Publishing a web site.
Remi
attempt at this.
I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002. (I'm running
XP). It looks fine, but the "publish web" button and the "publish web"
selection under 'File' aren't active so I can't publish the site. Any
suggestions? Thank you.
Blinky the Shark
> Hi. Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but this is my first
> attempt at this.
>
> I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002.
Then scrap it and start over with a better tool. One such better tool
would be a text editor.
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
--
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"Remi" <csb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Leythos
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
> obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
>
Chris, you've been posting my name in EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS ALL OVER
USENET, if you don't want to see me reply then stop posting my name in
your posts - it's that simple. Take my name out of your posts and I'll
stop replying to them. It's your choice, keep harassing me in every post
and I'll keep replying to defend my name.
--
Leythos - spam9...@rrohio.com (remove 999 to email me)
Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like PCBUTTS 1.COM
that create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a
look at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
http://forums.speedguide.net/archive/index.php/t-223485.html all exposed
to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
'exposed to kids'.
why?
On Sun, 25 May 2008 16:28:50 GMT, Remi wrote:
>Hi. Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but this is my first
>attempt at this.
>
>I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002. (I'm running
Open the site locally before trying to publish?
>XP). It looks fine, but the "publish web" button and the "publish web"
After the first round of start again with anything less crap than FP.
A wild guess, www.google.com and search for
frontpage publish web greyed
Microsoft Frontpage: "Publish site..." is grayed out
When I try to publish the web page, "Publish site..." option is grayed
out, in Frontpage 2003. Any help would be gratly appreciated. ...
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Microsoft-Frontpage-1558/Publish-site-grayed.htm
- 18k - Cached - Similar pages
"publish web" grayed out...
14 Nov 2004 ... Ecommerce software integrated into Frontpage,
Dreamweaver and Golive templates. ... "publish web" grayed out... -
11/13/2004 15:32:23 ...
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>selection under 'File' aren't active so I can't publish the site. Any
>suggestions? Thank you.
Find out and fill in the FTP / webserver details for the hosting site.
It should ask for those anyway.
The hosting company should have a guide, faw, help section on how to do
this and the settings you need.
Msg header has shaw.ca, don't know thier website help at all, so tried
www.google.com shaw ftp frontpage and found this
However as the FP components are rubbish, so you don't use them and thus
don't need FP publish. Find a proper free FTP client to upload your
files.
Me
elaich
@pd7urf2no:
> I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002.
If you use that, you will publish a site that is noncompliant, and will not
display properly in compliant browsers like Firefox and Opera. Do everyone
a favor, and find a better program. There are already enough noncompliant
sites.
richard
"publish" means to send the files to the website.
If it is greyed out that means most likely you have not entered
anything in the FTP section. Once you do this, then it should become
active.
I would kindly suggest refraining from using any frontpage product as
these products are known to generate bad coding. You should use an
html editor and an ftp client. Besides learning how to code in html
and CSS.
Brian Cryer
news:pan.2008.05.25....@thurston.blinkynet.net...
> Remi wrote:
>
>> Hi. Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but this is my first
>> attempt at this.
>>
>> I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002.
>
> Then scrap it and start over with a better tool. One such better tool
> would be a text editor.
Blinky is right in the sense that there are better tools out there for
developing a website. The problem with FrontPage is that it adds extra stuff
which makes pages non-compliant (try running your page through
http://validator.w3.org/ to see what I mean - although clearly you will need
to sort out your published problem first).
However, if you appreciate its problems, then FrontPage is not a bad tool.
Its certainly much better than a simple text editor (although it is good to
understand the underlying html which a text editor would force you to do).
Be aware that there is anti-Microsoft and anti-FrontPage feeling in some
newsgroups. The anti-FrontPage is generally justified (for the reasons I've
already covered), but there are some genuinely good (i.e. compliant)
websites out there done using FrontPage.
As for the publishing problem, sorry I can't help. Whilst I used to use
FrontPage I never used its built in publishing option, allways using a
separate publishing tool. However, for the benefit of others please publish
the solution once you find it.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian
Brian Cryer
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Can you confirm that you really are an MVP? According to your blog you are
an MVP as part of the antivirus and spyware community, but according to
www.mvps.org and https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
there is no such category.
I ask because your signature makes you look like a troll.
