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John

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May 10, 2010, 4:56:10 PM5/10/10
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Hello,

I just purchased a HD PC Monitor and it doesn't have any cables to
plug into the video card.

I already have a DVI cable from my broken monitor and can use that,
but I did notice that my video card has a HD to DVI adapter that I can
use. Would it be worth it to purchase a HD cable to plug from my
monitor into the adapter? Meaning can I get HD without the HD adapter
and just the DVI cable?

Will it look much way better if I use the HD adapter?

I run my sound through my sound card and external speakers and not the
monitor speakers.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Grinder

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May 10, 2010, 5:41:26 PM5/10/10
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The only advantage I know in using HDMI over DVI is that HDMI *can*
carry the audio lines as well. I don't know if that's the case for you,
or if that's even advantageous. My sense is that using the DVI cable
will be sufficient.

chuckcar

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May 10, 2010, 5:43:22 PM5/10/10
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John <ste...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:2hsgu51iv46a23clh...@4ax.com:

That's *not* a computer monitor. That's your problem. Computer monitors
haven't had speakers for decades. Not since EGA was replaced by VGA. You
can use it, but you may have problems with higher resolutions - over
1000 pixels across. which is pretty low for computer monitors. It's
quite possible to blow your monitor by using resolutions it doesn't
support as well.


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John

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May 10, 2010, 5:51:29 PM5/10/10
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>That's *not* a computer monitor. That's your problem. Computer monitors
>haven't had speakers for decades. Not since EGA was replaced by VGA. You
>can use it, but you may have problems with higher resolutions - over
>1000 pixels across. which is pretty low for computer monitors. It's
>quite possible to blow your monitor by using resolutions it doesn't
>support as well.

Actually, a lot of newer good brands/models have cheap speaks on the
side of the LCD.

They speakers are no good, but some still put them there on HD LCD's.


Mike Easter

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May 10, 2010, 5:51:41 PM5/10/10
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John wrote:

> I just purchased a HD PC Monitor and it doesn't have any cables to
> plug into the video card.

This would have been an appropriate place to define what kind/s of
connections the monitor and video card have. The most commmon is VGA.

I have never purchased a monitor which did not come with a VGA cable.

Perhaps you failed to remark that the monitor *did* come with a cable;
and perhaps you also failed to remark that you have a cable, it just
doesn't match your video card.

Study the following wiki articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector VGA connector
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface Digital Visual
Interface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Definition_Multimedia_Interface HDMI

> I already have a DVI cable from my broken monitor and can use that,
> but I did notice that my video card has a HD to DVI adapter that I can
> use. Would it be worth it to purchase a HD cable to plug from my
> monitor into the adapter? Meaning can I get HD without the HD adapter
> and just the DVI cable?

When you come back, tell us exactly what monitor you have and exactly
what vid card you have. Brand and modelno.


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joevan

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May 10, 2010, 5:52:22 PM5/10/10
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:43:22 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <ch...@nil.car>
wrote:

?

wisdomkiller & pain

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May 10, 2010, 6:19:00 PM5/10/10
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John wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just purchased a HD PC Monitor and it doesn't have any cables to
> plug into the video card.
>
> I already have a DVI cable from my broken monitor and can use that,
> but I did notice that my video card has a HD to DVI adapter that I can
> use. Would it be worth it to purchase a HD cable to plug from my
> monitor into the adapter? Meaning can I get HD without the HD adapter
> and just the DVI cable?
>

DVI even allows higher resolution/pixels than hdmi is made for.



> Will it look much way better if I use the HD adapter?
>

The hdmi cable may be thinner.



> I run my sound through my sound card and external speakers and not the
> monitor speakers.
>

Use the dvi cable, in particular since they charge 3d-fantasy fees for the
hdmi cables.

chuckcar

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May 10, 2010, 6:42:04 PM5/10/10
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John <ste...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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Did you *read* my post? It's *not* a computer monitor. There are *major*
differences.

thund3rstruck

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May 10, 2010, 6:51:55 PM5/10/10
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chuckcar wrote:

> That's *not* a computer monitor. That's your problem. Computer monitors
> haven't had speakers for decades. Not since EGA was replaced by VGA. You
> can use it, but you may have problems with higher resolutions - over
> 1000 pixels across. which is pretty low for computer monitors. It's
> quite possible to blow your monitor by using resolutions it doesn't
> support as well.

