Help me make a quick custom newspaper every morning.

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benrodian

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Sep 20, 2006, 8:36:43 PM9/20/06
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Setup: OS X Tiger, laser printer, lots of cheap recycled paper

Me: I have serious difficulty paying attention in university classes
but I have three 3-hour lectures back-to-back. I'm going to need some
browsing material to make class time bearable.

The ideal solution: every weekday morning at 6am, my Mac goes online
and grabs the full text (Not just the headlines like in a newsreader,
but the whole text of the article) of enough RSS articles to fill (say)
ten printed pages with small text. All this text gets dumped to a PDF,
and I print and staple it before I head out the door. Then I can sit
in class with a stack of paper that looks like photocopies but is
actually BBC News, NYT front page articles, etc.

Any ideas? Apologies if this is a simple question, I couldn't find
anything satisfactory on Google.

TIA!

beelers

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Sep 20, 2006, 8:40:59 PM9/20/06
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I don't have an answer but as a news junkie I'm anxious to see one.
What a cool idea!


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Karen Parry

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Sep 20, 2006, 9:00:02 PM9/20/06
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I don't know for sure but you might be able to do something like this
if webstractor is scriptable...
http://www.softchaos.com/

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Eric Sinclair

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Sep 20, 2006, 10:38:21 PM9/20/06
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Something to investigate (though probably not as customizable as you
want) is the Guardian's "24" service. Up to date print to pdf:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g24

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Mike Brown

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Sep 21, 2006, 6:37:25 AM9/21/06
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For web pages, you could try http://www.quickbrowse.com/, but you have to pay for a subscription and I don't know that it captures RSS feeds.

dark...@gmail.com

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Sep 21, 2006, 9:05:48 AM9/21/06
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Well, you might be able to do something similar with Automator or
Applescript, but I'm not aware of any actions for checking RSS feeds
and following their links (NetNewsWire comes with a few actions, but
none of them are all that useful). One possibility would be the BBC's
email service, which I understand is free and full text (but don't
quote me on that), and you would be able to use Automator to set that
up (Get new mail -> Filter mail items (messages containing 'BBC' or
whatever) -> Combine Mail messages -> New Textedit document -> Print
Finder Items should do it).

>From there, you could save the workflow as an application or an iCal
plugin and run it from iCal at six or six fifteen every morning.
Schedule your mac to wake up at six every morning (Schedule button in
Energy Saver) and you should be all set.

Just one comment - if you're not using a laptop it might be easier to
set your account to have auto-login. This is a security issue if your
mac gets half-inched, but bear in mind that if you don't have it set up
and your mac starts from a cold boot it won't login for you and the
workflow won't run.

eth1

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Sep 21, 2006, 10:54:05 AM9/21/06
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I've put a bit of energy into developing a similar system to this for
downloading news to my palm. At first I used NewsMac which was able to
export RSS feeds to iSilo format with recursion, so you could download
the pages the linked to as well as the rss descriptions. When
NewsMacPro broke this for me (though I think this was more my set up
than NewMacPro) I checked out NetNewsWire and used its Applescript
support to construct flat HTML pages of each feed which I then could
use wget or iSilo to grab with recursion to include the pages. One
issue with this, however, is that it's tough to follow "Nex Page" and
">>" links for stories broken up into multiple pages. I've lately been
going through my favorite feeds in the morning, following all stories
that looked interesting, going to the print view and then bookmarking
that in del.icio.us with the same tag. I can then use my favorite
aggregator/offline view (be in iSilo, Plucker or my homerolled
NetNewsWire script) to grab the feed for that tag (@read+!next).

Phil Wolff

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Sep 21, 2006, 3:28:25 PM9/21/06
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Back in the Pointcast era I had some utility, from HP I think, that did this. The feature i loved was it worked on a schedule. It updated overnight and started printing at 6am so I had stuff ready to read when I woke up. I kept adding feeds until I exceded the pages in the printer's bin.

If your software keeps your focus tight, the volume right, and the formatting elegant, you're on your way.

friedbeef

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Sep 22, 2006, 4:10:48 AM9/22/06
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Don't have a solution for the mac, but if anyone using Windows wants to
do the same, you can use RSS popper and get feeds directly into your
Outlook inbox. From there, just select all the emails and print em out
at one go.

http://www.rsspopper.com/

Free of course

speedo

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Sep 22, 2006, 1:08:29 PM9/22/06
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I use newspipe, it's written in python and does the same thing, scans
your rss feeds and emails you the new stories.

http://newspipe.sourceforge.net/

As an aside, why are you even going to the lectures if you're not
interested in listening to the prof, seems like a waste of money to me
;)

Eugene Liedel

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Sep 22, 2006, 5:07:06 PM9/22/06
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Isn't this what they have been telling us computers could do, and would be great for, for many years ?


