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Davey Zimmerman #274

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Jul 9, 2023, 10:32:54 AM7/9/23
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John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!

That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.

"John Henry
2h ·
(This didn't start out needing a trigger warning, but it definitely
ended up that way. Sensitive souls may wish to avoid.) I know you're
out there. I know you're reading, wondering. Wondering if there's any
hope or even a little flash of light to be found, anywhere. I know how
that feels. I feel it every day. Have since I was a little kid. I
mourn that kid. The things that were stolen from him before he was even
old enough to know he had them are beyond tragedy. Here's a little guy
so full of energy and love and happiness for the world, all he wants to
do is dance, dance, dance - he knows he can dance, really, to the floor
- and laugh and sing and smell flowers and watch the birds and the
thunder rolling in from the west that makes his skin tingle and his
heart race. He just wants to love you, and to be loved by you. He just
wants to be safe and happy and go find dinosaur bones or make a canoe of
his very own like his first literary hero Red Fox. He wants to be
friends, like Frog and Toad. But for some reason it's not okay to want
those things. For reasons he can't understand, the rules say you're
supposed to pretend you don't care about what anyone else thinks, and
then everyone will care what you think. But he doesn't know how to play
that game; he thinks it's dishonest, and cruel, and fake, even though he
doesn't know quite how to use that word that way yet because he's only
two or three. He sits in the play yard outside, sometimes he's so lonely
he jumps the fence and runs out to the road to wave at the cars passing
by. Until that one day he waved at a bus and it stopped. That wasn't
supposed to happen and he felt terrible about it. But nobody ever asked
about it either. Nobody called anyone to ask why a three year old was
standing on the side of a road on the outskirts of town waving at every
passing stranger. Then the talking starts, when the pre-school teacher
is strangely excited because he can read. Of course he can read, how
else would he be able to learn about this wonderful world with all the
pretty things in it? How else could he go visit his friends, Red Fox
and Frog and Toad? Then it happened. Other parents found out, and they
were mad. They were mad their kids weren't being praised, their kids
weren't being aptitude tested and they weren't being urged to let their
kids jump ahead four or five grades. And mom and dad are starting to
look at him funny, too. Like they're not sure if he's a boy or a
monster. His sister hates him now because she's used to being the
center of attention but now she's not the "youngest girl" anymore, she's
just the "middle sister" and that doesn't draw nearly as much attention
from the adults. His brother hates him because all anyone talks about
is how gifted and smart and blah blah. The kids at school tease him,
they pretend to like him just to see what a doofus he is, so wrapped up
in being his own little self that it doesn't even cross his mind to
realize his friends are laughing at him, not with him. So wrapped up in
trying to gain approval from anyone for anything that he doesn't notice
the older kids making him prove how fast he can read aren't doing it
because they're impressed, they're doing it because they're scared and
feel inadequate. After all, here they are big kids in fourth, fifth,
sixth grade, and this dumb little spaz first grader can read better than
they can. But he doesn't know that. He just knows that people seem to
like him when he does what they want. He knew that from the minute he
started being aware of himself as a person, because someone wanted to do
things to him and they liked it a lot when he let them. Liked it so
much it seemed a lot like they were the only person who liked him at
all, what with dad being at work all day and drunk most of the time when
he wasn't, and mom not caring about anything but watching daytime
television and gossiping with her girlfriends about other people and
tupperware and mary kay and avon. Then that other person got in trouble
one day and went away, and they didn't like him anymore, and nobody
would tell him why. And that was when his heart broke, age four and a
half, and it never really worked properly again. By the time he was
seven he was running away from home to "sleep" on the porch of a little
girl he had a crush on, certain that such a nice little girl must have
parents who would care and love and have normal dinners without all the
screaming and fighting. By the time he was nine he'd started drinking.
By the time he was thirteen he'd lost his virginity to a woman twice his
age. When he was twelve, he watched THE STATE decide that his messed up
half-sister deserved to have her daughter, no matter how bad she was,
until one day the sister's boyfriend beat the kid to death so the two
adults could do heroin in peace. As horrible as that sounds, the
details make it much, much worse; I'll spare you...but that was
definitely when he decided he wasn't having any kids. And he grew, and
by the time he was approaching fifteen he'd picked up some swagger.
Started smoking weed. People found out he could play drums - even
though his kit was a cheapie little department store plywood thing, he
made it sound good - and then the real party started. He didn't realize
until years later that those kids were still laughing at him, and they
still are laughing now, fifty years down the road. Seventeen when he
started doing coke. Eighteen when he became a father. 19 when he
became a *single* father. Then a dozen years of descent into addiction,
abuse, terrible relationships he never should've wanted to be in but
couldn't help it because in spite of everything there was still that
sliver of hope, that little tiny suggestion that maybe this time,
someone really CARED. But they never did.
Y'all think you know, but you don't. You think it's just oh, JH is
feeling sorry for himself again, but it's not. You think it's all just
a trick or a play for sympathy or an act, a persona constructed for
public consumption, but it isn't. It's really just a lost little kid who
can almost remember the times when he made people happy, and he was
still naive enough to really believe it was simply because they liked
him for who he was. That kid sat on the back of a maroon 1968 dodge at
four and a half years old on a sunny spring day, singing a song he'd
heard a lot on the radio that summer about how we had joy and we had fun
and we had seasons in the sun and goodby papa please pray for me, I am
the black sheep of the family, the day he was told he wasn't allowed to
play with his "special friend" anymore, the girl who was ten years older
than him and seemed to just adore him...but suddenly she wouldn't look
at him, wouldn't talk to him, wouldn't even acknowledge he was in the
room, and nobody would explain why. Nobody took him aside and said
listen, we know you think this was fun, but what she did to you was
wrong and we had to make her stop. Nobody took him aside and said I'm
sorry, I really do love you, but we're not allowed to do this and I was
wrong to even start. Just...no more. Not allowed.
And that day, the day he realized that his one real friend was gone
forever, that was the day a four and a half year old little boy first
had the thought that maybe life wasn't worth living. That was the day
he learned how to sing goodbye to his dad, the only hero he ever knew
clay feet and all. That was the first day he thought that maybe if he
just went away, everyone could be happy again. Because somehow - he
didn't know how, but he knew for sure - this was all his fault. You
think you know. You don't. Not even a little bit.
Because there hasn't been a day since that day in the spring of 1975
when he first had the thought, that he hasn't had it again. That maybe
everyone would be better off if he'd never been here in the first place.
That maybe if he just went away, everybody could be happy again, since
obviously it was him that was making them angry and sad. It must be
him; he's the one who got punished. He's the one who got told he wasn't
allowed to have his special friend anymore, and he's the one who never
got told why. Just about 48 years it's been, now. 48 years of every
day, *at least* once or twice, contemplating - not just a fleeting
thought, but deep contemplation and consideration - whether the world
wouldn't be better off if he wasn't in it. You think you know, but you
don't. You think you get it, but you don't. You think a lot of
things...but you don't. You don't.
The people who did this to me have names. They know who they are.
They'll never admit it to anyone; my abuser's been gaslighting me about
it almost since the moment she got caught. Don't you ever dare tell me
I'm going through life "blaming everything on someone else." I never
even acknowledged I *was* abused until the last few years. I used to
brag about it. You think you know.
You don't know anything. Not about me, not about this world, and not
about yourself. You don't have the strength to even imagine the things
I've lived through. And still here I am, just wanting to help people so
they'll like me. Just wanting to feel, one time, that warmth of naivete
and placid ignorance that lets me believe anyone, anywhere, ever could
possibly have found anything to like about me, other than what I could
do for them. You don't know.
And I hope to all the gods I don't believe in that you never really do,
because nobody ever deserved to be this. I hope those of you who have
taken such delight in tearing me down from behind your paper-thin
sockpuppets, those of you who have just taken as gospel whatever filthy
rumor you got messaged from a throwaway account and slowly slunk away in
the night while you thought I wasn't noticing, are proud of yourselves.
That kid? That's whose life you've helped make even worse. That's the
guy who keeps on going in spite of you and in spite of himself. That's
the guy who's been looking at those train tracks across the street for
the last four months and thinking that if he timed it just right, the
train would never even know, and maybe then the world could be happy now
that he's not in it. You think you know.
You know nothing.
Good job."