Incorrect

http://www.nextag.com/computer-flat-monitor-with-speakers/products-html

n0i

chuckcar

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May 10, 2010, 7:09:22 PM5/10/10
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thund3rstruck <thund3rstruck_n0i@live> wrote in
news:496b1$4be88e0d$4a533956$14...@FUSE.NET:

Nonsence. A simple web search can not disproove that point. Computers
sound cards require powered speakers and/or a preamp for the sound to be
heard. Completely different than a TV set.

Aardvark

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May 10, 2010, 7:33:43 PM5/10/10
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:51:29 -0700, John wrote:

> Actually, a lot of newer good brands/models have cheap speaks on the
> side of the LCD.
>

Remember who you're talking to, here.



> They speakers are no good, but some still put them there on HD LCD's.

This here Viglen TFT monitor I'm staring at has built-in stereo speakers.
I use them connected to the sound card on my secondary machine on this KVM.

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Aardvark

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May 10, 2010, 7:42:33 PM5/10/10
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 23:09:22 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> Nonsence

WTF??? You insist on writing nonsense posts using nonsense words.

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rf

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May 10, 2010, 8:53:21 PM5/10/10
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"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
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> Computer monitors
> haven't had speakers for decades. Not since EGA was replaced by VGA.

Then how do you explain this, you moron:
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=computer+monitor+with+speakers&fp=ee2f5f94750842e8


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thund3rstruck

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May 10, 2010, 9:11:55 PM5/10/10
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If you don't want to believe what's in that link, you're more than
welcome to. It doesn't change reality at all...

n0i

Oldus Fartus

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May 10, 2010, 10:15:20 PM5/10/10
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Where do you get this stuff?

In easy reach of where I sit I have a HP2009M, and a Viewsonic 2323wm
both of which have built in speakers and both of which are computer
monitors.

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Grinder

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May 10, 2010, 10:17:26 PM5/10/10
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What about this item:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236047

Is that a computer monitor?

If not, what are the *major* differences between it and a true computer
monitor?

chuckcar

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May 10, 2010, 10:30:48 PM5/10/10
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Oldus Fartus <deni...@westozNOSPAMcomputers.com> wrote in
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And has nothing to do with the OP, so is irrelevant.

chuckcar

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May 10, 2010, 10:30:51 PM5/10/10
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Grinder <gri...@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in
news:L9udna6dp-nbI3XW...@mchsi.com:

Look, none of this is relevent to the OP. Which *was* a TV display and
*not* a computer monitor. That's why it *didn't* have a VGA connector.

Meat Plow

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May 10, 2010, 10:37:28 PM5/10/10
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It's very relevant when you so blatantly state in error that "Computer

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Oldus Fartus

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May 11, 2010, 12:24:09 AM5/11/10
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It has everything to do with your statement that "computer monitors

haven't had speakers for decades. Not since EGA was replaced by VGA."

Clearly, you were mistaken.

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Oldus Fartus

Grinder

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May 11, 2010, 1:29:39 AM5/11/10
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So far I see that John indicates his monitor (computer or otherwise) has
DVI and HD (presumably HDMI) ports. Have you seen some other more
specific description?

At any rate, is the inclusion of a VGA connector one of those *major*
differences that you've failed to elucidate?

What about this device:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001209

It has no VGA connector. TV, computer monitor, or something else?

nobody >

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May 11, 2010, 2:37:01 AM5/11/10
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Phunny; I remember MANY models of VGA CRT models with side-mount speakers...

It's obvious you haven't been around some of the new LCD offerings.
I just brought ans ASUS VH222 H-p.
Onboard hidden (behind the screen) speakers, DB15 VGA in, DVIin, HDmi
In. Speakers are great in mid and high end, just lacking in base.

LSC monitors don't have the over-res/overscan issue, they don't blow up,
the screen just acts weird. Depending on the model., it may downconvert
the signal to a useable resolution.

