Obama campaign breaks fund-raising record --> We the people are out spending the billionaires.

[Big Steel]

<http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-campaign-breaks-fund-raising-record/?hpt=po_c2>

[philo]

On 10/05/2012 07:40 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> <http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-campaign-breaks-fund-raising-record/?hpt=po_c2>
>




Look here also

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobless-rate-falls-7-123110106.html

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[Big Steel]

On 10/5/2012 9:52 AM, philo wrote:
> On 10/05/2012 07:40 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>> <http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-campaign-breaks-fund-raising-record/?hpt=po_c2>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Look here also
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-jobless-rate-falls-7-123110106.html
>

It's nothing but bad news for Romedy and the Republicans with 30 some
days left before the election. It's not what they want to see.

[philo]

Yep


I see you already had posted that info though but what the heck , I
repeated it.

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[Big Steel]

It's kind of funny. The Repubs in an alternate universe are saying the
numbers are not right and the timing of it suspect. It's a fix.

[philo]

On 10/05/2012 12:14 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 10/5/2012 10:16 AM, philo wrote:

>> On 10/05/20ews for Romedy and the Republicans with 30 some

>>> days left before the election. It's not what they want to see.
>>
>>
>> Yep
>>
>>
>> I see you already had posted that info though but what the heck , I
>> repeated it.
>>
>
> It's kind of funny. The Repubs in an alternate universe are saying the
> numbers are not right and the timing of it suspect. It's a fix.

Well I just got my investment statement today.

Under Bush they went down 40%.

Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!

Truth is, he has done a lot better job than I had expected.


Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the
debate

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8


No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying


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[telsar]

Last election he raised over 1 billion, which was a major record. The
most ever raised in history. He has been ontrack to surpass this for
this election.

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[Big Steel]

Yeah I read about that. Do you have another video, because the link
video doesn't work?

[philo]

On 10/05/2012 03:20 PM, telsar wrote:
> On 10/5/2012 3:11 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 10/05/2012 12:14 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2012 10:16 AM, philo wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/20ews for Romedy and the Republicans with 30 some
>>>>> days left before the election. It's not what they want to see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see you already had posted that info though but what the heck , I
>>>> repeated it.
>>>>
>>>

<snip>

>>
>> Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the debate
>>
>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
>>
>>
>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>>
>>
> Last election he raised over 1 billion, which was a major record. The
> most ever raised in history. He has been ontrack to surpass this for
> this election.
>

I did some research and the "cheat notes" report may have been erroneous.
Supposedly it was just a handkerchief he put on the podium.
He might have needed it to wipe his butt, who knows?

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[Buffalo]

Why shouldn't they be able to use cheat sheets, ipods, etc while debating?
Curious.
They cover so much ground and need to be fairly accurate on so many numbers
and stats, that it would seem a necessity.
Buffalo

[philo]

On 10/05/2012 03:22 PM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 10/5/2012 4:11 PM, philo wrote:
>> On 10/05/2012 12:14 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2012 10:16 AM, philo wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/20ews for Romedy and the Republicans with 30 some
>>>>> days left before the election. It's not what they want to see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see you already had posted that info though but what the heck , I
>>>> repeated it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's kind of funny. The Repubs in an alternate universe are saying the
>>> numbers are not right and the timing of it suspect. It's a fix.
>>
>>
>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>

>> Under Bush thX

>>
>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>>
>>
>
> Yeah I read about that. Do you have another video, because the link
> video doesn't work?
>
>

It was just him putting a handkerchief on the podium.
I guess I fell for the hype

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/10/05/you-be-the-judge-did-mitt-cheat.html

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[philo]

On 10/05/2012 03:41 PM, Buffalo wrote:
> philo wrote:
>> On 10/05/2012 03:20 PM, telsar wrote:
>>> On 10/5/2012 3:11 PM, philo wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2012 12:14 PM, Big Steel wrote:
>>>>> On 10/5/2012 10:16 AM, philo wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/05/20ews for Romedy and the Republicans with 30 some
>>>>>>> days left before the election. It's not what they want to see.
>>>>>>
>>>>

>>>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Last election he raised over 1 billion, which was a major record.
>>> The most ever raised in history. He has been ontrack to surpass
>>> this for this election.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I did some research and the "cheat notes" report may have been
>> erroneous. Supposedly it was just a handkerchief he put on the podium.
>> He might have needed it to wipe his butt, who knows?
>
> Why shouldn't they be able to use cheat sheets, ipods, etc while debating?
> Curious.
> They cover so much ground and need to be fairly accurate on so many numbers
> and stats, that it would seem a necessity.
> Buffalo
>
>

I could care less if they use notes but rules are rules.
Anyway it looks like I jumped the gun on my accusation.

I firmly believe there should be judges with fact checkers though!


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[Big Steel]

Jeopardy's Watson!
>

[Buffalo]

There you go. It would be great to see the fact checkers do it in real time
and 'correct' the candidates in real time.
Then those pricks wouldn't exaggerate (lie) so much.
Buffalo

[telsar]

True, but they spin everything...including the form of the debate.

[kara...@irchiver.com]

And how much did he steal?

kara...@irchiver.com

[joevan]

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 13:51:42 -0700, kara...@irchiver.com wrote:

>And how much did he steal?
>
>kara...@irchiver.com

Another idiot to filter out. By by moron.

[83LowRider]

philo wrote:

> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>
> Under Bush they went down 40%.

Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%29.svg&page=1

> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!

What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back
IN SPITE of Obama.

> Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the
> debate
>
> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
>
>
> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying

Total and utter bullshit. It's a handkerchief.

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>
>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>
> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%29.svg&page=1
>
>
>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>
> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back
> IN SPITE of Obama.
>

In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make sure it would
not come back before the 2012 election.
They knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on a sinking
ship.
Does the "Party of NO" ring a bell?
Buffalo
PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.

[Big Steel]

It's just another form of a nym-shifting Turtle Head Fred and TJustice.
It's two of the same person, and this person is the same person. Look
man, there is no one new coming to Usenet. If you see someone that shows
all of a sudden, it's a nym-shift. It has nym-shifted and making
comments, because it doesn't like what it's seeing. :)

[Big Steel]

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:52:02 -0400, 83LowRider wrote:

> philo wrote:
>
>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>
>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>
> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%
> 29.svg&page=1
>
>

Couldn't find anything about philo's investments there. Can't you supply
a link that's all about him?

>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>
> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back IN SPITE of
> Obama.
>

LOL. Dream on.

>> Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the
>> debate
>>
>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?
> v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
>>
>>
>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>
> Total and utter bullshit. It's a handkerchief.

See philo's next post where he admits he was wrong and says what it
really was.

Fuck, zero for three. What's it like being a failure?

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socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>
>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>
> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%29.svg&page=1
>

If you looked at your graph, it hit the BIG low in early 2009 'before' Obama
could have done anything to affect it either way. That graph shows how steep
a dive the economy was in during W's last year in office. Did Obama cause
THAT? NO, the Republicans did.
You truely wear blinders and have selective memory loss.
Sad,
Buffalo

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

>>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>>
>>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>>
>> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>>
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%29.svg&page=1
>>
>>
>>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>>
>> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back
>> IN SPITE of Obama.
>>
> In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make sure it
> would not come back before the 2012 election.

