I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ?
I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
> > hello jackie, i cannot agree more with the views you,ve stated. i
> > first noticed a "quickening " in the year 2003, that was also the
> > same time i knew there was something inside me changing, something
> > that i was supposed to do but didnt know what. i am glad i am not the
> > only one and crazy. but in the years since, i,ve come to learn for
> > myself to put everything in Jesus,s hands, i just lay all my needs
> > wonderings, worries at his feet.. and i know now that i should be
> > getting the word out more about 2012 and how Jesus is involved without
> > being afraid of being labeled an idiot. remember the plackard carrying
> > people saying the end is near back in the 60,s and so on? maybe they
> > were,nt nuts, just way ahead of their time!!, and i know there are
> > other things i should be doing right now and i dont believe stock
> > piling is one of them, but there is something i,m sure will come to me
> > when it is suppose to. take care and peace to you and yours
> > On Apr 8, 11:34 am, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > The following message was sent to my Inbox, instead of the group, so I
> > > am reposting it on the member's behalf. It is from Jules:
> > > Jackie
> > > ........................................................................... ... ............................................................
> > > There is something happening to all of us. Something that is
> > > inexplicable. There is a quickening that we have all been
> > > experiencing. Things are moving faster and faster. At first when you
> > > feel it, you notice that the days seem to be passing before you
> > > realize it, then the weeks, and months and suddenly an entire year has
> > > come and gone.. When quickenings occur, at some point there is a
> > > quantum shift. It could be a jump in evolution, a jump in our
> > > technology, a jump that happens like flipping a light switch. We
> > > cannot go on for too long a period without having this jump. As we
> > > approach 2012 more and more people are experiencing this quickening,
> > > and are attempting to put some kind of meaning to it. I believe that
> > > we approaching this shift and the fact that we are here to experience
> > > it is really exciting, but for some it will be terrifying. The amount
> > > of knowledge one is willing to digest in preparation for this shift
> > > will be key in how they percieve the actual change. I will give you
> > > some time to consider this and be back to post shortly. Know that it
> > > is not all about prediction or prophecy with regard to the events of
> > > and leading up to December 12, 2012. It is actually happening now.
> > > As more people come to be aware of the shifting, there will be more
> > > acknowledgement of it, for there will be no other explanation.- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
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My Dear Willy, how prescious your messaGE WAS!!! I'D BE DELIGHTED TO KNOW YOU BETTER AND HOW EXCITING THAT YOU ARE indian?? is that a fair assumption with no wrong phrasing? i do apologize for my unwarrented criticism of your ideasI HONESTLY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, I ONLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL MEANING OF WHAT YOU SAY, AND BELIEVE EVERYONE POSSESSES A VALID VIEWPOINT & MY IGNORANCE CAN EASILY DEPRIVE ME OF GRASPING THEM SO PERHAPS I TRY TOO HARD TO KNOW. I'M FULL OF ALL KINDS OF QUESTIONS ALREADY, THERE is nothing extrordinary about me
except perhaps feeling so young after outliving most of my friends & family at 80.
I FEEL MORE LIKE A CHILD WANDERING IN A WILDERNESS, I'm fascinated by
the terrors that face the world I HAVE SO LITTLE TO LOSE fear is not a problem
Other cultures interest me, when you SAID INDIA i thought of "The far pavilions"
instead of the English conquests. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRULY iNDIAN THINGS
OUT IN THE WORLD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CURRY, THE ONLY DIALECT I
CAN THINK OF IS FARSI AS TO WORLD LEADERS ghandi was one of the greatest
Mohandas i mean although i don't know that much about INDIRA. WHAT A MAJOR
CALAMITY TO HAVE LOST HIM, I HOPE YOU ARE VERY PROUD TO COME FROM The same country How have his policies fared? i'd like to hear what you think, and i apologize for not being more your contemporary. i was a "bookworm" during the first half of my life, perhaps i've said enough that you can find something you feel moved to respond to??? Yours, Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice.. once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners.. wonderful !
I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original translations of the Sumerian Tablets. I find Sitchin difficult to read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a
MY DEAR DWIJA, how generous of you to send me your photo, Girls these days
would call you, "Drop Dead Gorgeous" in my country to indicate extreme handsomeness you are no longer a "youth" so most of your personal problems are
behind you and you can now concentrate on unimportant trivialities like the war that is raging in your world neighborhood. if you should feel like responding to this Email, i'd be interested to know you views on the pervasive unrest that seems to dominate the world Bibi NETANYAHU IS ONE OF MY HEROES BECAUSE OF THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR HIS COUNTRY, AND THE WORLD LEADER HE IS. HE IS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL PRETTY MUCH ALONE IN FIGHTING OFF IRAN AND I'M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY FOR NOT TAKING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN SUPPORTING OUR ALLIES. NOT BEING THERE MYSELF LEAVES ME NEVER
BEING SURE I REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, HERE WE ARE WITH A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, OF ALL THE UNTHINKABLE THINGS. A MAN WHO CONSIDERS US INFIDELS BENEATH ALLAH'S NOTICE, AND WHOSE RELIGION
GUARANTEES HIM "BROWNIE POINTS" FOR KILLING INFIDELS[ANOTHER american aphorism "Brownies" is the name chosen by a group of small girls who patterned their group after the Boy Scouts,]and award their members
"points"for good behavior OH, If only life could have stayed that sweet & simple.
Actually if I GOT MY WISH I'D PROBABLY FIND IT BORING. NOT THAT I NEED
MURDER FOR BOREDOM RELIEF. WELL I'LL HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU, YOUR FRIENDLY GROUP-MEMBER. [dorothy], Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
Dorothy,
I think its really great that you are watching and being alert to the world around you. So many people are ready to say that recognizing truth is being "negative". So many want to bury their heads in the sand and hope it will all go away by thinking "positive" thoughts. It's not negative to be prepared...I doubt anyone would consider a smoke alarm in a house a negative thing. We don't like to hear it sound off, but it has an important function in alerting us to danger. Keep up the good work! :)
Krysti
________________________________
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
To: Group <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 6:31:07 PM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
MY DEAR DWIJA, how generous of you to send me your photo, Girls these days
would call you, "Drop Dead Gorgeous" in my country to indicate extreme handsomeness you are no longer a "youth" so most of your personal problems are
behind you and you can now concentrate on unimportant trivialities like the war that is raging in your world neighborhood. if you should feel like responding to this Email, i'd be interested to know you views on the pervasive unrest that seems to dominate the world Bibi NETANYAHU IS ONE OF MY HEROES BECAUSE OF THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR HIS COUNTRY, AND THE WORLD LEADER HE IS. HE IS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL PRETTY MUCH ALONE IN FIGHTING OFF IRAN AND I'M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY FOR NOT TAKING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN SUPPORTING OUR ALLIES. NOT BEING THERE MYSELF LEAVES ME NEVER
BEING SURE I REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, HERE WE ARE WITH A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, OF ALL THE UNTHINKABLE THINGS. A MAN WHO CONSIDERS US INFIDELS BENEATH ALLAH'S NOTICE, AND WHOSE RELIGION
GUARANTEES HIM "BROWNIE POINTS" FOR KILLING INFIDELS[ANOTHER american aphorism "Brownies" is the name chosen by a group of small girls who patterned their group after the Boy Scouts,]and award their members
"points"for good behavior OH, If only life could have stayed that sweet & simple.