If you made it this far, don't forget to Paypal Old Friends Senior Dog
Sanctuary at https://ofsds.org/donate/ instead of this fucking loon.

Family Guy

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Jul 9, 2023, 11:03:36 AM7/9/23
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On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 10:32:54 AM UTC-4, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
> John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
> best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
>
> That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.


Oh! Oh! Is it 2,000 words? Please tell me that it's 2,000 words! Yummy! Yay!

>
> "John Henry
> 2h ·
> (This didn't start out needing a trigger warning, but it definitely
> ended up that way.

The only trigger warning John needs is one that is connected to a gun, but I seriously believe if he tried to off himself that way, that he would somehow fail and end up a vegetable or disfigured.




> Sensitive souls may wish to avoid.) I know you're
> out there.

He's been watching The Matrix again, hasn't he?



> I know you're reading, wondering. Wondering if there's any
> hope or even a little flash of light to be found, anywhere. I know how
> that feels. I feel it every day. Have since I was a little kid.

So he's been mentally ill since childhood. Got it.
Sounds like a certain fat friend from Utah.


> I
> mourn that kid. The things that were stolen from him before he was even
> old enough to know he had them are beyond tragedy. Here's a little guy
> so full of energy and love and happiness for the world, all he wants to
> do is dance, dance, dance - he knows he can dance, really, to the floor
> - and laugh and sing and smell flowers and watch the birds and the
> thunder rolling in from the west that makes his skin tingle and his
> heart race. He just wants to love you, and to be loved by you.

Was...was John molested? Is this a story about him being molested? What the hell, man.


> He just
> wants to be safe and happy and go find dinosaur bones or make a canoe of
> his very own like his first literary hero Red Fox. He wants to be
> friends, like Frog and Toad. But for some reason it's not okay to want
> those things. For reasons he can't understand, the rules say you're
> supposed to pretend you don't care about what anyone else thinks, and
> then everyone will care what you think.

For reasons he can't understand, his house has a lot of visitors with badges and paperwork.


> But he doesn't know how to play
> that game; he thinks it's dishonest, and cruel, and fake, even though he
> doesn't know quite how to use that word that way yet because he's only
> two or three. He sits in the play yard outside, sometimes he's so lonely
> he jumps the fence and runs out to the road to wave at the cars passing
> by. Until that one day he waved at a bus and it stopped. That wasn't
> supposed to happen and he felt terrible about it. But nobody ever asked
> about it either. Nobody called anyone to ask why a three year old was
> standing on the side of a road on the outskirts of town waving at every
> passing stranger.


I bet his parents wish that they had dropped him off further from the city limits.


= snip =

I just can't keep reading all that. It's far too much of a headache.
I'm sure it has the usual paranoia, blaming of others, tears, frustrations, anger and self-pity that his usual BS contains.

Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses)

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Jul 9, 2023, 9:08:32 PM7/9/23
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"Davey Zimmerman #274" <Chadwe...@zoho.com> wrote in
news:XnsB03C6B4AC8F...@135.181.20.170:

> John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
> best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
>
> That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.

> guy who keeps on going in spite of you and in spite of himself. That's
> the guy who's been looking at those train tracks across the street for
> the last four months and thinking that if he timed it just right, the
> train would never even know, and maybe then the world could be happy now
> that he's not in it. You think you know.
> You know nothing.
> Good job."

"The train would never even know"? Beyond the fact that trains aren't sapient, is
he unaware of the great lengths train operators go to in order to detect
obstacles on the rails? Even before the camera arrays/machine vision era,
conductors have had that duty.

What a selfish prick, btw, to ruin someone's day and stain their memory for life
just out of laziness and convenience.

Family Guy

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Jul 10, 2023, 11:17:07 AM7/10/23
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On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 9:08:32 PM UTC-4, Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses) wrote:
> "Davey Zimmerman #274" <Chadwe...@zoho.com> wrote in
> news:XnsB03C6B4AC8F...@135.181.20.170:
> > John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
> > best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
> >
> > That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.
> > guy who keeps on going in spite of you and in spite of himself. That's
> > the guy who's been looking at those train tracks across the street for
> > the last four months and thinking that if he timed it just right, the
> > train would never even know, and maybe then the world could be happy now
> > that he's not in it. You think you know.
> > You know nothing.
> > Good job."
> "The train would never even know"? Beyond the fact that trains aren't sapient, is
> he unaware of the great lengths train operators go to in order to detect
> obstacles on the rails? Even before the camera arrays/machine vision era,
> conductors have had that duty.
>
> What a selfish prick, btw, to ruin someone's day and stain their memory for life
> just out of laziness and convenience.

Yea, but at least he would finally shut the hell up.
It was a lovely suicide threat, though.
Give him 12 hours to make at least two more.

Creon

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Jul 12, 2023, 4:51:33 AM7/12/23
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 14:32:50 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:

> John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
> best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
>
> That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.

This is for John:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipJIV6hc1Ls

It's a 38 minute video. Watch the first 5 minutes to see if it
interests you.

Take it in chunks: the psychologist lady is informative, but it's
hard work.

> train tracks

C'mon, that's a sign of desperation. You are shame-bound. So
are a lot of people. Before you do yourself in in manners
selfish, please consider watching the video.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _

BTW, Davey -- I very much appreciate your candor and wit when dealing
with the gentleman's pity party. I'm hoping that he watches the first
5 minutes of that video, because he'll realize, it fits him to a T.

(I'm starting to unpack a bit of this in myself.)

(Might the world need some foundation that acts as a clearinghouse,
helping guide those in need to net.resources: for digging
themselves out of their respective holes?) 🤔️

--
-c

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote in
news:lQtrM.102149$eGef....@fx47.iad:

> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 14:32:50 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
>
>> John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
>> best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
>>
>> That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.
>
> This is for John:
>
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipJIV6hc1Ls
>
> It's a 38 minute video. Watch the first 5 minutes to see if it
> interests you.
>
> Take it in chunks: the psychologist lady is informative, but it's
> hard work.

John has no shame. If even 10% of the abuses he's done to women are
true, he has none.

>> train tracks
>
> C'mon, that's a sign of desperation. You are shame-bound. So
> are a lot of people. Before you do yourself in in manners
> selfish, please consider watching the video.
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _

John threatens or hints at suicide fairly often. However someone
informed me that John has either closed, made private or deleted his
FarceTw*t pages of mooch and his other begging avenues (AKA the
webshites of scrounging) are 404.

That implies another hissy fit rather than offing himself but the latter
is always possible. For the record, I consider suicide a selfish gesture
but in his case I'll make an exception. People tend to graviate away
from him eventually and it's simply his way of trying to get attention.