> They knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on a
> sinking ship.

Sooo... you REALLY believe a political party, be it left or right,
controls the stock market? Can you actually back up what you
stated and tell us HOW or WHO tried to "keep the stock market down''?
Do not people from all parties have stock investment? Do all those
greedy right-wingers want to see their stocks flat? Do you even
consider what flies from your fingertips?

> Does the "Party of NO" ring a bell?

Republicans <many of the last election> have held firm to
their promise to not raise taxes or increase the debt.
I see that as a good thing. Or are you one that thinks anything
over a million is just one of those 'make-believe' numbers?

> Buffalo
> PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.

Horseshit.. memory has nothing to do with it. The chart for
the Dow Jones is there in black and white. Look at where stocks
were the absolute highest and then take a look at where and
when they fell to. Take a look at how they recovered post 9-11
and two wars -- then compare to the Obama years. "Selective
memory" my ass.

[83LowRider]

Aardvark wrote:

>>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>>
>> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%
>> 29.svg&page=1

> Couldn't find anything about philo's investments there. Can't you
> supply a link that's all about him?

If he cares to post his specific investments, then sure... we'll
see how he did comparing 2000-2008 to 2008-2012.

>>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>>
>> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back IN SPITE of
>> Obama.
>>
>
> LOL. Dream on.

No dreaming involved. It has taken SIX YEARS for stocks to
get back even close to where they were since Obama took office.
Is your argument with me or with the graph?

>>> Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the
>>> debate
>>>
>>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?
>>> v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
>>>
>>>
>>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>>
>> Total and utter bullshit. It's a handkerchief.
>
> See philo's next post where he admits he was wrong and says what it
> really was.
>
> Fuck, zero for three. What's it like being a failure?

Hmmm... I"d imagine it's kinda like having no fucking life
and spending every single fucking day bitching about the
likes of Boater Dave.... care to continue?

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

> If you looked at your graph, it hit the BIG low in early 2009
> 'before' Obama could have done anything to affect it either way. That
> graph shows how steep a dive the economy was in during W's last year
> in office. Did Obama cause THAT? NO, the Republicans did.
> You truely wear blinders and have selective memory loss.
> Sad,
> Buffalo

This is simple enough that with a little patience that even
you should be able to comprehend it.

1) At what point did the stock market hit its highest point ever?

2) At what point did the stock market reach the lowest point
in this graph of the last twelve years?

And republicans didn't have SHIT to do with the "steep dive".
That was all on the housing crash. Now if you want to find out
WHY the housing crash happened, take a look at Dodd and Frank.
Your attempt to rewrite history is pathetic at best.

[§ñühwö£f]

Dude, its a wingnut tradition.

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[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>>>> Well I just got my investment statement today.
>>>>
>>>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>>>
>>> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>>>
>>>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log%29.svg&page=1
>>>
>>>
>>>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>>>
>>> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back
>>> IN SPITE of Obama.
>>>
>> In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make sure it
>> would not come back before the 2012 election.
>
>> They knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on a
>> sinking ship.
>
> Sooo... you REALLY believe a political party, be it left or right,
> controls the stock market? Can you actually back up what you
> stated and tell us HOW or WHO tried to "keep the stock market down''?
> Do not people from all parties have stock investment? Do all those
> greedy right-wingers want to see their stocks flat? Do you even
> consider what flies from your fingertips?

I never said that they controlled the stock market.
Can you even read?

>
>> Does the "Party of NO" ring a bell?
>
> Republicans <many of the last election> have held firm to
> their promise to not raise taxes or increase the debt.

Not increase the debt? Are you totally blind?

> I see that as a good thing. Or are you one that thinks anything
> over a million is just one of those 'make-believe' numbers?
>
>> Buffalo
>> PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.
>
> Horseshit.. memory has nothing to do with it. The chart for
> the Dow Jones is there in black and white. Look at where stocks
> were the absolute highest and then take a look at where and
> when they fell to. Take a look at how they recovered post 9-11
> and two wars -- then compare to the Obama years. "Selective
> memory" my ass.

Your reading skills are lacking.

Buffalo

[Buffalo]

Says the biggesr wingnut of all to a newbie wingnut.

Buffalo

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>> If you looked at your graph, it hit the BIG low in early 2009
>> 'before' Obama could have done anything to affect it either way. That
>> graph shows how steep a dive the economy was in during W's last year
>> in office. Did Obama cause THAT? NO, the Republicans did.
>> You truely wear blinders and have selective memory loss.
>> Sad,
>> Buffalo
>
> This is simple enough that with a little patience that even
> you should be able to comprehend it.
>
> 1) At what point did the stock market hit its highest point ever?
>
> 2) At what point did the stock market reach the lowest point
> in this graph of the last twelve years?
>
> And republicans didn't have SHIT to do with the "steep dive".
> That was all on the housing crash.

You mean the housing crash that the Republicans knew was coming and did
nothing about when they had complete control? Yes, that's the one I am
talking about.
Have you had your head buried up your ass for the last 12 yrs or is that
about your age?

> Now if you want to find out
> WHY the housing crash happened, take a look at Dodd and Frank.
> Your attempt to rewrite history is pathetic at best.

You really are so frick'en ignorant of the cause it is not worth it.

Buffalo

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

>> Sooo... you REALLY believe a political party, be it left or right,
>> controls the stock market? Can you actually back up what you
>> stated and tell us HOW or WHO tried to "keep the stock market down''?
>> Do not people from all parties have stock investment? Do all those
>> greedy right-wingers want to see their stocks flat? Do you even
>> consider what flies from your fingertips?
>
> I never said that they controlled the stock market.
> Can you even read?

You said -->

"In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make
sure it would not come back before the 2012 election. They
knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on
a sinking ship."

Are you really that stupid? Of COURSE you blamed them.

>>> Does the "Party of NO" ring a bell?
>>
>> Republicans <many of the last election> have held firm to
>> their promise to not raise taxes or increase the debt.
>
> Not increase the debt? Are you totally blind?

How many examples do you need?
How many budgets has the house submitted that weren't
put up for consideration? How many times did the repubs
stand up and say no tax increases whatsoever? Who said
no raising taxes one dollar to every ten dollars cut? Do you
even follow politics? It really seems you are out of your
comfort/knowlege zone here.

>> I see that as a good thing. Or are you one that thinks anything
>> over a million is just one of those 'make-believe' numbers?
>>
>>> Buffalo
>>> PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.
>>
>> Horseshit.. memory has nothing to do with it. The chart for
>> the Dow Jones is there in black and white. Look at where stocks
>> were the absolute highest and then take a look at where and
>> when they fell to. Take a look at how they recovered post 9-11
>> and two wars -- then compare to the Obama years. "Selective
>> memory" my ass.
>
> Your reading skills are lacking.

It's a graph, minimal reading required. That's why I thought
you'd be able to understand it. My bad I guess.

