Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.
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Preesi wrote: > Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent > folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and > deleting.
In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent messages to the sent items folder"
Terra Prime wrote: > Preesi wrote: >> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent >> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and >> deleting.
> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent > messages to the sent items folder"
That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
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Terra Prime wrote: > Preesi wrote: >> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent >> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and >> deleting.
> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent > messages to the sent items folder"
But, you Terra might not be entirely happy with that result. OE save sent is 'all or none' - it doesn't just 'unsave' news, it also unsaves mail.
I would think you might want to handle it differently. That you would leave save sent functional and find a different efficient strategy for 'unsaving' or deleting some, but not all, of the saved items -- and/or organizing the saved into folders.
Delete some, organize the rest into other folders, so that the saved folder doesn't get too large or it can corrupt.
You can massively delete by organizing according to To which will organize the news messages into groups for deletion or by Account which will organize all of the news messages separate from the mail messages because they originated from a different account, news vs mail.
You could also make message rules to perform the function massively for you.
Mike Easter wrote: > Terra Prime wrote: >> Preesi wrote: >>> Can I stop sent >> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent >> messages to the sent items folder"
> But, you Terra might not be entirely happy with that result.
I meant you Preesi might not want to do it that way.
> Terra Prime wrote: >> Preesi wrote: >>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent >>> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and >>> deleting.
>> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent >> messages to the sent items folder"
> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! > I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for newsgroup use. Then switch identies when you are going to email.
Toolman Tim wrote: > "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:YsWdnTVd6qNil3DfRVn-vw@comcast.com... >> Terra Prime wrote: >>> Preesi wrote: >>>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent >>>> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and >>>> deleting.
>>> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent >>> messages to the sent items folder"
>> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! >> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for newsgroup > use. Then switch identies when you are going to email.
Why should I go thru the hassle?
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Preesi wrote: > I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
Leave your save sent operational. Put an account column in your Sent folder -- View/ Columns - check Account
Periodically go to the Sent, click on the account column to separate all of your news sent from all of your mail sent, shift-click to select all of the news sent and massively delete.
> Toolman Tim wrote: >> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:YsWdnTVd6qNil3DfRVn-vw@comcast.com... >>> Terra Prime wrote: >>>> Preesi wrote: >>>>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent >>>>> folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and >>>>> deleting.
>>>> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy of sent >>>> messages to the sent items folder"
>>> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! >>> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
>> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for newsgroup >> use. Then switch identies when you are going to email.
> Why should I go thru the hassle?
For the same reason I politely remove all that crap you call a sig: because OE doesn't *do* things the way you or I want it to.
Toolman Tim wrote: > For the same reason I politely remove all that crap you call a sig: > because OE doesn't *do* things the way you or I want it to.
OE-QF will trim those sigs for you, whether they are the old bad OE sigs or the new compliant OE sigs. [Hmm. I'm not sure about the old bad ones, but his is new enough.]
> Toolman Tim wrote: >> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:YsWdnTVd6qNil3DfRVn-vw@comcast.com... >>> Terra Prime wrote: >>>> Preesi wrote: >>>>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the >>>>> sent folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out >>>>> the news and deleting.
>>>> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy >>>> of sent messages to the sent items folder"
>>> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! >>> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
>> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for >> newsgroup use. Then switch identies when you are going to >> email.
> Why should I go thru the hassle?
why get anything that works better ? not a hassle in long run
>> For the same reason I politely remove all that crap you call a sig: >> because OE doesn't *do* things the way you or I want it to.
> OE-QF will trim those sigs for you, whether they are the old bad OE sigs > or the new compliant OE sigs. [Hmm. I'm not sure about the old bad > ones, but his is new enough.]
I used it previously, but had problems with some of the other 'features'. It's been so long, I don't remember what it was anymore. I may try it again soon - I'm changing laptops - but it's not worth setting up anything new on this old junker.
>> Toolman Tim wrote: >>> "Preesi" <pre...@comcast.net> wrote in message >>> news:YsWdnTVd6qNil3DfRVn-vw@comcast.com... >>>> Terra Prime wrote: >>>>> Preesi wrote: >>>>>> Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the >>>>>> sent folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out >>>>>> the news and deleting.
>>>>> In OE, go to Tools, Options, Send tab, uncheck "Save copy >>>>> of sent messages to the sent items folder"
>>>> That will also stop outgoing mail from being saved! >>>> I want to save sent mail, just not sent newsgroup posts
>>> Get a different newsreader. Or set up a new identity for >>> newsgroup use. Then switch identies when you are going to >>> email.
>> Why should I go thru the hassle?
> why get anything that works better ? not a hassle in long run
Look, I have Thunderbird, but If I leave it open it NEVER checks for new mail! I have to keep clicking "GET NEW MAIL". Plus I hate configuring things for spam. I have a spam blocker for OE.
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>>>Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent folder? > Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and deleting.
>> Don't post with your real e-mail address.
> Testing Evan's theory... even though I have "Save copy" checked, this > should not save since my address is not correct.
And the answer is ... it still saves in the sent folder for the default email account. Of course Evan was also pointing out that posting with your real e-mail address is sure to draw spam.
B0B wrote: > "Evan Platt" >> Don't post with your real e-mail address.
> Testing Evan's theory... even though I have "Save copy" checked, this > should not save since my address is not correct.
