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Alasdair

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Mar 16, 2010, 7:10:41 PM3/16/10
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I would like to make a clone of my C:\ drive which is my booting drive
so that, in the event of it failing, I can just swap it for the clone
and start again. I would like to use Norton Ghost 2003.

Please, how do I go about this? I have been told there could be a
problem as the source drive is being used.

Alasdair.

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philo

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Mar 16, 2010, 7:23:07 PM3/16/10
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cloning software works in such a way that the clone is performed upon
reboot...and prior to the OS loading

Anyolmouse

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Mar 16, 2010, 9:13:20 PM3/16/10
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"Alasdair" <ma...@bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message
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I am using Norton Ghost 2000 (I think) running Win ME with two
partitioned drives. I routinely image the C: partition to the other
drive with no problems. But, I run Ghost from a floppy, not direct from
the C: drive partition. You should be able to create a CD to do the same
thing from the Ghost program.

--
We have met the enemy and he is us-- Pogo

Anyolmouse


olfart

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Mar 16, 2010, 8:17:11 PM3/16/10
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"philo" <ph...@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
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unless you use Casper
www.fsdev.com
check it out....been using it for years with good results


LSMFT

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Mar 16, 2010, 8:24:06 PM3/16/10
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Alasdair wrote:

You should get Clonezilla live CD. You're right, you can't
backup a mounted partition. You need a live CD and the target
hard drive must be equal or larger than the source.

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LSMFT

responder

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Mar 16, 2010, 9:59:37 PM3/16/10
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I was a beta tester for them to tell you how long I have been
successfully using it..

I have 2 HDD in all of my machines,except notebook, and I simply clone
to the backup drive which importantly is also bootable..

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LSMFT

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Mar 17, 2010, 9:25:08 AM3/17/10
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Evan Platt wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:24:06 -0400, LSMFT <bol...@aol.com>
wrote:


>
>>
>>Alasdair wrote:
>>
>>You should get Clonezilla live CD. You're right, you can't
>>backup a mounted partition. You need a live CD and the
target
>>hard drive must be equal or larger than the source.
>

> No, Alasdair didn't write that.
>
> To properly quote, you want to put your text BELOW text you
are
> quoting. The way you replied, it's impossible to tell the
difference
> between what you wrote and what you quoted.

You had no trouble.
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LSMFT

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 10:44:33 AM3/17/10
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It took me a while to work out who said what and who was saying what. I
had to find the post to which you were replying just to make sure.

Dope.

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your pants because that's where your asshole happens to be.

Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 10:47:29 AM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:21:09 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:25:08 -0400, LSMFT <bol...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>You had no trouble.
>
> If you want to learn to use usenet properly, listen to advice. If you
> want to end up getting killfiled by the regulars, don't.

"@aol.com". Welcome to the Eternal September, Evan.

:-)

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 11:12:04 AM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:02:16 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:

> Acrojis

Ooopsie!

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 11:49:33 AM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:37:35 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:12:04 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark
> <aard...@youllnever.know>wrote:


>
>>On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:02:16 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:
>>
>>> Acrojis
>>
>>Ooopsie!
>

> Obviously you've never heard of Acrojis.

Is the 'j' pronounced as in Spanish or in English?

:-)

Just reminds me. I was on a web forum somewhere the other night and
spotted the details of someone's avatar. At first glance, it looks like a
Windows XP logo, with the little flag waving and the black background,
only in this case the flag is that of Mexico and it was called 'Guindows
MX'. I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

I just found it here:

< http://www.corysback.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/guindows.jpg >

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 12:05:02 PM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:38 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:

>>< http://www.corysback.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/guindows.jpg
>>>
>
> LOL you could use something like Bootskin to change your XP boot logo to
> that.

I don't have an XP boot logo. :-)

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 1:12:04 PM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:09:26 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark
> <aard...@youllnever.know>wrote:
>

>>On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:38 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:
>>
>>>><
>>>>http://www.corysback.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/guindows.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> LOL you could use something like Bootskin to change your XP boot logo
>>> to that.
>>
>>I don't have an XP boot logo. :-)
>

> I meany 'your' in general.

You're forgiven.

olfart

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Mar 17, 2010, 2:41:38 PM3/17/10
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"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:09:26 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC), Aardvark
>> <aard...@youllnever.know>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:38 -0400, Meat Plow wrote:
>>>
>>>>><
>>>>>http://www.corysback.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/guindows.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> LOL you could use something like Bootskin to change your XP boot logo
>>>> to that.
>>>
>>>I don't have an XP boot logo. :-)
>>
>> I meany 'your' in general.
>
> You're forgiven.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> --
Why don't you two get a room


LSMFT

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Mar 17, 2010, 2:57:11 PM3/17/10
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Evan Platt wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:25:08 -0400, LSMFT<bol...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> You had no trouble.
>
> If you want to learn to use usenet properly, listen to advice. If you
> want to end up getting killfiled by the regulars, don't.

I usually don't. I think people are manipulating the replies.

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LSMFT

Drive slower than the posted speed.............................
And you too can become a fracking prick..............

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Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 3:05:33 PM3/17/10
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> Why don't you two get a room

Ah! If only!

Aardvark

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Mar 17, 2010, 3:08:16 PM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:57:11 -0400, LSMFT wrote:

> Evan Platt wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:25:08 -0400, LSMFT<bol...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You had no trouble.
>>
>> If you want to learn to use usenet properly, listen to advice. If you
>> want to end up getting killfiled by the regulars, don't.
>
> I usually don't. I think people are manipulating the replies.