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

> You mean the housing crash that the Republicans knew was coming and
> did nothing about when they had complete control? Yes, that's the one
> I am talking about.
> Have you had your head buried up your ass for the last 12 yrs or is
> that about your age?
>
>> Now if you want to find out
>> WHY the housing crash happened, take a look at Dodd and Frank.
>> Your attempt to rewrite history is pathetic at best.
>
> You really are so frick'en ignorant of the cause it is not worth it.

How about you just pour yourself a big'ol cup of ShutTheFuckUp
and do a little reading --

"In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and
creative in stimulating minority gains."

"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios to
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"

"Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it is
resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only produce more
loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe borrowers."

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807

"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory
overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a
decade ago."

"Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency
would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the
two largest players in the mortgage lending industry."

http://tinyurl.com/6lp5qu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8LA8hPgQtI

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

"McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie"

"Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS
learned from the letter shown in full text below."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973

Unlike Bush and McCain, as senator, Obama did nothing, other than earn the
distinction of becoming the second largest recipient of F&F contributions in
the entire congress, even in his short stint there.

Bill Clinton himself said it best:

"I think the responsibility the Democrats have may rest more in resisting
any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to
put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

-Bill Clinton

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any
kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on
these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

[joevan]

I have turtle Head fred and T Justice filtered long ago. Now all his
damn shifty garbage.

[President Mahmoud]

"joevan" <joeva...@vanudity.com> wrote in message
news:vpo278hh8j1pngn7b...@4ax.com...

=================================
So you take your orders from steelie and have no original thoughts
or facts.

Gotcha!

[Big Steel]

Why can't you stop nym-shiting Turtle Head? You are just mad that no one
really reads your crap under your other nym shitting nyms. It's just a
sign that a nerve was struck on you again.

[BurfordTJustice]

"Big Steel" <TheBigrr...@TheBigrrrr6669yyyy.com> wrote in message
news:wpSdnX8yssNu6ezN...@earthlink.com...


LOL This from the Cincinnati punk who changes his email address
with every post.....LOL

Fuck all you welfare bitches can not find your way out
of a wet paper bag with ut help.

Shows you is drowning with barry...

[Big Steel]

[Big Steel]

On 10/7/2012 6:44 AM, 83LowRider wrote:

[Big Steel]

On 10/7/2012 6:51 AM, 83LowRider wrote:

[joevan]

I take order from no one. Haven't seen any facts from any of your
shifty crap.

[Big Steel]

And you never will, because it's just a nym-shifting clown.

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:31:51 -0400, 83LowRider wrote:

> Aardvark wrote:
>
>>>> Under Bush they went down 40%.
>>>
>>> Uhhhh.... not according to any actual facts --
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:DJIA_2000s_graph_%28log
%
>>> 29.svg&page=1
>
>> Couldn't find anything about philo's investments there. Can't you
>> supply a link that's all about him?
>
> If he cares to post his specific investments, then sure... we'll see how
> he did comparing 2000-2008 to 2008-2012.
>

He already said how they did, and I have no reason to doubt his word. Did
you miss that bit?

>>>> Under Obama they have *doubled* in two years!
>>>
>>> What you mean to say is that they are finally coming back IN SPITE of
>>> Obama.
>>>
>>>
>> LOL. Dream on.
>
> No dreaming involved. It has taken SIX YEARS for stocks to get back even
> close to where they were since Obama took office. Is your argument with
> me or with the graph?
>

I didn't look at the graph as it had nothing to do with philo's specific
investments.

>>>> Also: I saw of video today of Romney bringing a "cheat sheet" to the
>>>> debate
>>>>
>>>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZ5_qdHLV8&desktop_uri=/watch?
>>>> v=GQZ5_qdHLV8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No notes were allowed but there he goes again cheating and lying
>>>
>>> Total and utter bullshit. It's a handkerchief.
>>
>> See philo's next post where he admits he was wrong and says what it
>> really was.
>>
>> Fuck, zero for three. What's it like being a failure?
>
> Hmmm... I"d imagine it's kinda like having no fucking life and spending
> every single fucking day bitching about the likes of Boater Dave....
> care to continue?

Funny, you're the one who brought him up. I was discussing the
improvement in the value of philo's investments over two time periods.

Hey, you're on a roll, aren't you?

[Bert]

In news:aM6dnV4p2sO2SPPN...@earthlink.com Big Steel
<TheBigrr...@TheBigrrrr6669yyyy.com> wrote:

><http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/obama-campaign-breaks-f
>und-raising-record/?hpt=po_c2>
>
According to the sources, a taxpayer watchdog group conducted a
nine-month investigation into presidential and congressional
fundraising and has uncovered thousands of cases of credit card
solicitations and donations to Obama and Capitol Hill, allegedly
from unsecure accounts, and many from overseas. That might be a
violation of federal election laws.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2509895/%23.UG47-vl_WGP#.UHGTG66ChFt

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>>> Sooo... you REALLY believe a political party, be it left or right,
>>> controls the stock market? Can you actually back up what you
>>> stated and tell us HOW or WHO tried to "keep the stock market
>>> down''? Do not people from all parties have stock investment? Do
>>> all those greedy right-wingers want to see their stocks flat? Do
>>> you even consider what flies from your fingertips?
>>
>> I never said that they controlled the stock market.
>> Can you even read?
>
>
> You said -->
> "In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make
> sure it would not come back before the 2012 election. They
> knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on
> a sinking ship."
>
> Are you really that stupid? Of COURSE you blamed them.

The Stock Market is not THE economy.
Look, the stock market is at an all time high!!~! Is the Economy????
You must be a Tea Party member.

>
>>>> Does the "Party of NO" ring a bell?
>>>
>>> Republicans <many of the last election> have held firm to
>>> their promise to not raise taxes or increase the debt.
>>
>> Not increase the debt? Are you totally blind?
>
> How many examples do you need?
> How many budgets has the house submitted that weren't
> put up for consideration? How many times did the repubs
> stand up and say no tax increases whatsoever? Who said
> no raising taxes one dollar to every ten dollars cut? Do you
> even follow politics? It really seems you are out of your
> comfort/knowlege zone here.

We lost over 1 trillion dollars due to W's tax cuts and INCREASED the DEBT.
Damn, you must read only right wing propaganda and actually believe it.

>>> I see that as a good thing. Or are you one that thinks anything
>>> over a million is just one of those 'make-believe' numbers?
>>>
>>>> Buffalo
>>>> PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.
>>>
>>> Horseshit.. memory has nothing to do with it. The chart for
>>> the Dow Jones is there in black and white. Look at where stocks
>>> were the absolute highest and then take a look at where and
>>> when they fell to. Take a look at how they recovered post 9-11
>>> and two wars -- then compare to the Obama years. "Selective
>>> memory" my ass.
>>
>> Your reading skills are lacking.
>
> It's a graph, minimal reading required. That's why I thought
> you'd be able to understand it. My bad I guess.

