flexible pocket pen?

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Mat

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Aug 14, 2008, 4:03:21 AM8/14/08
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i use my hip pocket wallet as a holder for my gtd paper (basically a
'next action' printout from my monkeyGTD system) and I want to store a
pen in the spine of the wallet... but it would obviously have to be
both good and flexible. i've searched the web a lot but not found
anything decent. any suggestions?

sincerest thanks!

Mat

Bryan Ewbank

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Aug 14, 2008, 6:52:44 AM8/14/08
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I have been happy with a compact Fisher Space Pen Stowaway; I've
carried it in my wallet for about a year. I found it at REI.com:

http://www.rei.com/product/701171
# Pressurized ink cartridge allows pen to write at any angle--even
upside down
# Small, compact design fits almost anywhere; measures 3.75 inches
and weighs less than 0.2 ounces
# Black ink; medium point

Hope this helps,
-Bryan E

Tom Shannon

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Aug 14, 2008, 12:49:57 PM8/14/08
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Its not flexible but I've found the Fisher Space pen (the bullet
model) to be ideal for this kind of think. I have a little slot in my
wallet for mine but you can carry it in your front of back pocket.
Its practically indestructible.

I think I order mine from The Writer's Edge but you can find them at
Office Max or Staples.

Tom S.

Mat

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Aug 14, 2008, 7:51:23 PM8/14/08
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Thanks guys - but I must ask; would your suggestions actually be
suitable for a back pocket wallet? As far as I can tell, the only
place that makes sense to store a pen in a wallet is along it's inside
spine, particularly since what I write on is inside the wallet (i.e I
open it like a book to see my gtd lists etc and the pen is right there
also). But the problem is thus that a stiff pen makes the whole wallet
unbendable and thus it's very uncomfortable to sit down. A flexible
pen would solve this, but it woudl also have to be a well functioning
one of course.

Other than stupid toys, I've found this;

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Promotional-pen/p/bg/1003714354.htm

..but I don't know about it's quality (it's a promo item, so I doubt
it's decent) and also I don't know where to buy it as a private person
(and on-line as I live in Sweden).

I really appreciate your input! Thank you !

/Mat


On 14 Aug, 18:49, Tom Shannon <tsha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its not flexible but I've found the Fisher Space pen (the bullet
> model) to be ideal for this kind of think. I have a little slot in my
> wallet for mine but you can carry it in your front of back pocket.
> Its practically indestructible.
>
> I think I order mine from The Writer's Edge but you can find them at
> Office Max or Staples.
>
> Tom S.
>

Bryan Ewbank

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Aug 14, 2008, 8:49:54 PM8/14/08
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My kids have used that flexible pen a time or two, but they fell apart
rather quickly (perhaps kids are harder on pens than your back
pocket?). Since the Fisher pen is very short, I don't think you'll
have problems because the wallet can flex around the pen.

--Bryan

Bryan Ewbank

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Aug 14, 2008, 8:50:52 PM8/14/08
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I should have said "... but the pens fell apart ..." - my kids are
doing fine ("they" wasn't clear in the sentence :)

Mat

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Aug 15, 2008, 4:17:18 AM8/15/08
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On Aug 15, 2:50 am, "Bryan Ewbank" <ewb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should have said "... but the pens fell apart ..." - my kids are
> doing fine ("they" wasn't clear in the sentence :)

HA! That really made me chuckle :-D (...not in a sadistic way,
though)

Anyway; the Fisher pens - do they *bend* at all? There are many pens
that can take rough handling, but I'm specifically in need for
someting that is flexible as in *bendable*, and also good to write
with.

Actually, ideally also with a clip that ends near the very top of the
pen or cap, so that when inserted into the wallet, it doesn't protrude
a centimeter or half and inch. but bendable is a main feature I'm
looking for, so how do Fisher match this?

(Sorry for repeating my question, but it looks like the suggestions
given so far really are not flexible as in bendable.)

Mat

Tom Shannon

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Aug 15, 2008, 11:18:46 AM8/15/08
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The best solution for this, IMO, is to buy a wallet with a slot for
the pen. These can be found on the Internet, at least, including at
the aformentioned Writer's Edge site.

Most of these wallets need a pen which folds up, collapses or somehow
ends up relatively small. That allows you to put it along the fold in
a typical bifold wallet, something that is much more comfortable. The
pen has to be tough which makes the Fisher bullet pen that I mentioned
ideal.

Tom S.