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benrodian

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Sep 22, 2006, 6:03:48 PM9/22/06
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I knew someone was going to ask this. The fact is that I can't pay
attention to anything for 3 solid hours (not TV, not a movie, nothing),
even something I'm interested in. If I can give myself two 5-minute
in-class newspaper breaks, I'll be able to pay attention better for the
other 170 minutes. Without the newspaper, I'm going to be paying
partial attention for 180 minutes.

School is definitely going to cost me a lot, so I'm trying to do as
much as I can to work around my attention problems so I can get my
money's worth.

Thanks for the newspipe suggestion, it sounds good.

benrodian

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Sep 22, 2006, 6:05:37 PM9/22/06
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Thanks for the suggestion. It's not automatic, but it's already a PDF
so it will be easy for me to print while I make breakfast.

Sam Beaven

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Sep 22, 2006, 6:23:00 PM9/22/06
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You might still be able to automate that: it looks like the Guardian
stories are just a PDF that gets updated regularly, but it's always
at the same URL - you could get Automator to download that PDF at a
set time every morning and then print it out.

TB

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Sep 23, 2006, 4:23:23 PM9/23/06
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You need the information presented in lectures; it may not be available
in the assigned textbook or secondary sources. Also, you may learn
enough to get by understanding the concepts at the level presented in
class, whereas, if you function on assigned reading alone, you may not
have enough time to cover it all, and you won't recognize what you
nodded off during in class.

I'd advise you to:
1) write down everything on the board and capture all keywords
2) buy an use a digital voice recorder for lectures and write down in
your notes the times you nod off or don;t get things, so you can review
the audio later.

The spoken word makes me scattered and squirmy, too. But it's important
to develop habits of sustained attention or seek help if this continues
to be a problem.

Sarah Wiebenson

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Sep 26, 2006, 4:16:58 PM9/26/06
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I have trouble focusing in lectures sometimes as well, so I like to bring simple knitting projects to class with me. I find that if I keep my hands busy, my mind won't get as distracted. And in a couple of weeks, I'll have a brand new scarf.

BlackFin

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Sep 27, 2006, 12:59:04 PM9/27/06
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'ello, world.

Sarah Wiebenson wrote:
> I have trouble focusing in lectures sometimes as well, so I like to bring
> simple knitting projects to class with me. I find that if I keep my hands
> busy, my mind won't get as distracted. And in a couple of weeks, I'll have a
> brand new scarf.

Something like that happened to me: I couldn't pay attention unless my
hands were busy.
A professor suggested that I should...
"pay attention and take notes, (...) student!"

>
> On 9/22/06, benrodian <brn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >

> > (snip) If I can give myself two 5-minute


> > in-class newspaper breaks, I'll be able to pay attention better for the
> > other 170 minutes. Without the newspaper, I'm going to be paying
> > partial attention for 180 minutes.

I guess that's a bit dangerous. During a stint in Law, mi mind drifted
away through a lecture. When I realized I was daydreaming for like 2
minutes, the core of the subject had been dissected, and I lost it!

> > speedo wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > As an aside, why are you even going to the lectures if you're not
> > > interested in listening to the prof, seems like a waste of money to me
> > > ;)

All kiding aside, I suggest taping the lecture, and listening to it
(and maybe process it) in chunks of 5 or 10 minutes. too bad i
couldn´t do it during Law classes. the professors cited "the right to
one's voice". in short, I souldn't tape them if they didn't want to.

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graeme.lyall

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Sep 27, 2006, 4:35:05 PM9/27/06
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My answer to this has been, for a number of years, to bring a Cambridge Z88
computer to the lecture or conference. I am not a student but I have had to
attend a lot events where 50% of my attention was probably overstating the
required amount. I would not feel able to use a full sized laptop but these
little machines (which are antiques these days) are great - you can read
files, write other notes, do all kinds of stuff, in fact be twice as
productive as you would be otherwise.

speedo

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Sep 28, 2006, 11:14:17 AM9/28/06
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Many have mentioned recording lectures, I have to assume at least
someone is using an ipod+mic, I've thought about doing this in the past
but I only have a mini (doesn't support a mic) and couldn't decide if
that added feature was worth the money for an upgrade to one that
supports recording. Is anyone using their ipod to record lectures or
meetings, and if so how do you manage the recordings?

beelers

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Sep 28, 2006, 11:20:14 AM9/28/06
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As a newspaper reporter I love my Olympus DM-10 digital voice recorder. It cost $120 (about 3 years ago) and came with (admittedly bad) software that allows playback and bookmarks. I hit the "index" button during meetings when agenda points change and it marks it in the software. Better than tape in that you don't have to play the rw/ff game with a cassette and it records more than 4 hours of audio at high quality.
 