Explain your way out of this one .. Chuckyourass..

nobody >

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May 11, 2010, 2:38:52 AM5/11/10
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My *COMPUTER* monitor does HDMI from the cablebox just fine.

nobody >

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May 11, 2010, 2:43:05 AM5/11/10
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Yah know. eh.. Chuckiepoo, that *YOU* are the reason people derogatorily
refer to Canadians as "Cheeseheads". (and apologies to the rest of you
Canadians, unless you drive like the fair number of the ones we see on
the south side of the BC/WA line.)

nobody >

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May 11, 2010, 2:46:44 AM5/11/10
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Meat Plow wrote:

> On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:43:22 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> John <ste...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> news:2hsgu51iv46a23clh...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just purchased a HD PC Monitor and it doesn't have any cables to plug
>>> into the video card.
>>>
>>> I already have a DVI cable from my broken monitor and can use that, but
>>> I did notice that my video card has a HD to DVI adapter that I can use.
>>> Would it be worth it to purchase a HD cable to plug from my monitor
>>> into the adapter? Meaning can I get HD without the HD adapter and just
>>> the DVI cable?
>>>
>>> Will it look much way better if I use the HD adapter?
>>>
>>> I run my sound through my sound card and external speakers and not the
>>> monitor speakers.
>>>
>> That's *not* a computer monitor. That's your problem. Computer monitors
>> haven't had speakers for decades.
>
> http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=QC3Ie0INJMD9PlEP
>
> .One of MANY new computer monitors that have speakers.
>
> .VH222H-P
> .Personal Entertainment on Desk
> .The Smallest Full HD 1080p LCD Monitor Impresses Your Eyes
>
> .21.5” 16:9 widescreen with 1920×1080 resolution enables borderless
> ‧ Full HD 1080p full-screen video display.
> ‧ Embedded HDMI simplifies cabling and provides pristine and stunning
> ‧ clarity multimedia experience together with PC, game consoles, Blu-ray
> ‧ Disc players, etc.
> ‧ Built-in hidden stereo speakers and SPDIF audio output enable audio
> ‧ enjoyment together with true-to-life Full HD visual.

That's my exact monitor! And ALL of the above work excellently. The
only thing lacking is a dedicated subwoofer to round out the package.

Meat Plow

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May 11, 2010, 9:57:00 AM5/11/10
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My monitor is either an LG L222WT or an Olevia 32" HDTV with VGA and
audio inputs among HDMI, composite, component and a zillion other inputs.
I use it on this Toshiba 1905 laptop with linux on it. My eyes ain't that
great these days and it's perfect for bigger fonts than the 4:3 screen on
the laptop. I use the LG L222WT on my Win 7 desktop which is set to
1440x900 (same aspect ratio as the native 1680x1050.) Not to easy to see
for me reclining back in my chair at that high of a resolution. I have
the Olevia setup with a sub woofer, the sound from the built in speakers
is very thin without it but they do provide great stereo spatialization.

Aardvark

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May 11, 2010, 2:34:03 PM5/11/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:15:20 +0800, Oldus Fartus wrote:

> In easy reach of where I sit I have a HP2009M, and a Viewsonic 2323wm
> both of which have built in speakers and both of which are computer
> monitors.

Nah!!!!! Can't be!!!!!

Aardvark

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May 11, 2010, 2:37:54 PM5/11/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 02:30:51 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> Look, none of this is relevent to the OP. Which *was* a TV display and
> *not* a computer monitor.

"I just purchased a HD PC Monitor"

Yeah. Right.

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chuckcar

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May 12, 2010, 12:20:01 AM5/12/10
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"nobody >" <useneth...@aol.com> wrote in
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And it displays the *exact* model of said monitor in device manager and
autodetects it as such when you remove it? The examples I've seen so far
have top resolutions around 1280x1024. That's low for current monitors
and video cards. Barely above HDTV.

nobody >

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May 12, 2010, 12:42:07 AM5/12/10
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Yup, IDs as an ASUS VH222. Autodetects just fine.

Read the specs at http://usa.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=VH222H-P
Native resolution 1920X1080.

Now kindly find your asshole and crawl up into it until you disappear.

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