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preesi

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:18:55 PM8/17/05
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Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
folder?
Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.

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preesi

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:18:55 PM8/17/05
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Terra Prime wrote:

> Preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and
> deleting.
>
> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent
> messages to the sent items folder"
>
That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved!
I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts

preesi

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:18:56 PM8/17/05
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Toolman Tim wrote:
> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YsWdnTVd6qN...@comcast.com...

> Terra Prime wrote:
> Preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and
> deleting.
>
> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent
> messages to the sent items folder"
>
> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved!
> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
>
> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for newsgroup
> use. Then switch identies when you are going to email.
>
Why should I go thru the hassle?

preesi

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:18:57 PM8/17/05
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samuel wrote:
> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:4KydnSL8Gb8...@comcast.com:

>
> Toolman Tim wrote:
> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YsWdnTVd6qN...@comcast.com...
> Terra Prime wrote:
> Preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the
> sent folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out
> the news and deleting.
>
> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy
> of sent messages to the sent items folder"
>
> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved!
> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
>
> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for
> newsgroup use. Then switch identies when you are going to
> email.
>
> Why should I go thru the hassle?
>
> why get anything that works better ? not a hassle in long run
>
> http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html
>

Look, I have Thunderbird, but If I leave it open it NEVER checks for
new
mail!
I have to keep clicking "GET NEW MAIL".
Plus I hate configuring things for spam.
I have a spam blocker for OE.

preesi

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:19:02 PM8/17/05
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Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:44:56 -0400, "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net
> wrote:
>
> Look, I have Thunderbird, but If I leave it open it NEVER checks for
> new mail!
> I have to keep clicking "GET NEW MAIL".
>
> Did you turn on the setting "Check for new mail every <x>
minutes?
>
Yes it didnt work

Top (retired)

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Aug 17, 2005, 3:38:38 PM8/17/05
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pre...@comcast-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (preesi) wrote in
news:B4MMe.130087$oj4.2...@twister.southeast.rr.com:

>>
>
> Look, I have Thunderbird, but If I leave it open it NEVER checks for
> new
> mail!
> I have to keep clicking "GET NEW MAIL".
> Plus I hate configuring things for spam.
> I have a spam blocker for OE.
>
>
You do know you can set TB to check for new messages at an interval you
set right? Under account settings -> server settings.

Top

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Blinky the Shark

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:09:58 PM8/17/05
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preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
> folder?
> Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.

===Boilerplate===

You can probably access this public Usenet newsgroup directly with
some fine news client like slrn or pan or knode or others [1], rather
than some clunky web interface, unless, say, you're at firewalled at
work and IT hasn't favorably responded to your request for Usenet
(NNTP) capability. Do yourself and the rest of Usenet a favor: check
out your options and take control of your own Usenet experience.
And learn Usenet conventions and courtesies -- things you won't learn
using some clunky web gateway.

[1]Even with a piece of crap you might already have, like Outlook
Express, which, as bad as it is, still beats web interfaces for this
activity that wasn't meant for webification.

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Mike Easter

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:30:05 PM8/17/05
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preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
> folder?
> Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.

Go read the results of this thread^1 the first time you posted these
messages.

You are now posting 'regurgitations' of your previous messages in the
thread of which these don't show the references lines in the headers
which would be there for the replies if they weren't coming about by
some strange mechanism of reposting your old messages.

^1 http://snipurl.com/h0tz

Snurled googlegroups of thread of 26 starting at:

From: "Preesi"
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: Outlook Help
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:51:43 -0400
Message-ID: <Qcadna0htuY...@comcast.com>


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Mike Easter

trout

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:44:51 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:

> preesi wrote:
>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
>> folder?
>> Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.
>
> Go read the results of this thread^1 the first time you posted these
> messages.
>
> You are now posting 'regurgitations' of your previous messages in the
> thread of which these don't show the references lines in the headers
> which would be there for the replies if they weren't coming about by
> some strange mechanism of reposting your old messages.

<snip>

I guess this is because he's posting through "JLA Forums".
These people are even more weaselish than the regular web interfaces
that 'carry' the newsgroup.
It's not mentioned by name, or even identified as a Usenet group.
24hrsupport.helpdesk is simply labled "General Technical Support", as
though it's a service provided by these assholes.
--
Nervy douchebags.