7
Use Mozilla's seamonkey.
http://www.mozilla.org
It is open source and free HTML WYSIWYG editor (called composer) and comes
with source code. Itis more standards compliant and allows a greater number
of people to view web pages rendered properly.
You can also run it in Linux and virtual machines
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
not my real name? Pcbutts1 is not even a word yet you search all over the
internet and MS looking for reference to pcbutts1 mvp. Why don't you search
the real MVP site and find me there
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx mvps.org is not an official
MS site.
Everything on my blog is the truth.
--
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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Leythos
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> Yes I am, and no I won't. Why is it so difficult to believe that pcbutts1 is
> not my real name? Pcbutts1 is not even a word yet you search all over the
> internet and MS looking for reference to pcbutts1 mvp. Why don't you search
> the real MVP site and find me there
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx mvps.org is not an official
> MS site.
There isn't a single MVP that has or can confirm that you are a real
MVP, and you've impersonated several of them, as proven my your headers,
in the past. You've also impersonated several other reputable members of
Security and Support groups for years.
You've posted links to pornographic materials located on YOUR WEBSITE
that you direct people to for downloads.
Vendors have stated, many times, that PCBUTTS1.COM is not a valid mirror
site and is not authorized to host their files.
RemoveIT was copied from another author and his changed, even ones he
added as fake entries, were copied to your batch file shortly after he
posted his changes...
> Everything on my blog is the truth.
Everything on your blog is a lie and fabricated by you.
Brian Cryer
news:pXy_j.758$iM3...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> Yes I am, and no I won't. Why is it so difficult to believe that pcbutts1
> is not my real name? Pcbutts1 is not even a word yet you search all over
> the internet and MS looking for reference to pcbutts1 mvp. Why don't you
> search the real MVP site and find me there
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx mvps.org is not an official
> MS site.
Other than your word, you've not provided any indication that you are a
genuine MVP. I have searched the Microsoft MVP site, and there is no mention
of pcbutts1 or pcbutts. Whilst I acknowledge that the Microsoft search tools
leave a lot to be desired, if that isn't your real name (and I never thought
it was) then what name should I be looking for?
Your conduct (eg harrisement of Leythos - whether justified or not - I don't
know the history) falls outside of the published code of conduct for MVPs
(http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx).
> Everything on my blog is the truth.
Assuming I'm looking at the same blog
(http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/) then:
1. The top two posts have invalid dates. Although if your blogging software
doesn't provide you with a way of keeping comments at the top of your page
then I acknowledge that setting a date in the future is a simple and
effective means of achieving that, otherwise its hardly truthful.
2. Your "About me" has a picture of a woman. Is this you? If so then your
yahoo profile needs updating (age, sex and picture).
I have no reason to doubt that you are part of the antivirus and spyware
community. (Shouldn't that be "anti-spyware" by the way?) My observation was
that there was no matching MVP category for that. So what are you an MVP for
and can you demonstrate it beyond reasonable doubt?
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
way I choose to handle the stalker you really should not be commenting about
the way I do things. You don't know the history and I'm not going to go into
it again. You can believe what ever you want it's not going to change me or
anything I do. You also need to learn what a troll is. MS also has no beef
in the way I do things as I post the same way in the MS newsgroups. I've
already proved to MS who I am and they verified my status as an MVP. Why is
it that everybody needs to know who I am? Why is it that no one notices all
the harassment thrown at me by other stupid MVP's who believe as you do. Why
is it that no one has noticed that the MVP harassment has stopped by the
other MVP's. Why don't you comment on whether or not my software works.
Trolls don't offer help. What you are doing now is called trolling. If you
want to make me look bad then find a post where my software has broke
somebody's system of installed a virus or Trojan like the trolls have you
believing. Take a look at site advisor
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/pcbutts1.com 4 greens despite what other
stupid trolls have said about it. I have more feedback on my blog from real
users them troll comments on site advisor. I do what I want to do and don't
try to change it.
--
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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Leythos
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> Because of your lack of knowledge and history of me, my situation, and the
> way I choose to handle the stalker you really should not be commenting about
> the way I do things.
>
Archives, you're just bad news.
As for Stalker - you invited me to this group by mentioning my name in
your daily rants, you created web pages about me and others, you even
register a domain name in my honor - you mention my name in everyone of
your posts on Usenet, it would appear you are stalking me.
