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Malcolm M  
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From: Malcolm M <malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:32:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 7:32 am
Subject: The Big Questions
The big geographical questions!

So what are the big questions we should be posing in the geography
classroom?  As people talk about and construct a possible geography
curriculum for Australian students, it would be an interesting
discussion to consider what would be the “die in the trenches”
questions we would like students to be asked during their geographical
education? The questions need to be “big” enough to enable a
multiplicity of pathways for exploration by students and adequately
provocative to engender issue based discussion, lateral thinking and
creative enquiry. Quite a task!  In this Google Group posting I invite
the 100 educators presently involved in the “21st Century Geography in
Australian schools” group to propose a big question and/or discuss
those proposed. In the eyes of the proposer, the question should be
considered to be a non-negotiable question to be explored in the
national geography curriculum – somewhere and somehow!  Ideally the
final list compiled from the responses should cover all the branches
of geography (not just the environment).  Have a look at the
Spatialworlds blog entry at  http://spatialworlds.blogspot.com/2009/09/geography-more-than-meets-e...
titled (“Geography, more than meets the eye” to get a list of the
branches (albeit incomplete)

Can I start by proposing this question related to the geographical
branches of Geotourism and  Environment.

Should Tourism be encouraged?

Footnote
This Google Group has no formal relationship with ACARA or AGTA and
has been developed purely to provide a forum for Australian
geographers to discuss and be kept up to date with development in
Australian geography.


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J.Davis  
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From: "J.Davis" <jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:09:57 +1000
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
And if it is to be encouraged what type of tourism should we be advocating.


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Pat Beeson  
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From: "Pat Beeson" <pabee...@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:18:36 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 1 2009 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Undoubtedly- What should the population of Australia be?.  What is
sustainable and how should it be achieved?


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Kathleen Johnson  
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From: "Kathleen Johnson" <kat...@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:18:54 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 4:48 am
Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Globalisation - a necessary evil?


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John Coop  
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From: John Coop <johnnyc...@optusnet.com.au>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:44:18 +1030
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 7:14 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Sustainability of farming in Australia

On 02/11/2009, at 8:18 PM, Kathleen Johnson wrote:


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Lowry, Mark  
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From: "Lowry, Mark" <Mark.Lo...@tdsb.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:27:52 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 11:27 am
Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Terrific Idea ; I hope you don't mind if we in Ontario Canada tag along
on this exercise as we are presently going through our major Geography
curriculum review and the concept of "big Ideas " and/or Enduring
understandings is foremost on the agenda.   I will share and communicate
more as we become more immersed in the process. Cheers Mark

Mark Lowry
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Geography, Geotechnologies, & Civics
Grades 7-12 system wide
Toronto District School Board
(416) 394 7269
cell (416) 576 4515
Fax (416) 394 6420
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Trish Harris  
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From: Trish Harris <thar...@ais.wa.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:22:13 +0800
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Thanks Malcolm, great to see our community communicating.

We have recently configured the Geog course in Year 11 & 12 in the West. We have gone with content organisers and these provide a 'first audit' of what is geography- these then frame and structure the the types of geographic questions asked. Not new but to me important as they underpin any geographic problem/ question.

Organisers:
Place and change:
                         Location and spatial distribution
                         Spatial association
                         Spatial interaction
Human influence on sustainability:
                         Factors that impact on decisions about sustainability
                         Values and viewpoints in people’s use of places
                         Care of places
Geographical thinking, skills and processes:
                         Geographical thinking and questioning
                         Geographical inquiry skills
                         Forms of geographical communication

Course document under syllabus:  http://www.curriculum.wa.edu.au/internet/Senior_Secondary/Courses/Geo...
regards
Trish
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From: Lowry, Mark [Mark.Lo...@tdsb.on.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:27 AM
To: 21st-century-geography-in-australian-schools@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Big Questions

Terrific Idea ; I hope you don't mind if we in Ontario Canada tag along
on this exercise as we are presently going through our major Geography
curriculum review and the concept of "big Ideas " and/or Enduring
understandings is foremost on the agenda.   I will share and communicate
more as we become more immersed in the process. Cheers Mark