TjL

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Aug 15, 2008, 9:33:36 PM8/15/08
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Just to add another twist to the mix: sitting on your wallet, long
term, is supposedly bad for your back, because your, um "cheeks" are
uneven.

So put your wallet in a front pocket ;-)

TjL

Eugene Liedel

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Aug 16, 2008, 7:00:34 AM8/16/08
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I've been carying a space pen in my back pocket since 2005, since I first joined this group. with no issues, moleskine and wallet in front pocket.

Tom Shannon

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Aug 16, 2008, 9:32:02 AM8/16/08
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No worries. I carry a calculator in the other pocket to balance it
out. The only problem is that it makes my butt look big... ;)

Tom S.
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J-Mac

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Aug 16, 2008, 1:49:06 PM8/16/08
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Mat,

You should at least try a Fisher Bullet pen - just one. I am pretty
sure that it will meet your needs. I have a few - some have a lifetime
guaranty on ink, though those are expensive.

Try [url=http://www.cyberspacepens.com/pens/Fisher-Space-Pens/Bullet-
Pens.html]CyberspacePens[/url] . I've bought a few there - very good
prices.

Jim

J-Mac

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Aug 16, 2008, 1:50:43 PM8/16/08
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Hmm - Groups don't use BBCode, apparently! Let me try that again, just
the URL this time:

http://www.cyberspacepens.com/pens/Fisher-Space-Pens/Bullet-Pens.html

Jim

BigNosed UglyGuy

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Aug 17, 2008, 4:00:40 AM8/17/08
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For supposedly read actually - in my case, at least.  During my morning and evening car commute, I now remove my wallet and place it in the instrument binnacle to avoid any chance of sitting crooked; I also consciously 'square' up my hips to the seat back.  Since doing these things, I have almost completely banished the back aches I used to suffer in the car.

bnug

2008/8/16 TjL <luo...@gmail.com>

PeterG

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Aug 18, 2008, 7:39:57 AM8/18/08
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...sounds like a good plan as long as you remember to pick up your
wallet (and your pen?) when you get out of the car!

On Aug 17, 6:00 pm, "BigNosed UglyGuy" <bignosedugly...@gmail.com>
wrote:

BigNosed UglyGuy

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Aug 19, 2008, 2:37:20 AM8/19/08
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Peter

I do 99% of the time - and for the other 1%, I sprint back to the car the minute I remember!
:-)
bnug

2008/8/18 PeterG <pmg...@gmail.com>

Mat

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Aug 19, 2008, 7:30:57 PM8/19/08
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I appreciate everyones answer and the kind concerns about avoiding
back problems.

Regarding the recommended Fisher pens, are you guys saying it doesn't
need to be flexible because it is *small*? - or just exactly *how* do
you mean that it will not be a problem when it is inside the wallet
that itself bends around the... gluteus maximus? Slots in wallet or
not.

Regarding the back problems; yeah, what you say is absolutely correct
in my experience!

Again, thanks for your kind answers!

/Mat

Evan Edwards

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Aug 19, 2008, 8:25:27 PM8/19/08
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On Tuesday 19 August 2008, Mat wrote:
> Regarding the recommended Fisher pens, are you guys saying it doesn't
> need to be flexible because it is *small*? -

Yes... small and *very* durable. It collapses to about 3.7 inches and
expands into a very solid full size pen. That means it is about the same
width of the short edge of a pocket Moleskine. Pretty durn small.

People say "Space Pen" sometimes, but that's actually referring to the
pressurized ink cartridge technology, which also comes in non collapsible
models. What most people mean (around here) when they say "Space Pen" is the
Bullet Space Pen:

http://www.fisherspacepenstore.com/bullet.aspx

Other Space Pen lines include:

http://www.fisherspacepenstore.com/fisherspacepen.aspx

And of course, it was not developed by NASA, nor did it cost a particularly
large amount to develop:

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_pen


--
Evan "JabberWokky" Edwards
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615.686.9538

Tom Shannon

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Aug 20, 2008, 11:05:09 AM8/20/08
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Mat <matia...@gmail.com> writes:

> Regarding the recommended Fisher pens, are you guys saying it doesn't
> need to be flexible because it is *small*? - or just exactly *how* do
> you mean that it will not be a problem when it is inside the wallet
> that itself bends around the... gluteus maximus? Slots in wallet or
> not.

The pen fits along the crease in a bi-fold wallet. Most people put
their wallet in their back pocket with the fold facing downward and
with the actual crease at the top. That crease is high enough in the
pocket to where you generally aren't sitting directly on it.

Tom S.

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