You have selective comprehensive reading skills.
Buffalo

[Big Steel]

On the other hand, the Repubs being caught with hands in the cookie jar
on voter fraud, when it was the one making the point, is a real winner,
huh?

[Buffalo]

Like I said, the Republican Pary knew all about it.
They tried to stop Clinton from forming it.
They also pressured Clinton to sign the bill removing many constraints that
the Banks were under, I believe in 1998.
SO, they KNEW of the Problems so why the fak didn't they FIX them when THEY
had their President and Congress in their pocket from 2003-2006?
They could have changed it all when they had the POWER.
Not one good answer to that question from anyone.
Good links. Did you get them all from the same right wing site.
Buffalo
PS:I am not defending the Democratic Party, I am saying that the Republican
Party is also very responsible for this economic disaster, but they are in
denial, as normal.

[§ñühwö£f]

Buffalo wrote:

Get off my leg, humpy.

[§ñühwö£f]

Plus, 83 douche-bagger is ignoring the fact that the DOW is above where
it was during BushCo's run.

<nods>

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>> You mean the housing crash that the Republicans knew was coming and
>> did nothing about when they had complete control? Yes, that's the one
>> I am talking about.
>> Have you had your head buried up your ass for the last 12 yrs or is
>> that about your age?
>

> How about you just pour yourself a big'ol cup of ShutTheFuckUp
> and do a little reading --

I actually went to all the links you posted. I read them from start to
finish and watched the videos from start to finish.
Did you?

> "In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their
> purchases of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers.
> Operating under that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been
> aggressive and creative in stimulating minority gains."
>
> "The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios
> to loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"
>
> "Although Fannie Mae actually has exceeded its target since 1994, it
> is resisting any hike. It argues that a higher target would only
> produce more loan defaults by pressuring banks to accept unsafe
> borrowers."
>
> http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807

Good one.

>
> "The Bush administration today recommended the most significant
> regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings
> and loan crisis a decade ago."
>
> "Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new
> agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume
> supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored
> companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending
> industry."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6lp5qu

Very biased and misleading.

>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8LA8hPgQtI

Same as above.

>
> http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

"Current members of Congress have received a total of $4.8 million from
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, with Democrats collecting 57 percent of that."
I guess that means the Republicans received 43% or $2.06 million and the
Democrats received $2.74 million according to that link. What real
significance it has, I don't know, except that they were giving OUR money to
politicians, Why?


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314

Very biased and misleading.


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

"This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated
with this video has been terminated. "

> "McCain Letter Demanded 2006 Action on Fannie and Freddie"
>
> "Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae
> and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as
> HUMAN EVENTS learned from the letter shown in full text below."

2006 was too late to start it and still head off the PROBLEM.
Like I've been saying all along, WTF didn't the Republicans take that action
when they had ALL the POWER from 2003-2006???????????
During those years they had the President and the Congress in their pocket.
Why??? Why???? Why didn't they use it to do it??????

>> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28973
>
> Unlike Bush and McCain, as senator, Obama did nothing, other than
> earn the distinction of becoming the second largest recipient of F&F
> contributions in the entire congress, even in his short stint there.

You keep on going with different timelines with different economies.
Damn, what might be said in one decade might not be correct in the next. Do
you understand?

> Bill Clinton himself said it best:

> "I think the responsibility the Democrats have may rest more in
> resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I
> was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie
> Mae and Freddie Mac."
>
> -Bill Clinton

Yes, at that time the ecomomy was booming, or did you forget that too? When
times change, some rules and regs must also change.
[snip]

Buffalo

[Aardvark]

It's fun to have a chew-toy from time to time, mate.

:-)

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I take order from no one.

-----------------------------------
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Debbie!

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

>>> I never said that they controlled the stock market.
>>> Can you even read?
>>
>>
>> You said -->
>> "In spite of the Republican Party doing its very best to make
>> sure it would not come back before the 2012 election. They
>> knew that if the economy recovered much, they would be on
>> a sinking ship."
>>
>> Are you really that stupid? Of COURSE you blamed them.
>
> The Stock Market is not THE economy.
> Look, the stock market is at an all time high!!~! Is the Economy????

Your implication was the stock market, the stock market
was the subject.

> You must be a Tea Party member.

Then you would be wrong.

>>>> Republicans <many of the last election> have held firm to
>>>> their promise to not raise taxes or increase the debt.
>>>
>>> Not increase the debt? Are you totally blind?
>>
>> How many examples do you need?
>> How many budgets has the house submitted that weren't
>> put up for consideration? How many times did the repubs
>> stand up and say no tax increases whatsoever? Who said
>> no raising taxes one dollar to every ten dollars cut? Do you
>> even follow politics? It really seems you are out of your
>> comfort/knowlege zone here.
>
> We lost over 1 trillion dollars due to W's tax cuts and INCREASED the
> DEBT.

Yes, and fuck GB for doing so. And fuck BHO for raising
it another 6 trillion.

>>>> I see that as a good thing. Or are you one that thinks anything
>>>> over a million is just one of those 'make-believe' numbers?
>>>>
>>>>> Buffalo
>>>>> PS: Another right winger with 'selective' memory loss.
>>>>
>>>> Horseshit.. memory has nothing to do with it. The chart for
>>>> the Dow Jones is there in black and white. Look at where stocks
>>>> were the absolute highest and then take a look at where and
>>>> when they fell to. Take a look at how they recovered post 9-11
>>>> and two wars -- then compare to the Obama years. "Selective
>>>> memory" my ass.
>>>
>>> Your reading skills are lacking.
>>
>> It's a graph, minimal reading required. That's why I thought
>> you'd be able to understand it. My bad I guess.
>
> You have selective comprehensive reading skills.

Not possible, as I was an Evelyn Woodhead Speed Reading graduate.

[83LowRider]

Aardvark wrote:


>>> Couldn't find anything about philo's investments there. Can't you
>>> supply a link that's all about him?
>>
>> If he cares to post his specific investments, then sure... we'll see
>> how he did comparing 2000-2008 to 2008-2012.
>>
>
> He already said how they did, and I have no reason to doubt his word.
> Did you miss that bit?

We lost over 40% of our investments during the early part
of the housing crash. I somehow doubt philo fared that
much differently. Feel free to take his word, I don't believe
it.

>> No dreaming involved. It has taken SIX YEARS for stocks to get back
>> even close to where they were since Obama took office. Is your
>> argument with me or with the graph?
>>
>
> I didn't look at the graph as it had nothing to do with philo's
> specific investments.

Ahhh, I see. So you're just picking and choosing what to
believe - and according to what? a name on usenet?
Do you actually know him? or me? Fuck no. Is usenet
where you find all your financial info?

>>> See philo's next post where he admits he was wrong and says what it
>>> really was.
>>>
>>> Fuck, zero for three. What's it like being a failure?
>>
>> Hmmm... I"d imagine it's kinda like having no fucking life and
>> spending every single fucking day bitching about the likes of Boater
>> Dave.... care to continue?
>
> Funny, you're the one who brought him up. I was discussing the
> improvement in the value of philo's investments over two time periods.
>
> Hey, you're on a roll, aren't you?