Actually if I GOT MY WISH I'D PROBABLY FIND IT BORING. NOT THAT I NEED
MURDER FOR BOREDOM RELIEF. WELL I'LL HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU, YOUR FRIENDLY GROUP-MEMBER. [dorothy], Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ?
I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
> > hello jackie, i cannot agree more with the views you,ve stated. i
> > first noticed a "quickening " in the year 2003, that was also the
> > same time i knew there was something inside me changing, something
> > that i was supposed to do but didnt know what. i am glad i am not the
> > only one and crazy. but in the years since, i,ve come to learn for
> > myself to put everything in Jesus,s hands, i just lay all my needs
> > wonderings, worries at his feet.. and i know now that i should be
> > getting the word out more about 2012 and how Jesus is involved without
> > being afraid of being labeled an idiot. remember the plackard carrying
> > people saying the end is near back in the 60,s and so on? maybe they
> > were,nt nuts, just way ahead of their time!!, and i know there are
> > other things i should be doing right now and i dont believe stock
> > piling is one of them, but there is something i,m sure will come to me
> > when it is suppose to. take care and peace to you and yours
> > On Apr 8, 11:34 am, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > The following message was sent to my Inbox, instead of the group, so I
> > > am reposting it on the member's behalf. It is from Jules:
> > > Jackie
> > > ........................................................................... ...
dear Dwija, i apologize to you for any rudeness, shortness, or other uncalled for responses, on my part, i believe i've recovered my perspective and hope to not disappoint any of you in the future. i probably won't ever see INDIA, AT LEAST NOT IN THIS LIFETIME. but who knows? the bible is quite positive on the subject of "only one life to a customer but since it was compiled from an over-abundance of available
material, perhaps some mogul of the future will command another or expanded version of the Bible we know? or perhaps even another author will come up with a super best-seller and sweep the imaginations of humanity? he'll have no problem if his readers are as susceptible as I am. since we are not constituted to read the future we can only guess or speculate upon what life holds for us. i've had a comparatively nice time of it so have no fear of what's to come. or even not to come, except i know i'll be disappointed if I never see any of the people i have loved, but only in the event of being able to feel anything "on the other side." my sons believe
they're going to face oblivion., of course in my case i'll start as a pile of greasey ashes, my husband and I HAD AN EYE OUT FOR the world we're leaving
and didn't want to leave it worse for us having been here so we opted for cremation If I should succumb to the congestive heart-failure the medicos tell me I have before I get sick please know you've all added a great deal of pleasure to my life. this is just in case. and does not bid you goodbye yet. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey Dwija !
I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice.. once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners.. wonderful !
I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original translations of the Sumerian Tablets. I find Sitchin difficult to read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
We'll chat soon !
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan...
I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Lewis To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey Dwija !
I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice.. once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners.. wonderful !
I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original translations of the Sumerian Tablets. I find Sitchin difficult to read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
We'll chat soon !
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
dear Dwija, let's try to let our horrible misunderstanding go, and recover our losses? it was all my fault and i couldn't express how deeply I feel the loss, could you give me another chance to be a human being? yours Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
> > hello jackie, i cannot agree more with the views you,ve stated. i
> > first noticed a "quickening " in the year 2003, that was also the
> > same time i knew there was something inside me changing, something
> > that i was supposed to do but didnt know what. i am glad i am not the
> > only one and crazy. but in the years since, i,ve come to learn for
> > myself to put everything in Jesus,s hands, i just lay all my needs
> > wonderings, worries at his feet.. and i know now that i should be
> > getting the word out more about 2012 and how Jesus is involved without
> > being afraid of being labeled an idiot. remember the plackard carrying
> > people saying the end is near back in the 60,s and so on? maybe they
> > were,nt nuts, just way ahead of their time!!, and i know there are
> > other things i should be doing right now and i dont believe stock
dear Kristi, yes i've been informed that you don't want to hear from any of our group,
butIi wish TO EXPRESS MY DISTRESS TO YOU OVER THE PAIN YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, AND HOPE THAT THE PLIGHT OF OTHERS WILL NOT CAUSE YOU
ANY UNDUE SORROW, I'VE BEEN HERE [ALIVE] FOR 80 YEARS NOW AND STILL HAVE NOT EITHER WORKED OUT A SURE-FIRE FOOL-PROOF FORMULA
FOR LIVING "RIGHT" IF A HEART CAN BE BROKEN THEN IT MUST BE MADE
FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN MUSCLE, I HAD MINE OPERATED ON ONCE
BUT THE SURGEON NEVER SAID HE FOUND ANY PORCELAIN, OR GLASS ACTUALLY THE MOST INTERESTING HEART-FACT I'VE HEARD LATELY IS THAT
HEART-LIKE TISSUE HAS BEEN FOUND ELSEWHERE IN THE BODY, OH! DAMN!! MY EYES!! [<A PIRATE EPITHET!] I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE BUT IT
WAS ASSOCIATED WITH FEELING, WELL I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY INFORMANT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. SO! am I TO ASSUME FROM YOUR LAST E-MAIL THAT YOU ARE A TRUTH-SEEKER? CONGRATULATIONS
AND WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF HARD-KNOCKS, DISILLUSION, AND
FRUSTRATION TO MENTION JUST A FEW, STRANGELY ENOUGH, I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE TALENT TO OVER-LOOK A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENTS AND THE PERSISTENCE TO KEEP ON GOING, OR WOULD THAT COME UNDER THE HEAD OF STUPIDITY yes!! obviously because i don't have your address except
your mail coming from the group. well i guess you'll never know i wrote now,
sorry, and i'll wish you love, joy in the morning, sunshine all day & peace of mind. dorothy/ Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Krysti Rooks To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Dorothy,
I think its really great that you are watching and being alert to the world around you. So many people are ready to say that recognizing truth is being "negative". So many want to bury their heads in the sand and hope it will all go away by thinking "positive" thoughts. It's not negative to be prepared...I doubt anyone would consider a smoke alarm in a house a negative thing. We don't like to hear it sound off, but it has an important function in alerting us to danger. Keep up the good work! :)
Krysti
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
To: Group <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 6:31:07 PM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
MY DEAR DWIJA, how generous of you to send me your photo, Girls these days
would call you, "Drop Dead Gorgeous" in my country to indicate extreme handsomeness you are no longer a "youth" so most of your personal problems are
behind you and you can now concentrate on unimportant trivialities like the war that is raging in your world neighborhood. if you should feel like responding to this Email, i'd be interested to know you views on the pervasive unrest that seems to dominate the world Bibi NETANYAHU IS ONE OF MY HEROES BECAUSE OF THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR HIS COUNTRY, AND THE WORLD LEADER HE IS. HE IS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL PRETTY MUCH ALONE IN FIGHTING OFF IRAN AND I'M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY FOR NOT TAKING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN SUPPORTING OUR ALLIES. NOT BEING THERE MYSELF LEAVES ME NEVER
BEING SURE I REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, HERE WE ARE WITH A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, OF ALL THE UNTHINKABLE THINGS. A MAN WHO CONSIDERS US INFIDELS BENEATH ALLAH'S NOTICE, AND WHOSE RELIGION
GUARANTEES HIM "BROWNIE POINTS" FOR KILLING INFIDELS[ANOTHER american aphorism "Brownies" is the name chosen by a group of small girls who patterned their group after the Boy Scouts,]and award their members
"points"for good behavior OH, If only life could have stayed that sweet & simple.
