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Dr.Dan

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Oct 18, 2010, 12:12:06 AM10/18/10
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I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive partitioned. Half as the
c and the other half as the d drive. For me thats fine, I will keep an eye
on things and manage where data goes and that kind of thing. But my
daughter just bought a win 7 64 bit laptop and it came partitioned c, d and
e. The d partition is for recovery data. Thing is she would never manage
the drives. If the c drive filled up she would not know to go to the next
partition.
So my questions are why do the manufacturers do this, is there a practical
reason? Should I resize the c partition on her machine to eliminate the e
drive? Thanks for your help.
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Desk Rabbit

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Oct 18, 2010, 4:18:59 AM10/18/10
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Far better to teach her how to manage her data storage properly, I mean
it's not rocket science and I assume she knows how to store other items
correctly?

chuckcar

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Oct 18, 2010, 11:23:00 AM10/18/10
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"Dr.Dan" <nospam.com> wrote in
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> I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive partitioned. Half
> as the c and the other half as the d drive. For me thats fine, I will
> keep an eye on things and manage where data goes and that kind of
> thing. But my daughter just bought a win 7 64 bit laptop and it came
> partitioned c, d and e. The d partition is for recovery data. Thing is
> she would never manage the drives. If the c drive filled up she would
> not know to go to the next partition.

That's what backups are for. A hard drive is *never* a vaild backup
device.

> So my questions are why do the manufacturers do this, is there a
> practical reason? Should I resize the c partition on her machine to
> eliminate the e drive? Thanks for your help.

Do that and she'll have problems. Bad ones. However, the one question I
do have is what *physical* drives are C: D: and E: *on*?

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Desk Rabbit

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Oct 18, 2010, 11:52:59 AM10/18/10
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On 18/10/2010 16:23, chuckcar wrote:
> "Dr.Dan"<nospam.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9E1520C...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive partitioned. Half
>> as the c and the other half as the d drive. For me thats fine, I will
>> keep an eye on things and manage where data goes and that kind of
>> thing. But my daughter just bought a win 7 64 bit laptop and it came
>> partitioned c, d and e. The d partition is for recovery data. Thing is
>> she would never manage the drives. If the c drive filled up she would
>> not know to go to the next partition.
>
> That's what backups are for. A hard drive is *never* a vaild backup
> device.

Good old chucktard, answering a different question.


>
>> So my questions are why do the manufacturers do this, is there a
>> practical reason? Should I resize the c partition on her machine to
>> eliminate the e drive? Thanks for your help.
>
> Do that and she'll have problems. Bad ones. However, the one question I
> do have is what *physical* drives are C: D: and E: *on*?
>

How many laptops have you seen with more than one hard drive?

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Meat Plow

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Oct 18, 2010, 1:03:19 PM10/18/10
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Inform your daughter of the D partition and leave the drive alone.

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Meat Plow

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Oct 18, 2010, 1:44:05 PM10/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:23:00 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> "Dr.Dan" <nospam.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9E1520C...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive partitioned. Half as
>> the c and the other half as the d drive. For me thats fine, I will keep
>> an eye on things and manage where data goes and that kind of thing. But
>> my daughter just bought a win 7 64 bit laptop and it came partitioned
>> c, d and e. The d partition is for recovery data. Thing is she would
>> never manage the drives. If the c drive filled up she would not know to
>> go to the next partition.
>
> That's what backups are for. A hard drive is *never* a vaild backup
> device.

What is your preferred *vaild* 'backup device' for me? I want to backup
about 500 gigabytes of data. I don't have a lot of money.

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§ñühw¤£f

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Oct 18, 2010, 3:41:29 PM10/18/10
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External drives dont count?

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chuckcar

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Oct 18, 2010, 5:01:06 PM10/18/10
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Meat Plow <mhy...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Then you've got a problem. Either with your lifestyle Arthur, or with
what you're deciding to include. Time to put a Dent in that number.

freemont

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Oct 18, 2010, 5:50:58 PM10/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:23:00 +0000, chuckcar writ:

Ummm... probably the one inside the laptop, Chuck.
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thanatoid

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Oct 18, 2010, 6:28:57 PM10/18/10
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John Morrison <the_mo...@com.invalid> wrote in
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> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 23:12:06 -0500, "Dr.Dan" <nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive
>>partitioned. Half as the c and the other half as the d
>>drive. For me thats fine, I will keep an eye on things and
>>manage where data goes and that kind of thing.
>

> I also have win 7 64 bit which came with only C: drive,
> which I formatted into C: D: E:
>
> I always install the OS to C: then programs to D: and music
> to E:

<snip>

"Programs" to D, huh? The /usual/ programs you think you need,
like Office? Or old-style well-written utilities which do not
install anything anywhere else besides their own directory
(sorry, folder) and do not write anything to the registry?