Blinky the Shark
> "Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.05.25....@thurston.blinkynet.net...
>> Remi wrote:
>>
>>> Hi. Please forgive me if this is a stupid question, but this is my first
>>> attempt at this.
>>>
>>> I have just made my first web site using MS Frontpage 2002.
>>
>> Then scrap it and start over with a better tool. One such better tool
>> would be a text editor.
>
> Blinky is right in the sense that there are better tools out there for
> developing a website. The problem with FrontPage is that it adds extra stuff
> which makes pages non-compliant (try running your page through
> http://validator.w3.org/ to see what I mean - although clearly you will need
> to sort out your published problem first).
>
> However, if you appreciate its problems, then FrontPage is not a bad tool.
It's his first go. He *can't* appreciate its problems.
> Its certainly much better than a simple text editor (although it is good
Not considering that a simple text editor will not create bad code on
its own, as will FP.
Brian Cryer
this rant in response but still nothing to back up what you are claiming.
Why the reluctance to demonstrate whether your claim is valid?
Please either demonstrate that you are an MVP or stop claiming to be one.
As for http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/pcbutts1.com, if that were talking
about my site then I wouldn't advocate it. (Just checked, I get a big tick
on a green background whilst you get a big cross on a red background.) It is
saying that four of your downloads are free from spyware etc, but again what
relevance is that to my question of whether you are a genuine MVP? (Your
software may be good for all I know, again that is not something I have
brought into question.) What that page does show is that I am not the first
person to question whether you are an MVP and that you have consistently
refused to prove it.
"pcbutts1 [MS MVP]" <pcbu...@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
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> Because of your lack of knowledge and history of me, my situation, and the
> way I choose to handle the stalker you really should not be commenting
> about the way I do things. You don't know the history and I'm not going to
> go into it again. You can believe what ever you want it's not going to
> change me or anything I do. You also need to learn what a troll is. MS
> also has no beef in the way I do things as I post the same way in the MS
> newsgroups. I've already proved to MS who I am and they verified my status
> as an MVP. Why is it that everybody needs to know who I am? Why is it that
> no one notices all the harassment thrown at me by other stupid MVP's who
> believe as you do. Why is it that no one has noticed that the MVP
> harassment has stopped by the other MVP's. Why don't you comment on
> whether or not my software works. Trolls don't offer help. What you are
> doing now is called trolling. If you want to make me look bad then find a
> post where my software has broke somebody's system of installed a virus or
> Trojan like the trolls have you believing. Take a look at site advisor
> http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/pcbutts1.com 4 greens despite what other
> stupid trolls have said about it. I have more feedback on my blog from
> real users them troll comments on site advisor. I do what I want to do and
> don't try to change it.
>
>
Leythos
<www.cryer.co.uk> says...
> All I asked was for you to demonstrate that you are a genuine MVP, and I get
> this rant in response but still nothing to back up what you are claiming.
>
While not proof, you will not find any MVP websites listed in the MVP
HOST file used to block access to unethical websites, but, PCBUTTS1.COM
has been listed in it for years.
Bucky Breeder
news:MPG.22a5d4942...@adfree.usenet.com:
> In article <DcGdnbGXX-IMJKbV...@pipex.net>, "Brian Cryer"
> <www.cryer.co.uk> says...
>> All I asked was for you to demonstrate that you are a genuine MVP, and
>> I get this rant in response but still nothing to back up what you are
>> claiming.
>>
>
> While not proof, you will not find any MVP websites listed in the MVP
> HOST file used to block access to unethical websites, but, PCBUTTS1.COM
> has been listed in it for years.
>
>
If you were a *real* MVP you'd have a badge for your MAYONAISSE jar.
--
I *am* Bucky Breeder, (*(^; , and *I* approved this message!
Top secrets our government does NOT want YOU to know :
#57 - MS-MVPs are being secretly abducted by alien mothership factories
and turned into MAYONAISSE for Canadian Windows users who telepathically
transmit secret code to Polish programmers who distribute for euros.
(The proof is your seeing so many tennis shoes hanging from power lines.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/ericbramlett/smoking.jpg
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
so much to know? My MVP profile has my real name. I do not want you or
anybody to know my real name especially the stalker Leythos. This shit has
been going on for 4 years now. Those trolls during those 4 years have
harassed me, my isp, my hosting company and what they thought was my job. I
have been sued by an idiot ex who really believes the shit Leythos says. He
lost because it was frivolous and he is under court order not to reveal my
name. MS has a copy of that order which is why the other MVP's are pissed
because they don't know my real name and MS won't tell them. Now you and
everybody else can ask for proof until you are blue in face you will not get
it. I don't give a fuck about you or what you think or believe about me.