I'm sure that Evan didn't mean any such thing. The advice about your eml addy was 'generic' and had nothing to do with a solution to the initial question.
Toolman Tim wrote: > I used it previously, but had problems with some of the other > 'features'. It's been so long, I don't remember what it was anymore. > I may try it again soon - I'm changing laptops - but it's not worth > setting up anything new on this old junker.
IMO it has a memory leak or a buffer overrun problem -- but I don't know how to properly diagnose it -- but I do know how to manage it.
It certainly has a lot of features I find necessary to help OE behave itself -- I can't stand shortlines created by an editor's mismanagement of EOL wraps and linelength 'growth'.
I think maybe the newest editor for OE has improved its bad behavior which is/was the chief purpose of OE-QF, but I can't use that upgrade patch because I'm not XP, so I can't check it out.
>> I used it previously, but had problems with some of the other >> 'features'. It's been so long, I don't remember what it was anymore. >> I may try it again soon - I'm changing laptops - but it's not worth >> setting up anything new on this old junker.
> IMO it has a memory leak or a buffer overrun problem -- but I don't know > how to properly diagnose it -- but I do know how to manage it.
> It certainly has a lot of features I find necessary to help OE behave > itself -- I can't stand shortlines created by an editor's mismanagement > of EOL wraps and linelength 'growth'.
> I think maybe the newest editor for OE has improved its bad behavior > which is/was the chief purpose of OE-QF, but I can't use that upgrade > patch because I'm not XP, so I can't check it out.
Maybe, but they didn't fix the sig problems (either sending OR replying), top posting, etc. I'm used to it, so it doesn't matter too much.
Toolman Tim wrote: > Maybe, but they didn't fix the sig problems (either sending OR > replying), top posting, etc. I'm used to it, so it doesn't matter too > much.
Your version's sig is compliant, dash dash space. OE never has trimmed the sig.
I don't think OE 'causes' top posting - but it is 'geared' for TOFU corporate email text over fullquote under -- and when an OE user has an automatic sig enabled, then they are 'pushed into' top posting by the cursor being at the top, followed by the sig, followed by everything else. Those are the same people who never leave the default configurations.
If that same OE user would disable the automatic sig, the business of the cursor being at the top is appropriate IMO, because that's where the trimming should begin. When they get everything trimmed and contextually responded to, they can add a sig. 'Manually' click adding the sig has a certain advantage, because one can choose from a bank of sigs instead of having it automated.
With OEQF that whole business is taken care of - one can use the autosig customized for which account is being used, as intended, and one can have the cursor start at the top, which I do, [or even the bottom if desired], and the 'relationship' between where the cursor is and where the sig is are appropriate for trimmed contextualizing.
A great many of the things wrong with OE's behavior that offends others have been managed by OEQF and/or the most recent improvements in OE.
The problem of the inherent insecurity of the relationship between OE and IE and the OS itself is another matter altogether. I, of course, believe that a well informed user can 'handle' OE and IE and MS OS/s sufficiently securely. My friends don't seem to be able to, but I can.
> Toolman Tim wrote: >> Maybe, but they didn't fix the sig problems (either sending OR >> replying), top posting, etc. I'm used to it, so it doesn't matter too >> much.
> Your version's sig is compliant, dash dash space. OE never has trimmed > the sig.
Exactly. But it puts the sig at the top of a reply. That isn't exactly where it belongs <g>
> I don't think OE 'causes' top posting - but it is 'geared' for TOFU > corporate email text over fullquote under -- and when an OE user has an > automatic sig enabled, then they are 'pushed into' top posting by the > cursor being at the top, followed by the sig, followed by everything > else. Those are the same people who never leave the default > configurations.
> If that same OE user would disable the automatic sig, the business of > the cursor being at the top is appropriate IMO, because that's where the > trimming should begin. When they get everything trimmed and > contextually responded to, they can add a sig. 'Manually' click adding > the sig has a certain advantage, because one can choose from a bank of > sigs instead of having it automated.
> With OEQF that whole business is taken care of - one can use the autosig > customized for which account is being used, as intended, and one can > have the cursor start at the top, which I do, [or even the bottom if > desired], and the 'relationship' between where the cursor is and where > the sig is are appropriate for trimmed contextualizing.
> A great many of the things wrong with OE's behavior that offends others > have been managed by OEQF and/or the most recent improvements in OE.
> The problem of the inherent insecurity of the relationship between OE > and IE and the OS itself is another matter altogether. I, of course, > believe that a well informed user can 'handle' OE and IE and MS OS/s > sufficiently securely. My friends don't seem to be able to, but I can.
And I must agree there too. For example, while I spend hours fixing computers for coworkers and friends that are innundated with crapware, I never have that problem on my own system.
>> Look, I have Thunderbird, but If I leave it open it NEVER checks for >> new mail! >> I have to keep clicking "GET NEW MAIL".
> Did you turn on the setting "Check for new mail every <x> minutes?
Yes it didnt work
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Preesi wrote: > Can I stop sent newsgroup messages from being saved in the sent > folder? Im tired of going thru them and weeding out the news and > deleting.
No. Best you can do (like all OE folders) is hide them, using a "View" setting. You'll still have to clean it out now and then, but it'll be easier to find your sent email messages. Alternatively, you could hide your email messages, to highlight and delete your newsgroup posts at one go. -- If that's the sort of thing you want to bother with.
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