Prepare to enter multiple kill files, then.

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chuckcar

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Mar 18, 2010, 9:49:46 PM3/18/10
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Alasdair <ma...@bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in
news:0n30q5hfugfmr7bg6...@4ax.com:

> I would like to make a clone of my C:\ drive which is my booting drive
> so that, in the event of it failing, I can just swap it for the clone
> and start again. I would like to use Norton Ghost 2003.
>
> Please, how do I go about this? I have been told there could be a
> problem as the source drive is being used.
>

And your operating system is? Without knowing that we can say nothing as
to whether or not you have to use the *exact* same model of hard drive
or not, how and when to *do* your "backup" (although a clone is a sorry
excuse for one). The fact of the matter is that if you're using windows
2000 or any of the earlier nt versions you *have* to use the same model
hard drive. If you're using linux, you just run a file copy (preserving
links) on / (excluding external drives/devices). Any hardware that linux
needs to boot with doesn't need to be configured. You can't change
motherboards and processor types - x86 to SUN Sparc for example, but
everything else doesn't matter. If you're running XP or some replacement
for it, you have a CDwritter almost certainly. Something that you can
write your documents to and only require you keep your original install
CD's somewhere safe. Something you've done of course right?

How do you know if the image you're taking is completely clean, free
from *any* malware or windows corruption? Answer: you don't, not unless
you checked windows as *soon* as it booted the first time to see if
*all* programs started properly, device manager had no driver conflicts
and you disabled *everything* in startup. Did you?

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(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

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Aardvark

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Mar 18, 2010, 10:50:38 PM3/18/10
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:49:46 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> CDwritter

WTF?????????????

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~BD~

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Aardvark wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:49:46 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> CDwritter
>
> WTF?????????????
>
>
>

At least you stay sharp in the middle of the night!

So, when *do* you sleep?

--
Dave

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~BD~

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Mar 19, 2010, 11:24:06 AM3/19/10
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Evan Platt wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:03:35 +0000, ~BD~<.Boate...@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> So, when *do* you sleep?
>
> Damnit, quit nymshifting, idiot. Stay in my killfile.


Aardvark will explain how to improve your skill!

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:11:45 PM3/19/10
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Alasdair wrote:

> I would like to make a clone of my C:\ drive which is my booting drive
> so that, in the event of it failing, I can just swap it for the clone
> and start again. I would like to use Norton Ghost 2003.
>
> Please, how do I go about this? I have been told there could be a
> problem as the source drive is being used.
>

> Alasdair.

Put both drives into PC and boot
with a liveCD like Ubuntu, knoppix, SystemRescueCD etc,
open a console window and just type dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sbb bs=1M

google for exact usage of the dd command and what all the parameters mean.

You can also use the dd command to back up SDcards as a file to hard disk,
and flash drives to small drives as a file to a big hard disk.
These days 2Tb cost below $200, so you can use the big drive to back
up other drives more cheaply than buying other types of storage media (!)

~BD~

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:40:45 PM3/19/10
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Evan Platt wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:24:06 +0000, ~BD~<Boate...@hot.mail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Aardvark will explain how to improve your skill!
>
> You were just a slightly annoying spammer, now you've really become a
> ass.
>
> Enjoy the spam, spammer Boate...@hotmail.co.uk .
>
> And replonk. This time I hope for good.

You too, Evan!

ev...@espphotography.com

You actually responded to my email .......

...... and you call Richard stupid!


--
Dave - sorry, I'm not usually spiteful.

chuckcar

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Mar 19, 2010, 7:01:37 PM3/19/10
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Meat Plow wrote in news:3jskm3....@news.alt.net:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:49:46 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar
> <ch...@nil.car>wrote:


>
>>And your operating system is? Without knowing that we can say nothing
>>as to whether or not you have to use the *exact* same model of hard
>>drive or not, how and when to *do* your "backup" (although a clone is
>>a sorry excuse for one).
>

> HUH? cloning software which needs exclusive control over disks cannot
> be run within an operating system that itself has exclusive control
> over disks. This means it must run within a shell designed
> specifically for the cloning software. Also means the operating system
> on the source drive is of no consequence unless you are dealing with
> Linux, BSD, MAC, etc.. then you would need something like Server Magic
> that still runs in its own shell but understands file system better.
> Maybe the Newest Acronis also serves these systems too I don't know.
>
> As far as a clone is concerned it is the BEST backup you could have.
> As in a SATA RAID 1 with a hot spare. Or even a cloned drive removed
> from the PC and stuck on the shelf until it's needed or recloned after
> major additions to the operating system.
>
Nope. Disagree for the reasons I gave. More things can be wrong with the
backup itself. As many as a OS installation obviously. What you want to
avoid in having reliable backups.

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chuckcar

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Mar 20, 2010, 1:26:16 PM3/20/10
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Meat Plow wrote in news:3jv3t1....@news.alt.net:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:01:37 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar

> HUH? I was trying to give you a chance to be logical for once but
> jesus fuck you make it awful hard.
>
> I've been at this game as a source of my mainstay income for a dozen
> years chuck-tard. Nobody's perfect and me far from it but there are
> certain things that have been proven in the field and this is part of
> one stratagy that has a high level of fault tolerance. I guess the
> difference is you base your stratagy on a home PC while mine is based
> on a proven business approach.
>
Well if you do it in a manner very close to what I mentioned earlier, I
don't see the disagreement myself. You never said either way. I assumed
you *didn't* by your reply to my post.

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