> BTW, Davey -- I very much appreciate your candor and wit when dealing
> with the gentleman's pity party. I'm hoping that he watches the first
> 5 minutes of that video, because he'll realize, it fits him to a T.

John is one of the least self-aware persons you'll run into. That was
stressed to me by at least one other person and I came to the conclusion
that it was an astute observation.

> (I'm starting to unpack a bit of this in myself.)

I see some of what Heidi Priebe is saying in myself in that I'm my own
worst critic. But there's also a sense of accomplishment in overcoming
it instead of wallowing it it or using it to mooch from others.

> (Might the world need some foundation that acts as a clearinghouse,
> helping guide those in need to net.resources: for digging
> themselves out of their respective holes?) 🤔️

Don't worry, he'll be back. The grasshoppers always seem to respawn to
have something for the ants to laugh at. John is constantly deleting his
idiocy and rants, so it's not the first time he's tried to reinvent
himself. A pity he only has the same old and very tired dance steps.

I prefer to save my compassion and charity for those that need and
appreciate it rather than take it for granted.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Jul 12, 2023, 10:38:01 PM7/12/23
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"Checkmate <moderat...@baseball.bat>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>
wrote in news:MPG.3f18dc08...@usnews.blocknews.net:

> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
> by Checkmate.
>
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:51:29 GMT, Creon had the audacity to say the
> following:
>> themselves out of their respective holes?) ??
>
> Who in hell is "John"? He's not one of alt.checkmate's k00ks... we
> have enough as it is.

Not this kooky!

That would be John Henry DeJong who hasn't come here (RSPW) in over 4.5
years after a day long post Xmas meltdown at the end of 2018. Previous
to that he claims he ran away from RSPW about 15 years before after
losing every fight he ever started. He's been a well despised and much
mocked mooch through several decades.

He won't show anyplace where he can't control and censor the content.
His last Usenet visit as himself got him laughed off the group.

There's several parody pages:

https://www.facebook.com/John.Henry.USA.net and
https://www.facebook.com/sendmoneytobeefy
are public.

This is basically John in a nutshell.
https://imgur.com/a/R1ZJnV8

And here's John destroying his monitor when it got trashed after he was
evicted. I believe this video is from 12/2018 or 01/2019
https://vimeo.com/311316692

He's out of breath at the end likely due to smoking used cigarettes he
confessed to fishing out of public ashtrays. So sad.

Enjoy.

He just yanked all the content from Facebook, a website and other media
in a hissy fit. This was after a few vague hints at suicide and
confessing that his mooching efforts netted him a grand total of 10
dollars for the month of June.

This confession sums John up nicely: "When I was raising all kinds of
hell on this newsgroup in the '90s, I was blowing my brains out on
cocaine, meth, ecstasy, LSD, psilocybin, weed, and drinking heavily on a
nearly full-time basis, basically trying to kill myself via narcotic
abuse because I didn't have the balls to just shoot myself in the head.
There is no point prior to late 1999 in which my posts weren't fortified
with at least three different drugs, and often twice that many."

You only wish you had a kook this good in alt.checkmate.

Creon

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Jul 13, 2023, 1:52:30 AM7/13/23
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I hope the healing message I sent him didn't scare him off.

He could be someone someday. Who knows?

> This confession sums John up nicely: "When I was raising all kinds of
> hell on this newsgroup in the '90s, I was blowing my brains out on
> cocaine, meth, ecstasy, LSD, psilocybin, weed, and drinking heavily on a
> nearly full-time basis, basically trying to kill myself via narcotic
> abuse because I didn't have the balls to just shoot myself in the head.
> There is no point prior to late 1999 in which my posts weren't fortified
> with at least three different drugs, and often twice that many."
>
> You only wish you had a kook this good in alt.checkmate.

You don't have John himself posting to the froup. (Meanwhile,
Perfessor Mojibake can't keep from scribbling in a.c.)

Suspecting you don't have John himself posting in RSPW because
his is a suspected anxious-avoidant attachment
strategy. (I wouldn't expect him to post, it's too
hostile for him.)

--
-c

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Jul 13, 2023, 10:02:24 AM7/13/23
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"Checkmate <moderat...@baseball.bat>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>
wrote in news:MPG.3f1916f6...@usnews.blocknews.net:

> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
> by Checkmate.
>
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:37:57 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 had the
> He's quite the drama queen and certainly one of the better kooks, but
> all kooks are "special". It's unusual to have one post a goodbye
> rant, and then actually leave. We get the ones who probably want to
> leave, but they just can't.

This kook is no different, he'll be back in some pseudonym and likely
will be whining about the evil people holding him back until he's been
finally evicted to the streets by the current person he's mooching from.
His idea was to have his "followers" send money to help pay the woman
housing him for some of the extra expenses that having a mooch sitting
on his ass all day would entail. The response was 10 bucks for June.
Thus the July hissy fit.

Mind you, she's been diagnosed with a terminal illness, gets treatment
that is quite stressful and still works a job. John? Don't be silly! His
ego trip as the savior of man is his job. He's working for YOU!

How many kooks in a.c. have a vimeo of them losing a fight to a broken
monitor? The FB parody pages are gold. You simply can't top those. You
can send a few kooks this way while John is sulking. They're a poor
substitute for John but it's cheap entertainment at their expense.

Bring on your kooks.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Jul 13, 2023, 10:05:26 AM7/13/23
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Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote in
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But we do! His Laz Mann sockpuppet posts every now and then to shill and
beg for money.

> Suspecting you don't have John himself posting in RSPW because
> his is a suspected anxious-avoidant attachment
> strategy. (I wouldn't expect him to post, it's too
> hostile for him.)

No, it's because John's last explicit appearance as Net.Bastard was such
an overwhelming failure that he has no desire to own up to his rants.
He's stopped in and attempted to be someone else since. Don't
overanalyze it.



John Henry

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Jul 13, 2023, 1:57:31 PM7/13/23
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All of this is bullshit. This person - who is almost certainly not Dave Zimmerman, as I can't recall a single time Dave and I ever had hostility nor can I think of any reason he'd be involved; the last I heard anything about him he'd supposedly moved to Australia or something after a woman in the UK he was trying to hook up with dumped him - has spent the last twenty-five years or so hiding behind sockpuppets and recruiting petit trolls and harassers to do his dirty work for him, while hiding behind an army of sockpuppets and fake names and leveraging the various helpful aspects of different websites and social media networks to conceal his identity. They know I tend to REALLY piss off a small set of folks, and they feed those folks and encourage them to escalate and propagate all the BS, so as to ensure nobody can be held directly responsible for any of it.

This is the first time I've posted to this group since 2018. The only reason I'm here now is because I googled my name on a whim and realized that this is a huge part of the reason I can't get a job at all beyond schtupping canned goods at a grocery store or digging ditches, neither of which I'm physically able to do anymore due to various wear and tear related to aging - I'm fifty-two.

When I stopped by here at the end of 2018 - at the encouragement of a "friend" - I was here for half an hour, took one look at the place, and went "no fuckin' way, the few people left here are completely out of their tree, fuck. all. this." That was after having left back in 2005 because I founded a non-profit theater group and didn't want this person and their fellow travelers hassling a bunch of kids.

I've never made a secret of my "secrets." I was strung out on coke for a dozen years, up until '99. I was a physically abusive boyfriend and father; the latter debatable even by current standards (this is a country that loves corporal punishment!), and I've been very open about that in public in the hope that by doing so I could encourage others suffering from similar mental health issues to get help and get better.

