間日記的熱情回應
我們的討論區會員也突破200大關
真是可以可賀

為了避免整個討論串過長
我再開設"晨間日記"心得分享區3.0版
及"晨間日記"新範本討論區
讓大家繼續討論

"晨間日記"心得分享區3.0版
您可以繼續分享您的晨間日記使用上得心得及問題

"晨間日記"新範本討論區
提供一些想會大家開發新範本的朋友及有興趣瞭解新範本的朋友一個空間

=========================

由於製作"晨間日記"新範本會牽涉大量專用術語
所以我獨立出一個討論串
這樣也閱讀的版面也會較為簡潔
讓享受寫日記樂趣的人,分享心得在心得分享區
研究日記寫法的人,分享在新範本討論區

也邀請PudensHo,JENNIFER,Rae,kfjien,jehuen,小正等
許多對晨間日記工具及範本想要改善的更好的朋友
可以在此討論

也可以如小正
大家分享彼此的EXCEL範本或其他程式

讓大家都找到自己最適合書寫日記得工具


 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 11 2006, 9:18 pm
From: "twhsi" <joechang1...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:18:48 -0800
Local: Sat, Feb 11 2006 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
我把"晨間日記"心得分享區2.0版
和新範本討論的最後留言也貼在此
大家可繼續討論
目前我手上有三種晨間日記版本
1. TWHSI自己設計的版本
2  小正的版本(我覺得和原作者使用的最像)
3  BEN的版本(非曼陀羅圖)

有興趣者可以和我索取

==============================
To PudensHo
謝謝您的心得分享,您真是用心`
細心比較BEN,JENNIFER等高手的想法
我也因為您的留言又跑去看BEN的範例圖,
並也期待看到他寄範例檔給我,
我的EXCEL功力其實普普,
期待看到您的新範本出現喔
屆時再請大家一起討論
辛苦您了

TO 小正
我覺得您的範例本真的很好(我認為比我的還好)
真正做到原作者所希望提供的功能
看得出來您的用心
而您不吝惜和大家分享
也十分的感謝您

感謝您對討論區的付出


 
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Charles Kuo  
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 More options Feb 12 2006, 10:11 am
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:11:27 +0800
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Subject: RE: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Twhsi,

I would like to have all the template. Please send me a copy.

Thanks and regards,

Charles


 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 12 2006, 9:14 pm
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:14:13 -0800
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Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
I SENT ALREADY.
If any problem, pla leave a message here.

 
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Bob0424  
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 More options Feb 13 2006, 3:16 am
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:16:30 -0800
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Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Twhsi您好
麻煩你將你有的範本,都給我一份,謝謝!

 
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smileting  
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 More options Feb 13 2006, 8:46 am
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:46:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Twhsi,你好!

能把模板发给我一份吗,我正在找人买日文版的晨间日记的书,同时也考虑做一个简体版的模板。


 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 13 2006, 7:11 pm
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:11:05 -0000
Local: Mon, Feb 13 2006 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Bob0424,smileting
已經寄出了,看看吧
有問題在這裡留言

 
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Bob0424  
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 More options Feb 14 2006, 4:38 am
From: "Bob0424" <bobc...@ms21.url.com.tw>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 01:38:16 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 14 2006 4:38 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
To twhsi
我已經收到你的範本了,謝謝!
我綜合你的和小正的範本做了一個我自已的範本
晚一點我會寄給你,希望能對大家有幫助!