Actually if I GOT MY WISH I'D PROBABLY FIND IT BORING. NOT THAT I NEED
MURDER FOR BOREDOM RELIEF. WELL I'LL HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU, YOUR FRIENDLY GROUP-MEMBER. [dorothy], Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ? I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
Kristi preferred to walk on her own lane- and sing her own song. Expressing your distress may only add to her pain. Let's respect her wish. Rather we should sing- " One day at a time sweet Jesus... Tomorrow you will never be mine...
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 4:04 AM
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dear Kristi, yes i've been informed that you don't want to hear from any of our group,
butIi wish TO EXPRESS MY DISTRESS TO YOU OVER THE PAIN YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH, AND HOPE THAT THE PLIGHT OF OTHERS WILL NOT CAUSE YOU
ANY UNDUE SORROW, I'VE BEEN HERE [ALIVE] FOR 80 YEARS NOW AND STILL HAVE NOT EITHER WORKED OUT A SURE-FIRE FOOL-PROOF FORMULA
FOR LIVING "RIGHT" IF A HEART CAN BE BROKEN THEN IT MUST BE MADE
FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN MUSCLE, I HAD MINE OPERATED ON ONCE
BUT THE SURGEON NEVER SAID HE FOUND ANY PORCELAIN, OR GLASS ACTUALLY THE MOST INTERESTING HEART-FACT I'VE HEARD LATELY IS THAT
HEART-LIKE TISSUE HAS BEEN FOUND ELSEWHERE IN THE BODY, OH! DAMN!! MY EYES!! [<A PIRATE EPITHET!] I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE BUT IT
WAS ASSOCIATED WITH FEELING, WELL I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY INFORMANT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. SO! am I TO ASSUME FROM YOUR LAST E-MAIL THAT YOU ARE A TRUTH-SEEKER? CONGRATULATIONS
AND WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF HARD-KNOCKS, DISILLUSION, AND
FRUSTRATION TO MENTION JUST A FEW, STRANGELY ENOUGH, I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE TALENT TO OVER-LOOK A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENTS AND THE PERSISTENCE TO KEEP ON GOING, OR WOULD THAT COME UNDER THE HEAD OF STUPIDITY yes!! obviously because i don't have your address except
your mail coming from the group. well i guess you'll never know i wrote now,
sorry, and i'll wish you love, joy in the morning, sunshine all day & peace of mind. dorothy/ Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Krysti Rooks To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Dorothy,
I think its really great that you are watching and being alert to the world around you. So many people are ready to say that recognizing truth is being "negative". So many want to bury their heads in the sand and hope it will all go away by thinking "positive" thoughts. It's not negative to be prepared...I doubt anyone would consider a smoke alarm in a house a negative thing. We don't like to hear it sound off, but it has an important function in alerting us to danger. Keep up the good work! :)
Krysti
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
To: Group <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 6:31:07 PM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
MY DEAR DWIJA, how generous of you to send me your photo, Girls these days
would call you, "Drop Dead Gorgeous" in my country to indicate extreme handsomeness you are no longer a "youth" so most of your personal problems are
behind you and you can now concentrate on unimportant trivialities like the war that is raging in your world neighborhood. if you should feel like responding to this Email, i'd be interested to know you views on the pervasive unrest that seems to dominate the world Bibi NETANYAHU IS ONE OF MY HEROES BECAUSE OF THE THINGS HE'S DONE FOR HIS COUNTRY, AND THE WORLD LEADER HE IS. HE IS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL PRETTY MUCH ALONE IN FIGHTING OFF IRAN AND I'M ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY FOR NOT TAKING A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN SUPPORTING OUR ALLIES. NOT BEING THERE MYSELF LEAVES ME NEVER
BEING SURE I REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, HERE WE ARE WITH A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, OF ALL THE UNTHINKABLE THINGS. A MAN WHO CONSIDERS US INFIDELS BENEATH ALLAH'S NOTICE, AND WHOSE RELIGION
GUARANTEES HIM "BROWNIE POINTS" FOR KILLING INFIDELS[ANOTHER american aphorism "Brownies" is the name chosen by a group of small girls who patterned their group after the Boy Scouts,]and award their members
"points"for good behavior OH, If only life could have stayed that sweet & simple.
Actually if I GOT MY WISH I'D PROBABLY FIND IT BORING. NOT THAT I NEED
MURDER FOR BOREDOM RELIEF. WELL I'LL HOPE TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU, YOUR FRIENDLY GROUP-MEMBER. [dorothy], Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ?
I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift
I am really embarrased by the use of your semantics especially on forgiveness and stuff like that. Honestly I don't think I can qualify myself to be bestowed with such articulations. Let's feel equal in all respect which can bring forth wonderful feelings.