Your feeble little mind does not have the ability to comprehend or
understand or realize the fact that after all the bullshit I have had to
deal with in these newsgroups nothing has stopped me from helping in these
groups nothing anyone has done has stopped me. People like that obsessed
stalker Leythos can't handle the truth so he continues on with his crap. Are
you going to be like him? if you are then let me know right now so I can put
a stop to it, otherwise FUCK OFF TROLL!
--
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
believing I am male.
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"G. Morgan" <no...@il.invalid> wrote in message
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> pcbutts1 [WANNABE MS MVP] wrote:
>
>>. I
>>have been sued by an idiot ex who really believes the shit Leythos says.
>>He
>>lost
>
> Your "ex" is a "he"?
>
> --
> It takes a big man to cry,
> but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. -Jack Handey
>
> Take back Usenet <--> http://improve-usenet.org
Brian Cryer
read the MVP rules of conduct? quote: "... avoid personal attacks, slurs and
profanity in your interactions."
Whilst I have reason to doubt that you are an MVP if you email me your
identity offline then I promise not to forward or disclose anything that
might identify you - other than my conclusions on whether your MVP claim can
be substantiated (and for the record, I have no contact with Leythos [or
anyone else who might have an interest in who you are] except via these
newsgroups).
If you make claims then you should be prepared to justify them. If you
cannot show that you are an MVP then you should not claim to be one. That is
(and always has been) my only intent in this.
By the way, I missed out something in a previous reply. The profile of yours
that needs updating (age, sex and picture - mapbe not age?) is your profile
on yahoo.
"pcbutts1 [MS MVP]" <pcbu...@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
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Leythos
@leythosthestalker.com says...
> I was born female and I still am. The stalker Leythos has everybody
> believing I am male.
>
Chris, two problems, you've stated, many times in the past that you were
a guy, and you've been identified many times, through your faked posts
as a Guy - there have only been two fakes where you posted as a woman,
and you impersonated a real MVP in one of those.
As for Stalking, you are the one that keeps posting my name all over
Usenet and has a website about me..... Think about the contradiction
there sonny.
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
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"Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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Brian Cryer
should consider the expectations Microsoft has of MVPs.
I have given you every opportunity to demonstrate that you are an MVP and
you have declined. The only reasonable interpretation for your actions (and
lack of) is that you are not a genuine MVP. Sorry to have exposed you, but
please don't mislead others by claiming something you lack. If you wish to
demonstrate that I am wrong then my original offer still stands.
"pcbutts1 [MS MVP]" <pcbu...@leythosthestalker.com> wrote in message
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Blinky the Shark
> MVP rules of conduct apply to MVPs not just MS newsgroups. Perhaps you
> should consider the expectations Microsoft has of MVPs.
>
> I have given you every opportunity to demonstrate that you are an MVP and
> you have declined. The only reasonable interpretation for your actions (and
> lack of) is that you are not a genuine MVP. Sorry to have exposed you, but
> please don't mislead others by claiming something you lack. If you wish to
> demonstrate that I am wrong then my original offer still stands.
I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, how does one demonstrate his
"genuine MS MVP"ness?
Brian Cryer
> Brian Cryer wrote:
<snip>
>> I have given you every opportunity to demonstrate that you are an MVP and
>> you have declined. The only reasonable interpretation for your actions
>> (and
>> lack of) is that you are not a genuine MVP. Sorry to have exposed you,
>> but
>> please don't mislead others by claiming something you lack. If you wish
>> to
>> demonstrate that I am wrong then my original offer still stands.
>
> I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, how does one demonstrate his
> "genuine MS MVP"ness?
Microsoft publish a list of MVPs on their website
(https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx). All I need is a
real name and then I can identify whether the claim is correct - I can even
contact the MVP once I have a name to confirm identity. (I've made the offer
to pcbutts1 that if she can supply a name then I won't publish it, but she
doesn't seem interested.)
