Will a machine boot up with a flash drive?
horse
where the little progess bar thing shows up, then locks up.
I have downloaded a purchased copy of windows vista ultimate to try to boot
the machine with. But can't burn the 4gig file onto a single cd.
So if I put the file onto a flash drive, will the machine recognize the
file that way and hopefully load the OS onto the machine?
chuckcar
news:15tx3t11ff6jy$.viaf45x2b1cn$.d...@40tude.net:
> I have a machine that refuses to boot up. It gets just beyond the part
> where the little progess bar thing shows up, then locks up.
Good description. Can you be any more vague?
Really, the operating system *what's* scrolling and why we simply need
to know. You also use the term "locks up". The keyboard is *always*
unusable when MS windows is loading with one exception: the <esc> key.
So if it never loaded, how did you know the keyboard no longer worked?
> I have downloaded a purchased copy of windows vista ultimate
Once again in english? That's a contradiction in terms.
> to try to
> boot the machine with. But can't burn the 4gig file onto a single cd.
So you got a torrent. why not just *say* so? Have you scanned it to make
sure it's legit and not malware?
> So if I put the file onto a flash drive, will the machine recognize
> the file that way and hopefully load the OS onto the machine?
No, you have to extract it to whatever you write it to. Directories and
all.
Have you never *used* torrents before?
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horse
Have you ever used that thing between the ears called a brain? No dumbfuck,
it is definitely not a torrent file, which I know all about, and I do not
feel it necessary to disclose where it was purchased, legally.
FYI, I use a usb keyboard and it is recognized before windows fully boots.
Along with my wireless usb mouse.
So if the usb ports are fully functional before windows boots, then it
should be possible to boot up from a flash drive, just as you can with a
CD. Sow how do you do that? Nothing in BIOS allows me to make the boot up
change to a usb port that I can see.
Meat Plow
Desk Rabbit
> I have a machine that refuses to boot up. It gets just beyond the part
> where the little progess bar thing shows up, then locks up.
And this unnamed operating system is???
> I have downloaded a purchased copy of windows vista ultimate to try to boot
> the machine with. But can't burn the 4gig file onto a single cd.
If you thought you could fit 4gig on to a CD, you haven't got a hope in
hell of fixing your PC. Take it to someone who knows what they are doing
and if you are dumb enough to go a buy another operating system to fix a
broken one, then they are going to love dealing with you.
Desk Rabbit
> horse<ho...@wild.man> wrote in
> news:15tx3t11ff6jy$.viaf45x2b1cn$.d...@40tude.net:
>
>> I have a machine that refuses to boot up. It gets just beyond the part
>> where the little progess bar thing shows up, then locks up.
>
> Good description. Can you be any more vague?
>
> Really, the operating system *what's* scrolling and why we simply need
> to know. You also use the term "locks up". The keyboard is *always*
> unusable when MS windows is loading with one exception: the<esc> key.
Where do you get this wrong information from? Do you just make it up as
you go along?
Mike Yetto
>Nothing in BIOS allows me to make the boot up change to a usb
>port that I can see.
Well, there's your problem.
Mike "a Windows Live CD, interesting" Yetto
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Whiskers
Why will this mystery machine not 'boot'? Why do you suppose that it
would boot from an external drive? Why do you expect a new un-installed
un-configured operating system on the external drive to make it boot? Why
Windows Vista Ultimate in particular? Why haven't you got the Microsoft
installation media and instructions?
Presumably the mystery machine /is/ some sort of computer ...
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Mike Easter
> I have a machine that refuses to boot up. It gets just beyond the part
> where the little progess bar thing shows up, then locks up.
Notice that you didn't say what operating system isn't booting. We
should assume that it is some version of Windows, perhaps Vista. I
suppose we should further assume that whatever OS it is, you somehow
didn't have its install or recovery media -- none of which you describe,
but you leave us to guess at based on your next sentences.
> I have downloaded a purchased copy of windows vista ultimate to try to boot
> the machine with.
Next you start to imply how the machine is equipped in terms of optical
drive (presumably it has a CD-ROM, but can't read a DVD -- or perhaps it
can read a DVD but you can't burn a DVD -- or perhaps a lot of things
which you failed to define.
> But can't burn the 4gig file onto a single cd.
We are supposed to use this information to divine all kinds of things
which you failed to describe properly?
> So if I put the file onto a flash drive, will the machine recognize the
> file that way and hopefully load the OS onto the machine?
I have machines which have no option to boot from the USB. I have other
machines which have options to boot from the USB if the USB is 'defined'
as a floppy or a zip or a cdrom, but not if the usb is configured as a
hdd, which is the usual situation, and that machine will not boot
directly from the USB even if the usb is configured as one of those
devices, so I have to use a combination of cdrom and USB to boot from
the USB.