So, you're privy to his specific investments?

[83LowRider]

���hw��f wrote:

>>
> Plus, 83 douche-bagger is ignoring the fact that the DOW is above
> where it was during BushCo's run.
>
> <nods>

More ignorance from Mr. Potato Head.

Closing: 14,164.53 Tuesday, October 9, 2007

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closing_milestones_of_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average

[Ferd Berfle]

"Big Steel" <TheBigrr...@TheBigrrrr6669yyyy.com> wrote in message

news:dOOdna232PmoKe3N...@earthlink.com...
>

[83LowRider]

Aardvark wrote:

>> Plus, 83 douche-bagger is ignoring the fact that the DOW is above
>> where it was during BushCo's run.
>>
>> <nods>
>
> It's fun to have a chew-toy from time to time, mate.

If wrapping your mouth around a bone is what thrills
ya "mate" - have at it.

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

> Like I said, the Republican Pary knew all about it.
> They tried to stop Clinton from forming it.
> They also pressured Clinton to sign the bill removing many
> constraints that the Banks were under, I believe in 1998.
> SO, they KNEW of the Problems so why the fak didn't they FIX them
> when THEY had their President and Congress in their pocket from
> 2003-2006?
> They could have changed it all when they had the POWER.
> Not one good answer to that question from anyone.
> Good links. Did you get them all from the same right wing site.
> Buffalo
> PS:I am not defending the Democratic Party, I am saying that the
> Republican Party is also very responsible for this economic disaster,
> but they are in denial, as normal.

No party is 'innocent' in the F&F debacle. There were members of
both raising red flags, members of both reaping rewards. In the end
<IMO> the majority of responsibility still falls at the feet of Dodd
and Frank.

[Big Steel]

LOL!

[Big Steel]

On 10/7/2012 2:17 PM, Ferd Berfle wrote:

<snipped>

A true red-neck right-wing-nut Tea Party Republican...

[Big Steel]

[Big Steel]

[§ñühwö£f]

Well be sure you rinse with listerene...

[§ñühwö£f]

83LowRider wrote:

You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:

<http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-and-the-obama-years.html>

<http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks-idINBRE8790VX20120810>

I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.

Word.

[StevieO]

"���hw��f" <snuh...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:k4v0h0$kid$2...@dont-email.me...

I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.

--
From your scooter??

WORD!

[Ferd Berfle]

"Big Steel" <TheBigrr...@TheBigrrrr6669yyyy.com> wrote in message

news:Tb-dneuDT8uqSuzN...@earthlink.com...

> On 10/7/2012 2:17 PM, Ferd Berfle wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> A true red-neck right-wing-nut Tea Party Republican...
>
>

We apologize to the monkeys.

[Big Steel]

[Big Steel]

[83LowRider]

���hw��f wrote:

> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>
> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-and-the-obama-years.html

Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
How fucking convenient.

> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks-idINBRE8790VX20120810>

And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is almost
back to
where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!

And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.

> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.

You'll continue to eat the gov't cheese and powdered
eggs for your fucking breakfast. And you'll damn well
like it. Don't forget to say your daily "Thank you Obama"
either. And do it on your knees faggot... you know, where
you're most comfortable. Maybe when you're done your
scooter battery will be recharged and you can go pick up
your free phone.

[telsar]

The Stock Market/Oil/Food/etc have risen and will continue to rise
because the Fed continues to glut the world with US dollars. They are
in essence paying the interest by printing more dollars. Look how many
Treasury's the Fed has bought from the US Treasury. And now the Fed is
buying a huge load of mortgages each month, with new money.

Soon all prices will be up.

--
Steal a little and go to jail, steal a lot and become King.

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> ���hw��f wrote:
>
>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>
>>
http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-and-the-obama-years.html
>
>
> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
> How fucking convenient.

What's your problem with that?


>>
<http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks-idINB

RE8790VX20120810>
>
> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
> almost back to
> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!

Wasn't it 2007 when the Republican economic crash started?

I guess you are in denial of any Republican responsibility in this Great
Recession.
They were like watching the mattress smolder (from 2003-2006) in a bedroom
(in the house they were responsible for) that had been used by a Democrat
that smoked and just laughed it off. Then the whole fricken house finally
burned up and they blamed it on the Democrat who rented the room because he
was a smoker. They conviently forgot that they knew it was smoldering and
that they COULD have put it out, but they just let it go.
Now that the house is being rebuilt slowly, they want to take it over again.
Whee Haw!!!!

Buffalo

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

>>
>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>> How fucking convenient.
>
> What's your problem with that?

Because that was a low point. Stocks <and the economy in general>
took a dump. Even so, the market rebounded and the stock market
hit a new high.

> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks-idINB
> RE8790VX20120810>
>>
>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>> almost back to
>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>
> Wasn't it 2007 when the Republican economic crash started?
>
> I guess you are in denial of any Republican responsibility in this
> Great Recession.

Not at all. No party is 'innocent' in this crushing debt and both
parties should have been more involved over the last two decades
(in our mounting debt AND what was happening in F&F).

> They were like watching the mattress smolder (from 2003-2006) in a
> bedroom (in the house they were responsible for) that had been used
> by a Democrat that smoked and just laughed it off. Then the whole
> fricken house finally burned up and they blamed it on the Democrat
> who rented the room because he was a smoker. They conviently forgot
> that they knew it was smoldering and that they COULD have put it out,
> but they just let it go.
> Now that the house is being rebuilt slowly, they want to take it over
> again. Whee Haw!!!!

And regarding the housing crisis due to F&F -> Bush made an attempt,
McCain made an attempt. Dodd and Frank were getting their kickbacks
and both had great insight as to the goings on at F&F. But you're correct,
both parties deserve blame for ALL our economic woes.

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>>> How fucking convenient.
>>
>> What's your problem with that?
>
> Because that was a low point. Stocks <and the economy in general>
> took a dump. Even so, the market rebounded and the stock market
> hit a new high.

If it does anything, it illustrates that the economy was on a downturn when
W took office.

>>
<http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks-idINB
>> RE8790VX20120810>
>>>
>>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>>> almost back to
>>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>>
>> Wasn't it 2007 when the Republican economic crash started?
>>
>> I guess you are in denial of any Republican responsibility in this
>> Great Recession.
>
> Not at all. No party is 'innocent' in this crushing debt and both
> parties should have been more involved over the last two decades
> (in our mounting debt AND what was happening in F&F).
>
>> They were like watching the mattress smolder (from 2003-2006) in a
>> bedroom (in the house they were responsible for) that had been used
>> by a Democrat that smoked and just laughed it off. Then the whole
>> fricken house finally burned up and they blamed it on the Democrat
>> who rented the room because he was a smoker. They conviently forgot
>> that they knew it was smoldering and that they COULD have put it out,
>> but they just let it go.
>> Now that the house is being rebuilt slowly, they want to take it over
>> again. Whee Haw!!!!
>
> And regarding the housing crisis due to F&F -> Bush made an attempt,
> McCain made an attempt. Dodd and Frank were getting their kickbacks
> and both had great insight as to the goings on at F&F. But you're
> correct, both parties deserve blame for ALL our economic woes.

