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funboy  
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From: funboy <paulmflana...@eircom.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:13:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jun 17 2009 7:13 am
Subject: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

The Specials gig to be televised

BBC4 are to screen The Specials set at Glastonbury, on Friday 26th
June.

The programme is introduced by Mark Radcliffe and is on from 9pm to
10pm on BBC4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/glastonbury/2009/artists/specials/

Funboy1


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Paul Rodgers  
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From: "Paul Rodgers" <pled...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:54:07 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
Further to this BBC4's coverage is said to be based around 'heritage acts'.
As such sets by The Specials and Madness lead their programming.

Paul Rodgers


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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:09:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
Note to band:  the live rendition of Ghost Town is horrendous.

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George Curran  
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From: George Curran <seoirse...@yahoo.ie>
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:05:43 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

Agreed Jason - though I thought that Concrete Jungle was even worse.
Otherwise I thought they sounded great.

George.

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, jason <ja...@2-tone.info> wrote:

From: jason <ja...@2-tone.info>
Subject: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
To: "2-tone forum" <2-tone-forum@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 4:09 PM

Note to band:  the live rendition of Ghost Town is horrendous.

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jason  
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Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

On Jun 28, 6:05 pm, George Curran <seoirse...@yahoo.ie> wrote:

> Agreed Jason - though I thought that Concrete Jungle was even worse.
> Otherwise I thought they sounded great.

> George.
> ------------------------

I gave up half way through Monkey Man and tuned in again to get the
full horror of a lifeless clinical version of Too Much Too Young and
then the full horror that was Ghost Town.

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From: Jon Russell <jr.jonruss...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:49:14 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

It's a damn site better than this version though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgkEM88Jyk

2009/6/28 jason <ja...@2-tone.info>


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Wally  
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From: Wally <wa...@2-tone.info>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:07:35 +0200
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

I tuned into Spanish Radio 3 last night and they were playing that, The
Spatial AKA Nuclear War/Ghost Planet... I like it...

Wally.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jon Russell
<jr.jonruss...@googlemail.com>wrote:


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From: Jon Russell <jr.jonruss...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:32:07 +0100
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Subject: RE: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

Each to their own. It sounds like a bad Mariachi band on mogadon to me.

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Subject: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4
(26/6/2009)

I tuned into Spanish Radio 3 last night and they were playing that, The
Spatial AKA Nuclear War/Ghost Planet... I like it...

Wally.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jon Russell <jr.jonruss...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

It's a damn site better than this version though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgkEM88Jyk


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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

On Jun 29, 3:32 pm, Jon Russell <jr.jonruss...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Each to their own. It sounds like a bad Mariachi band on mogadon to me.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

LOL......very good.  I wouldn't be keen Spatial AKA Orchestra either,
but it's a personal thing: experimental jazz just isn't for me. But at
least Dammers is doing something original with the track rather than
attempting to reproduce the original and failing miserably, which is
exactly what happened at Glastonbury


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Paul Rodgers  
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From: "Paul Rodgers" <pled...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:15:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

I'm really looking forward to Jerry's Spatial AKA Orchestra lowering expectations before Madness go on stage at Madstock.

FWIW I quite enjoyed Friday night's Glastonbury set, but it wasn't a patch on being in the same room as them at Brixton.

Paul Rodgers


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From: Brian Greene <br...@doop.ie>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:36 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

this is what I disc'ed.
Gangsters (in part)
Rat Race
Monkey Man
Friday Night Saturday Morning
man at C&A
message to you rudy
do nothing
too much too young
you're wondering now
ghost town

but I think I missed 2 others.

when bass & guitar were messing about on stage you could hear them playing
it wrong, which must mean that they are not match fit or good enough to lark
about and not have if effect the sound. In general it wasn't bad, they
didn't woo the crowd that much, perhaps Message to you rudy was the
recognition high point, due to its use in adverts? The vocals sound
strained, not the usual perfect pissed off disinterested Hall.

thats my 2cent.

regards Brian


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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
There were audio recordings of the show available on Saturday
morning.  And I see the same has happened the Madness set:

http://2tone-lifeinmonochrome.blogspot.com/

Obviously such recordings very naughty and punishable by extra home
work.


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Wally  
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From: Wally <wa...@2-tone.info>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:37:28 +0200
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

There's an equally naughty torrent of the video of The Specials set doin'
the rounds...
(so the tell me...)

I thought "It's Up To You" was the best song from the set, and did Roddy
start playing the wrong chords at one point during Concrete Jungle......?

W.


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Paul Rodgers  
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From: "Paul Rodgers" <pled...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:49:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

I've got the whole thing on mp3 and V+, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in it, so I'll keep it to my self.  ;)

Paul Rodgers


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From: George Curran <seoirse...@yahoo.ie>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:08:20 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

Hi all,

If anyone missed the show and is a member on www.dimeadozen.org, then you can download a DVD of The Specials set at:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=255323

Cheers,

George.