To be honest, I don't have an axe to grind. I don't know who pcbutts1 is,
nor do I really care. I originally asked the question because I've never
seen an MVP act in such an unprofessional way, but I have seen individuals
claiming to be MVPs who aren't.
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
me. You are just another in a long line of trolls that come here, read a few
posts and think that you can find out who I am simply by asking. Who do you
think you are, what makes you think you are special and that I will
miraculously give you the answer you want that I have not given to anyone
else.
--
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obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
"Brian Cryer" <www.cryer.co.uk> wrote in message
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Mike Easter
> "Blinky the Shark"
>> I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, how does one demonstrate
>> his "genuine MS MVP"ness?
>
> Microsoft publish a list of MVPs on their website
> (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx). All I need is
> a real name and then I can identify whether the claim is correct
Link sez "The Microsoft MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all
the MVPs that want to share their information publicly."
That sed, this is the way the persona/handle/nym pcbutts1 characterizes
herself/hirself http://www.blogger.com/profile/16857468123137696406
I don't know anything about JBL Inc. or JBL Audio in Rosamond CA or whois
Christopher & Pat Butts on Topgun St. there.
--
Mike Easter
Blinky the Shark
> "Blinky the Shark" <no....@box.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.05.29....@thurston.blinkynet.net...
>> Brian Cryer wrote:
> <snip>
>>> I have given you every opportunity to demonstrate that you are an MVP and
>>> you have declined. The only reasonable interpretation for your actions
>>> (and
>>> lack of) is that you are not a genuine MVP. Sorry to have exposed you,
>>> but
>>> please don't mislead others by claiming something you lack. If you wish
>>> to
>>> demonstrate that I am wrong then my original offer still stands.
>>
>> I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, how does one demonstrate his
>> "genuine MS MVP"ness?
>
> Microsoft publish a list of MVPs on their website
Gotcha.
Blinky the Shark
> Brian Cryer wrote:
>> "Blinky the Shark"
>
>>> I don't have a dog in this fight. That said, how does one demonstrate
>>> his "genuine MS MVP"ness?
>>
>> Microsoft publish a list of MVPs on their website
>> (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx). All I need is
>> a real name and then I can identify whether the claim is correct
>
> Link sez "The Microsoft MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all
> the MVPs that want to share their information publicly."
Well, that's kind of different from "all". :)
Leythos
@hotmail.com says...
> To think... such filth and depravity coming out by way of such an
> "attractive" face. Only goes to show, that you can't judge a book by its
> cover.
Sure you can, that's not the real cover, that's a diversionary book
protector for the evil that lies inside.
Mara
On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:20:39 -0400, Ž <alt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:54:55 -0700, "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid>
>wrote:
>To think... such filth and depravity coming out by way of such an
>"attractive" face. Only goes to show, that you can't judge a book by its
>cover.
What makes you think the pic is really of her?
>On the other hand, if H. Clinton is in mind.....
--
Can you SysAdmins tell me what might go on in a typical day?
Hours of endless frustration punctuated by moments of sheer terror.
--Saul Tannenbaum
Mike Easter
> Ž
>> "Mike Easter"
>>> That sed, this is the way the persona/handle/nym pcbutts1
>>> characterizes herself/hirself
>>> http://www.blogger.com/profile/16857468123137696406
>> To think... such filth and depravity coming out by way of such an
>> "attractive" face. Only goes to show, that you can't judge a book by
>> its cover.
>
> What makes you think the pic is really of her?
Or him, for that matter.
There are a lot of allegations going on present and past that pcbutts1
misrepresents what is 'hirs' and what isn't.
I don't know the true facts of the matter, but this is another example of
where the 3rd party singular pronoun needs to cover both sexes and not
imply one or the other, since we don't really truly know who/what pcbutts1
is.
I suppose that if we are inclined to take the persona at hir word, we
would/should say 'she'. If you Mara say you are female, we accept that
and say she or her.
--
Mike Easter
Mara
On Thu, 29 May 2008 10:59:39 -0700, "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
>Mara wrote:
>> ®
>>> "Mike Easter"
>
>>>> That sed, this is the way the persona/handle/nym pcbutts1
>>>> characterizes herself/hirself
>>>> http://www.blogger.com/profile/16857468123137696406
>
>>> To think... such filth and depravity coming out by way of such an
>>> "attractive" face. Only goes to show, that you can't judge a book by
>>> its cover.
