Is HDD crapping out (after only 4 months) or do I just need to reinstall Win7?
zxcvbob
newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
afterwards.
Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot create
a new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows Backup to an
external drive and that fails.
In each case, I look at the event log and I see HDD controller
errors; the event code is something like "missing object" I saved
an event log to the external drive in case I need it later.
CHKDSK says everything is fine.
I'm doing a Windows Easy Transfer right now, but not sure what all
it's really saving. Then will probably reinstall the OS and
transfer back whatever WET saved.
I've seen very similar errors before after I tried moving the shadow
file from drive C: to drive D: and I had to reinstall to get it
back, but that time it was because I changed some settings. This is
different.
Bob
chuckcar
news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
> afterwards.
>
> Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot create
> a new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows Backup to an
> external drive and that fails.
>
> In each case, I look at the event log and I see HDD controller
> errors; the event code is something like "missing object" I saved
> an event log to the external drive in case I need it later.
>
The exact error message is needed.
> CHKDSK says everything is fine.
>
Did you run a scan for bad blocks on the entire hard drive?
> I'm doing a Windows Easy Transfer right now, but not sure what all
> it's really saving. Then will probably reinstall the OS and
> transfer back whatever WET saved.
>
> I've seen very similar errors before after I tried moving the shadow
> file from drive C: to drive D: and I had to reinstall to get it
> back, but that time it was because I changed some settings. This is
> different.
Well, time you took back the hard drive, got a warrenty replacement and
then used your backups to restore your computer to the way it was before
this problem happened. You *do* make regular and complete backups of
your documents right?
BTW system restore will have no effect on the existance or absences any
of your own files on the computer.
--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )
zxcvbob
There are no documents on this machine. I do have a backup that I took
a couple of months ago, but there's no files I really care about on here
-- although it would be a PITA to have to reinstall all the software.
Here's a few of the errors from the top of the event log that I saved a
week ago:
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:47 AM System Restore 8211 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:47 AM System Restore 8193 None
Warning 3/13/2010 2:46:46 AM Ntfs 57 (2)
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:46 AM volsnap 14 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:46 AM VSS 12305 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:05 AM VSS 12289 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:46:04 AM volsnap 14 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:41 AM atapi 11 None
Error 3/13/2010 2:45:21 AM Service Control Manager 7016 None
Error 3/13/2010 12:32:04 AM Windows Backup 4103 None
Error 3/13/2010 12:22:03 AM Service Control Manager 7026 None
Warning 3/13/2010 12:21:11 AM WLAN-AutoConfig 4001 None
Warning 3/13/2010 12:19:07 AM RestartManager 10010 None
Error 3/13/2010 12:18:57 AM Kernel-EventTracing 2 Session
Error 3/13/2010 12:15:26 AM VSS 12305 None
Mike Easter
> In each case, I look at the event log and I see HDD controller errors;
Oh dear. That's the thing that usually dies.
That is, (sometimes) starts getting sick, then sicker and then one day
it just isn't there any more. Gone off to hdd controller heaven. It
can make you think, 'But if everything is actually all right, the disk
platter, the head, the data, why can't I just 'fix' the controller?' It
just doesn't work that way.
There are all kinds of hdd testing gizmos, some specific made by the hdd
mfr.
--
Mike Easter
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
news:Xns9D46D7C...@127.0.0.1...
>> CHKDSK says everything is fine.
>>
> Did you run a scan for bad blocks on the entire hard drive?
Sectors chucktard. They are called sectors.
chuckcar
news:812gr7...@mid.individual.net:
>> Well, time you took back the hard drive, got a warrenty replacement
>> and then used your backups to restore your computer to the way it was
>> before this problem happened. You *do* make regular and complete
>> backups of your documents right?
>>
>> BTW system restore will have no effect on the existance or absences
>> any of your own files on the computer.
>>
>
> There are no documents on this machine. I do have a backup that I
> took a couple of months ago, but there's no files I really care about
> on here -- although it would be a PITA to have to reinstall all the
> software.
