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  <title type="text">4D-Tech Google Group</title>
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  This is a technical discussion list for people who use 4th Dimension (4D), the database software * When joining, please use your real name (FORENAME SURNAME) as your &#39;nickname&#39; * You are prohibited from producing a public archive of this list * Slander and personal abuse will not be tolerated.
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  <updated>2008-07-18T15:59:29Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Steven</name>
  <email>sprins1...@aol.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-18T15:59:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/b3bae731a26e4226/1cbb26f921c2395b?show_docid=1cbb26f921c2395b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/b3bae731a26e4226/1cbb26f921c2395b?show_docid=1cbb26f921c2395b"/>
  <title type="text">Horizontal Palette Window</title>
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  I seem to recall that it is possible to place the drag bar of a &lt;br&gt; palette window on the left, in order to make horizontal palette &lt;br&gt; windows. However, I cannot find any reference to this, either if/how, &lt;br&gt; in 4D docs or in the archives of the NUG. Does anyone recall how to &lt;br&gt; modify the palette window number, 1984, to make the drag/title bar
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Pat Bensky</name>
  <email>pben...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-01T16:56:41Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/aceef320698319bf/b6b79a955b33aaa3?show_docid=b6b79a955b33aaa3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/aceef320698319bf/b6b79a955b33aaa3?show_docid=b6b79a955b33aaa3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Sub-Subtables</title>
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  Christopher, &lt;br&gt; Methinks you will have to open up the database with the version of 4D that &lt;br&gt; it works with (i.e. whatever version it was that allowed this lunacy), fix &lt;br&gt; it by moving the data into related tables, and then upgrade to 2004. &lt;br&gt; What version was it? &lt;br&gt; Pat &lt;br&gt; 2008/7/1 Christopher Dickey &amp;lt;usbc...@gmail.com&amp;gt;:
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  <author>
  <name>Christopher Dickey</name>
  <email>usbc...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-01T15:35:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/aceef320698319bf/30f4266e41e177ff?show_docid=30f4266e41e177ff</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/aceef320698319bf/30f4266e41e177ff?show_docid=30f4266e41e177ff"/>
  <title type="text">Sub-Subtables</title>
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  I am in the process of updating a very old 4D database to run properly &lt;br&gt; under 4D 2004. Apparently, when it was written, it was possible to &lt;br&gt; create a subtable of a subtable of a table, and the designers took &lt;br&gt; advantage of this. These sub-subtables were referenced by using &lt;br&gt; apostrophes ([Table]Subtable&#39;Sub-Subtable&#39; Sub-Subfield), the same way
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  <author>
  <name>Steve</name>
  <email>st...@dudley.id.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-26T01:53:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/58da397495d008ed/eabde59fa58ffca7?show_docid=eabde59fa58ffca7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/58da397495d008ed/eabde59fa58ffca7?show_docid=eabde59fa58ffca7"/>
  <title type="text">4D backup 6.7 - Mirror Mode</title>
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  Yes I know it is a old version but............ &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I would like to be able to start 4D Bcakup in mirror mode, In the 4D &lt;br&gt; Backup Reference Manual for version 6.7 on page 86 it states: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;You can also double-click the project file to launch 4D Backup in &lt;br&gt; Mirror mode and start the mirroring process. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have double-clicked the mirror.4BP file with no joy, it come up and
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ADeeg</name>
  <email>d...@node.de</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-18T16:30:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/6a823212d3fde5aa/d79194a5d1791f26?show_docid=d79194a5d1791f26</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/6a823212d3fde5aa/d79194a5d1791f26?show_docid=d79194a5d1791f26"/>
  <title type="text">[ANN] 4D PDF Mailer/Printer Plugin v. 2.4 available</title>
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  node Systemloesungen located in Berlin Germany releases an update for &lt;br&gt; the &lt;br&gt; 4D PDF Printer/Mailer 4D plugin &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The update version 2.4 is free for v2.x users &lt;br&gt; To download go to &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.node.de/indexplug.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Version 2.4: Whats new since 2.3 release: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; * updated 4D demo databases (including 4D v11)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Douglas von Roeder</name>
  <email>dvonroe...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T18:55:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/4fe905d16e8116c9?show_docid=4fe905d16e8116c9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/4fe905d16e8116c9?show_docid=4fe905d16e8116c9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  There are no transactions. &lt;br&gt; There are no calls to SEND VARIABLE &lt;br&gt; There are two calls SEND PACKET - one for the Log file and one for the &lt;br&gt; Profile file. Each of those are created anew daily at Zero dark, hence the &lt;br&gt; existence of thousands of file over a 2+ year time span. &lt;br&gt; On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Jack des Bouillons &amp;lt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jack des Bouillons</name>