>>
>> What makes you think the pic is really of her?
>
>Or him, for that matter.
>
>There are a lot of allegations going on present and past that pcbutts1
>misrepresents what is 'hirs' and what isn't.
>
>I don't know the true facts of the matter, but this is another example of
>where the 3rd party singular pronoun needs to cover both sexes and not
>imply one or the other, since we don't really truly know who/what pcbutts1
>is.
I've known PCbutts1 for years, since long before she apparently lost her mind
and this all started. It's a she, not a he.
>I suppose that if we are inclined to take the persona at hir word, we
>would/should say 'she'. If you Mara say you are female, we accept that
>and say she or her.
Oh, I'm very definitely female. And there are several in this group (at least
off and on) who can attest to that, just as I can attest to their gender.
However, people are free to believe whatever they want. If it makes them look
like fools, who am I to stop them? :)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> I've known PCbutts1 for years, since long before she apparently lost
> her mind and this all started. It's a she, not a he.
So is that really hir picture in the blog?
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Mara
On Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:34 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.non...@example.invalid> wrote:
>Mara wrote:
>
>> I've known PCbutts1 for years, since long before she apparently lost
>> her mind and this all started. It's a she, not a he.
>
>So is that really hir picture in the blog?
I don't know for sure as I've never met her *in person*. But given the fact that
she's lied about so many other things lately, I wouldn't be inclined to think
so.
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Mara wrote:
>>> I've known PCbutts1 for years, since long before she apparently lost
>>> her mind and this all started. It's a she, not a he.
>>
>> So is that really hir picture in the blog?
>
> I don't know for sure as I've never met her *in person*. But given
> the fact that she's lied about so many other things lately, I
> wouldn't be inclined to think so.
So is there something else in your knowing hir that actually leads you
to believe s/he is a woman? F2F would probably prove it; electronic
communication not necessarily. I guess a lot of us are curious.
Leythos
g...@awaynow.becauseIsaidso.com says...
>
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 16:32:34 -0400, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.non...@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Mara wrote:
> >
> >> I've known PCbutts1 for years, since long before she apparently lost
> >> her mind and this all started. It's a she, not a he.
> >
> >So is that really hir picture in the blog?
>
> I don't know for sure as I've never met her *in person*. But given the fact that
> she's lied about so many other things lately, I wouldn't be inclined to think
> so.
Based on MANY past statements by Butts, he is a Man, middle age, works -
or worked as a contractor for JPL, and was in the bus accident that
named him as Christopher Butts.
Mike Easter
> Based on MANY past statements by Butts, he is a Man, middle age, works -
> or worked as a contractor for JPL, and was in the bus accident that
> named him as Christopher Butts.
So that means that is how you interpret whatever it is you are
interpreting?
Could you express that a little bit more 'finitely' -- like -- 'here are
two statements or pieces of evidence which support my opinion'.
As opposed to "I have tons of support for this. Trust me."
--
Mike Easter
Blinky the Shark
Remember...the lurkers support him in email. :)
Leythos
Mi...@ster.invalid says...
You are free to search google for it, that way you don't have to believe
me personally.
Mike Easter
> Mi...@ster.invalid says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>
>>> Based on MANY past statements by Butts, he is a Man, middle age,
>>> works - or worked as a contractor for JPL, and was in the bus
>>> accident that named him as Christopher Butts.
>>
>> So that means that is how you interpret whatever it is you are
>> interpreting?
>>
>> Could you express that a little bit more 'finitely' -- like -- 'here
>> are two statements or pieces of evidence which support my opinion'.
>>
>> As opposed to "I have tons of support for this. Trust me."
>
> You are free to search google for it, that way you don't have to believe
> me personally.
What I see on google are various people acting badly including you and
pcbutts1. pcbutts1 acting badly on the website and Leythos and others
acting badly on usenet newsgroups.
None of you people should be behaving the way you do in front of everyone.
You shouldn't be making ad hominem attacks on pcbutts1 in the newsgroups.
In most ways that is a worse offense in 'public' than the attacks pcbutts1
is making on you and others on the website, because in order to see the
website offensiveness, one has to access the links which you provide;
while/but in order to see you attack pcbutts1 all one has to do is access
a newsgroup such as this one without your posts filtered out.
--
Mike Easter
Leythos
Mi...@ster.invalid says...