This person - whose identity I don't know with certainty, but it's one of two, to 95%CI - has been playing this game for at least two decades. They've contacted my family multiple times; one of them spent a few years soliciting nudes from my then-underage daughter. They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current roommate before anyone even knew I was living here. There is a very slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now is partially compromised; I genuinely have no idea how they even knew where I was, let alone who I was with, as the two of us go quite far back and have mutual acquaintances, and we both were very much not interested in any of them (including members of my family) know of the connection, but they were in my roommate's ear within a week or so of my moving in here.

There are at least two people involved here who are pathologically obsessed with me. One of them has encouraged the other to believe that I'm posting here under all these sockpuppets and playing all these games but the truth is I've been trying to shake the stink of this dump out of my hair for basically two decades now.

I suspect the biggest problem is that many years ago I ended up jaw-flapping my way into the wrestling business where I had a great time and met some famous people, and they wanted that but didn't have any of the necessary skills or attributes to make it happen. And I walked away. I've been focused mostly on political activism and writing since then, and haven't looked back.

I had believed that my increasing difficulty in finding any job that involves so much as a cursory background check was related to that activity - leftist anti-capitalist anti-corporate authoritarian with a personality and solid stage presence, if I'm an employer I can understand how I wouldn't hire that guy he's gonna come in and unionize my shop and be a rabble-rouser, turn us in to OSHA for cutting corners or whatever. Hell, he's "ANTIFA," and "we all know" they're "terrorists." Cost of doing business; if you're gonna fight city hall, you gotta expect city hall's gonna fight back. I'm fighting plutocracy and oligarchy and the rise of American fascism and ultimately capitalism itself - it's an unsustainable poison in our culture and world, compromising integrity and creating conflict of interest in everything it touches including health care, education, media, and criminal justice - and it stands to reason that those who are participating in capitalism would not want to help fund that because they see it as a threat to their way of life (which it is, because collectively our way of life is shit and has to change or we're just not gonna last much longer). So I kind of just went 'eh,' took the hit, kept up my work, and have relied on crowdfunding and what little menial labor work I could find to survive.

A couple of days ago, on a whim, I googled my full name, and found this ungodly shitpile with my name all over it, stretching back decades. It's not unintentional that my full name is used so frequently; the entire point of that is to do precisely what has been done, which is to ensure that anyone googling me runs smack into a litany of supposed offenses ranging from farting in church to grand larceny to child abuse to DUI. It shows up before anything, including my own websites.

This is why I've spent the last fifteen years or so having great interviews and feeling like I probably had a gig, only to get that classic phone call of Jim Crow and other sub-surface discrimination: "sorry, we found another candidate." This is why I don't have a gig now with someone like Progress Michigan or the ACLU or the campaigns of progressive candidates like Sanders or Tlaib.

In the main these people can't stand me because they wish they had the spine to BE me, to face all the crap that's been piled on and survive and keep fighting, because they know they wouldn't be able to. This is why one of them encouraged me to have myself committed - all in "friendship" and "concern" of course - because they've been 5150'd multiple times and they're pissed that I haven't. There are other things that I'm not going to go into detail about here and now, for reasons of my own...but those reasons aren't to hide anything about myself beyond what I'm doing right now aside from writing this message.

You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid," there have been 160+ conversations in this group about me *this year*. You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid," these people know so much about me and my life - I've never mentioned my roommate's name in public, and neither has she.

It started off, some 25+ years ago, being a bunch of dumbasses playing wrassler on the internet, cutting stupid promos and pretending to be all that stuff for giggles. Then a few people started crossing lines, interfering with people's jobs (the first time it happened to me was in 1997 I think, at NCSU). Then when those targeted swung back and landed a few hits of their own, the psychos really lost it and escalated. As I said above, eventually it got to the point where it wasn't worth participating given the level of BS in unrelated life that it created, and I walked away.

There's nothing a narcissist hates more than being ignored, and it appears at least two - possibly more, I have no way of knowing for sure, that's part of their game - narcissists have made me the focus of blame for their failed and miserable lives, and have worked quite a bit harder than I'd realized up until the last couple of days to ensure my life was just as failed and miserable as theirs. Except unlike them, I don't have a trail of insecure but affluent women stretching back over the last three decades that I've stolen from and beat on and abused; I stopped dating in March of 2001 for various reasons, all of them related to not wanting to get involved in a relationship again until I could do so in a healthy way and get my insecurities and fears and such under control. Unlike them, I admit I *have* a daughter. Unlike them, I haven't made up stories about joining the military to cover having my ass rubber-roomed. Unlike them, I haven't made the last twenty years about making other people's lives miserable and hurting people because it's the only thing I know how to do.

And unlike them, I'm not cross-posting all of this to every troll farm and harassment base etc. I can find in the hopes of recruiting them to join in on the harassment.

I haven't "reinvented myself," ever. I haven't even cut my hair in almost 15 years and other than a lot of gray and some extra pounds look exactly like I did when I was 20. Other than pissing around on Usenet back in the mid-late 90s and early 2000s (as above), I've never tried to hide my identity or pretend to be anyone else but who I am. I haven't "deleted my work" or tried to "hide" thing - everything I've ever put on the web is readily available through the wayback machine. That said, I do tend to block and ban harassers and the kinds of wet-fart personalities who do psycho shit like posting lie after lie after lie to comment sections on my social media pages and then claim I'm "hiding something" when I boot them.

That's part of their problem, you see - they hide behind technology and arcane systems that are easy to spoof and hide your identity on, and that most people including the vast majority of law enforcement don't understand. I just got off the phone with MIAG, and I had to explain to them what USENET is. Their answer is "well just have your lawyer (hah!) contact google and delete the messages." The girl on the phone at the FBI was audibly eyerolling as soon as I said "internet."

Understand that *I am an antifascist, anti-authoritarian, left-wing small-L libertarian, i.e. "ansoc," anarcho-socialist. I believe the only valid functions of government are regulation of commerce and industry, and protecting the general public from psychotic losers like this.

Unfortunately we don't live in that world. Indeed, to a certain point they even have "the right" to say what they want. Of course that right ends firmly at slander, but that doesn't really matter when you can't even canonically identify who's involved, now does it? What am I gonna do, sue a sockpuppet?

These people want to see me ended because they can't live up to who I am at my worst, and they don't even want you to see me at my best. That's why there are 160 conversations about me in six months, in a newsgroup I haven't given serious thought in nearly twenty years.

A few months ago, one of the primary actors, who I believe is in a major decompensation event after I finally told them to get the hell out of my world and stay out, started feeding a random FB dick I was arguing with this information, and in doing so provided me with sufficient evidence to be 99.8% certain who that person was - and I'd suspected them for a very long time, suspicions that were also confirmed by various behavioral tics and such in our interactions over time. Then when I found all this a couple of days ago, it got to 99.9.

There's really only a few people in the world who have both the technical know-how and the motivation to do this to me. I can think of exactly two by name...and I'm beginning to suspect that much of the alleged involvement of Dink in all of this is also a smokescreen because he's such a moron it's easy to think he'd be responsible. And I think he's got his hands in, because he's a psycho loser and we've all known that for twenty-five years, but frankly he appears to have enough going on in his life to simply not have this much free time on his hands, and if he offered to just let it all drop and walk away...well, I'd be doing the same thing I have been, which is forgetting about him (at least until a "friend" shows up pretending to be him and brings it up again).

But it's not all him, and I suspect he's been manipulated a bit by the other one...just like pretty much everybody dogpiling these threads has. Of course I can't "prove," because that's the point. To make me seem "paranoid" and "delusional" and maybe get frustrated enough to get my ass thrown in a rubber room like he did.