So my vote is for a dedicated digital voice recorder. There are other brands and they come at every price point from about $10 for cheap (and I mean cheap with all the negative connotations) all they way up to $300 or more (depending on what you need).

 

BlackFin

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Sep 29, 2006, 11:14:25 AM9/29/06
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Speedo: in MAKE: magazine, ther have an ipod Shuffle to record
interviews, maybe you shouls check it out. (found it through
del.icio.us and lifehacker.com)

BlackFin

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Sep 29, 2006, 11:16:54 AM9/29/06
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beelers: if you can get your DVR to transcribe your recordings (via
software), that'd be wonderful; the main reason i'd buy one of those.
(my writing output might be augmented! who knows?)

beelers

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Sep 29, 2006, 6:25:44 PM9/29/06
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Unfortunately, I don't have that capability so I'm stuck
transcribing. The indexing feature helps me separate the wheat from
the chaff though.


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rickla

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Sep 30, 2006, 5:45:25 AM9/30/06
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How many minutes/hours would one of the bigger iPods record? Are there
any other advantages to a dedicated recorder?

beelers

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Sep 30, 2006, 10:11:25 AM9/30/06
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Well, it's kind of like trying to hammer a nail with a skillet (or
cook an egg with a hammer). Using the right tools for the job just
seems to make sense to me. Sure, you *can* record on an iPod, but
that's just seems like a gimmick to me. [Disclaimer: I have never
used an iPod to record, so I really don't know what I'm talking about
here.]

What I do know is that there is a glut of trying to shoehorn
everything into tiny little devices. This isn't necessarily a bad
thing. Combining your Palm and your cell phone "makes sense." Putting
iTunes on a cell phone? Not so much.

That was kind of rambling and I'm not even sure it's an appropriate
response, but there you go.


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rickla

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Oct 1, 2006, 7:33:44 PM10/1/06
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Not at all inappropriate, and I'm all for rambling responses, which
give all kinds of information not too narrowly focused on the specific
questions asked, and can often be even more useful.

I tend to agree with you that convergence is often misguided. My
specific situation, though, is that I have a 60-gig iPod photo (whose
main use is as a presentation device in place of a laptop). The
addition of a cheap mic could turn that into a recording device. I
don't know how good it would be, though. And I've never tried one of
those dedicated voice recorders, so I don't know what I'm missing. The
indexing feature does sound very useful. Is there anything similar for
the iPod?

David Douthitt

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Oct 2, 2006, 1:58:56 PM10/2/06
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rickla wrote:
> I tend to agree with you that convergence is often misguided. My
> specific situation, though, is that I have a 60-gig iPod photo (whose
> main use is as a presentation device in place of a laptop). The
> addition of a cheap mic could turn that into a recording device. I
> don't know how good it would be, though. And I've never tried one of
> those dedicated voice recorders, so I don't know what I'm missing.

My biggest problem with most dedicated recorders is they don't support
any standard formats (like MP3). The iPod fails in this regard, also.

There are MP3 players with voice record; I had one and it worked
rather well.

The iMic connected to a laptop also worked well, but was less portable.

Steve Holden

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Oct 2, 2006, 5:04:24 PM10/2/06
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I was just at the Podcast and Portable Media Conference & Expo 2006 a lot of podcasters are using some of the newer microphone attachments with their iPods.

I use an iRiver IFP-799 (almost two years old) and I'm pretty happy with its recording capabilities.

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Sarah Wiebenson

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Oct 7, 2006, 3:45:00 PM10/7/06
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Is it possible to record with the iMic when the laptop is closed, or does it need to be open?

David Douthitt

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Oct 9, 2006, 5:47:29 PM10/9/06
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Sarah Wiebenson wrote:
> Is it possible to record with the iMic when the laptop is closed, or
> does it need to be open?

The iBook would have to be open. The iMic, for all the fancy
trimmings and the company behind it, is just your basic lapel mike:
the computer recognizes it and uses it as any other input device, but
when the iBook is closed it stops operating.

I have seen kernel modifications that would allow you to run the iBook
when closed, but there are heating issues.

As I recall, it was a complete Darwin kernel replacement - might've
been part of setting up a iBook for running servers or for wardriving
- I can't remember.

BlackFin

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Oct 10, 2006, 6:35:09 PM10/10/06
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maybe InsomniaX for mac can help.
more:
http://lifehacker.com/software/laptop/download-of-the-day-insomniax-mac-204279.php

/not a mac user

Ozan Ozkusaksiz

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Nov 1, 2006, 1:02:09 PM11/1/06
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i agree with the iriver solution, you can buy one of the older models cheap and use them for voice recording. Sound quality is cool and they encode mp3s directly, that means lots of recording time. I've been using an old 128mb model (ifp-380t) for recording but i don't record long stuff. I remember that it has 4 hours of recording capacity but i'm not sure.
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