Maybe you should direct that at Butts because he posts all over usenet
about me in his sig.
If you've noticed, which it appears you didn't, I only post where he's
mentioned my name.
Mike Easter
> If you've noticed, which it appears you didn't, I only post where he's
> mentioned my name.
There is a great deal of 'name mentioning' you are doing which is not what
should be going on in newsgroups. Newsgroups are not a place where people
attack each other's 'characters'. Newsgroups are where people disagree
with each others' ideas or opinions, but don't attack the character of the
other individual.
Your sig looks like this below, in case you haven't noticed lately. Not
only is it excessively long and noncompliant according to the netiquette
guidelines about that, but it is a broadside ad hominem attack and a rant
which has absolutely no business in a sig.
In the group alt.comp.freeware, it took me many months to convince a
regular there to stop making ad hominem attacks in his sig.
That group's discourse improved considerably when he did, and this group
would be better off without your sig, regardless of any truth or falsehood
about pcbutts1.
> --
> Leythos - spam9...@rrohio.com (remove 999 to email me)
> Fight exposing kids to porn, complain about sites like PCBUTTS 1.COM
> that create filth and put it on the web for any kid to see: Just take a
> look at some of the FILTH he's created and put on his website:
> http://forums.speedguide.net/archive/index.php/t-223485.html all exposed
> to children (the link I've include does not directly display his filth).
> You can find the same information by googling for 'PCBUTTS1' and
> 'exposed to kids'.
--
Mike Easter
Dan C
> Maybe you should direct that at Butts because he posts all over usenet
> about me in his sig.
You're both first class dickwads, and your little personal spat gets old
real fast. You're both idiots, and don't understand a thing about Usenet
"netiquette". How about you both just fuck off and die, or at least just
go away and quit polluting NG's with your bullshit.
Just fuck right off, asswipe.
--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
Now filtering out all posts originating from Google Groups.
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Leythos
Mi...@ster.invalid says...
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > If you've noticed, which it appears you didn't, I only post where he's
> > mentioned my name.
>
> There is a great deal of 'name mentioning' you are doing which is not what
> should be going on in newsgroups. Newsgroups are not a place where people
> attack each other's 'characters'. Newsgroups are where people disagree
> with each others' ideas or opinions, but don't attack the character of the
> other individual.
Well, not that I mind the opinion you have, since I've been on Usenet
since 84 and seen all generations of questionable things myself, but, I
don't see you attacking Butts for his crap, which makes you look
hypocritical.
> Your sig looks like this below, in case you haven't noticed lately. Not
> only is it excessively long and noncompliant according to the netiquette
> guidelines about that, but it is a broadside ad hominem attack and a rant
> which has absolutely no business in a sig.
Yes, that's true, but, a Sig is a recommendation, and most providers
won't say a thing about content in a sig because they consider it a
protected area. Sure, it's long, but how come you are not posting about
butt's sig for what it says?
> In the group alt.comp.freeware, it took me many months to convince a
> regular there to stop making ad hominem attacks in his sig.
That would imply that the facts were in dispute about the content of the
sig, something we don't have here.
> That group's discourse improved considerably when he did, and this group
> would be better off without your sig, regardless of any truth or falsehood
> about pcbutts1.
Yes, and it would improve is the same zealousness was applied to all
people and not just ones you want to pick while appearing to defend the
others doing it.
Leythos
youmust...@lan.invalid says...
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 21:06:29 -0400, Leythos wrote:
>
> > Maybe you should direct that at Butts because he posts all over usenet
> > about me in his sig.
>
> You're both first class dickwads, and your little personal spat gets old
> real fast. You're both idiots, and don't understand a thing about Usenet
> "netiquette". How about you both just fuck off and die, or at least just
> go away and quit polluting NG's with your bullshit.
>
> Just fuck right off, asswipe.
It appears that you don't abide by "netiquette" either sonny.
Mike Easter
> Mi...@ster.invalid says...
>> There is a great deal of 'name mentioning' you are doing which is not
>> what should be going on in newsgroups. Newsgroups are not a place
>> where people attack each other's 'characters'.
> Yes, and it would improve is the same zealousness was applied to all
> people and not just ones you want to pick while appearing to defend the
> others doing it.
Not only does pcbutts1 also have an offensive ad hominem sig which ad
hominem elements should be eliminated, but we also have the problem of
pcbutts1 top posting, which is an extremely poor communication method in
newsgroups.