What is God depends on what u understand by God. Your husband can also be also be God , if u think that way. Believe me, traditional thoughts amongst Indian women were as if their husbands were their respective God.
However our Generation is not that lucky..such ethos are fast eroding- rather becoming topsy turvy( Joke). My wife is my God in the true sense. She seems to know everything about it, cares everything about me.. Should not she my God ?
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 3:30 AM
DEAR DWIJA, I AM INVOKING MY PERSONAL Christian GOD TO PREVAIL UPON
YOUR FORGIVENESS & DEEPER UNDERSTANDING He is the God who created
LILLITH [FOUND IN THE 1ST BIBLE CHAP."GENESIS" & ALTHOUGH MOST CHRISTIANS CLAIM GOD CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE BECAUSE HE'S PERFECT. I THINK THEY SHOULD REVIEW THE STORY OF LILLITH BEFORE CONCLUDING THAT. SHE IS ONLY REFERRED TO ONCE AGAIN LATER IN THE BIBLE AFTER SHE TURNS INTO A SCREECH-OWL I THINK He'S MORE LOVEABLE AS IMPERFECT, AT LEAST TO A HUMAN I'VE ALREADY LOST ONE FRIEND OVER THIS CHARACTER, MAYBE EVEN 2 OR 3? I'M HOPING
NOW THAT SHE WILL SERVE TO SAVE ONE. I, AS YOU MAY realize. i didn't
need to botch up our friendship to learn i'm imperfect, obviously i honestly
don't know if it is possible to love another person without ever seeing them.
but God asks us to love him in advance of seeing him my fear has long been
that adoring my husband as I DID,above any other entity. might disappoint Him [God] I BELIEVE THIS HAS SERVED TO GET MY POINT ACROSS TO YOU
YOUR SINCERE FRIEND, Dee Lewis, i will stand back and wait to see if GOD
HAS WROUGHT A MIRACLE FOR ME.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Let's forget about the little misunderstanding for which I assume the responsibility. My apology if u have felt otherwise. I am leaving for Sikkim tonight. India is a very big country and is called the epitome of the world. Whatever natural beauty can be found in the world, must be there in India. Hence you will find every bit of everywhere in India.
--- On Mon, 18/5/09, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 4:48 AM
i'm embarrassed to realize I answered your message to another AS THOUGH IT WERE ADDRESSED TO ME DUE TO MY CARELESS READING. BUT I'M GLAD
NOW THAT I did even though I TOOK YOUR MESSAGE AS AN INSULT I must be confused as to the processes required to transfer our messages to one another, must they all be rerouted through the group? or are we in direct contact with one another which seems likely if i'm interpreting our email addresses correctly. but i'm such a computer klutz i can't even trust my own observations. right now you are in SIKKIM? for the rest of the month.the T.V, news often shows it's viewers a lot of rough looking area in Pakistan & Afghanistan? is that characteristic of the India you live in? I've been to Shang-HAI.CHINA , TIAWAN, Thialand, Which I thought once was Burma I never took an interest in geography as a student, so I can be termed "globally "challenged" i am counting the days until you'll return to your computer which you obviously didn't take with you. I enjoy your very interesting Emails and can think of many things i'd like to discuss
with you If you
remain available. Sincerely yours, Dorothy/ Dee LEWIS.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ?
I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
> > hello jackie, i cannot agree more with the views you,ve stated. i
> > first noticed a "quickening " in the year 2003, that was also the
> > same time i knew there was something inside me changing, something
> > that i was supposed to do but didnt know what. i am glad i am not the
> > only one and crazy. but in the years since, i,ve come to learn for
> > myself to put everything in Jesus,s hands, i just lay all my needs
> > wonderings, worries at his feet.. and i know now that i should be
> > getting the word out more about 2012 and how Jesus is involved without
> > being afraid of being labeled an idiot. remember the plackard carrying
> > people saying the end is near back in the 60,s and so on? maybe they
> > were,nt nuts, just way ahead of their time!!, and i know there are
> > other things i should be doing right now and i dont believe stock
> > piling is one of them, but there is something i,m sure will come to me
> > when it is suppose to. take care and peace to you and yours
> > On Apr 8, 11:34 am, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > The following message was sent to my Inbox, instead of the group, so I
> > > am reposting it on the member's behalf. It is from Jules:
> > > Jackie
Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that
will happen.
--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
Dear Dorothy,
Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan...
I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Lewis To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey Dwija !
I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice.. once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners... wonderful !
I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original translations of the Sumerian Tablets. I find Sitchin difficult to read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
We'll chat soon !
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Oh my God!!! Nothing less than Pope amongst mortals can deserve such utterances across confession box- leave aside me who is too insignificant to cope up being a Pope. Thanks a million for ur generosity.
--- On Mon, 1/6/09, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
From: Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 1:23 AM
dear Dwija, let's try to let our horrible misunderstanding go, and recover our losses? it was all my fault and i couldn't express how deeply I feel the loss, could you give me another chance to be a human being? yours Dee Lewis.
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Dy.
I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical humanism- which is so soothing once we delve into it.
If the link does not work, you may copy and paste the address on navigation tool bar of your browser- which I am sure is needless to mention.
I look forward to hear your comments.
Bye for now, Cheers!!!!!!
Dwijadas (My name is pronounced as D.Joe which I write as Dwija.)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
Hey ! What's going on here? Is it necessary to have this negativity present with this type of forum? I agree, ego should not be a factor here! We all have a different perspective and we must remember that if something raises our ire then it is probably intended by the Universe.. for growth and learning... refer to my last passage on our evolution .. leaving those energies behind & knowing I have learned the lessons is my path to my future.. I am not saying that I have achieved this (PMS is quite a challenge !) but I know in the deepest recesses of my soul that this it the path that I am choosing ! Intent, Intent, Intent !!!!!
PS, where are you from Dwijadas?
L&L
Dy
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey, that's a very unusual reaction. In our discussion, I expect, our individual ego should not come in the way in receiving the opinions, which we may not like. It is obvious you don't know my name. Same with me that I have not heard your name either prior this communication. So what ? How does it make you special in being limited to not speaking more than English or whatever ?
I only voiced my opinion and hence I don't subscribe to your interpretation of my perspective as an attempt to identify your "stupidity" or similar semantics. However I am sorry if u have felt otherwise.
Regards,
D. Ghosal
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Dorothy Lewis <dorothyle...@wildblue.net> wrote:
if you are accusing me of something i'd like to know what it is, stupidity? i'm limited in not speaking more than English & a few words of French & Spaniah i don't even know who dwilidas is your challenged group member. Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Why are you dying before death. If our days are numbered by providence, so be it. That's gonna be also a jouney. Journey to the the ultima thule. It will open up the door for unknown. Is not exciting?
