AW: Worlds Barbados

[Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt]

Hi Andrew,

that is good news. 200 GBP per boat is close to nothing and will definitely rise the interest of boats going to participate. If transport over land (which is often the more expensive part of the trip) is also reasonable I see potential for some fully packed container. I will pass that to the fleet and let you know about the response.

All the best

Tim

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Andrew Davies [mailto:Andrew...@Fireball.onyxnet.co.uk]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012 20:03
An: peter...@digicel.blackberry.com; Peter Marshall; Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt
Cc: M Pip Pearson
Betreff: Re: Worlds Barbados

Dear Tim

I have obtained a fantastic deal with Geest Shipping. They have regular
sailings leaving Le Havre (FRA) and Portsmouth (UK), take approx. 9 days to
get to Barbados.
If you assume 9 5O5's per 40 foot high cube container the cost per boat will
be approx 200 GBP / Euros this price includes port charges......this price
is to Barbados and return to Portsmouth / Le Havre.

Geest can also arrange road transport to local pickup points all around
Europe.
Full details will be on the website very soon and contact details.

We also have a great deal with Virgin Atlantic from London Gatwick also
there are flights with Condor Airlines from Frankfurt.
Also a full range of accommodation from self catering apartments to 4 / 5
star hotels and lots of options between. Again on the website very soon.

Please contact me if you need more information.

Best regards

Andrew Davies

Event Director
505 World Championships, Barbados 2013
Tel / Fax +44 (0) 1845 567 064 (office)
+44 (0) 77 86 333 585 (mobile)




----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W Gilkes" <peter...@digicel.blackberry.com>
To: "Peter Marshall" <peters...@caribsurf.com>; "Tim Böger -
PersonalMarkt" <boe...@personalmarkt.de>
Cc: "Andrew Davies" <andrew...@fireball.onyxnet.co.uk>; "M Pip Pearson"
<pip.p...@bigpond.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Worlds Barbados