The frick'en point I'm trying to get you to admit is that the REPUBLICAN
PARTY didn't do their job when they had the CONTROL!!!
Now they want control back!!! They are still in denial. Ever wonder why they
never mentions the W or his and their years in CONTROL?.
They come off like business experts that can fix it, when they proved they
didn't give a shit when it COUNTED.
If they would do their job, then I also would want them back in. but I fear
they will sit back on their haunches congratulating themselves for the win
and will only benefit themselves and the big businesses and the ultra
weatlthy like they did from 2003-2006./
Gasoline might even go down (temoparily) after they give the oil companies a
100 Billion dollar benefit package. :)

Buffalo
PS: Just let the smoldering mattress go. Hell we didn't start it and if it
gets bigger, we will just blame it on the Democrats. Not out problem! :)

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

> If it does anything, it illustrates that the economy was on a
> downturn when W took office.

Jesus dude.... what do you want to do now? Blame Clinton too?

Look - I'm not patting ANY party on the back for past legislation
regarding our fiscal situation. BOTH are indeed guilty. And now
it's time to either turn it around or become another Greece, Spain,
Iceland, etc etc. Fuck both parties for spending money we never
had. Fuck'em both for bowing to China or N Korean or Iran. Fuck
lifelong politicians in general. Both sides - equally.

> The frick'en point I'm trying to get you to admit is that the
> REPUBLICAN PARTY didn't do their job when they had the CONTROL!!!

Uh... apparently you have no idea how this works. Our current
implosion isn't the work of one president or one congress. This
is a cumulative thang' that has happened over the last few decades.
And it isn't just a president - he can't write a fucking check. It's
the house and the senate and the lobbyists and a stupid <or sleeping>
public that allows this to fester year after year. Bill Clinton had
'control'. Obama had two years of the WH, senate and house.

> Now they want control back!!! They are still in denial. Ever wonder
> why they never mentions the W or his and their years in CONTROL?.
> They come off like business experts that can fix it, when they proved
> they didn't give a shit when it COUNTED.

So go back over the years, tell me which sitting president(s) fucked
things up... THEN tell me who had majority in the HofR or in the Senate.
Then you can feel free to tell me how these people stay in office.
The left hates Bush Jr. but he managed two terms. Well, the right
hates Obama and he may well serve 2 terms too. So it looks like
there ain't gonna be a whole lotta happiness no matter what. The
left will blame the right and visa versa.... but you know what? It
is OUR OWN fault for putting these losers in office again and again.
It's a sad fucking state of affairs when the best we can do is a choice
between BHO and MR.

> If they would do their job, then I also would want them back in. but
> I fear they will sit back on their haunches congratulating themselves
> for the win and will only benefit themselves and the big businesses
> and the ultra weatlthy like they did from 2003-2006./
> Gasoline might even go down (temoparily) after they give the oil
> companies a 100 Billion dollar benefit package. :)
>
> Buffalo
> PS: Just let the smoldering mattress go. Hell we didn't start it and
> if it gets bigger, we will just blame it on the Democrats. Not out
> problem! :)

I will vote Romney. If he gives a single concession to corporate
interests or raises our debt one penny - I'll never vote for the
"big two" again. I'll vote third party the rest of my life.

[§ñühwö£f]

"83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:

> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>
>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>
>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
>> d-the-obama-years.html
>
>
> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
> How fucking convenient.
>
>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
>
> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
> almost back to
> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>
> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
>
>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
>

> You'll continue to<SLAP>

Fuck off, kook.


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[%]

§ñühwö£f wrote:
> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>
>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>>
>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
>>> d-the-obama-years.html
>>
>>
>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>> How fucking convenient.
>>
>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
>>
>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>> almost back to
>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>>
>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
>>
>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
>>
>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
>
> Fuck off, kook.
>
>
> ^__^

hi pig boogie

[83LowRider]

§ñühwö£f wrote:

>
> Fuck off, kook.

Show me the extent of your power....
make me.

[%]

LOL

[§ñühwö£f]

% wrote:

>
>
> ���hw��f wrote:
>> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
>> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
>>

>>> ���hw��f wrote:
>>>
>>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
>>>> d-the-obama-years.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>>> How fucking convenient.
>>>
>>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
>>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
>>>
>>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>>> almost back to
>>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>>>
>>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
>>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
>>>
>>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
>>>
>>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
>>
>> Fuck off, kook.
>>
>>
>> ^__^
>
>
>
> hi pig boogie

como esta usted, lombrisas intestinales?

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[§ñühwö£f]

83LowRider wrote:

You're soaking in it; now.

<nods>

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[§ñühwö£f]

lolercopters on the horizon...

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[§ñühwö£f]

An tSin Gorm wrote:
> In article <k50qnh$bv8$1...@dont-email.me>, "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com>
> wrote:

> Post a followup, kook.
>
The trap is laid!
Magnifico!

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[83LowRider]

���hw��f wrote:
>
>>>> Fuck off, kook.
>>> Show me the extent of your power....
>>> make me.
>>
>> Post a followup, kook.
>>
> The trap is laid!
> Magnifico!

It's the only "laid" you'll ever get.
Sad.

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>> If it does anything, it illustrates that the economy was on a
>> downturn when W took office.
>
> Jesus dude.... what do you want to do now? Blame Clinton too?
>
> Look - I'm not patting ANY party on the back for past legislation
> regarding our fiscal situation. BOTH are indeed guilty. And now
> it's time to either turn it around or become another Greece, Spain,
> Iceland, etc etc. Fuck both parties for spending money we never
> had. Fuck'em both for bowing to China or N Korean or Iran. Fuck
> lifelong politicians in general. Both sides - equally.
>
>> The frick'en point I'm trying to get you to admit is that the
>> REPUBLICAN PARTY didn't do their job when they had the CONTROL!!!
>
> Uh... apparently you have no idea how this works. Our current
> implosion isn't the work of one president or one congress. This
> is a cumulative thang' that has happened over the last few decades.

It could have been controlled by the Republican President and Congress
(2003-2006).
They were 'aware' of the problem for years and refused to take action.
THEY proclaim themselves as the 'Business Minded Party' compared to Dems.
Well, there great business sense led this Country down the financial tube.
Yep, Romney is a business man, so they say. Presidential material?????
Takes more than business brains to run this large and powerful Country.
Yes, the Democrats had their heads buried in the sand or up their asses
also.

> And it isn't just a president - he can't write a fucking check. It's
> the house and the senate and the lobbyists and a stupid <or sleeping>
> public that allows this to fester year after year. Bill Clinton had
> 'control'. Obama had two years of the WH, senate and house.