--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: "2012predictions" <2012predictions@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 12:28 PM
Hi Julianne
I also think there is little we can do on a materialistic plane if
anything does happen. Survival is a basic human instinct, and of
course that is where quite a few minds are going - how can I and my
loved ones survive? I ask if it matters? - what will be, will be. Even
if you survive this, you will still "die" - or pass over - at some
later point. The human race does not "own" this world, much as it
likes to think it does.
Jackie
On Apr 14, 3:13 am, juliannestr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Let me be clear, this date of 2012 is not so much about a major
> catastrophe, or in trying to prepare for it...this quickening is a
> precursor to the next plane of our existence. It doesn't make any
> sense for me to stock up on water or canned goods. It is not
> something that we have to survive in these physical bodies. It isn't
> like when the power goes out from an ice storm for a few weeks, and
> you have to get by on what you have planned and prepared for. When
> this shift happens we will not be able to take anything with us. We
> will not be able to stop it. There are some really nasty things that
> are going to happen before the shift. There will be earthquakes,
> volcanic eruptions, increased storms and hurricanes, flooding and
> displacement of people. But this is not the event, these are natural
> events that are culminating at a faster rate, a sort of preface to the
> actual event. Many people will die. Many people will suffer, but
> that is only because there are more people on this planet now than
> ever in history and the numbers dictate that more will be affected.
> These people who do not make it through these catastrophes have
> nothing to fear. The energy, their life force, or soul will move on
> to the next plane too. They just won't be here to see the shift with
> their eyes.
> It isn't about politics, it isn't about geography, it isn't about
> economics....this is about all of these things combined with our
> collective consciousness. We have a very strange reality, with some
> people worrying about single materialistic things that have absolutely
> no importance at all. But this is a way for them to sidetrack their
> fear. Like a daydream of dating a member of Duran Duran during
> geometry class. I cannot stress enough that you need to really take
> your time and think things through, feel the quickening. Let it pass
> through you. See it for what it really is, that time itself is
> bending and flowing and this is a natural thing not to fear.
> On Apr 13, 11:29 am, limitlesssky <f.zoell...@live.com> wrote:
> > hello jackie, i cannot agree more with the views you,ve stated. i
> > first noticed a "quickening " in the year 2003, that was also the
> > same time i knew there was something inside me changing, something
> > that i was supposed to do but didnt know what. i am glad i am not the
> > only one and crazy. but in the years since, i,ve come to learn for
> > myself to put everything in Jesus,s hands, i just lay all my needs
> > wonderings, worries at his feet.. and i know now that i should be
> > getting the word out more about 2012 and how Jesus is involved without
> > being afraid of being labeled an idiot. remember the plackard carrying
> > people saying the end is near back in the 60,s and so on? maybe they
> > were,nt nuts, just way ahead of their time!!, and i know there are
> > other things i should be doing right now and i dont believe stock
> > piling is one of them, but there is something i,m sure will come to me
> > when it is suppose to. take care and peace to you and yours
> > On Apr 8, 11:34 am, Jackie <2012predicti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > The following message was sent to my Inbox, instead of the group, so I
> > > am reposting it on the member's behalf. It is from Jules:
> > > Jackie
> > > ........................................................................... .... ..............................................................
> > > There is something happening to all of us. Something that is
> > > inexplicable. There is a quickening that we have all been
> > > experiencing. Things are moving faster and faster. At first when you
> > > feel it, you notice that the days seem to be passing before you
> > > realize it, then the weeks, and months and suddenly an entire year has
> > > come and gone... When quickenings occur, at some point there is a
> > > quantum shift. It could be a jump in evolution, a jump in our
> > > technology, a jump that happens like flipping a light switch. We
> > > cannot go on for too long a period without having this jump. As we
> > > approach 2012 more and more people are experiencing this quickening,
> > > and are attempting to put some kind of meaning to it. I believe that
> > > we approaching this shift and the fact that we are here to experience
> > > it is really exciting, but for some it will be terrifying. The amount
> > > of knowledge one is willing to digest in preparation for this shift
> > > will be key in how they percieve the actual change. I will give you
> > > some time to consider this and be back to post shortly. Know that it
> > > is not all about prediction or prophecy with regard to the events of
> > > and leading up to December 12, 2012. It is actually happening now.
> > > As more people come to be aware of the shifting, there will be more
Diwja,
Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is
like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that
leads away from reality. How long has this planet been
here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are
killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more
stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our
lifetime. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I
used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better
there.
Kind regards always,
Alan
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL <dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common
> pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives
> 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened,
> others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the
> truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are
> being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert
> Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and
> creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the
> tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at
> large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets,
> god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he
> hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for
> the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but
> doubts that will happen.
> --- On *Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>* wrote:
> From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net>
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short
> months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in
> this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India"
> Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious
> love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing
> journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in
> "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the
> Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome
> in order to shorten our lifespan...
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult
> it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I must say that
> you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on
> for a reason !
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me
> as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe
> that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this
> doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
> Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> Dy
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dorothy Lewis<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dorothyle...@wildblue.net>
> *To:* 2012predictions@googlegroups.com<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=2012predictions@googlegr...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> *Subject:* Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> *Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India,
> and it*
> *added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the
> magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply
> quizzical about*
> *the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go
> forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly
> aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike
> anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the
> disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the
> statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the
> citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their
> perfection.*
> *the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN
> TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel.
> my*
> *husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE*
> *DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN
> COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A
> TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL
> WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO*
> *ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY*
> *CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME
> IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME.
> WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it
> to God's attention, i'm*
> *going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE
> STARTED*
> *OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW
> CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES &
> GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT,
> NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN
> NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.*
> *AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG*
> *ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE *
> *ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR
> THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's
> #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and *
> *wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like
> to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and
> clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
> *
> *years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee
> Lewis*
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dyanne Douglas-Mayer<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=myth...@telkomsa.net>
> *To:* 2012predictions@googlegroups.com<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=2012predictions@googlegr...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
> *Subject:* Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hey Dwija !
> I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the
> apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so
> little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need
> to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not
> fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it
> continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
> You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited
> on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which
> was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt
> and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates
> "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or
> "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold
> approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to
> see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred
> ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
> I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for
> economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far
> corners.. wonderful !
> I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as
> I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins..
> there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
> Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his
> work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic
> intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission
> lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named
> Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original
> translations of the Sumerian Tablets.. I find Sitchin difficult to read ..