>
I'm tempted to switch to RAID so I don't or have to reinstall anything
when I have a hard drive die. This 5-10 year cycle is starting to bug
me.
> Here's a few of the errors from the top of the event log that I saved
> a week ago:
>
<snip>
No actual messages I notice. Were there any? The frequency certainly
points to bad sectors on the hard drive - 11 in one second. Run a scan
on the hard drive as I mentioned above so you know if that's the
problem. Without actually running tests, there's no way to get anywhere.
Do *not* enable any writing on the scan. Just have it check if all the
sectors can all be read properly.
On the up side, it could very easily be only a cable problem. The computer
has no idea why it can't use the drive properly, I only knows it can't and
how bad it is.
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
> I'm tempted to switch to RAID so I don't or have to reinstall anything
> when I have a hard drive die. This 5-10 year cycle is starting to bug
> me.
Why is it only you that seems to be able to kill off hard drives after only
5-10 years? I for one have drives that are over 15 years old, still working
quite happily.
> bad sectors on the hard drive
Glad we got the sectors thing sorted out.
chuckcar
news:812gr7...@mid.individual.net:
> On 3/25/2010 8:16 PM, chuckcar wrote:
>> zxcvbob<zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
>> news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
>>> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
>>> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
>>> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
>>> afterwards.
Just try replacing the hard drive data cable with a new one. It's quite
likely the problem and if it is you won't lose anything at all. Just
make *absolutely* sure you put the red line at the same end of the
connectors on each end. No danger if you don't get it right BTW - the
drive just won't work is all.
Oldus Fartus
> zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
> news:812gr7...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 3/25/2010 8:16 PM, chuckcar wrote:
>>> zxcvbob<zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
>>> news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
>>>> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
>>>> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
>>>> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
>>>> afterwards.
>
> Just try replacing the hard drive data cable with a new one. It's quite
> likely the problem and if it is you won't lose anything at all. Just
> make *absolutely* sure you put the red line at the same end of the
> connectors on each end. No danger if you don't get it right BTW - the
> drive just won't work is all.
>
Good advice.
Just one thing though, where is the data cable on a netbook?
--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus
Aardvark
> existance
WTF?????
--
Top posting because your cursor happens to be there is like shitting in
your pants because that's where your asshole happens to be.
§nühw¤Łf
news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
> afterwards.
>
> Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot create
> a new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows Backup to an
> external drive and that fails.
>
If its under warranty take it back and demand satisfaction.
Its *your* money!
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> If its under warranty take it back and demand satisfaction.
> Its *your* money!
It should work for you, snuh.
Unlike chuckieboohoo, *you* can spell "warranty" !!
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Aardvark
> zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> clouded the waters of pure thought with
> news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my newest
>> computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up into some
>> kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair) mode, which took
>> several hours to boot but the system seemed fine afterwards.
>>
>> Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot create a
>> new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows Backup to an
>> external drive and that fails.
>>
>>
> If its under warranty take it back and demand satisfaction.
Does that mean slap his face with a gauntlet then throw it to the floor in
front of him? Swords at dawn?
Fuck, ain't that a bit heavy for a b0rked hard drive?
> Its *your*
> money!
Yabbut, what if he's shit at fencing and the guy in the store is a gold
medallist or something?
zxcvbob
> zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> clouded the waters of pure thought with
> news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
>> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
>> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
>> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot create
>> a new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows Backup to an
>> external drive and that fails.
>>
>
> If its under warranty take it back and demand satisfaction.
> Its *your* money!
>
Yeah, I think that's what I'll have to do.
"Honk if You Demand Satisfaction" ;-)
Thanks,
Bob
§nühw¤Łf
thought with news:hoijva$bu2$4...@news.eternal-september.org:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:51:09 -0500, §nühw€£f wrote:
>
>> zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> clouded the waters of pure thought
>> with news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
>>> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it
>>> up into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called
>>> Repair) mode, which took several hours to boot but the system
>>> seemed fine afterwards.
>>>
>>> Seemed fine. All my restore points were gone. And I cannot
>>> create a new restore point. I just now tried to run Windows
>>> Backup to an external drive and that fails.