Blinky the Shark

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:44:51 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:
> preesi wrote:
>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
>> folder?
>> Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.
>
> Go read the results of this thread^1 the first time you posted these
> messages.
>
> You are now posting 'regurgitations' of your previous messages in the
> thread of which these don't show the references lines in the headers
> which would be there for the replies if they weren't coming about by
> some strange mechanism of reposting your old messages.
>
> ^1 http://snipurl.com/h0tz

Isn't he using some crappy web interface? Check headers.

TNKEV

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Aug 17, 2005, 4:52:38 PM8/17/05
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preesi wrote:
> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent
> folder?
> Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.

tools>options>send and unclick save sent messages in sent folder.

then go down load OE quote fix,its a quick down load that will
alleviate people giving you crap about using OE and it will show
emoticons for you.


Mike Easter

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:03:21 PM8/17/05
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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> Mike Easter wrote:
>> You are now posting 'regurgitations' of your previous messages

> Isn't he using some crappy web interface? Check headers.

I don't have the whole picture.

Previously ~ Jul 31 those posts were coming from a comcast user in/near
Harristown PA via OE and comcast news. eg 68.80.200.48 rDNS
pcp08545298pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net

Currently those 'samely' edited including cites and sigs are coming from
a RR user in/near Raleigh NC via the RR newsserver and an agent saying
newsSync JLA forums which is at
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=62 eg 71.65.228.39 rDNS
cpe-071-065-228-039.nc.res.rr.com

That forum carries this group.


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Mike Easter

Mike Easter

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:21:19 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:

> Currently those 'samely' edited including cites and sigs are coming
> from a RR user in/near Raleigh NC via the RR newsserver and an agent
> saying newsSync JLA forums which is at
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=62 eg 71.65.228.39 rDNS
> cpe-071-065-228-039.nc.res.rr.com
>
> That forum carries this group.

Ah, so. Things are clearing up. A RR user IP typically isn't a 'cpe' -
which is usually 'customer provided equipment' or similar concept
indicating something other than home enduser.

jlaforums.com DNS 71.65.228.39 rDNS cpe-071-065-228-039.nc.res.rr.com

So, postings to the JLA forum enter into the nntp propagation via the RR
newsserver running highwinds software twister in the southeastern.rr.com
family and the headers are stamped with the forum software User-Agent:
newsSync (JLA FORUMS)


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Mike Easter

Blinky the Shark

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:21:40 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> You are now posting 'regurgitations' of your previous messages
>
>> Isn't he using some crappy web interface? Check headers.
>
> I don't have the whole picture.
>
> Previously ~ Jul 31 those posts were coming from a comcast user in/near
> Harristown PA via OE and comcast news. eg 68.80.200.48 rDNS
> pcp08545298pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net
>
> Currently those 'samely' edited including cites and sigs are coming from
> a RR user in/near Raleigh NC via the RR newsserver and an agent saying
> newsSync JLA forums which is at

Yeah, that one.

Mike Easter

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:29:57 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:

> Previously ~ Jul 31 those posts were coming from a comcast user
> in/near Harristown PA via OE and comcast news. eg 68.80.200.48 rDNS
> pcp08545298pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net
>
> Currently those 'samely' edited including cites and sigs are coming
> from

... from a registrant to the JLA forums who sez s/he is from
'Philaburbia', and the posts to JLA are injected into the NNTP
propagation by the IP of jlaforums.com which is 71.65.228.39 -- so that
the propagation from the forum appears to be...

> a RR user in/near Raleigh NC via the RR newsserver and an agent
> saying newsSync JLA forums which is at
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=62 eg 71.65.228.39 rDNS
> cpe-071-065-228-039.nc.res.rr.com
>
> That forum carries this group.

You can't derive the IP address of the registrant posting to the JLA
forums from the forum post itself.

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Mike Easter

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Aug 17, 2005, 5:41:38 PM8/17/05
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Mike Easter wrote:

>> Currently those 'samely' edited including cites and sigs are coming
>> from

What is going on is that the 'regurgitation' is being caused by the JLA
forums 'all by itself'. That is, the OP posted the originals to the
comcast newsserver via hir OE newsagent back on July 31 and it did
'normal' NNTP propagation. That thread also made it to the JLA forums
which carries this usenet nntp newsgroup.

The JLA forums is now 'posting' the preesi items [but not others in the
thread] all over again, as 'independent' posts, lacking any References
whch the original newsitems reflected. The forums say that preesi is a
registrant there since 2005 Apr.

This is yet another 'hazard' to the inappropriate and 'bastard'
commingling of webforum 'usenet thieves' and nntp newsgroup discussions.


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Mike Easter

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