  <email>jack.desbouill...@hobbsherder.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T15:38:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/42c6bcf7b5e2f7f6?show_docid=42c6bcf7b5e2f7f6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/42c6bcf7b5e2f7f6?show_docid=42c6bcf7b5e2f7f6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  Nothing..nada...zip.. &lt;br&gt; It ³looks² completely empty...we had no idea anything was there until we &lt;br&gt; started copying the main folder...at fist I thought these were log &lt;br&gt; files..they ARE created and are visible...But it turned out there were only &lt;br&gt; 10,000 or so log files...nothing that the 5.4 MILLION + that the system had
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jack des Bouillons</name>
  <email>jack.desbouill...@hobbsherder.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T15:35:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/1e450c72251f051b?show_docid=1e450c72251f051b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/1e450c72251f051b?show_docid=1e450c72251f051b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  I&#39;m not certain...I don&#39;t know if this particular app calls any &lt;br&gt; transactions. I could check. &lt;br&gt; Jack des Bouillons
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Pat Bensky</name>
  <email>pben...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T09:48:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/81cadbc9cfd9eaee?show_docid=81cadbc9cfd9eaee</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/81cadbc9cfd9eaee?show_docid=81cadbc9cfd9eaee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  Jack, &lt;br&gt; What else is in the Extras folder (things that are supposed to be there and &lt;br&gt; are not invisible)? &lt;br&gt; Pat &lt;br&gt; 2008/6/13 Jack des Bouillons &amp;lt;jack.desbouill...@hobbsherder .com&amp;gt;:
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Dancy</name>
  <email>david.da...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T05:14:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/8a29f6cf85dec1fe?show_docid=8a29f6cf85dec1fe</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/8a29f6cf85dec1fe?show_docid=8a29f6cf85dec1fe"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  Jack &lt;br&gt; Could they be temporary files created by the client to record activity &lt;br&gt; in transactions? &lt;br&gt; David
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jack des Bouillons</name>
  <email>jack.desbouill...@hobbsherder.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-13T00:33:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/35127458d4e16bc4?show_docid=35127458d4e16bc4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/35127458d4e16bc4?show_docid=35127458d4e16bc4"/>
  <title type="text">Invisible Records in Extras Folder</title>
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  We have a standalone application that works in conjunction with our server &lt;br&gt; running on a G5 Mac 10.4.6... &lt;br&gt; Recently, we had occasion to move the folder containing this app to a new &lt;br&gt; drive...the process took over 3 hours! &lt;br&gt; Because... &lt;br&gt; It turned out there were over FIVE (5) million invisible files residing in
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Pat Bensky</name>
  <email>pben...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-12T23:13:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/28b90c3644cf87d3/3088705921206b77?show_docid=3088705921206b77</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/28b90c3644cf87d3/3088705921206b77?show_docid=3088705921206b77"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Stable 4d 2004 release</title>
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  The latest ... 2004.7. &lt;br&gt; PB &lt;br&gt; 2008/6/12 WBarstad &amp;lt;wbars...@miqs.com&amp;gt;:
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Doug Cottrill</name>
  <email>ptmsoftw...@earthlink.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-12T20:33:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/f2e4fcaa8e999bff?show_docid=f2e4fcaa8e999bff</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/f2e4fcaa8e999bff?show_docid=f2e4fcaa8e999bff"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Most stable 2004 version</title>
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  I&#39;ve been very happy with 2004.6r2 and have seen no reason to go &lt;br&gt; to the latest 2004.7r3 release, but others have reported it as very &lt;br&gt; good as well. Others may chime in, and you might ask this on the &lt;br&gt; official tech list as well. &lt;br&gt; List-Subscribe: &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;https://lists.4d.com/mailman/listinfo/4d_tech&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;mailto:4d_tech-requ...@lists. 4d.com?subject=subscribe&amp;gt;
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>WBarstad</name>
  <email>wbars...@miqs.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-12T19:30:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/28b90c3644cf87d3/59b2d52c4a187034?show_docid=59b2d52c4a187034</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/28b90c3644cf87d3/59b2d52c4a187034?show_docid=59b2d52c4a187034"/>
  <title type="text">Stable 4d 2004 release</title>
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  We are upgrading our app from 4d v6 to 4d 2004. In your opinion, &lt;br&gt; which is the most stable release of 4d 2004? thanks in advance. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards, &lt;br&gt; Wm Barstad
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>WBarstad</name>
  <email>wbars...@miqs.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-06-12T18:27:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/a59c8b4f3a23bba5?show_docid=a59c8b4f3a23bba5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/4D-Tech/browse_thread/thread/01913ed10b7eef7d/a59c8b4f3a23bba5?show_docid=a59c8b4f3a23bba5"/>
  <title type="text">Most stable 2004 version</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I am relatively new to 4D. We have an app written in 4D v6 and are &lt;br&gt; planning on upgrading to 2004 before upgrading completely to v11. My &lt;br&gt; question is, which release of 2004 do you consider to be the most &lt;br&gt; stable? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance for your response. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards, &lt;br&gt; Wm. Barstad
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