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From: jason <ja...@2-tone.info>
Subject: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
To: "2-tone forum" <2-tone-forum@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, 28 June, 2009, 7:34 PM

On Jun 28, 6:05 pm, George Curran <seoirse...@yahoo.ie> wrote:

> Agreed Jason - though I thought that Concrete Jungle was even worse.
> Otherwise I thought they sounded great.

> George.
> ------------------------

I gave up half way through Monkey Man and tuned in again to get the
full horror of a lifeless clinical version of Too Much Too Young and
then the full horror that was Ghost Town.

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

I recorded mine using my DVD recorder and I came across an Audio
version that Includes Little Bitch and a couple of words from terry
that were not broadcast on BBC4. I enjoyed the set but I was pissed
they left out Stereotype because that's my favorite live track. the
other is Guns of Navarone which they haven't played so far. I'm
surprised so many people missed the Gig I thought everybody had Sky or
Freeview at this stage.

Funboy1

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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)

On Jun 30, 1:46 am, funboy <paulmflana...@eircom.net> wrote:

> I recorded mine using my DVD recorder and I came across an Audio
> version that Includes Little Bitch and a couple of words from terry
> that were not broadcast on BBC4. I enjoyed the set but I was pissed
> they left out Stereotype because that's my favorite live track. the
> other is Guns of Navarone which they haven't played so far. I'm
> surprised so many people missed the Gig I thought everybody had Sky or
> Freeview at this stage.

> Funboy1

---------------------------------------

The BBC are getting value for the reported £1.5 million they paid for
Glastonbury because the gig was broadcast again on BBC Interactive
last night (Tues 30th).  Still couldn't bring myself to watch it so
Holby City won the day.


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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:49:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
I doubt you missed much. I use the Virgin version of BBC iPlayer to watch
the Madness set and the picture quality was appalling it wasn't so much
compressed as squashed flat!

So far of friends who were at Glastonbury and saw The Specials two reviews
were very positive, the other guy said it was terrible and he wished he
hadn't gone. He thought it one of the worst sets he's ever seen. He's not a
massive Specials fan, but is big on Madness, so it certainly wasn't a
dislike of the musical style that put him off.

Paul Rodgers


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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
On Jul 1, 10:49 am, "Paul Rodgers" <pled...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I doubt you missed much. I use the Virgin version of BBC iPlayer to watch
> the Madness set and the picture quality was appalling it wasn't so much
> compressed as squashed flat!
> So far of friends who were at Glastonbury and saw The Specials two reviews
> were very positive, the other guy said it was terrible and he wished he
> hadn't gone. He thought it one of the worst sets he's ever seen. He's not a
> massive Specials fan, but is big on Madness, so it certainly wasn't a
> dislike of the musical style that put him off.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

BBC Interactive is an an entirely different beast to IPlayer. It's
viewed through your TV for a start.
'The Specials' may have the better songs but from what I saw of
Madness, the London boys were miles of them in terms of a live
performance.


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From: "Paul Rodgers" <pled...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:35:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: [2-tone-forum] Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
I know what you mean about interactive now. I must check it more often. At
the moment there seems to be an awful lot of tennis on it at present.

I access the iPlayer via Virgin Media on my V+ box. The picture quality on
the Madness BBC 4 show was much worse on the catch up than on the original
feed watched through the same box and telly on Sunday- my problem was it
failed to record.

For me the biggest single difference between Madness and The Specials live
(apart from the original members issue, which Madness frequently have had to
address) is that Madness know how to please a crowd. The Specials seem only
capable of pleasing their crowd. As others have suggested, this was best
evinced when they played the one off the Walkers Crisps, TV Licensing,
DirectGov and Pizza Hut
adverts(http://www.songofthesalesman.co.uk/ad.aspx?psong=Message%20To%20You%2...)
and everyone went mad!

Maybe they will pull it off, maybe they won't. I think the crowd were
perplexed by being addressed by Neville, when it is perhaps Terry most of
them would expect to introduce the songs.

We'll agree to differ over which band has the better songs! Yes the best of
The Specials is probably better than the best of Madness, but Madness have
so much more to choose from. Quite where The Specials go from here (apart
from playing more of More Specials, obviously) I don't know. Madness could
play an entirely different set list for years. Even their so called cabaret
hits tours don't include all of the hit singles, let alone the couple that
missed!

I am very glad to be discussing this music almost 30 years on from when I
first discovered it, at an age where realistically my taste should have
changed roughly every 6 months or so. Something must have been very right
about it...

Paul Rodgers


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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: The Specials set at Glastonbury / BBC4 (26/6/2009)
We'll agree to differ over which band has the better songs! Yes the
best of
The Specials is probably better than the best of Madness, but Madness
have
so much more to choose from. Quite where The Specials go from here
(apart
from playing more of More Specials, obviously) I don't know

------------------------------------------------

I thing the only thing this tour has done for the name of The Specials
is associate it with a word which it has never the case in 79 - 81.
And that  word is predictable.


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