In the end, they hate my spirit because they're ashamed of themselves - far too ashamed to admit to anyone who they are or what they do, or to come out from behind the sockpuppets and fake accounts and AI-generated bullshit - and they see me being ashamed and owning it, knowing they don't have the guts to measure up to that, and since they can't rise to my level, all they have left is to drag me down to theirs...and it's literally driving them nuts that they can't.

I know what my sins and crimes are, and I've been quite public about owning up to them - as you can clearly see. Have I posted a fourth-step inventory to the world? No. It's not necessary and it would only serve to open old wounds and possibly cause harm in the very act of trying to reduce or make amends for that harm. That's why the 9th step includes the caveat "...wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others." Sometimes it's not possible, sometimes the attempt would do further harm. There are plenty of such things that have been done to me, as well, and there won't be amends made for those. Some amends can't be made, some mistakes can't be un-made, and sometimes the only thing you can do is say "well, that sucked," and keep on moving forward and living your life.

That's what I've been trying to do for twenty years, and these weirdos just will. not. let. go.

I've done everything I could to complete that step. I've made my amends to those I've harmed whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others; and I've changed my behavior to avoid harming anyone else - including flat-out avoiding any sort of physical relationship for 18 years. I've tried to help others. In some cases, that help was turned on me and shoved into my back like a blade, but that's gonna happen sometimes when you're trying to help people who are addicts and suffering with serious mental illness and dysfunction.

But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to improving the world around me, including helping those who are still caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope; to show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy of life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and they can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've learned to do. There's nothing else I *can* do in most cases short of hara-kiri, and while I live with major depressive disorder and there's not a day that goes by that I don't think of killing myself at least once, it's just thoughts. I'm not going to do that, because I still have good work to do in this world, and I'm not going to let anyone, including myself, stop me from doing it.

And that, more than anything else, is why a couple of badly broken, deranged, and psychotic narcissists have been up my ass like a colonoscopy for twenty years.

Anyone who is buying in to this is being played for a patsy by a psycho, and the psycho isn't me.

I don't hide. I don't sock up and pretend to be other people. I don't work back-channel and in the shadows, dealing in rumor and innuendo and faked screenshots and exploiting addiction and desperation and even just the petty venality of punch-down trolling to hurt people who I know I have no valid reason to hurt.

I'm no prince, no messiah, no "great good man." I've done some pretty rotten things in my life, and I'm doing what I can to balance that.

These people don't want that to happen, because if it does then they're left with nothing but to look at their own failure to address their own issues and know that the failure is indeed their own.

Don't get sucked in to it. You're being used and manipulated by at least one, probably two, and maybe several psychotic narcissists who have been caught in a feedback loop of blaming me for their problems for over half their lives.

Now I'm leaving again, and I don't intend to be back. Stop falling for this "oh it's JH in a sock" shit. It isn't. If I've got something to say, I'll say it loud and clear with my own face and voice, just as I always have.

I hope those of you who have spent half your lives up my ass manage to get the help you so clearly and desperately need.

PS: I'm not naming the "friend" because I'm not going to give them anything to hang their own lawsuit on, just as I didn't interfere in their abusive relationships because if I did, they'd blame me for those relationships collapsing. You all know who I mean.

Best,
John Henry DeJong
Kalamazoo, MI

John Henry

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PPS: "he latter debatable even by current standards (this is a country that loves corporal punishment!)"

I forgot to add, explicitly, that I *do* accept that I was abusive, and I hate myself for it every day, and I work to try to help other people see that behavior is abusive, whether it's "just" spanking or "worse." I'm not claiming to be pristine and pure, and I never have. I was absolute shit from the time I was 17 until I was about thirty, and then another good 7 or 8 years of intense self-examination and hard work to understand why I was that way and what I needed to do to not be.

Just throwing that out there so "Dave" here doesn't try to rewrite the narrative to suggest I'm pretending I've never done anything wrong.
-jh

Skeeter

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In article <162ccb3a-2f61-4611...@googlegroups.com>,
johnhenry...@gmail.com says...
I'm 70 and can still work. I just don't have to.

John Henry

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I don't care, and I don't need to validate myself to you or anyone else. I said "good day."

Skeeter

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In article <ccc3521c-b28f-45f0...@googlegroups.com>,
johnhenry...@gmail.com says...
>
> I don't care, and I don't need to validate myself to you or anyone else. I said "good day."

Then leave.

John Henry

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Ooo, Mr. Power and control's gonna be billy badass and order me to do what I'd have already done an hour ago if he wasn't continuing to respond.

But I'm the one who "lacks self-awareness." FFS.

Skeeter

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In article <0bcefce7-061c-4fd5...@googlegroups.com>,
johnhenry...@gmail.com says...
Yet here you are. Do you want me to allow you to leave?

Family Guy

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On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 4:04:34 PM UTC-4, Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
> Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote in
> news:lQtrM.102149$eGef....@fx47.iad:
> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 14:32:50 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
> >
> >> John is trolling for new victims by telling how he's a victim. So how
> >> best to do that? Start off with a rant that nobody will read!
> >>
> >> That's how a genius with an IQ of 150 thinks.
> >
> > This is for John:
> >
> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipJIV6hc1Ls
> >
> > It's a 38 minute video. Watch the first 5 minutes to see if it
> > interests you.
> >
> > Take it in chunks: the psychologist lady is informative, but it's
> > hard work.
> John has no shame. If even 10% of the abuses he's done to women are
> true, he has none.

John filed a restraining order against shame many years ago. It's filed in the courts next to his restraining order against personal hygiene and self-awareness.


> >> train tracks
> >
> > C'mon, that's a sign of desperation. You are shame-bound. So
> > are a lot of people. Before you do yourself in in manners
> > selfish, please consider watching the video.
> > _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> John threatens or hints at suicide fairly often. However someone
> informed me that John has either closed, made private or deleted his
> FarceTw*t pages of mooch and his other begging avenues (AKA the
> webshites of scrounging) are 404.


Careful. If he finds out you wrote that, he might make another suicide threat.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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"Checkmate <moderat...@baseball.bat>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>
wrote in news:MPG.3f19cbe06...@usnews.blocknews.net:

> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
> by Checkmate.
>
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:02:20 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 had the
> Be careful what you wish for, although I don't think any of our
> current kooks could be driven to providing meltdown videos. There was
> Emmett Gully, but he finally broke the habit and left. That was
> probably the smartest move he could have made. He had a lot of real
> issues that were only aggravated by Usenet.

John hasn't been locked up for multiple crimes like Emmett but what I've
heard is that's something that should have happened.

Emmett was begging in RSPW a few years back and got no traction, so
whatever he's doing now is likely "scut work" that's beneath John[1].

RSPW has seen their share of kooks, nothing should faze those that are
left. John will be back and mooching soon enough. Feel free to crosspost
all kooks to RSPW.

We'll try to return them in the same condition and all that.

[1] Yes, John actually said that. He also put up a video about why he
doesn't get a job a few days back. It's likely gone at this point.

Family Guy

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Oh I hope this is the "real" JHD and not some clown impersonating him. If it is "him", then HI, JO-JO! REMEMBER ME? THE BOOGEYMAN? The dude who didn't but you said did get you shitcanned from Lyft for driving with your penis out?



>This person - who is almost certainly not Dave Zimmerman, as I can't recall a single time Dave and I ever had hostility nor can I think of any reason he'd be involved;


Oh, I'm kinda sorta pretty sure that it's him. Mostly because he does such a good job pointing out that you are a self-centered, clueless asshole.




