Thomas Jefferson

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No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson


For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and
armed militia is their best security.
Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and
Romans, and must be that of every free state.
Thomas Jefferson

None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours
armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important.
Thomas Jefferson


Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them.
Thomas Jefferson


A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one
another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own
pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of
labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this
is necessary to close the circlue of our felicities.
Thomas Jefferson

[practice]

Been doing a lot of reading about freeman, sovereignty, Tom Jefferson,
the Articles of Confederation, traveling, etc lately. Interesting topic.

[BurfordTJustice]

"practice" <us...@example.net.invalid> wrote in message
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Indeed. Many more need to study up....

[practice]

On 02/26/2013 22:15, Dustin wrote:
> practice <us...@example.net.invalid> wrote in
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> So you realize then what an important role firearms have played in our
> country and why they must remain available to the average legal american
> citizen?
>
>

The *only* way they are going to get my firearm(s) from me and my family
is to pry it out of my (our) cold dead fingers!

My daddy-in-law got me interested in firearms almost 36 years ago when I
married his daughter, and, no, he wasn't there at the alter right behind
me with a shotgun!
Actually, the first time we met, I was at his house visiting my
girl-friend (his daughter), I was wearing a pair of cut-offs, tank-top,
sandals and hair down past my belt. She told me later he said, "If that
long hair son-of-a-bitch steps in my house again, I'll shoot him!"
I got my hair cut shortly thereafter.

My daddy-in-law was a gunsmith who had his shop in the basement of the
house he built himself. He had every tool imaginable and when we went
"home" to visit him after our marriage, I would just stand in his
basement and look, go from room to room and just stand there and look.
When he passed, my wife was the executor of the estate, and she had to
go thru the whole house and catalogue everything. He had 145 firearms of
all sorts in his house, pistols, rifles, shotguns, muskets,
black-powder, cannons, swords, knives, deer antlers for handles, walnut
lumber, and of course, all his tools.

Sorry for the long post which nobody is really interested in

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"practice" <us...@example.net.invalid> wrote in message

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I am interested in such stories. Thanks for posting it.
Real Americans, are at the Heart of such stories.

[Jenn]

When my father-in-law passed away, my husband came home with a lot of his
dads stuff, too. LOTS of stuff!

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Jenn

[practice]

BTJ added, which my latest version of T-Bird doesn't append to the
follow-up...

> I am interested in such stories. Thanks for posting it.
> Real Americans, are at the Heart of such stories.

We had a 'private family auction' where just the family, the kids,
grand-kids, and greats gathered, on an all day Saturday to see who
wanted what as a momento. IIRC, bidding started at $5.00 for the
'trinkets'(pots, pans, blankets, couch, TV, etc) and $25.00 for the
firearms. I think all the kids and grandkids got their favorite firearm.
There was hardly any bickering as to who wanted what...most were in
agreement..."I wanted that, but you spoke first" type thing. Most of the
day was mostly 'remembering the memories' with each piece, firearm or
trinket.

I had just bought a table saw a couple years before and it just wasn't
what I wanted so I went to the rest of the family members and asked to
trade saws with my daddy-in-law and even offered money to go with the
trade. They all said, take it, bring the other one up before the 'real'
auction. And I did. It turned out, one of the other family members
bought "my" table saw and thinks it's the best thing since buttered
bread! (What was the best thing before buttered bread?)
And to me, that saw is still his, my wife calls it 'yours'. Oh, well...

The year before he passed, 'Dad' bought a brand new Pickup and at the
'auction' the oldest son said he wanted the pickup and was only going to
pay $10.00 (ten) for it. Almost immediately and unamiously, the family
said, "It's yours." The oldest is on disability and had
been...forever...and everybody was thinking, 'it's his turn to have
something in life'

Again, sorry.

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"practice" <us...@example.net.invalid> wrote in message

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Cool Beans. I am touched by such stories, they tell the tale
of what makes America so great. Epecially when compared
to the current "entitled" crowd.

Thanks...

[practice]

Just the year before my Dad passed away my son and I drove 1800 miles
out there and loaded all his woodworking tools into a big rented van and
brought them home. That van was bottomed out on the shocks all the way!

When I was 14, my dad told me that when he died he wanted me to have his
tools. So I have always kept that thought in the back of my mind. About
10 years ago while we were out visiting him, he showed me his will and
asked me to be his executor, blah, blah, blah. And in it was the wish
for his tools to go to me, but he had already given the table saw to my
brother and that was all he was going to get. Poor kid!

But anyway, after he retired in about '85, he sold everything, and I
mean everything, and he and his wife went traveling all over the
country, which is fine...they deserved it! So, I'm thinking... goodbye
tools. He musta put them in storage!! So again the first paragraph...
Just the year before my Dad passed away my son and I drove 1800 miles
out there and loaded all his woodworking tools into a big rented van and
brought them home. That van was bottomed out on the shocks all the way!

After he retired they went traveling. Get tired and buy a house where
they were, live in it a few years, bought woodworking tools sell all and
move on to another part of the country and do it all over again.

So I have all his tools, they are all in tip-top shape and I often think
about him while I'm using his (my wife calls them 'yours') tools!
Oh, the memories...

[Jenn]

Don't be sorry! I've enjoyed reading what you've shared. :)

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Jenn

[Jenn]

.. he sounds like he had a great life. :)

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Jenn

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practice <us...@example.net.invalid> wrote in
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Interesting post. Nice to see a good family whose members help one
another. This is the true heartbeat of America!

Those 145 firearms are impressive too. Guess many were in good working
order.

Jax :)
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Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

[practice]

Maybe just one or two were not a working model, IIRC. He hardly ever
kept a piece that was missing parts. We brought them all home in a van
and one of our neighbors watched us make several trips from the van to
the walk-out basement door. I wondered what he was thinking. My wife
spent the next month or so cleaning them up getting them ready for the
auction.

There was 3 auctions...the first one was the private family auction.
The second one was the house and household contents, and the tools.
Those two auctions were held in the town he lived in, 150 miles away
from where we live. The 3rd auction was the firearms and related
accessories, the reloaders, knives, cannons, swords, black powder, etc.
This auction was held in a town close to where we live.

Both my sons each have a cannon that was made by their G-pa. It's about
a 50 caliber black powder cannon with the barrel about 15" long. My
wife's cannon she got shoots ammo the size of a golf ball! Quite a
distance, too.

We all have a lot of fun shooting at family gatherings! Ear plugs for
everybody, safety always first. Even the 5 year old grand-daughter likes
shooting.