Mark Lowry
Instructional Leader for
Geography, Geotechnologies, & Civics
Grades 7-12 system wide
Toronto District School Board
(416) 394 7269
cell (416) 576 4515
Fax (416) 394 6420
1 Civic Centre Court
Toronto M9C  2B3
mark.lo...@tdsb.on.ca
 Website: http://tdsbweb/program/swsh


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J.Davis  
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From: "J.Davis" <jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:26:53 +1000
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Pat,

I would expect nothing less than a population question from you - and an
important one too. Have we reached carrying capacity and if we have what are
our options for managing population growth and the impacts of this.
Definately a question that students should be thinking.

regards


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Malcolm M  
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From: Malcolm M <malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:59:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 2 2009 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
That is the question for students to explore. Is there such a thing as
sustainable tourism which does not cause environmental degradation or
challenge cultural integrity?  Hope so, because I like ot travel
but...

On Nov 2, 8:09 am, "J.Davis" <jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au> wrote:


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Malcolm M  
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From: Malcolm M <malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:01:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 12:01 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
I agree, that must be one of the big questions in the mix. Is it just
about numbers though?  Are there other cultural agendas needing to be
explored by the geography student?

On Nov 3, 9:22 am, Trish Harris <thar...@ais.wa.edu.au> wrote:


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From: "J.Davis" <jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:49:44 +1000
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 12:49 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Earlier this year I visited Cairns so I could experience the Great Barrier
Reef and the rianforest. On returning to school I spoke to my students about
the guilt I felt while visiting the reef. I was devastated to see the poor
condition of the reef, we hear so much about it but it was shocking to
actually see it. While there I was talking to an environmentalist who was
beratting tourists and visitors to the reef outlining the damage they cause
through; walking on the reef ( i was not guilty of this), boat and anchor
damage (maybe guilty given I was on a charter boat),pollution from boats
such as rubbish, waser water(maybe guilty given I was on a charter boat),
sunblock in the water (guilty i was snorkeling and swimming), disruption to
habitats by the mere presence of people (guilty). Which started me thinking
that in some ways I was contributing to the damage and asking did I really
needed to be there....I did not feel the same in the rainforest probably
because the damage is mitigated somewhat and not as visible as the dying
reef.


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Pat Beeson  
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From: "Pat Beeson" <pabee...@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:06:04 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 2:06 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Don't forget the physical links too.  How should drainage basins/coastal
areas be managed for a sustainable future?
Pat


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Malcolm M  
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From: Malcolm M <malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:10:31 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 5:10 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Hi John
          Is the question, should the Government/society determine
what is to be grown based on sustainability, not the free market
economy?
Mal

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SASOSE Council (Adele Pring)  
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From: "SASOSE Council (Adele Pring)" <sas...@adam.com.au>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:05:41 +1030
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 5:35 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
I think questions date easily and are often value laden. Better for
students to come up with their own questions, with relevant hints at the
time, if needed.
Adele Pring

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SASOSE Council (Adele Pring)  
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From: "SASOSE Council (Adele Pring)" <sas...@adam.com.au>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:51:10 +1030
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 7:21 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Hello again,
Maybe my big question is whether geography as a discipline alone can
adequately address questions such as Australian (or world) population
carrying capacity, growth, and what can be done about it because it has
to include perspectives of ethics, politics, religion, culture,
economics, history, philosophy, science, technology, media, sociology.

Who are 'we'? Who does 'our' as in 'our options' refer to? An old
Aboriginal friend, now deceased, when asked what he wanted for the
future, answered 'Can we have Australia back?'

Most of us come from a long line of invaders and 'we' haven't stopped.
'Invasion' is such an emotive word and 'settlers' seems so peaceful but
who does the pervasive dispossessing?

I hope we allow students to explore scenarios, ideas and concepts
without weighing them down with guilt or being too righteous. Who is
right? What is sustainable? Perhaps only insects. I hope that students
leave school realising that there are no simple solutions to complex
issues, to understand and hopefully apply basics of ethics, to have
first-hand awareness of more natural environments/ecosystems than school
and home, their interdependence with other humans, species and the land
and sea, live relatively simply, waste not. So maybe some big questions are:

    * what is sustainable, what makes it sustainable?
    * what is ethics, how can I be more ethical?
    * what happens to my non-recycled waste, how can I live more simply
      and waste less?
    * am I healthy, how can I improve my health, how can I improve the
      health of my environment?
    * what do I know about my local ecosystem, how can I protect/improve it?
    * what do I know about Indigenous Australians, how can we make the
      future better for all?
    * how can we work together to leave the world a better place when we
      depart?