I have other machines which boot from the USB just fine, having 'burned'
a DVD sized .iso to the USB.
The other information you failed to mention is what is the purpose of
booting this USB with Vista on it.
Are you trying to repair your hdd install? Are you trying to recover
data from your hdd? Is it your intention to blast the other OS off and
install Vista with your allegedly legal download?
Why don't you back up and say -1- what kind of hardware you have -2-
what kind of OS you have installed that doesn't boot -3- what you are
trying to do next if you can somehow boot this Vista you downloaded
From my perspective, this sounds like a job for Hiren's boot CD or
something similar, not a 'downloaded Vista' DVD .iso.
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Mike Easter
> So if the usb ports are fully functional before windows boots, then it
> should be possible to boot up from a flash drive, just as you can with a
> CD. Sow how do you do that? Nothing in BIOS allows me to make the boot up
> change to a usb port that I can see.
If your machine's BIOS will not permit booting from the USB, you can do
it another way, such as using the PLOP boot manager.
You can put/burn the PLOP onto a CD and copy the bigger .iso onto a USB
-- then you can configure the BIOS to boot from the CD and then use the
PLOP to boot from the USB.
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html USB boot without BIOS support
There are plenty of sites to tell you how to make a bootable USB from
your downloaded .iso.
http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm How To Boot From A USB Flash Drive
http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedia/2004/10/utility-to-make-usb-flash-driv.html
Utility to make USB flash drives bootable
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Mike Easter
Mike Easter
This certainly does look like richard's handwriting.
So, shall we assume that the untold story here is...
You have a machine with a Vista install which won't boot. The machine
came with a factory install and a recovery partition, but you never made
any recovery disks for it, so you have no installation/recovery disk.
Your idea is that if you boot from a Vista install disk, you will be
able to repair your Vista install. Accordingly, you downloaded an .iso
for a Vista DVD, which downloads are plentiful, as most do not contain
cracks, but leave the problem of the licensing and WGA (or cracking) up
to the downloader.
But you lack the hardware to burn a DVD or else the machine in question
can't read a DVD or both and so you are considering booting the install
DVD .iso up from the USB but you are unfamiliar with that, and your
interpretation of your BIOS setup is that the machine in question can't
boot from the USB.
See the previous links to do the following:
- make a bootable USB from the DVD .iso
- make a bootable PLOP CD boot manager
- boot from the CD to boot from the flash
Now what are you going to do?
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Tony
stick by changing the bios so the computer will boot from the usb stick. Just
try here and hopefully everything will work out.
http://hotfile.com/dl/59529178/0291abf/Bootable_USB.rar.html
Ps chuckcar has been giving people bumsteers on this newsgroup for years.
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> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:54:36 -0700, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> This certainly does look like richard's handwriting.
>
STALK!
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out of the computer except the power supply and *one* stick of ram.
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chuckcar
news:oc81a69idoq6c153o...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 05:37:03 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <ch...@nil.car>
> wrote:
>
>>Really, the operating system *what's* scrolling and why we simply need
>>to know. You also use the term "locks up". The keyboard is *always*
>>unusable when MS windows is loading with one exception: the <esc> key.
>>So if it never loaded, how did you know the keyboard no longer worked?
>
> Funny, how then would one use F8 to boot into safe mode if the
> keyboard is *always* unusable while Windows is loading?
>
Because windows isn't even *starting* to load at that point? That's
precisely why you *can* use the startup menu at all.
chuckcar
news:slrn201009270752...@may.eternal-september.org:
> horse <ho...@wild.man> writes and having writ moves on.
>>Nothing in BIOS allows me to make the boot up change to a usb
>>port that I can see.
>
> Well, there's your problem.
>
> Mike "a Windows Live CD, interesting" Yetto
It's called living a plastic life. <g>
Desk Rabbit
chuckcar
news:i7qils$h9l$1...@deskrabbit.motzarella.org:
You find out. The last thing I'm here for is to educate *you* about
computers. The term is boot process.
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
news:Xns9E00C15...@127.0.0.1...
Because there is no way *you* possibly can.
Desk Rabbit
magical process captures that key stroke (Must be magic because
according to you the keyboard is disabled) and then fires up the Windows
alternate startup menu.
You really do make shit up don't you?
Desk Rabbit
And once again outed as the complete idiot he is, chuckcar disappears up
his own IRQ.
Meat Plow
Heh... what notices the F8 keystroke is the bootloader. I'm fairly
certain it has nothing to do with the windows kernel. If it does I'd
appreciate some further edumucation.