> very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a
> logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing
> suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend
> this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
> We'll chat soon !
> L&L
> Dy
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* DWIJADAS GHOSAL<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dghos...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* 2012predictions@googlegroups.com<http://in.mc948.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=2012predictions@googlegr...>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
> *Subject:* Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hello Dy.
> I fully see eye to eye with your viewpoint albeit being somewhat crtical of
> the content of my letter . I dissapointed u, but certainly u haven't. In ur
> writing I am finding a sign of all encompassing radical
> Diwja,
> Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is
> like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that
> leads away from reality. How long has this planet been
> here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People
> are killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is
> something more stupid than that it's worrying about Nibiru.
> Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in
> our lifetime. If we lived forever I don't think we would ever become
> bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so
> much better there.
> Kind regards always,
> Alan
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common
> pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he
> receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some
> frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy
> to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary
> scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science
> writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much
> time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find
> yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and
> all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about
> clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison
> states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a
> teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and
> baloney detection, but doubts that will happen.
> --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net>
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short
> months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there
> in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of
> India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his
> obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an
> amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well
> worth it !
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with,
> in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed
> from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the
> human genome in order to shorten our lifespan...
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how
> difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I
> must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that
> you have lived on for a reason !
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for
> me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I
> believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy
> into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking
> towards the light !
> Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> Dy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Lewis
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India,
> and it
> added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the
> magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply
> quizzical about
> the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go
> forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly
> aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor
> unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot
> understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of
> the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing
> quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek
> their perfection.
> the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN
> TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I
> feel. my
> husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
> DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN
> COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO
> TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A
> WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED,
> SEEMED TO
> ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
> CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME
> IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT
> ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to
> bring it to God's attention, i'm
> going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
> OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW
> CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES &
> GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT
> EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR
> INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY
> AS I PLEASED.
> AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
> ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
> ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR
> THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the
> beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength
> and
> wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like
> to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and
> clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven
> forty
> years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hey Dwija !
> I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the
> apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so
> little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we
> need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are
> not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that
> it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
> You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited
> on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which
> was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt
> and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and
> operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree
> Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it
> was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes
> and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to
> walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return..
> hopefully one day !
> I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for
> economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far
> corners.. wonderful !
> I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially
> as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your
> veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
> Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also
> his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic
> intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission
> lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named
> Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original
> translations of the Sumerian Tablets.. I find Sitchin difficult to
> read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in
> such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some
> amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY
> recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
> We'll chat soon !
> L&L
> Dy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hello Dy.
> I
I fully see eye to eye with you on this issue. I feel fear of unknown and certain penchant for uncanny are ingrained in human psyche leading humanity to all sorts of irrational thought process.
The places where I had been in Sikkim gave me the top of the world feelings.. Yumthang, Katao, Gurudamba Lake. I agree with you, our planet is so beautiful even a life time of journey is insufficient to gauge its' diversities. I will post some of the photographs to you, if u r interested.
Those people who irrationally believe in racial supremacy miss the well established scientific point that all human being originated in Africa and we are all Afrikaners. There are remarkable similarities in human DNA leading us to accept we are all same. Probability of somebody becoming a stupid or genius is same in any cross section of humanity. Is it not a grand feeling ? True scientific thoughts can make us more human.
Bye for now. Cheers!!!!!
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 4:42 PM
Diwja,
Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that leads away from reality. How long has this planet been here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our lifetime. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better there. Kind regards always,
Alan
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL <dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that
will happen.
--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer <myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
Dear Dorothy,
Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan...
I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Lewis To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hey Dwija !
I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners... wonderful !
I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of days"....? Nibiru, the Gods, their Genetic intermingling with Homo erectus etc etc?? I have been on quite a mission lately after reading "Slave Species of god" by a South African named Michael Tellinger.. much of his reference came from Sitchins' original translations of the Sumerian Tablets.. I find Sitchin difficult to read .. very much more reference work ... but Michael has put it all in such a logical order, drawn his own parallels and come up with some amazing suggestions regarding the origins of humanity... I would HIGHLY recommend this book to EVERYONE on the planet ...
It's highly OK . Thanks for ur consideration. In fact very few people even in my community get my name correctly. Hence I am quite used to it. Moreover rule of transliteration has not been followed in firming up spelling. Many of friends write my names as Dijo articulated as D..Joe. Meaning of Dwija is twice born. Like Teeth, creatures from eggs, and so called Brahmin. Brahmin are twice born because during upanayan, they are believed to be born with knowledge of Brahma in front of Guru.
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:51 PM
Just noticed I spelled your name wrong...I apologize.
On Jun 2, 2009 7:12am, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that leads away from reality. How long has this planet been here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
>
> Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our lifetime. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better there.
> Kind regards always,
> Alan
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that
will happen.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have? > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
>
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history.... well worth it !
>
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan...
>
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
>
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
>
> Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> Dy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Lewis
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
> added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
> the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
> the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
> husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
> DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
> ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
> CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME.. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
> going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
> OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
> AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
> ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
> ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and
> wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
> years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hey Dwija !
>
> I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
>
> You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
>
> I did look at your articles page and, although I am not one much for economics, it is evident that your mind is rich and reaches into many far corners.. wonderful !
>
> I look forward to more conversations with you on this topic, especially as I know you have these seeds of Ancientness running through your veins.. there is a certain wisdom which travels such through generations!
>
> Have any of you read Sitchins work on the end of days and perhaps also his work on the "beginning of
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL <dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's highly OK . Thanks for ur consideration. In fact very few people
> even in my community get my name correctly. Hence I am quite used to it.
> Moreover rule of transliteration has not been followed in firming up
> spelling. Many of friends write my names as Dijo articulated as D.Joe.
> Meaning of Dwija is twice born. Like Teeth, creatures from eggs, and so
> called Brahmin. Brahmin are twice born because during upanayan, they are
> believed to be born with knowledge of Brahma in front of Guru.
> --- On *Tue, 2/6/09, barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>*wrote:
> From: barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:51 PM
> Just noticed I spelled your name wrong...I apologize.
> On Jun 2, 2009 7:12am, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Diwja,
> > Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is
> like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that
> leads away from reality. How long has this planet been
> here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are
> killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more
> stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
> > Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in
> our lifetime.. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored.
> I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better
> there.