> Dear Tim,
>
> Many thanks and your interest in the Barbados Worlds we would really
> appreciate your effort to attract all of the owners to do the Barbados
> Worlds 2013.
>
> I can assure you that the cost of getting your boats to and from Barbados
> will absolutely stun you when Andrew contacts you.
>
>
> Best regards
> Senator Peter Gilkes
> Cell +1 246 262 4783
> Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Peter Marshall" <peters...@caribsurf.com>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:25:11
> To: Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt<boe...@personalmarkt.de>
> Cc: Andrew Davies<Andrew...@Fireball.onyxnet.co.uk>; M
> Pearson<pip.p...@bigpond.com>; Peter
> Gilkes<peter...@digicel.blackberry.com>
> Subject: Re: Worlds Barbados
>
> Hi Tim
> Andrew Davies has information relating to transportation from Europe to
> Barbados .I have copied Andrew I am sure he will respond to you.
> Will we see you in La Rochelle? we will be there on July 17th. to make our
> presentation.
> Regards,
> Peter Marshall,
>
> Tel:
> 246 429 1202 (H)
> 246 262 6900 (M)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt" <boe...@personalmarkt.de>
> To: "Peter Marshall" <peters...@caribsurf.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:54 PM
> Subject: AW: Worlds Barbados
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> do you have any news regarding container transportation which I can
> distribute to the European fleets? We have a big meeting with approx 70
> boats in Italy next weekend and I will see a lot potential participants of
> the Barbados Worlds. If you have something please let me know
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Boeger
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Peter Marshall [mailto:peters...@caribsurf.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2012 20:25
> An: b...@sunbeach.net; peter...@digicel.blackberry.com; Tim Böger -
> PersonalMarkt
> Cc: andrew...@onyxnet.co.uk; Pip Pearson
> Betreff: Re: Worlds Barbados
>
> Dear Tim
> We are working on a plan for shipping the boats from Europe .
> We will be in touch with you in due course with complete information on
> the
> Championship . We look to seeing you in La Rochelle when we should have a
> lot more information for you.
> Regards,
> Peter Marshall,
>
> Tel:
> 246 429 1202 (H)
> 246 262 6900 (M)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt" <boe...@personalmarkt.de>
> To: <peter...@digicel.blackberry.com>; "Peter Marshall"
> <peters...@caribsurf.com>; <b...@sunbeach.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:37 PM
> Subject: AW: Worlds Barbados
>
>
> Hello Barbados Worlds Organizers,
>
> according to our international website Barbados Worlds are dated from
> April
> 22nd till May 3rd. This is unfortunately the most unsuitable date for our
> European race circuit. Anyway - that's the situation and we will try to
> make
> the best out of it and will work on getting as many boats to the event as
> possible.
>
> As planning our participation will take some time we start now organizing
> whatever is needed for our trip to you. One item is essential to define at
> an early stage to attract as many boats as possible: the shipping costs
> from
> Europe to Barbados and back. Forwarder, agents and a shipping company will
> be involved on both sides of the Atlantic. And that is for sure: if
> shipping
> can be offered at an attractive rate the number of participants will
> raise.
>
> Are there any activities on your side or chances to get these or other
> costs
> covered by the championchip's organisation, Barbados Marketing Office,
> related companies or anyobdy else? Who will be on the club's side our
> contact person in all shipping and container storage respects?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Tim Boeger
> ____________________________________________
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: peter...@digicel.blackberry.com
> [mailto:peter...@digicel.blackberry.com]
> Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 12:14
> An: Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt; Peter Marshall; b...@sunbeach.net
> Betreff: Re: Worlds Barbados
>
> Noted
> Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Böger - PersonalMarkt <boe...@personalmarkt.de>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:48:12
> To: <peters...@caribsurf.com>; <b...@sunbeach.net>;
> <peter...@digicel.blackberry.com>
> Subject: Worlds Barbados
>
> Hello Barbados Yachtsmen,
>
> I just read on the international 505-website (http://www.int505.org/)
> about
> the 505 Barbados worlds. I couldn't attend the 2010 worlds at Arhus
> (Denmark)
> where your presented your venue for a 505 worlds in 2013 but was more than
> happy to hear from the vote for your Barbados venue to run the 2013 505
> worlds in autumn. Unfortunately now I am as concerned about the new
> schedule
> as I was happy before. The now scheduled time of the year (spring) will
> spoil
> almost all important regattas of our European racing season which are all
> in
> April/May/June.
>
> As I understood, at the AGM in Arhus it was decided to give the event to
> Barbados because you could confirm an event schedule late in the year. If
> the
> date in spring will stay I will not be able to come over. No doubt this is
> no
> problem for the event, but I new most of the competitors of Europe who
> would
> go in autumn won't go in spring either.
>
> I have sailed in 13 world championchips since 1988. The time of the event
> has
> always been one of the most critical issues. With a better timing several
> worlds could have attracted much more people. In an attractive spot like
> Barbados you could get 100 boats on the line if the timing is right
> althoug
> you have no home fleet. One example for a good timing was Sydney 1988 when
> 58
> boats came the long way over to Australia in January. Another example was
> Cascais 2001 (late September shortly after the 9/11 ) where we got 106 (!)
> boats on the line without any homefleet. 33 boats came from overseas.
> Important to know is that more than 80% of the Europeans didn't got there
> by
> car but by container which means that the boats were 4 weeks before and
> after
> the event not in the hand of their owners. But late September it was no
> problem.
>
> The trip to Barbados will cost more than 4 weeks one way, 5 - 6 weeks are
> more likely (I have been to many overseas worlds, it will take that much
> time). Boats have to be packed, put on a truck, get through customs (may
> cost
> one week if unlucky), put on a vessel, getting shipped over to whatever
> port
> overseas, put on a truck again, transported to a place at a time where
> most
> boatowners can get to unload the container.
>
> If this will happen in November (or October if possible in Barbados) you
> will
> easily attract more than 90 boats possibly over 100 of which 60 - 70
> coming
> from Europe, where the most 505 sailors are located. If you do it in
> spring
> I
> guess only 40 - 50 boats. That would really be a pitty - for the 505
> class,
> for your country and for the club.
>
> If the spring date for the worlds can be changed please think seriously
> about
> changing it to a later date in the year - it will boost the number of
> boats
> attending.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Tim Boeger
> Skipper of 505 GER 9020
>
>