>the last I heard anything about him he'd supposedly moved to Australia or something after a woman in the UK he was trying to hook up with dumped him - has spent the last twenty-five years or so hiding behind sockpuppets and recruiting petit trolls and harassers to do his dirty work for him, while hiding behind an army of sockpuppets and fake names and leveraging the various helpful aspects of different websites and social media networks to conceal his identity.

Punctuation is your friend. Also sounds like what your buddy Chadlee "Lee" Anvil Bryant does and has done.
Well. Except the recruiting part. Since nobody wants to 'work' for him and he so easily comes across as an even bigger douche than you.





>They know I tend to REALLY piss off a small set of folks, and they feed those folks and encourage them to escalate and propagate all the BS, so as to ensure nobody can be held directly responsible for any of it.


Hey John, have you met my friend Mr. Para Noya? He's from Nepal. Real nice guy. Once climbed half of Mount Everest.


>
> This is the first time I've posted to this group since 2018.

Ooo! Ooo! Are we going to get another video of John Henry v. computer monitor? I always wanted to see a rematch!



>The only reason I'm here now is because


...you are a self-centered, narcissistic, bullshitting loser who was probably tipped off by your pal "Lee." Either that or you have been lurking for weeks or months.



>I googled my name on a whim and realized that this is a huge part of the reason I can't get a job at all


Actually, the "huge part" is because you refuse to fucking find one.
You come up with some bullshit excuse every single time the subject is breeched -- which is mostly by you.

YOU think yourself as some sort of savior-like, one-man-FOX-news-channel and that everyone should give you money so you don't have to actually work.
YOU try to pass yourself off as some sort of untouchable, god-like figure who knows it all but is never listened to by anyone.
I guess what I am trying to say is, you are SOL because of, well, yourself.




>beyond schtupping canned goods at a grocery store or digging ditches, neither of which I'm physically able to do anymore due to various wear and tear related to aging - I'm fifty-two.
>

I'm 47 and if I had to do it, I would do either of those jobs. I have had servers (waiters) who have been in their 60s and 70s. You are full of shit trying to blame your laziness on age.



> When I stopped by here at the end of 2018 - at the encouragement of a "friend" -

Why not just say his name? Chadlee Anvil Bryant, now "Lee" Bryant attempted to restart his "life" because his real full name is all over the Internet screaming his insanity & psychosis..



>I was here for half an hour, took one look at the place, and went "no fuckin' way,


Coward.



>the few people left here are completely out of their tree, fuck. all. this."


You do realize that your (ahem) "friend" was one of those 'completely out of their tree.'?



>That was after having left back in 2005 because I founded a non-profit theater group and didn't want this person and their fellow travelers hassling a bunch of kids.
>


You? Founding a non-profit theater group? That's about as believable as Michael Jackson founding a daycare center.



> I've never made a secret of my "secrets." I was strung out on coke for a dozen years, up until '99.

Oh I think it went a little past 1999, John....


>I was a physically abusive boyfriend and father;


So this is why your daughter doesn't give a shit about you right now.


>the latter debatable even by current standards (this is a country that loves corporal punishment!), and I've been very open about that in public in the hope that by doing so I could encourage others suffering from similar mental health issues to get help and get better.


You and mental health need a little time apart, Jo-Jo.


>
> This person - whose identity I don't know with certainty, but it's one of two, to 95%CI - has been playing this game for at least two decades.

Ooo! Ooo! Is one of them me? Teacher please call on me! I'm ever so smart!
By the way. Can't be a "person" if you think it is more than one.




> They've contacted my family multiple times; one of them spent a few years soliciting nudes from my then-underage daughter.

But did she send them?


>They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current roommate before anyone even knew I was living here.

Um...how is that even possible, John?
See, statements like THAT are why people point out your paranoia and insanity.





>There is a very slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now is partially compromised;

Mr. Para Noya had to go back to Nepal, John. But he sends greetings from his friend, Ima Kray Z. Parson.



>I genuinely have no idea how they even knew where I was, let alone who I was with, as the two of us go quite far back and have mutual acquaintances, and we both were very much not interested in any of them (including members of my family) know of the connection, but they were in my roommate's ear within a week or so of my moving in here.


But you just said that it was BEFORE you moved there.




>
> There are at least two people involved here who are pathologically obsessed with me.

Oh, boy! Narcissism! Well, it's a change from paranoia, at least.



> One of them has encouraged the other to believe that I'm posting here under all these sockpuppets and playing all these games but the truth is I've been trying to shake the stink of this dump out of my hair for basically two decades now.


DumpSTER. DumpSTER, John. You know--the one you lost the fight against via the monitor?




>
> I suspect the biggest problem is

Well, let's be honest...you have so many of them that to find one as 'biggest' isn't exactly easy.
Can we start with your delusional narcissism, and then move on to your paranoia, self-centered behavioral bullshit and begging?




>that many years ago I ended up jaw-flapping my way into the wrestling business where I had a great time and met some famous people,

I remember you claiming to have done coke with the Hardy Boys. Or was that the Brady Bunch?



>and they wanted that but didn't have any of the necessary skills or attributes to make it happen. And I walked away. I've been focused mostly on political activism and writing since then, and haven't looked back.

Jo-Jo you never look back. It's one of your "problems." You really should tape a mirror to yourself.


>
> I had believed that my increasing difficulty in finding any job that involves so much as a cursory background check was related to that activity -


...A stupid move.



> leftist anti-capitalist anti-corporate authoritarian with a personality and solid stage presence, if I'm an employer I can understand how I wouldn't hire that guy he's gonna come in and unionize my shop and be a rabble-rouser, turn us in to OSHA for cutting corners or whatever.


Where in the fuck are you applying?



>Hell, he's "ANTIFA," and "we all know" they're "terrorists." Cost of doing business; if you're gonna fight city hall, you gotta expect city hall's gonna fight back.

You couldn't "fight city hall" if you were given boxing lessons by Mike Tyson.



> I'm fighting plutocracy and oligarchy and the rise of American fascism and ultimately capitalism itself


No. No, you aren't.



>- it's an unsustainable poison in our culture and world, compromising integrity and creating conflict of interest in everything it touches including health care, education, media, and criminal justice - and it stands to reason that those who are participating in capitalism would not want to help fund that because they see it as a threat to their way of life (which it is, because collectively our way of life is shit and has to change or we're just not gonna last much longer). So I kind of just went 'eh,' took the hit, kept up my work, and have relied on crowdfunding and what little menial labor work I could find to survive.


"People didn't give me money because they stupid."


>
> A couple of days ago, on a whim, I googled my full name, and found this ungodly shitpile with my name all over it, stretching back decades.

...Guess whose fault that is?


>It's not unintentional that my full name is used so frequently;


Well, John Henry DeJong, you could always change your name like your friend Chadlee Anvil Bryant did.



> the entire point of that is to do precisely what has been done, which is to ensure that anyone googling me runs smack into a litany of supposed offenses ranging from farting in church to grand larceny to child abuse to DUI. It shows up before anything, including my own websites.


I am agog and aghast.



>
> This is why I've spent the last fifteen years or so having great interviews and feeling like I probably had a gig,

If you have been trying to "have a gig" for fifteen years, perhaps it is time you tried something else.


>only to get that classic phone call of Jim Crow and other sub-surface discrimination: "sorry, we found another candidate."


um.....er.....ahhh....I can't figure out if you are being racist here, trying to blame your lack of employment ON something related to racism, being sarcastic or just...being whatever the hell are you being.