> > Kind regards always,
> > Alan
> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common
> pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives
> 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened,
> others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the
> truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are
> being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert
> Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and
> creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the
> tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at
> large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets,
> god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he
> hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for
> the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but
> doubts that will happen.
> > --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> > Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> > Dear Dorothy,
> > Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short
> months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in
> this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India"
> Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious
> love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing
> journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
> > Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in
> "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the
> Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome
> in order to shorten our lifespan....
> > I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how
> difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose.... But I must
> say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have
> lived on for a reason !
> > I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for
> me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I
> believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy
> into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards
> the light !
> > Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> > Dy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dorothy Lewis
> > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> > Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India,
> and it
> > added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the
> magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply
> quizzical about
> > the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go
> forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly
> aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike
> anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the
> disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the
> statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the
> citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their
> perfection.
> > the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN
> TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel.
> my
> > husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
> > DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN
> COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A
> TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL
> WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
> > ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
> > CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME
> IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME.
> WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it
> to God's attention, i'm
> > going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE
> STARTED
> > OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW
> CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES &
> GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT,
> NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN
> NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
> > AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
> > ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
> > ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR
> THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's
> #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and
> > wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like
> to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and
> clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
> > years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee
> Lewis
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer
> > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> > Hey Dwija !
> > I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at
> the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so
> little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need
> to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not
> fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it
> continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
> > You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I
> visited on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month..
> which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos,
> dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates
> "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or
> "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold
> approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to
> see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred
> ground of The Mother each
DEAR DWIJA, I'M GLAD NONE OF MY CHILDREN DECIDED TO BE TWICE-BORN. IF YOU SHOULD EVER HAVE TIME SOME DAY, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE CASTE SYSTEMTO ME, BRIEFLY? YOU SAID ONCE,
BrahminARE BELIEVED TO BE BORN WITH KNOWLEDGE OF BRAHMA IN FRONT OF gURU. I HOPE MY CURIOSITY ABOUT THINGS SO COMMONPLACE TO YOU DON'T PESTER YOU TOO MUCH TAKE YOUR TIME & THANKYOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR PATIENCE. Dee LEWIS. I'M EMBARRASSED TO GO THROUGH THE GROUP ALL THE TIME WITH SUCH QUESTIONS, BUT CAN'T RESIST LEARNING THE REAL TRUTH.
Dee lewis DOROTHY LEWIS@ WILDBLUE.NET
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
It's highly OK . Thanks for ur consideration. In fact very few people even in my community get my name correctly. Hence I am quite used to it. Moreover rule of transliteration has not been followed in firming up spelling. Many of friends write my names as Dijo articulated as D.Joe. Meaning of Dwija is twice born. Like Teeth, creatures from eggs, and so called Brahmin. Brahmin are twice born because during upanayan, they are believed to be born with knowledge of Brahma in front of Guru.
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:51 PM
Just noticed I spelled your name wrong...I apologize.
On Jun 2, 2009 7:12am, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diwja,
> Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that leads away from reality. How long has this planet been here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
> Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our lifetime.. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better there.
> Kind regards always,
> Alan
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that will happen.
> --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have? > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan....
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose.... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
> Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> Dy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Lewis
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
> added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
> the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
> the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
> husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
> DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
> ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
> CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
> going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
> OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
> AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T
Yes. Have u gone through the article ? Your comments please.
--- On Wed, 3/6/09, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 10:46 PM
Dijo,
Are you the same Dwijadas Ghosal who wrote the article Road Map for Control of Terrorism?
Al
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL <dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's highly OK . Thanks for ur consideration. In fact very few people even in my community get my name correctly. Hence I am quite used to it. Moreover rule of transliteration has not been followed in firming up spelling. Many of friends write my names as Dijo articulated as D..Joe. Meaning of Dwija is twice born. Like Teeth, creatures from eggs, and so called Brahmin. Brahmin are twice born because during upanayan, they are believed to be born with knowledge of Brahma in front of Guru.
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:51 PM
Just noticed I spelled your name wrong...I apologize.
On Jun 2, 2009 7:12am, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that leads away from reality. How long has this planet been here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are killing each other over the color of their skin. If there is something more stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
>
> Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our lifetime.. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better there.
> Kind regards always,
> Alan
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that
will happen.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have? > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
>
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history.... well worth it !
>
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan....
>
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose.... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
>
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
>
> Thanks for the blessing.. xoxo
> Dy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dorothy Lewis
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Dear Dyanne, i just reread your fulsome account of your visits to India, and it
> added to the mystique, that marvelous living inuendo, that implies the magic of the Place. i'll never experience it firsthand, but am deeply quizzical about
> the spiritual nature that seems to emanate from it's location and go forth to select humans to disseminate it's special wisdom. Earthly aberrations are ignored, and life goes forward amid dirt & splendor unlike anything found elsewhere in the world, my Western mind cannot understand the disconnection, or the triumph of the spirit and marvels of the Wats,the statuary, and Bhuddahs [?] and the remarkable continuing quests of the citizenry who both build their visions and continually seek their perfection.
> the amazing domes and spires inlaid with goldleaf, I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN TO INDIA, but i've apparently seen her first cousin, sister? or so I feel. my
> husband and I ONCE RETIRED, AND FREE OF THE DAILY WORK ROUTINE
> DECIDED WE WOULD SEE THE WORLD BEFORE WE DIED,STARTING WITH OUR OWN COUNTRY, AND THEN EUROPE. We made it to New ENGLAND BEFORE PAUSING TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE ORIENT, WE ALSO MANAGED A TRIP TO MAZATLAN AND A WONDERFUL WINTER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE PEOPLE WE MET & BEFRIENDED, SEEMED TO
> ME TO BE THE "SALT OF THE EARTH." FOR AWHILE WE WERE WHAT THEY
> CALL "SNOWBIRDS" THE [USUALLY OLDER FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR WINTERS AT HOME IN THE NORTH, & THEIR SUMMERS IN THE SOUTH THEY'RE ALL DEAD NOW, EXCEPT ME.. WHICH SEEMS LIKE "A CRYING SHAME TO ME." If i ever have a chance to bring it to God's attention, i'm
> going to suggest that he lengthen the human lifespan, I REALIZE HE STARTED
> OUT WITH METHUZELAH-LENGTH LIFESPANS, WHICH HE REDUCED TO WHAT WE NOW CONSIDER "NORMAL", DUE TO THE SHOCKING MISBEHAVIOR OF SODOMITES & GOMORRAH-ITES. I COULD OFFER MY LIFE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HE MIGHT EXPECT, NOT PERFECT BY A LONG WAY, BUT NOT GIVEN OVER TO EXCESSES OR INDULGED IN SIN NOR PRUDISH, I'VE JUST LIVED A NORMAL? LIFE DOING EXACTLY AS I PLEASED.