目前已經達成
1.把紀念日和什麼日子的分頁顯示在蔓陀羅的中間部份

--自動搜尋對應的紀念日,並將結果帶入每日日記中。在'紀念日工'作表中輸入你的紀念日,如生日、忌日(日文-命日)、紀念日。然後會自動帶入到每一對應的 日記中。
  --忌日沒有自動顯示欄位。
2.設定特殊日子的倒數計日功能

--如日本軟體一樣,在'什麼日子'的工作表中設定特殊日子,並在前面加☆☆☆,例如☆☆☆情人節,然後在蔓陀羅的中間格的最後一列輸入情人節,就會自動計算還 有幾天。
3.所有公式設定固定,在重開新的日記本時,不會造成混亂。

--新增日記(當滿5年要開新檔時),只要輸入每個上、下半月第一天的日期,自動完成後面日期計算。

--'什麼日子'的工作表,也是只要輸入第一天的日期,會自動完成後面的日期計算。

尚在努力的部份:
1.將'什麼日子'工作表中的日期,依年份水平排列,以比較各年份中同一日期的特殊日子。
  --目前是直式列出五年的日期,365x5=1825
rows,很長不容易捲動。


 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 14 2006, 6:41 pm
From: "twhsi" <joechang1...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:41:13 -0800
Local: Tues, Feb 14 2006 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
DEAR BOB
謝謝您的分享,我收到您的範本了,
由於這兩天較忙,我會在使用過您的日記範本會在回饋給您我自己的想法
先謝謝您為討論區付出的努力

 
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kfjien  
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 1:15 am
From: "kfjien" <kfj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:15:46 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 1:15 am
Subject: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
對於這幾位朋友的貢獻,小弟十分佩服。

雖然寄發e-mail分享檔案,並非難事。
不過,如有需要,小弟倒是可以提供一個網路檔案分享的空間。
這樣的話,只要把檔案先發給小弟我,然後我在論壇上提供下載連結,這樣就不用寄來寄去。

不知道大家覺得如何?


 
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Jennifer Ling-Ling Tseng  
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 3:42 am
From: "Jennifer Ling-Ling Tseng" <077...@cpc.com.tw>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:42:47 +0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 3:42 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
我舉雙手贊成!!!

我正在想該有人自告奮勇做這件事吧!

kfjien,好小子,真是心有靈犀一點通!

有看我在你部落格上的留言嗎?

因為你的刺激,我開始在規劃我的部落格了。

Jennifer


 
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kfjien  
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 4:28 am
From: "kfjien" <kfj...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:28:09 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 4:28 am
Subject: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Jennifer,

大家互相幫忙也是應該的。

大家留在我的blog上的留言,我都有看只是有時沒回。謝謝Jennifer的意見。

希望早日看到Jennifer的部落格。我一定會去拜讀的。


 
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 4:51 am
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 01:51:13 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 4:51 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
希望早日看到Jennifer的部落格。  me too.

 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 6:45 pm
From: "twhsi" <joechang1...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:45:13 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
TO kfjien
已經寄給您範本了,目前有三份
還請找個網路空間放一下,
另外BOB及PudensHo 的範本都很有創意
但是還沒完全確定版本
所以先等一陣子在開放讓大家下載吧
謝謝您的熱心

TO Jennifer
加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油
加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油
加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油
加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油
加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油加油


 
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PudensHo  
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 More options Feb 15 2006, 10:42 pm
From: "PudensHo" <puden...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:42:54 -0800
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2006 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Bob0424 如不介意, 我會試試將你的製品的精髓 放入
自己範本當中~

太棒了!! 剛看回日文原作者的pdf檔,
正想如何設定年齡.

還有, 再跟twhsi 傾了一會.

也可以明白到沒有什麼最完善的範本

而相信只可以設定 更多不同的範本

就如按使用者需要自己選擇~

故kfjien所分享出來的空間到時一定很熱~
因為有各範本適合各類人使用~

而自己設定的初期範本已經寄給了 twhsi, jennifer & kfjien.
若bob0424有興趣, 就託怹們轉寄.

好!! 一同再在 Excel 的活用技巧上進步!!


 
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rebeccash...@hotmail.com  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 5:21 am
From: rebeccash...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:21:06 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 5:21 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
我不太會用excel,既然夥伴们都熱烈使用,輸人不輸陣,請那位善心人士給我一份範本
謝謝
Rebecca

 
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simonhcc@gmail.com  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 5:35 am
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:35:29 -0000
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 5:35 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Dear twhsi :

麻煩寄BEN的版本(非曼陀羅圖)給我.