Adele Pring .

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Adele Pring
SASOSE Council
PO Box 54
Prospect Hill SA 5201
Tel: 08 8536 6133 (after hours only)
Mobile: 0429 366 133 (daytime hours only)
Email: sas...@activ8.net.au
www.groups.edna.edu.au/sasose
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Sorensen, Lucie  
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From: "Sorensen, Lucie" <lucie.soren...@acara.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:12:47 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 5:12 pm
Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Dear all (great initiative Mal)
Okay
Big geographical questions - some thoughts
I have deep reservations about issues based geography while I think its good to have the discussions surrounding globalisation, tourism etc etc. Geography is part of the puzzle in responding to these issues. To claim them as "ours" is part of the reason geography has lost its way. I think in schools the big geographical questions come from geographical knowledge understanding and skills that we want students to learn. (I like the WA organisers just as I like the conceptual organisers of place, space and systems,)
Some big geographical questions
What is a place?
Where is this place, people, goods, services? How does location impact on the distribution? What makes a place wild, extreme, urban, rural, mine, local, regional, national etc etc and how can we tell this from our observations of the world? How are local and distant places similar and different? What are the processes that form and shape them and the varying cultures that live in them? What is scale, distance etc etc? What is being done what could be done to live well in this place ?(depending on the scale of study )How does distribution , flows of capital, labour, information, goods reveal itself in patterns? What tools/skills can we use to discern these locations (absolute and relative) flows and distributions? These are big questions, they are geographical in focus not sociological as some of the other proposed big questions and they build in students the confidence to tackle issues? Globalisation tourism sustainability will throw themselves on the plate as a result of the discovery, exploration of the connections between people and their environments but it is not the place to start. Agree with Adele students through their exploration and observation of places and people and the connections between them should be able to come to these questions and their own conclusions. This for me is the beauty of geographical studies.
Regards
Lucie
Lucie Sorensen
Senior Project Officer (Geography)
Australian Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority (ACARA)
Level 5 | 440 Collins Street | PO Box 177 } Carlton South | Victoria 3053
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J.Davis  
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From: "J.Davis" <jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:16:33 +1000
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 5:16 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
If we look at Climate Change Adaptation policies in Queensland one of the
initiatives is to change agricultural practices to be better suited to
projected climate changes which is what we should be doing without the
threats imposed by climate change - growing cotton for example, a water
thirsty crop in a country that is the driest on earth, is completely
implausible, but we do it! So I would argue that no we should not leave
market forces to decide but rather be growing sustainable crops that meet
the needs of our population. A recent Time magazine article highlights the
need for farming to return to a sustainable, subsistence practice to address
issues of food security across the globe not just in developing countries.


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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:43:19 +1030
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: RE: The Big Questions

Should sustainability be the driving force behind agricultural decisions? Like it.

John Coop
Head of Geography

'Be first, be strong, believe'

________________________________

From: Malcolm M [mailto:malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 3/11/2009 20:40
To: 21st Century Geography in Australian schools
Subject: Re: The Big Questions

Hi John
          Is the question, should the Government/society determine
what is to be grown based on sustainability, not the free market
economy?
Mal

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:45:30 +1030
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Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Like they say in The Matrix, we are a virus. We consume the host then move on. How about back to Geography though.

John Coop
Head of Geography

'Be first, be strong, believe'

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From: SASOSE Council (Adele Pring) [mailto:sas...@adam.com.au]
Sent: Tue 3/11/2009 22:51
To: 21st-century-geography-in-australian-schools@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Big Questions

Hello again,
Maybe my big question is whether geography as a discipline alone can
adequately address questions such as Australian (or world) population
carrying capacity, growth, and what can be done about it because it has
to include perspectives of ethics, politics, religion, culture,
economics, history, philosophy, science, technology, media, sociology.

