You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
tl;dr:
If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad range
of personal losses
2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public request
In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the national
registrar, they should.
On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
> crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
> tl;dr:
> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad range
> of personal losses
> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public request
> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
> national registrar, they should.
None of which is actually corruption. That a private company entirely
legally runs a service that you believe should be publicly run is not
corruption. That a private company is not running as you feel a public
service should be run is not corruption. There are plenty of public bodies
worldwide who are not exactly a model of transparency that are not corrupt.
Michele Neylon is widely known to be on a crusade (justified or not, I
really haven't dug enough to tell) against IEDR and so should be taken with
a grain of salt. As with any form of research, consult more than one source.
An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is that
the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the forms to
ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie. This
person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her story.
On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
> crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
> tl;dr:
> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad range
> of personal losses
> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public request
> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
> national registrar, they should.
> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alanna Kelly <amethyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is that
> the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the forms to
> ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie. This
> person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her story.
> On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
>> crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
>> tl;dr:
>> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
>> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad
>> range of personal losses
>> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public request
>> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
>> national registrar, they should.
>> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mark Grealish <m...@bhalash.com> wrote:
> Backing evidence: I did that with my daughter's name while perfectly
> sober.
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alanna Kelly <amethyst...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is that
>> the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the forms to
>> ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie. This
>> person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her story.
>> On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
>>> crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
>>> tl;dr:
>>> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
>>> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad
>>> range of personal losses
>>> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public request
>>> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
>>> national registrar, they should.
>>> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
> EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO
> standards.
> Domhnall.
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mark Grealish <m...@bhalash.com> wrote:
>> Backing evidence: I did that with my daughter's name while perfectly
>> sober.
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alanna Kelly <amethyst...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is that
>>> the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the forms to
>>> ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie. This
>>> person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her story.
>>> On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms were
>>>> crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
>>>> tl;dr:
>>>> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
>>>> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad
>>>> range of personal losses
>>>> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public
>>>> request
>>>> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
>>>> national registrar, they should.
>>>> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>>>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>>>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>>>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com>wrote:
Anecdotes like that happen, and memory is a very strange thing, entirely
too easy to become utterly convinced of something that never actually
happened...
On Oct 12, 2012 6:54 PM, "Alanna Kelly" <amethyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO
>> standards.
>> Domhnall.
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mark Grealish <m...@bhalash.com> wrote:
>>> Backing evidence: I did that with my daughter's name while perfectly
>>> sober.
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alanna Kelly <amethyst...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is
>>>> that the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the
>>>> forms to ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie.
>>>> This person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her
>>>> story.
>>>> On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms
>>>>> were crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
>>>>> tl;dr:
>>>>> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
>>>>> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad
>>>>> range of personal losses
>>>>> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public
>>>>> request
>>>>> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
>>>>> national registrar, they should.
>>>>> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>>>>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>>>>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com>wrote:
On 12 Oct 2012, at 18:48, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
> EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO standards.
Trivia .. EI in aviation is just a lucky coincidence. The 'E' is Europe(north), so while it looks intentional, EG, ED, EN, ES, etc (GB, DE, NO, SE respectively) don't.
Indeed. 1974 kinda makes sense as ARPAnet first spread outside the US year
before, necessitating them having to think about international addressing
schemes... though DNS is a 1980's invention, so maybe not :)
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Duncan Thomas <duncan.tho...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Anecdotes like that happen, and memory is a very strange thing, entirely
> too easy to become utterly convinced of something that never actually
> happened...
> On Oct 12, 2012 6:54 PM, "Alanna Kelly" <amethyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> More reason to assume the crazy former flatmate is genuinely crazy...
>> On 12 Oct 2012 18:48, "Domhnall Walsh" <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>> EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO
>>> standards.
>>> Domhnall.
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Mark Grealish <m...@bhalash.com> wrote:
>>>> Backing evidence: I did that with my daughter's name while perfectly
>>>> sober.
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Alanna Kelly <amethyst...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> An acquaintance one told me the reason .ie is .ie instead of .ei is
>>>>> that the people at Ireland On Line who were responsible for sending the
>>>>> forms to ICANN filled the form out while drunk and that is why we have .ie.
>>>>> This person was involved in the process so I have no reason to doubt her
>>>>> story.
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2012 15:33, "gerryk" <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You can download the full FOI data dump and read about whose palms
>>>>>> were crossed with silver to initially create the IEDR.
>>>>>> tl;dr:
>>>>>> If you read the memo of association, two items really stand out...
>>>>>> 1. they directors are indemnified from company funds against a broad
>>>>>> range of personal losses
>>>>>> 2. the directors need not divulge any 'company secrets' on public
>>>>>> request
>>>>>> In short, they are not behaving as a public service, which, as the
>>>>>> national registrar, they should.
>>>>>> On 12 October 2012 15:06, Aaron Hastings <aa...@091labs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Corrupt? Background, please?
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM, gerryk <ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> First they are exposed as corrupt, now as inept and insecure.
>>>>>>>> Nice one IEDR.
>>>>>>>> On 12 October 2012 13:36, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com>wrote:
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Shaun ONeil <sh...@oneil.me.uk> wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2012, at 18:48, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
> > EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO
> standards.
> Trivia .. EI in aviation is just a lucky coincidence. The 'E' is
> Europe(north), so while it looks intentional, EG, ED, EN, ES, etc (GB, DE,
> NO, SE respectively) don't.
> On 12 Oct 2012, at 18:48, Domhnall Walsh <domhn...@091labs.com> wrote:
> > EI is used in aviation because aircraft registrations pre-date any ISO
> standards.
> Trivia .. EI in aviation is just a lucky coincidence. The 'E' is
> Europe(north), so while it looks intentional, EG, ED, EN, ES, etc (GB, DE,
> NO, SE respectively) don't.