Didn't think so.

I'd /love/ to see how your system works after you have to
reformat and reinstall Windows.

Yes, it WILL happen.


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Meat Plow

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Oct 18, 2010, 6:30:15 PM10/18/10
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Ahhh OK. So I can't backup 500 GB?

Problem is all my data is A/V which in raw format notoriously consumes
gigabytes like you consume liquor. But I cannot delete the raw A/V files
because they all represent works in progress.

Are you sure there isn't a low cost solution for backing up my data? I
thought a 1 TB eSATA drive might be a *vaild* solution since it would not
be powered up except when processing a backup.

It would seem (at least to me) that a live copy plus one on non-spinning
media would give me enough redundancy since the chances of both failing
are pretty much non-existent.

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Meat Plow

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:02:08 PM10/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:40:53 -0400, Bill wrote:

> Honestly? In your business, the pros generally feel that unless you have
> something stored in at least three places, it doesn't really exist. At
> least one of the three places has to be another physical location. You
> don't want to be wiped out by fire, flood or theft.
>
> One backup is certainly far better than none, but I wouldn't consider
> the material very secure at all.

Ok well I'll purchase an eSATA and a removable, backup to both and store
the removable in my bank deposit box. Or should I make sure I have one
also in another bank in case it gets robbed or flooded or burns down?

Dr.Dan

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Oct 18, 2010, 7:04:51 PM10/18/10
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Thanks to all, my simple question seems to have raised quite a few
responses. Bucky Breeders response answered all my questions. Way back
when I was useing win 95 the advice was to partition to make things
eaisier on windows, then with xp I was told to leave everything in 1
partition. And I never saw a manufacturer partition a drive. (except a
small hidden recovery partition)Now I see it on these 2 laptops, (1 hard
drive in each) so I was wondering.
Again thanks to all.

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freemont

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Oct 18, 2010, 8:02:48 PM10/18/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:04:51 -0500, Dr.Dan writ:

They're Acers, right? Acers turn up like this a lot.

It's a smart thing to do, except nobody ever knows what to do with it.

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Desk Rabbit

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Oct 19, 2010, 4:12:09 AM10/19/10
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On 18/10/2010 20:41, ���hw��f wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 18/10/2010 16:23, chuckcar wrote:
>>> "Dr.Dan"<nospam.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9E1520C...@216.196.97.131:
>>>
>>>> I have a win 7 64 bit os which came with the drive partitioned. Half
>>>> as the c and the other half as the d drive. For me thats fine, I will
>>>> keep an eye on things and manage where data goes and that kind of
>>>> thing. But my daughter just bought a win 7 64 bit laptop and it came
>>>> partitioned c, d and e. The d partition is for recovery data. Thing is
>>>> she would never manage the drives. If the c drive filled up she would
>>>> not know to go to the next partition.
>>>
>>> That's what backups are for. A hard drive is *never* a vaild backup
>>> device.
>>
>> Good old chucktard, answering a different question.
>>>
>>>> So my questions are why do the manufacturers do this, is there a
>>>> practical reason? Should I resize the c partition on her machine to
>>>> eliminate the e drive? Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Do that and she'll have problems. Bad ones. However, the one question I
>>> do have is what *physical* drives are C: D: and E: *on*?
>>>
>>
>> How many laptops have you seen with more than one hard drive?
>
> External drives dont count?
>
In this context probably not.

Meat Plow

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Oct 19, 2010, 10:43:30 AM10/19/10
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:26:13 -0400, Bill wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:02:08 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhy...@yahoo.com>

> That depends on how much security you think is reasonable, practical,
> and necessary. Three places is just a minimum.
>
> I used to take rotating backups home, figuring my business and house
> were unlikely to both burn down at the same time.

All the business accounts I administrated before my semi-retirement in
2003 were backed up to 8 gig Travan 7 days a week, with 2 backup sets
being rotated bi-weekly. One set went home with the office manager. These
were from financial institutions (banks and credit unions) and law
offices.

thanatoid

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Oct 19, 2010, 11:34:59 AM10/19/10
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John Morrison <the_mo...@com.invalid> wrote in
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<snip>

> I honestly tried to help another person whereas your post
> didn't try to help anybody.

I wasn't trying to be helpful, I was just being an asshole.

Zu Arsschlaark!

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"Dr.Dan" <nospam.com> wrote in message
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where's 'dan c' when ya need him ..
[yep, dr.dan, you have a namesake!]

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