>>>
>>>
>> If its under warranty take it back and demand satisfaction.
>
> Does that mean slap his face with a gauntlet then throw it to the
> floor in front of him? Swords at dawn?
>
TO THE FEILDS OF HONOR!
> Fuck, ain't that a bit heavy for a b0rked hard drive?
>
CHOOSE YOUR WEAPONS!
>> Its *your*
>> money!
>
> Yabbut, what if he's shit at fencing and the guy in the store is a
> gold medallist or something?
>
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR!
^_^
chuckcar
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:03:40 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar
> <ch...@nil.car>wrote:
>
>>zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
>>news:812gr7...@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2010 8:16 PM, chuckcar wrote:
>>>> zxcvbob<zxc...@charter.net> wrote in
>>>> news:812esd...@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> A few weeks ago, the display broke up and the system froze on my
>>>>> newest computer (Asus netbook w/ Windows 7.) I had to boot it up
>>>>> into some kind of Windows Recovery (maybe it was called Repair)
>>>>> mode, which took several hours to boot but the system seemed fine
>>>>> afterwards.
>>
>>Just try replacing the hard drive data cable with a new one. It's
>>quite likely the problem and if it is you won't lose anything at all.
>>Just make *absolutely* sure you put the red line at the same end of
>>the connectors on each end. No danger if you don't get it right BTW -
>>the drive just won't work is all.
>
> Excusez-moi cher chucktard, il n'ya pas de c?ble de connexion d'un
> lecteur portable ? un ordinateur portable. Merci
They're not the standard ones you find in desktops, rather they're
flimsy plastic things with foil for the wires, but they are there.
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
Please show us a picture of one of the flimsy plastic things with foil for
the wires...
Didn't think you could.
I don't know about netbooks but in every notebook I have ever owned the disk
plugs directly into a socket on the motherboard.
Trying very seriously to backpedal chucktard, and failing.
rf
<Meat Plow> wrote in message news:3kij96....@news.alt.net...
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:57:50 -0700, Evan Platt
> <ev...@theobvious.espphotography.com>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:12:22 GMT, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Please show us a picture of one of the flimsy plastic things with foil
>>>for
>>>the wires...
>>>
>>>
>>>Didn't think you could.
>>>
>>>I don't know about netbooks but in every notebook I have ever owned the
>>>disk
>>>plugs directly into a socket on the motherboard.
>>>
>>>Trying very seriously to backpedal chucktard, and failing.
>>
>
> A netbook with a solid state storage device may have a cable. I'll
> look at one of our Dell netbooks that's going back because the storage
> is dead.
Irrelevant. Chucktard was clearly talking about a desktop system. Note that
he specified that you need to get the red line right. I can envisage a cable
in a netbook but I can not envisage one with a red line because I simply can
not envisage being able to install said cable the wrong way, or rather,
twisted.
It's clearly a case of Chucktard caught being totally wrong and trying to
backpedal from then on.
Aardvark
> It's clearly a case of Chucktard caught being totally wrong and trying
> to backpedal from then on.
Nothing new, then.
§nühw¤Łf
of pure thought with
news:ku5tq5potlt22u1ee...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:20:12 GMT, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Irrelevant. Chucktard was clearly talking about a desktop system.
>>Note that he specified that you need to get the red line right. I
>>can envisage a cable in a netbook but I can not envisage one with
>>a red line because I simply can not envisage being able to install
>>said cable the wrong way, or rather, twisted.
>>
>>It's clearly a case of Chucktard caught being totally wrong and
>>trying to backpedal from then on.
>
> And "Check for bad blocks on the hard drive".
>
> BLOCKS?
Heads Cylinders Blocks
Sommat to do with hdd archetecture...
zxcvbob
Interesting development. Yesterday I saved the event log to an
external drive to document the problem, then I reinstalled Windoze
image from the hidden partition. Everything is working fine; it was a
software problem masquerading as hardware. (all the "missing object"
errors was the reason I tried it)
Bob