Clinton had a Democratic Congress for 2 of his 8 yrs.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

Congress YRs Senate House
Total D R I Total D R I Vacant
Overall

103rd 1993-1995 100 57 43 - - 435 258 176 1 - Clinton D
104th 1995-1997 100 48 52 - - 435 204 230 1 - Clinton R
105th 1997-1999 100 45 55 - - 435 207 226 2 - Clinton R
106th 1999-2001 100 45 55 - - 435 211 223 1 - Clinton R
107th 2001-2003 100 50 50 - - 435 212 221 2 - W. Bush R
108th 2003-2005 100 48 51 1 - 435 205 229 1 - W. Bush R
109th 2005-2007 100 44 55 1 - 435 202 231 1 ---1 W. Bush R
110th 2007-2009 100 49 49 2 - 435 233 198 4 W. Bush D
111th 2009-2011 100 57 41 2 ---2 435 256 178 1 Obama D
112th 2011-2013 100 51 47 2 - 435 193 242 1 Obama Split

>
>> Now they want control back!!! They are still in denial. Ever wonder
>> why they never mentions the W or his and their years in CONTROL?.
>> They come off like business experts that can fix it, when they proved
>> they didn't give a shit when it COUNTED.
>
> So go back over the years, tell me which sitting president(s) fucked
> things up... THEN tell me who had majority in the HofR or in the
> Senate. Then you can feel free to tell me how these people stay in
> office.
> The left hates Bush Jr. but he managed two terms.

Many didn't want to switch Presidents during the middle of a war.

> Well, the right
> hates Obama and he may well serve 2 terms too.

I just wish we had a better choice in this election, because I also think
Obama needs to go, but Romney and his Party scare the shit out of me.

> So it looks like
> there ain't gonna be a whole lotta happiness no matter what. The
> left will blame the right and visa versa.... but you know what? It
> is OUR OWN fault for putting these losers in office again and again.
> It's a sad fucking state of affairs when the best we can do is a
> choice between BHO and MR.
>
>> If they would do their job, then I also would want them back in. but
>> I fear they will sit back on their haunches congratulating themselves
>> for the win and will only benefit themselves and the big businesses
>> and the ultra weatlthy like they did from 2003-2006./
>> Gasoline might even go down (temoparily) after they give the oil
>> companies a 100 Billion dollar benefit package. :)
>>
>> Buffalo
>> PS: Just let the smoldering mattress go. Hell we didn't start it and
>> if it gets bigger, we will just blame it on the Democrats. Not out
>> problem! :)
>
> I will vote Romney. If he gives a single concession to corporate
> interests or raises our debt one penny - I'll never vote for the
> "big two" again. I'll vote third party the rest of my life.

No President AFAIK has decreased the National Debt in over five decades,
not even by a penny. So don't get your hopes up. The interest alone on the
ND is incredible.
Buffalo
PS: If you're religious, pray!!! :)

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate!

First, check out what §ñühwö£f said:


>
> % wrote:

> >
> >
> > §ñühwö£f wrote:
> >> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
> >> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
> >>>> d-the-obama-years.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
> >>> How fucking convenient.
> >>>
> >>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
> >>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
> >>>
> >>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
> >>> almost back to
> >>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
> >>>
> >>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
> >>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
> >>>
> >>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
> >>>
> >>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
> >>
> >> Fuck off, kook.
> >>
> >>
> >> ^__^
> >
> >
> >
> > hi pig boogie
>
> como esta usted, lombrisas intestinales?

Looks like he's out of oxy again. That's when he really snaps.

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____________________________________________________________________

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"there's not much you can tell me about the boner that i don't know
already."

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____________________________________________________________________

Uncle Steve learns about pigs:

<US> How much money have you spent paying off the PIGS?

<CM> The pigs have no use for money. They're content to eat table scraps
and forage for truffles.

<US> I keep forgetting you've been doing this for so long that it's easy
for you. I can't wait to piss on your grave.

Regards,
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____________________________________________________________________

[tard] Phoenix swallows the hook, the line, the sinker, and half of the
pole:

<CM> Watch the stupid cunt ask what 1337 means...

<JD> That is exactly what I am expecting.

<CM> ROT 1337... it'll make you dizzy!

<Tard> Did... did you just tell someone to attempt to ROT-13 *numbers*,
you Clueless Newbie of the Month candidate?

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Even when we warned him first, he still fell for it!

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that was said by , JIM THE CHECKMATE GORMAN

[83LowRider]

Buffalo wrote:

> It could have been controlled by the Republican President and Congress
> (2003-2006).
> They were 'aware' of the problem for years and refused to take action.
> THEY proclaim themselves as the 'Business Minded Party' compared to
> Dems. Well, there great business sense led this Country down the
> financial tube. Yep, Romney is a business man, so they say.
> Presidential material????? Takes more than business brains to run
> this large and powerful Country. Yes, the Democrats had their heads
> buried in the sand or up their asses also.

Bush was indeed running up our national debt.. that's a given.
Aside from that the nation was in great shape until the housing
disaster. Unemployment was basically nil (5% or less is usually
considered nil unemployment). The stock market was peaking.
It all went to shit with the housing crash. Who you desire to place
blame on is fine... blame whoever you wish - I put it on Dodd
and Frank for the most part but certainly many others could
be found guilty. But that's past history. The housing market
had gotten waaay out of kilter. Prices were way to inflated.
Like any other industry (such as the banking industry failures
of the mid 80's) it takes a 'bust' before things can settle back
to where they should be. As a result, home prices have fallen
back to a much more 'reasonable' price.

>> And it isn't just a president - he can't write a fucking check. It's
>> the house and the senate and the lobbyists and a stupid <or sleeping>
>> public that allows this to fester year after year. Bill Clinton had
>> 'control'. Obama had two years of the WH, senate and house.
>
> Clinton had a Democratic Congress for 2 of his 8 yrs.
>
> http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html
>
> Congress YRs Senate House
> Total D R I Total D R I Vacant
> Overall
>
> 103rd 1993-1995 100 57 43 - - 435 258 176 1 - Clinton D
> 104th 1995-1997 100 48 52 - - 435 204 230 1 - Clinton R
> 105th 1997-1999 100 45 55 - - 435 207 226 2 - Clinton R
> 106th 1999-2001 100 45 55 - - 435 211 223 1 - Clinton R
> 107th 2001-2003 100 50 50 - - 435 212 221 2 - W. Bush R
> 108th 2003-2005 100 48 51 1 - 435 205 229 1 - W. Bush R
> 109th 2005-2007 100 44 55 1 - 435 202 231 1 ---1 W. Bush R
> 110th 2007-2009 100 49 49 2 - 435 233 198 4 W. Bush D
> 111th 2009-2011 100 57 41 2 ---2 435 256 178 1 Obama
> D 112th 2011-2013 100 51 47 2 - 435 193 242 1 Obama
> Split

Two things about the Clinton era -- he was in a very unique situation.
He was the sitting president during the computer outbreak. Suddenly,
everyone was either buying a new computer, new internet services,
new IPOs... he was the benefactor of the new computer age and the
financial world went crazy. Yeah, Bill and Al were great for the economy,
Bill Gates and Al Greenspan.

Secondly, Clinton was forced <via Newt & Co.> to the center.
Many would say this was his "best" time.

