Model selection
RolandoP
of my models to the 3D building layer on GE, and even though my model
is way better then the current one, the staff from Google refused to
agree. Just so that you have an idea, here are the links to a picture
of the real building, my model and the current one:
Picture: http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/niemeyer1.jpg
My model: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4df54958a30ae0c24ad6a0c67b7f7a5b
Current model: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=450103178ca870ae2dda0e138b24f38d&prevstart=0
I have other models that have been rejected as they believe a better
model exists, and although I disagree, it is a matter of taste.
However, I can't see how anyone would think the current model is
better than mine. The structure is totally distorted, it is just
weird. I don't know why, but his concrete textures are transparent
(really awful!) and there is no terrain, so that part of the building
floats above the ground.
If someone could tell me why do they consider the current model better
than mine, I would appreciate, as I can't think of anywhere to improve
my model in order to make it better then the current one!
Thanks a lot!
RolandoP
Josh H
to pick buildings. I don't know if you can appeal the decision and
get someone to actually look at it. Of course the best bet is to
model areas that don't have existing models! Then your is always the
best.
RolandoP
I've already appealed for this model giving all the justifications as
above, but someone from their office e-mailed me stating that ''the
decision is final'', and therefore i shouldn't appeal for this model
again.
I believe is Google's interest to have the best models on GE, but they
seem not to care at all, and this is very frustrating for us, the 3D
modellers. I thought about deleting all of my buildings,so angry I was
with them!
It is really disrespectful to state that the current model is better
if they had actually seen a picture of the real building. It is like
saying that the work we've done to make the model the best as we can
was not worth it.
Thanks for you comment!
Helen
further editting. Is this locking of the model on by default with Sketchup?
If not, how do I lock my models before uploading?
Helen
SketchUp Guide Allison
The model selection process involves humans, not algorithms. However,
as noted here:
http://groups.google.com/group/3dwh/browse_thread/thread/a0709b0f0b3fd7b0
it is often necessary to create a model that is obviously better than
the existing model in order for it to be accepted. (Go to Google
Earth and zoom out for a couple of good-sized city blocks. Then ask
yourself if there's a clear difference between the models. This is
effectively what the reviewers are going to have available to them.
In cases where there's no obvious winner at that resolution, the
reviewers will tend to select the earlier model to reduce problems
with people copying others' models and resubmitting them as their
own.)
It looks like you're working in the same region of the world as
another of our users. For cases like this, we suggest contacting the
owner of the other model and asking if he or she would like to
collaborate to improve the live models.
-- Allison
SketchUp Guide Allison
It's not completely clear what you're trying to do, but let me suggest
a few things:
If it's possible for you to download the model, you should be able to
edit it. (Your browser may have a default configuration that saves
files in read-only mode; in this case you should be able to save the
model as a new filename from inside SketchUp to get around this.)
However, the default sharing settings for models in the 3D Warehouse
prevent anyone but the original owner of the model from re-uploading
an edit to the model in the warehouse. You can change this via the
Share link. If the "Make this model publicly editable" box is
checked, other people can upload edits to your model.
If instead what you would like to do is make it so that others cannot
download your model at all, you can change this via the Share link as
well. Check the "Only the owner and collaborators may download this
model" box to keep other people from downloading your model.
-- Allison
Helen
Yes, I think what I'm worried about is people re-editting my model and
claiming it as their own.
So if it's by default not possible to do that then I'm happy.
Often when I download a model from the 3DWH I get a message saying it is
locked by another user and asks if I wish to open it as a read-only file.
That's what I want to know about. I'm happy for people to download my models
but I don't them to be editable so I guess my question is how do I make them
read-only?
Thanks,
Helen
Hi Helen,
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RolandoP
current one. This is a >>3D<< Warehouse, and the reviwers should
analyse the model from all directions, and if this is actually done,
there is no doubt they would select my model. The current one is
really awful, it does not resemble the actual building, as I showed in
here:
Picture: http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/niemeyer1.jpg
My model: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4df54958a30ae0c24a...
Current model: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=450103178ca870ae2d...
On Jan 5, 5:30 pm, SketchUp Guide Allison <allisonfloyd
+...@google.com> wrote:
> Hi Rolando,
>
> The model selection process involves humans, not algorithms. However,
> as noted here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/3dwh/browse_thread/thread/a0709b0f0b3f...
catamountain
The file may come in as a read-only because it is saved to a temporary
directory and came into your computer from an outside source. But
that does not stop you or anybody from opening the file and
manipulating the model. No one can save the read-only file, but Save
As can be done. The model also can be copy/pasted into another file
too.
The models you download can be edited. Double-click to open the
component or group wrapper(s). The geometry inside can be edited.
Helen
>@ Helen, you should have started a new thread about your topic.
I did, I called it Model Locking. I don't know whow we ended up on this
thread but anyway, thank you for your answer.
Helen
SketchUp Guide Allison
If you've already tried appealing the review and gotten a negative
response, you've hit the end of the road; there's no Appeals Appeal,
they all go to the same place. The appeals reviewer does have full
access to the model, and will look at it from all directions.
(Actually, all reviewers will look at the model from all directions --
the problem is one of resolution and review time available, not 3D
versus 2D.) However, as I tried to explain in the referenced post,
there's a technical problem with duplicate reviews: they're not
permanent. Duplicate review gets triggered by lots of different
events, many of them out of your direct control. If your model is not
clearly, obviously better than the one that's already live *from a
distance* -- and if you are thinking it's already obvious, then you
haven't backed up far enough -- even if you convince the appeals
reviewer that your model is better, the judgment is unlikely to
"stick". A successful appeals example: Damo's excellent model of the
Eiffel Tower (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?
mid=3c736aa28b4329a54c7544145ac6119d) was accepted over the model that
was previously live (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?
mid=39107e433aab78376c881bd365c4ccd4).
If you find yourself in a model competition with another user, and
you've exhausted your appeals, here's what you can do:
1) Try collaborating with, instead of competing with, the other user.
2) Model something that doesn't already have a live version.
3) Place a Google Earth API window (http://code.google.com/apis/
earth/) on your own website, referencing all of your models instead of
the live ones. (This is a useful way to place all kinds of custom
content that can't be used in the live 3D buildings layer, and you
have the benefit that your models don't undergo geometric or texture
compression.)
-- Allison
SketchUp Guide Allison
It looks like you hit "reply" on a message thread and then just edited
the subject. There's a separate "post your question" link over on the
right-hand side of the window.
If you don't want people editing your models, then the only option you
have is to prevent them from being downloaded in the first place. Use
the instructions provided above for that.
-- Allison