Many thanks.


 
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kfjien  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 6:21 am
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 03:21:53 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 6:21 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Dear all,

現在已經將三個版本放在網路空間下載.請大家到以下連結下載

謝謝

「重要」晨間日記的連結

http://groups.google.com.tw/group/8habit/msg/045a30d8a86affb8


 
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twhsi  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 6:37 pm
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:37:08 -0000
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
simonhcc及Rebecca
請參考kfjien留言
目前已經有兩個連結點

 
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Bob0424  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 7:47 pm
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:47:05 -0800
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2006 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
To PudensHo
不客氣啦,之前將範本提供給twhsi,就是要和大家一同研究的。
我也想看一下你的範本,我再請twhsi給我吧!
希望大家的excel功力,因為做這個範本而蒸蒸日上。

To twhsi
如果你有空的話,請您把PudensHo的範本寄一份給我。
還有我先前說在"什麼日子"的未完成的水平排列部份,我又試了幾天還是沒有辦法。
所以近期應該不會再修訂(看PudenHo的範本是否能再給我一些啟發),而且我也已經用這個範本開始寫日記了,今天是第四天了喲,大家加油!

又我也看了您的網誌上的GTD,寫的真的很棒,先前就看過您在PIL的文章,資質愚鈍未能領會,現在正在學習中,希望我也能把GTD應用的很好。


 
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kfjien  
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 More options Feb 16 2006, 8:25 pm
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 17:25:06 -0800
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Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
Bob

我把PudensHo 的版本寄給你了。

看了PudensHo 與 bob 的版本,才知道原來Excel
也能作這麼多功能。

厲害厲害佩服佩服

我比較欣賞的是 BOB 的導覽與計算

PudensHo 的
設計也很棒。做了一個主頁加上其他的連結。還有日期的導覽方式也很不錯


 
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PudensHo  
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 More options Feb 17 2006, 1:37 am
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:37:17 -0800
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Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
"=INT((E13-(DATE(19xx,4,24)))/365)  " 很棒的公式!!
讓我的腦汁也流出來了~ :p 收下您的技巧~

若收到PudensHo的範本後,您會看到一個主Excel檔 - Pu's
晨間 + 12個月的Excel
檔(因沒有時間,故只做了三個月..)
Pudens的構思是用超連結隨時由 主檔進出 其他的月份·
也可以將一些必要的資料放入主檔中.
例如, (是新的,給Twhs..i等的範本也未有)
嘗試開設個人資料活頁,
Why? -
1. 可以記下您的出生年月日,再應用Bob
Excel年齡的設定, 改一改為
     =INT(((DATE(E15,F15,G15))-'[Pu''s 晨間.xls]Sheet1'!$A$1)/365)
    就可以應用了.
2.  記下自己的相片,每年一張也可以,同樣放在此頁
3.
寫下自己的興趣,資歷,對自己更了解或求職或找網友也方便.
:p

有時還可以將在日記記錄收畢了的技能或立記寫下來!!
4.  重要資料集中,Review 也方便.

另外,  Bob - 回應您 "什麼日子" 的設定的想法 -
可以從亞Ben的範本得靈感·
落實d來做是把"什麼日子"分別按月份放入每個月份檔中.
用超連結跳回主檔來來回回,或Jennifer 提供的 web
"下一頁" 按鈕使用
這樣就先減省點易於捲動先

Pudens 也會試試把"什麼日子"的功能加入自己範本
但想問問
"什麼日子"所寫的會不會每年都不一樣,還是同紀念日一樣.
年年相同.
那我們要介定好先.