>> So go back over the years, tell me which sitting president(s) fucked
>> things up... THEN tell me who had majority in the HofR or in the
>> Senate. Then you can feel free to tell me how these people stay in
>> office.
>> The left hates Bush Jr. but he managed two terms.
>
> Many didn't want to switch Presidents during the middle of a war.

That is true... but I'm not sure that was a deciding factor. We'll
never know the answer to that one.

>> Well, the right
>> hates Obama and he may well serve 2 terms too.
>
> I just wish we had a better choice in this election, because I also
> think Obama needs to go, but Romney and his Party scare the shit out
> of me.

Romney seems to be a pretty honorable man from all
I've read. He had to opportunity to be a spoiled asshole
and yet gave away his inheritance, attended business and
law school <together> and lived fairly meager. There is
nothing in his background that says he was involved in
most of the temptations of youth. He has been faithful to
his wife and his religion, donated millions, and as far as
I'm aware there are no Rezdos or Rev. Wrights in his past.

> No President AFAIK has decreased the National Debt in over five
> decades, not even by a penny. So don't get your hopes up. The
> interest alone on the ND is incredible.

This has to stop and it has to be done soon. I do not see Obama
reversing course so I'll hope Romney is the one to at least attempt
some major changes. I'll not be holding my breath, but I can hope.

[§ñühwö£f]

83LowRider wrote:

> �??hw?�f wrote:
>>>>> Fuck off, kook.
>>>> Show me the extent of your power....
>>>> make me.
>>> Post a followup, kook.
>>>
>> The trap is laid!
>> Magnifico!
>

> I only ever get
> Sad.
>

that's just your brain starting to comprehend your abysmal stupidity...

<nods>

[§ñühwö£f]

Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
>

> First, check out what ￜￜￜhwￜￜf said:
>
>
>> % wrote:

>>>
>>> ￜￜￜhwￜￜf wrote:
>>>> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> ￜￜￜhwￜￜf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
>>>>>> d-the-obama-years.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>>>>> How fucking convenient.
>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
>>>>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
>>>>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>>>>> almost back to
>>>>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>>>>>
>>>>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
>>>>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
>>>>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
>>>> Fuck off, kook.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ^__^
>>>
>>>
>>> hi pig boogie
>> como esta usted, lombrisas intestinales?
>
> Looks like he's out of oxy again. That's when he really snaps.
>

Yeah, he's all "donde esta mi drogas!?"

[%]

§ńühwöŁf wrote:
> 83LowRider wrote:

>> §??hw?Łf wrote:
>>>>>> Fuck off, kook.
>>>>> Show me the extent of your power....
>>>>> make me.
>>>> Post a followup, kook.
>>>>
>>> The trap is laid!
>>> Magnifico!
>>
>> I only ever get
>> Sad.
>>
>
> that's just your brain starting to comprehend your abysmal
> stupidity...
> <nods>

yawns

[%]

§ñühwö£f wrote:
> Checkmate wrote:
>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>> posts by Checkmate!
>>

>> First, check out what §ñühwö£f said:
>>
>>
>>> % wrote:
>>>>

>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>>>> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
>>>>>>> d-the-obama-years.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
>>>>>> How fucking convenient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
>>>>>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
>>>>>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
>>>>>> almost back to
>>>>>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
>>>>>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
>>>>>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
>>>>> Fuck off, kook.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ^__^
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hi pig boogie
>>> como esta usted, lombrisas intestinales?
>>
>> Looks like he's out of oxy again. That's when he really snaps.
>>
> Yeah, he's all "donde esta mi drogas!?"

and you're all mamik wi iniwak waska-hi-kan ininiwak

[Buffalo]

83LowRider wrote:
> Buffalo wrote:
>
>> It could have been controlled by the Republican President and
>> Congress (2003-2006).
>> They were 'aware' of the problem for years and refused to take
>> action. THEY proclaim themselves as the 'Business Minded Party'
>> compared to Dems. Well, there great business sense led this Country
>> down the financial tube. Yep, Romney is a business man, so they say.
>> Presidential material????? Takes more than business brains to run
>> this large and powerful Country. Yes, the Democrats had their heads
>> buried in the sand or up their asses also.
>
> Bush was indeed running up our national debt.. that's a given.
> Aside from that the nation was in great shape until the housing
> disaster. Unemployment was basically nil (5% or less is usually
> considered nil unemployment). The stock market was peaking.
> It all went to shit with the housing crash.

The Republican Congress and President (2003-06) strongly suspected it was
coming and did NOTHING.
Too bad, they could have changed history for the better, esp after their FU
with starting the Iraq war.

It is past history, but will history repeat itself if Republicans take
control again.
I sure hope not.
We only see the results of gov actions and inactions, not the real reasons
why they took place.

No doubt about it, Clinton was in at the right time and the housing loan
decisions may have been proper for the bustling economic time.
They were not proper after 2011 and should have been changed.

> Yeah, Bill and Al were great for the
> economy, Bill Gates and Al Greenspan.
>
> Secondly, Clinton was forced <via Newt & Co.> to the center.
> Many would say this was his "best" time.

Because of it, or in spite of it? :)

I don't really see how it can stop unless somehow we increase our GDP
(income) exponentially.
Pretty soon our interest pymts will approach our GDP if things keep going
the same way.

Buffalo

PS: Prayers can't hurt and drastic action is needed. Perhaps Romney will
surprise all. :)

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate!

First, check out what §ñühwö£f said:


>
> Checkmate wrote:
> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> > Checkmate!
> >

> > First, check out what §ñühwö£f said:
> >
> >
> >> % wrote:
> >>>

> >>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
> >>>> "83LowRider" <83low...@nywilldo.com> wrote in
> >>>> news:k4veq3$l2g$1...@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>> §ñühwö£f wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You gormless cunt, wake the fuck up:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.harikari.com/economy/the-dow-jones-during-the-bush-years-an
> >>>>>> d-the-obama-years.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Same graph... but yours seems to 'begin' around 9/11.
> >>>>> How fucking convenient.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> <http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/10/us-usa-campaign-obama-stocks
> >>>>>> -idINBRE8790VX20120810>
> >>>>> And an article too!!! Look peoplez!!! it says the stock market is
> >>>>> almost back to
> >>>>> where it was in 2007! GOOOOO Obama!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And it just RaVeS on how well the economy has done under BHO!
> >>>>> Yeah, in Bizzaro world maybe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I eat bitches like you for fucking breakfast.
> >>>>> You'll continue to<SLAP>
> >>>> Fuck off, kook.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ^__^
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> hi pig boogie
> >> como esta usted, lombrisas intestinales?
> >
> > Looks like he's out of oxy again. That's when he really snaps.
> >
> Yeah, he's all "donde esta mi drogas!?"

No esta aqui! El Elohell!

[§ñühwö£f]

Dude, your igloos melting.

[§ñühwö£f]

Checkmate wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
>

> First, check out what ￜￜￜhwￜￜf said:
>
>
>> Checkmate wrote:
>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
>>> Checkmate!
>>>

>>> First, check out what ￜￜￜhwￜￜf said:
>>>
>>>
>>>> % wrote:

Daves not here either...