> This is why I don't have a gig now with someone like Progress Michigan or the ACLU or the campaigns of progressive candidates like Sanders or Tlaib.


No. You don't have a "gig" with those because you lack qualifications, have a shitty resume, a piss poor personal attitude and you have almost no social skills in existence.



>
> In the main these people can't stand me because they wish they had the spine to BE me,

"They didn't hire me because they didn't like me and because they wanted to BE me!"
If your narcissism was screaming any louder, someone would call the police.



> to face all the crap that's been piled on and survive and keep fighting, because they know they wouldn't be able to.

"I DIDN'T WANT YOUR DUMB OLD STUPID JOB ANYWAY!"


>This is why one of them encouraged me to have myself committed -

Er, I'm pretty sure there were more reasons than one for someone to encourage you to commit yourself to a mental hospital.


> all in "friendship" and "concern" of course - because they've been 5150'd multiple times and they're pissed that I haven't. There are other things that I'm not going to go into detail about here and now, for reasons of my own...but those reasons aren't to hide anything about myself beyond what I'm doing right now aside from writing this message.


Ah. The old troll / Chadlee trick, "I know a lot but I won't tell you" routine.


>
> You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid,"


There is no "if" in that sentence, John.



>there have been 160+ conversations in this group about me *this year*.


Because people are mocking you, not praising you.
You seem to enjoy publicly acting stupid.



>You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid,"


Again. No "if."



> these people know so much about me and my life - I've never mentioned my roommate's name in public, and neither has she.
>

But now you give a clue that it is a female.


> It started off, some 25+ years ago, being a bunch of dumbasses playing wrassler on the internet, cutting stupid promos and pretending to be all that stuff for giggles.


Does that include your infamous "posedown," or the time you posted a photo of your penis to prove you were getting oral sex from a prostitute?



>Then a few people started crossing lines, interfering with people's jobs (the first time it happened to me was in 1997 I think, at NCSU).

Ah yes, the infamous "John-thinks-he-is-untouchable" incident. Well. One of them, anyway.
Remember when you impersonated the webmaster of the Bellsouth website, in an attempt to get me TOSsed? You prick.



> Then when those targeted swung back and landed a few hits of their own, the psychos really lost it and escalated.

Interesting that you call yourself a psycho.



> As I said above, eventually it got to the point where it wasn't worth participating given the level of BS in unrelated life that it created, and I walked away.


More like stumbled away drunk.

>
> There's nothing a narcissist hates more than being ignored, and it appears at least two - possibly more, I have no way of knowing for sure, that's part of their game - narcissists have made me the focus of blame for their failed and miserable lives, and have worked quite a bit harder than I'd realized up until the last couple of days to ensure my life was just as failed and miserable as theirs


./...Something a narcissist would write.


>. Except unlike them, I don't have a trail of insecure but affluent women stretching back over the last three decades that I've stolen from and beat on and abused;


Only the last two decades.


>I stopped dating in March of 2001 for various reasons,


Bisexuality?


>all of them related to not wanting to get involved in a relationship again until I could do so in a healthy way and get my insecurities and fears and such under control. Unlike them, I admit I *have* a daughter. Unlike them, I haven't made up stories about joining the military to cover having my ass rubber-roomed.

Is that a swipe at Chadlee?



> Unlike them, I haven't made the last twenty years about making other people's lives miserable and hurting people because it's the only thing I know how to do.
>


Is that ANOTHER swipe at Chadlee?


> And unlike them, I'm not cross-posting all of this to every troll farm and harassment base etc. I can find in the hopes of recruiting them to join in on the harassment.


Is that a THIRD swipe at Chadlee?

>
> I haven't "reinvented myself," ever.

Let's face it. Even if you did, you'd never get a patent.



> I haven't even cut my hair in almost 15 years

Perhaps, oh, I don't know...this could be one of the reasons you keep getting turned down for jobs?



> and other than a lot of gray and some extra pounds look exactly like I did when I was 20.

You look about as much as you did at 20 as Chadlee does when he was an infant.
Well, scratch that. Chadlee was a fat turd even then.


>Other than pissing around on Usenet back in the mid-late 90s and early 2000s (as above), I've never tried to hide my identity or pretend to be anyone else but who I am.

Except webm...@bellsouth.net



> I haven't "deleted my work" or tried to "hide" thing


Then explain your latest "disappearance" on YouTube and Facebook, among other platforms.


> - everything I've ever put on the web is readily available through the wayback machine.

Um. Wayback does what it does for a reason.
You don't and can't say you haven't "disappeared: just because wayback has it.



> That said, I do tend to block and ban harassers and the kinds of wet-fart personalities who do psycho shit like posting lie after lie after lie to comment sections on my social media pages and then claim I'm "hiding something" when I boot them.

Because booting them and ignoring their remarks is something sane people do.


>
> That's part of their problem, you see - they hide behind technology and arcane systems that are easy to spoof and hide your identity on, and that most people including the vast majority of law enforcement don't understand.

You haven't gone to the cops since that time you thought birds were listening to your phone conversations.




> I just got off the phone with MIAG, and I had to explain to them what USENET is. Their answer is "well just have your lawyer (hah!) contact google and delete the messages." The girl on the phone at the FBI was audibly eyerolling as soon as I said "internet."


I believed you called the FBI as much as I believe you don't have an overflowing toilet.


>
> Understand that *I am an antifascist, anti-authoritarian, left-wing small-L libertarian, i.e. "ansoc," anarcho-socialist. I believe the only valid functions of government are regulation of commerce and industry, and protecting the general public from psychotic losers like this.


Understand you *are* crazy, insane, narcissistic, self-absorbed.


>
> Unfortunately we don't live in that world. Indeed, to a certain point they even have "the right" to say what they want.


"To a certain point?"



> Of course that right ends firmly at slander, but that doesn't really matter when you can't even canonically identify who's involved, now does it? What am I gonna do, sue a sockpuppet?
>

I can see you doing that, but it being a literal sock with buttons for eyes.


> These people want to see me ended

People want to see you "ended" because you are a dumbass, John, and they are sick of your shit.



>because they can't live up to who I am at my worst, and they don't even want you to see me at my best. That's why there are 160 conversations about me in six months, in a newsgroup I haven't given serious thought in nearly twenty years.

Again. Mocking.


>
> A few months ago, one of the primary actors, who I believe is in a major decompensation event after I finally told them to get the hell out of my world and stay out, started feeding a random FB dick I was arguing with this information, and in doing so provided me with sufficient evidence to be 99.8% certain who that person was - and I'd suspected them for a very long time, suspicions that were also confirmed by various behavioral tics and such in our interactions over time. Then when I found all this a couple of days ago, it got to 99.9.
>

Ooo! Ooo! Was it me again? Please say it was me!


> There's really only a few people in the world who have both the technical know-how and the motivation to do this to me.

So my other friend had to go - business meeting or something - but I have another friend, Ura Nuttur, from Tibet. Shake hands, Jo-Jo.




>I can think of exactly two by name...and I'm beginning to suspect that much of the alleged involvement of Dink in all of this is also a smokescreen because he's such a moron it's easy to think he'd be responsible.



I LOVE YOU, YOU CRAZY DUCKED UP SON OF A BITCH.



> And I think he's got his hands in, because he's a psycho loser and we've all known that for twenty-five years, but frankly he appears to have enough going on in his life to simply not have this much free time on his hands, and if he offered to just let it all drop and walk away...well, I'd be doing the same thing I have been, which is forgetting about him (at least until a "friend" shows up pretending to be him and brings it up again).