> AND I'M NOT SORRY FOR HOW IT TURNED OUT, EXCEPT IT WASN'T LONG
> ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY MY MARRIAGE, [IT'S NO FUN, WORTHLESS! TO LIVE
> ALONE] I DID NOT TEACH HIS WORD, LIKE I SHOULD HAVE, AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. We have another 3 years to go before we get branded with the beast's #, right? i wish all my group members the best and the strength and
> wisdom to get through the tribulations without grave misfortune. i'd like to leave you with the only IRISH BLESSING, I know. " I WISH YOU food and clothing and a soft pillow for your head, and hope you'll be in heaven forty
> years before the devil knows you're dead!" your would-be friend, Dee Lewis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dyanne Douglas-Mayer
> To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
> Hey Dwija !
>
> I absolutely was not disappointed at all..!! I was merely confused at the apparant antagonism between writers in a forum like this. There is so little discussion regarding this most important event that I believe we need to be most cautious as to how we manage these discussions as we are not fully en-lightened yet.. this is sacred ground to me and I hope that it continues to remain so... this forum is so very necessary!!!!
>
> You are from India.. aaah, Mother India.. how I miss her! Yes, I visited on her sacred ground twice... once for 6 months and then 1 month.. which was never enough time ! I found my soul there.... amidst the chaos, dirt and vibrant insanity amoungst which everything works and operates "correctly". I was fortunate to be introduced to Baghwan Shree Rajneesh or "Osho" during my first visit to your wonderful country and it was his bold approach to life that finally lifted the veil from my eyes and helped me to see life as it is.. to me ! I envy you being able to walk on the sacred ground of The Mother each day and long to return.. hopefully one day !
----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Lewis To: dwijidas Ghosal 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
how incredible you wrote about terrorism? that is just what i was about to write to my congresspeople about
i don't know what to do, but there must be some who won't let Iran browbeat us into backing off and turning tail
and letting iran have it's way in all things, terrorizing people, holding AMERICANS HOSTAGE[?] THEY NEED SOMEONE TO PUT A FOOT ON THEIR NECK AND CALLING A HALT TO THIS BUSINESS. which we should be able to do if anyone can? there are 3 or 4 congresspeople who have asked me for support whose Attention I can call to the problem. this is fantastic. did you publish an article or book about it? something i could read? My computer is mistreating me today, so i don't know if this will reach you? Dee Lewis
----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Lewis To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
DEAR DWIJA, I WISH I HAD TIME FOR A FRIENDLY EXCHANGE THIS MORNING, BUT I HAVE A LOT TO DO TODAY, MOSTLY WRITING TO 3 CONGRESSMEN TO TRY TO STOP THE MADNESS GOING ON IN THE WORLD TODAY, I'LL LET YOU KNOW LATER HOW WELL i fared, Dee Lewis,
----- Original Message ----- From: DWIJADAS GHOSAL To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
Hello Alan,
Yes. Have u gone through the article ? Your comments please.
--- On Wed, 3/6/09, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 3 June, 2009, 10:46 PM
Dijo,
Are you the same Dwijadas Ghosal who wrote the article Road Map for Control of Terrorism?
Al
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 5:21 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL <dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's highly OK . Thanks for ur consideration. In fact very few people even in my community get my name correctly. Hence I am quite used to it. Moreover rule of transliteration has not been followed in firming up spelling. Many of friends write my names as Dijo articulated as D.Joe. Meaning of Dwija is twice born. Like Teeth, creatures from eggs, and so called Brahmin. Brahmin are twice born because during upanayan, they are believed to be born with knowledge of Brahma in front of Guru.
--- On Tue, 2/6/09, barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: barbieri.a...@gmail.com <barbieri.a...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have?
To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 5:51 PM
Just noticed I spelled your name wrong...I apologize.
On Jun 2, 2009 7:12am, Alan Barbieri <barbieri.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diwja,
> Unfortunately people will believe whatever they choose to believe. It is like there is something in the air they breathe or the food they eat that leads away from reality. How long has this planet been here….millions….billions of years…who knows? Why should we care? People are killing each other over the color of their skin.. If there is something more stupid than that it’s worrying about Nibiru.
> Hey…how was Sikkim? Most of us see so little of this beautiful planet in our lifetime.. If we lived forever I don’t think we would ever become bored. I used Google Earth to look at Sikkim. The quality of life is so much better there.
> Kind regards always,
> Alan
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, DWIJADAS GHOSAL dghos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mike Brown, who discovered Eris, now says that Nibiru is the most common pseudoscientific topic he is asked about. David Morrison claims he receives 20-25 emails a week about the impending arrival of Nibiru; some frightened, others angry and claiming that he is part of the conspiracy to keep the truth of the impending apocalypse from the public. "Planetary scientists are being driven to distraction by Nibiru," notes science writer Govert Schilling, "And it is not surprising; you devote so much time, energy and creativity to fascinating scientific research, and find yourself on the tracks of the most amazing and interesting things, and all the public at large is concerned about is some crackpot theory about clay tablets, god-astronauts and a planet that doesn't exist." Morrison states that he hopes that the non-arrival of Nibiru could serve as a teaching moment for the public, instructing them on rational thought and baloney detection, but doubts that will happen.
> --- On Sat, 23/5/09, Dyanne Douglas-Mayer myth...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> Subject: Re: What impact will 21 December 2012 have? > To: 2012predictions@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 4:40 PM
> Dear Dorothy,
> Yes, I could go on about India forever, even after only spending 7 short months there in total.... It is sad that you will not get to visit there in this lifetime but I can highly recommend a series named "The Story of India" Presented by Michael Woods, available on DVD (even in SA).. his obvious love of India and the depth of research he has conducted offer an amazing journey through this amazing continent and it's history... well worth it !
> Your comments about our short lifespan and I can totally agree with, in "Slave Species" there are actually documented accounts transcribed from the Sumerian Tablets in which the "gods" decided to manipulate the human genome in order to shorten our lifespan....
> I am sorry that you have lost your Husband, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to carry on and find a sense of purpose.... But I must say that you strike me as a extraordinary person and am sure that you have lived on for a reason !
> I am not so sure about this Beast thing, it just does not ring true for me as I believe that there is a choice for us all to make.. in fact, I believe that we have already made it in our hearts. I don't want to buy into this doom and gloom thing and intend to just continue looking towards the light !
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