The most efficient thing 'we' (tinw) who don't like to look at /your/ ad
hominem /or/ pcbutts1 ad hominem is to filter both of you out, along with
all of the others who behave like that.
That way 'we' wouldn't have to waste any time with these discussions about
it, which are likely completely useless. There's no reason I should have
to look at what you have to say about pcbutts1 and there's no reason I
should have to look at what pcbutts1 has to say about you. Much less hir
top posting.
Think about it. A signature is like a statement of who you are. Look at
who you are proclaiming yourself to be -- a raving 'crazy' about pcbutts1.
I don't think that's the way I would want to characterize myself.
--
Mike Easter
Mara
She was subbed to 24 for a number of years before she lost her cookies, so to
speak. I remember a time when she was one of the more helpful regulars, but that
isn't true anymore. I have/had no reason to believe she was lying when she told
me she was female then, but that may be wrong. Certainly I know she lies now,
and I could well be wrong about sh/h/it, and have been about people before. As a
pointed example, I recently found out by accident that someone I'd known in 24
and in e-mail for about 7-8 years wasn't at all who he'd told me he was, so for
all I know PCButts1 might be a talking monkey, I might be Vincent Price, and you
could be Britney Spears.
As far as F2F, frankly I'd rather not be that close to either one of them. Not
ever.
Mara
On Thu, 29 May 2008 18:19:42 -0700, "Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
>Leythos wrote:
>
>> If you've noticed, which it appears you didn't, I only post where he's
>> mentioned my name.
>
>There is a great deal of 'name mentioning' you are doing which is not what
>should be going on in newsgroups. Newsgroups are not a place where people
>attack each other's 'characters'. Newsgroups are where people disagree
>with each others' ideas or opinions, but don't attack the character of the
>other individual.
You might as well write this one off, Mike. Leythos has always been a troll.
Butts hasn't, but is now, and they both devote their time to stalking each other
around Usenet in a sick little dance of "who can be the most mentally ill." Your
S/N ratio will improve if you just bin them both. No one has ever been able to
get through to either of them, and their collective illness is such that the
chance of even professional help doing some good is virtually nil.
<snip>
M.L.
> I don't have anything to prove to you, there is nothing you can to me
> or for me. You are just another in a long line of trolls that come
> here, read a few posts and think that you can find out who I am
> simply by asking. Who do you think you are, what makes you think you
> are special and that I will miraculously give you the answer you want
> that I have not given to anyone else.
The declaration of an MVP status online without divulging the owner's
full name is meaningless. So why do you bother declaring it under a
pseudonym?
Leythos
Mi...@ster.invalid says...
You are most welcome to have any belief you want, provided you're in a
country that permits that ideal.
You are also most welcome to kill-file me any time you feel you don't
want to read my messages.
You are not and have not been forced to read anything I post, it YOUR
OPTION TO READ.
So, now that you've wasted our time, how about you KF me and enjoy you
time on Usenet.
Leythos
g...@awaynow.becauseIsaidso.com says...
> You might as well write this one off, Mike.
LOL, yep, as long as Butts posts my name in his messages I have an
obligation to defend my name, it's really that simple. The only reason I
came to this group was because he started making posts about me in here.
pcbutts1 [MS MVP]
any group. I do use my real name when posting to MS groups and I also use
pcbutts1. I have for years stated that I was an MVP and I used it in my sig
file, of course nobody remembers that, I stopped using it in my sig years
ago when I started working for Digital Security Video (DSV) I used their
slogan instead of mine. I switched back to piss off the trolls and to prove
a point. That point being that when you post truth nothing will happen to
you. Those troll have been constantly for years telling lies about me and
sending email to every tom, dick, and harry they think can do something.
Since they are wrong and lying their only means is to keep attacking me
here. But it's ok because I now average 500 hits per day from all over the
world on my website and the constant Google searches moves me closer to the
top every day. They help me make money. Mara was right in what she said
about me helping here and I still do but why bother when my help gets buried
beneath the crap of trolls and threads are started about me. I didn't do
that they did. Again it does not effect me because I use email along with
the NG. I get on average about 20 "Thank you it worked" emails per day.
--
Ignore posts made by the person called Leythos, he is a stalker who's been
obsessed with me for years ever since I spurned his advances towards me.
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