另外 - 私人問題.....
請問大家會在忌日....寫什麼上去?
(因為不知怎樣用得好... 見笑)

等各位回覆  :)

=INT(((DATE(E15,F15,G15))-'[Pu''s 晨間.xls]Sheet1'!$A$1)/365)


 
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Bob0424  
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 More options Feb 17 2006, 3:31 am
From: "Bob0424" <bobc...@ms21.url.com.tw>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:31:54 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 17 2006 3:31 am
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
To kfjien
謝謝你,我已經收到你寄的PudensHo的範本了。
其實這些功能只是我工作上用到的應用而已,我只是學到小小皮毛。

To PudensHo
Excel裏有很多函數可以用,你可以試著去看說明檔,它會教你更多。

謝謝你告訴我有關超連結的建議,我的範本主要的目的是:不要太多的修改就可以新建一個日記檔。也就是說:有人在2007年拿到這個範本,只要把各分頁的第一個日 期改到當年份,它就是一個新的日記本。如果是我再5年之後,要延續這一個格式,我只要用複製-貼上的功能,就有新的日記,至於"什麼日子"的分頁,只要用拖拉複 製的方式就可以再拉出更長甚至10年的日子。這一切都不用再去指定日記本內和其他分頁(紀念日、什麼日子)的連結。

目前我的問題是因為"什麼日子"的分頁,在水平排列時會因一年365天或366天而有不同。目前我的功力還無法解決這特別的規律,或許等我再從別人那學習吧!

又"什麼日子"中所寫的當然是要和紀念日不一樣的,例如小孩的學校運動會、結婚5週年、某某朋友結婚都是特定的日子。如果是每年都一樣的,那你就要填到紀念日的 囉!

嗯!關於忌日這部份,我只是依循原軟體的內容,大家可以改自已喜歡的,不要像日本人那麼喜歡忌日就好了-開玩笑:p
阿彌陀佛。


 
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 More options Feb 17 2006, 6:20 pm
From: "twhsi" <joechang1...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:20:22 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 17 2006 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
DEAR BOB
感謝您對我寫的GTD文章的讚美,
最近因為寫晨間日記,結合GTD的想法後
讓我大量節省輸入GTD資料的時間,因為對我而言晨間日記也是一種任務及下一步行動的規劃,讓我在PALM上只用一個DIDDLEBUG的軟體,就可以做到原來 GTD的效果。
而且更加簡單及好用
等過一陣子我的GTD想法更為成熟後,再繼續分享我的心得。

今天才有時間好好看您的範本
我覺得您是個細心有聰明的人,
我很欣賞您的日期格式的公式(+1及日期格式的技巧).
忌日的部份也很好
似乎BOB您還沒有這本書,其實這本書很實務,開卷有益喔
您提到的

>>"什麼日子"的分頁,在水平排列時會因一年365天或366天而有不同。

可以利用書中"連動日記"的觀念解決(我,小正及PUDENS的範本都用到此觀念)
參考一下 :>

DEAR PUDENS
我覺得您晨間日記主檔的概念很好,
我總覺得這部份可以有所作為
繼續思考中,大家加油

DEAR ALL
目前我想提出一些思考點

陰曆的部份,中國人很多過農曆的生日,而且忌日也是用農曆算的
如果每天也可以列出國曆及農曆,兩種形式的年度紀念日都可以管理了

另外,我覺得晨間日記可以訓練我們過節的能力
真的很鼓勵大家來加入寫晨間日記的行列喔


 
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From: "PudensHo" <puden...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:37:26 -0800
Local: Fri, Feb 17 2006 9:37 pm
Subject: Re: "晨間日記"新範本討論區
經Bob
提醒,忘記了要為收到範本的人開始寫日記的年度作設定~
先謝過Bob!!

想了一個點子,就是在主檔設多一個活頁連結 叫 -
"認識自己"
使用此範本者必需先填寫此頁,除了姓名,出生年月日,等等
開始寫日記的年份也要記下來!
因為會用超連結,並 "+1" 的功能自動調整開始年份~

是的是的, 中國人百無禁忌~!
使之改為農曆紀念日就可以讓自己每年有兩次生日了~
:p

待期中試後,就再分享更新範本~


 
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