Who are 'we'? Who does 'our' as in 'our options' refer to? An old
Aboriginal friend, now deceased, when asked what he wanted for the
future, answered 'Can we have Australia back?'

Most of us come from a long line of invaders and 'we' haven't stopped.
'Invasion' is such an emotive word and 'settlers' seems so peaceful but
who does the pervasive dispossessing?

I hope we allow students to explore scenarios, ideas and concepts
without weighing them down with guilt or being too righteous. Who is
right? What is sustainable? Perhaps only insects. I hope that students
leave school realising that there are no simple solutions to complex
issues, to understand and hopefully apply basics of ethics, to have
first-hand awareness of more natural environments/ecosystems than school
and home, their interdependence with other humans, species and the land
and sea, live relatively simply, waste not. So maybe some big questions are:

    * what is sustainable, what makes it sustainable?
    * what is ethics, how can I be more ethical?
    * what happens to my non-recycled waste, how can I live more simply
      and waste less?
    * am I healthy, how can I improve my health, how can I improve the
      health of my environment?
    * what do I know about my local ecosystem, how can I protect/improve it?
    * what do I know about Indigenous Australians, how can we make the
      future better for all?
    * how can we work together to leave the world a better place when we
      depart?

Adele Pring .

--
Regards,
Adele Pring
SASOSE Council
PO Box 54
Prospect Hill SA 5201
Tel: 08 8536 6133 (after hours only)
Mobile: 0429 366 133 (daytime hours only)
Email: sas...@activ8.net.au
www.groups.edna.edu.au/sasose
www.groups.edna.edu.au/songs

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:52:51 +1030
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 6:22 pm
Subject: RE: The Big Questions
Some from Physical Geog....

Are soils more important than drainage basins?
Is managed retreat the saviour of our coasts?
Will migration save Australia?
Are natural hazards unmanageable?

John Coop
Head of Geography

'Be first, be strong, believe'

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From: J.Davis [mailto:jda...@vnc.qld.edu.au]
Sent: Wed 4/11/2009 8:46
To: 21st-century-geography-in-australian-schools@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Big Questions

If we look at Climate Change Adaptation policies in Queensland one of the
initiatives is to change agricultural practices to be better suited to
projected climate changes which is what we should be doing without the
threats imposed by climate change - growing cotton for example, a water
thirsty crop in a country that is the driest on earth, is completely
implausible, but we do it! So I would argue that no we should not leave
market forces to decide but rather be growing sustainable crops that meet
the needs of our population. A recent Time magazine article highlights the
need for farming to return to a sustainable, subsistence practice to address
issues of food security across the globe not just in developing countries.


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From: Malcolm M <malcolm.mciner...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:28:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
Agree Lucy (and Adele) but as geographers I think these are
discussions on the big questions we need to have before we develop the
"will be taught" aspects of a currciulum.  Why are we teaching
geography?  What is the role of geogrpahy in a student developing as
an active citizens?  Maybe it is the discussion(not recession)
Australia has to have!

Here is another question (big is for the discussion to decide)

Does intercultural understanding require geographical knowledge?

Mal

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From: Rebecca Nicholas <bec.ni...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 01:42:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 4:42 am
Subject: Re: The Big Questions
What is the role of geography in a student developing as an active
citizens?

I think that Geography is one of the best subjects to do this.... by
looking at most topics students are able to use their geographical
knowledge to look at the impacts an issue is having, and then make a
decision by looking at various strategies... This is the bit I love
teaching because students can go through this process and feel like
they really know what is going on. It is even better when they say "I
don't get why the local government doesn't change this' and we write a
letter to the local council and in some cases, something happens.

It doesn't always matter what the actual content you are studying is,
as long as in this case there is a local case study you can get the
kids thinking about....

I am not sure what other subjects allow kids that satisfaction of
'doing something' and understanding why they are doing it...

I could be biased though...

Bec

PS - Check out this link for the future in spatial technologies in
phones - GIS in action - i love it... imagine if kids could develop
maps like this for phones for various field trips etc. I think it
would be awesome -
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/smartphone-apps/hold-the-phone-...

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