Is that about me, or about someone else?


>
> But it's not all him, and I suspect he's been manipulated a bit by the other one...just like pretty much everybody dogpiling these threads has. Of course I can't "prove," because that's the point. To make me seem "paranoid" and "delusional" and maybe get frustrated enough to get my ass thrown in a rubber room like he did.


But you ARE paranoid and delusional, Jo-Jo.



>
> In the end, they hate my spirit because they're ashamed of themselves - far too ashamed to admit to anyone who they are or what they do, or to come out from behind the sockpuppets and fake accounts and AI-generated bullshit - and they see me being ashamed and owning it, knowing they don't have the guts to measure up to that, and since they can't rise to my level, all they have left is to drag me down to theirs...and it's literally driving them nuts that they can't.


You don't have a level to rise to. You are an imploded submersible on the RSPW ocean floor.



>
> I know what my sins and crimes are,

"Crimes?"
So...you called the FBI...knowing you were a criminal.
Yea. That makes sense.


>and I've been quite public about owning up to them - as you can clearly see. Have I posted a fourth-step inventory to the world? No. It's not necessary and it would only serve to open old wounds and possibly cause harm in the very act of trying to reduce or make amends for that harm. That's why the 9th step includes the caveat "...wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others." Sometimes it's not possible, sometimes the attempt would do further harm. There are plenty of such things that have been done to me, as well, and there won't be amends made for those. Some amends can't be made, some mistakes can't be un-made, and sometimes the only thing you can do is say "well, that sucked," and keep on moving forward and living your life.


The amount of Crazy in that statement is so thick you could use it as caulking.

>
> That's what I've been trying to do for twenty years, and these weirdos just will. not. let. go.
>

For 20 years you have been a loser, John.


> I've done everything I could to complete that step. I've made my amends to those I've harmed whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others; and I've changed my behavior to avoid harming anyone else - including flat-out avoiding any sort of physical relationship for 18 years. I've tried to help others. In some cases, that help was turned on me and shoved into my back like a blade, but that's gonna happen sometimes when you're trying to help people who are addicts and suffering with serious mental illness and dysfunction.


I loved it when the stripper kicked you in the groin and ran.


>
> But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to improving the world around me, including helping those who are still caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope; to show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy of life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and they can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've learned to do. There's nothing else I *can* do in most cases short of hara-kiri, and while I live with major depressive disorder and there's not a day that goes by that I don't think of killing myself at least once, it's just thoughts. I'm not going to do that, because I still have good work to do in this world, and I'm not going to let anyone, including myself, stop me from doing it.


YAY! I was wondering when we would get to a suicide threat! Took you damn near long enough!


>
> And that, more than anything else, is why a couple of badly broken, deranged, and psychotic narcissists have been up my ass like a colonoscopy for twenty years.
>
> Anyone who is buying in to this is being played for a patsy by a psycho, and the psycho isn't me.


Nobody buys into you. Mostly because your stock price is too low.

>
> I don't hide. I don't sock up and pretend to be other people.

Except webm...@bellsouth.net


> I don't work back-channel and in the shadows, dealing in rumor and innuendo and faked screenshots and exploiting addiction and desperation and even just the petty venality of punch-down trolling to hurt people who I know I have no valid reason to hurt.
>
> I'm no prince, no messiah, no "great good man." I've done some pretty rotten things in my life, and I'm doing what I can to balance that.

Killing yourself would be a nice start.

>
> These people don't want that to happen, because if it does then they're left with nothing but to look at their own failure to address their own issues and know that the failure is indeed their own.


Narcissism is so thick on that statement you could use it to paint houses.

>
> Don't get sucked in to it. You're being used and manipulated by at least one, probably two, and maybe several psychotic narcissists who have been caught in a feedback loop of blaming me for their problems for over half their lives.


Well in their defense, you have been publicly bullshitting for a long time.

>
> Now I'm leaving again, and I don't intend to be back. Stop falling for this "oh it's JH in a sock" shit. It isn't. If I've got something to say, I'll say it loud and clear with my own face and voice, just as I always have.

THE BIG JOHN HENRY DEJONG IS WINNING AGAIN! HE IS THE GREETEST! NOW HE IS LEAVING FOR NO RAISIN!


>
> I hope those of you who have spent half your lives up my ass manage to get the help you so clearly and desperately need.

Kill yourself.

>
> PS: I'm not naming the "friend" because I'm not going to give them anything to hang their own lawsuit on, just as I didn't interfere in their abusive relationships because if I did, they'd blame me for those relationships collapsing. You all know who I mean.
>

"I' going to write a 2,000+ rant about someone, but won't tell you about who."


> Best,
> John Henry DeJong
> Kalamazoo, MI

Go fuck yoruself.

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He's sure flopping about in the boat. It's almost as if he doesn't want to
leave.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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John Henry <johnhenry...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Beautiful run on sentences, using a semi-colon and just plain old
batshit lies! Could this really be the real John Henry back after 5
years?

Let's see!

John tends to piss off anyone who hates mooches too.

> This is the first time I've posted to this group since 2018. The only
> reason I'm here now is because I googled my name on a whim and
> realized that this is a huge part of the reason I can't get a job at
> all beyond schtupping canned goods at a grocery store or digging
> ditches, neither of which I'm physically able to do anymore due to
> various wear and tear related to aging - I'm fifty-two.

John certainly does try to erase his history.

> When I stopped by here at the end of 2018 - at the encouragement of a
> "friend" - I was here for half an hour, took one look at the place,
> and went "no fuckin' way, the few people left here are completely out
> of their tree, fuck. all. this." That was after having left back in
> 2005 because I founded a non-profit theater group and didn't want this
> person and their fellow travelers hassling a bunch of kids.

A half hour? Liar.

> I've never made a secret of my "secrets." I was strung out on coke
> for a dozen years, up until '99. I was a physically abusive boyfriend
> and father; the latter debatable even by current standards (this is a
> country that loves corporal punishment!), and I've been very open
> about that in public in the hope that by doing so I could encourage
> others suffering from similar mental health issues to get help and get
> better.

What about the people and pocketbooks you've abused, John?

> This person - whose identity I don't know with certainty, but it's one
> of two, to 95%CI - has been playing this game for at least two
> decades. They've contacted my family multiple times; one of them
> spent a few years soliciting nudes from my then-underage daughter.
> They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current
> roommate before anyone even knew I was living here. There is a very
> slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now is
> partially compromised; I genuinely have no idea how they even knew
> where I was, let alone who I was with, as the two of us go quite far
> back and have mutual acquaintances, and we both were very much not
> interested in any of them (including members of my family) know of the
> connection, but they were in my roommate's ear within a week or so of
> my moving in here.

So you won't name names? That's the coward I know.

> There are at least two people involved here who are pathologically
> obsessed with me. One of them has encouraged the other to believe
> that I'm posting here under all these sockpuppets and playing all
> these games but the truth is I've been trying to shake the stink of
> this dump out of my hair for basically two decades now.

Have you forgotten all abou t their henchcritters, you paranoid fool?

Being ridiculous attracts ridicule, John.

> I suspect the biggest problem is that many years ago I ended up
> jaw-flapping my way into the wrestling business where I had a great
> time and met some famous people, and they wanted that but didn't have
> any of the necessary skills or attributes to make it happen. And I
> walked away. I've been focused mostly on political activism and
> writing since then, and haven't looked back.

It's hard to look back when you're running away from your creditors.

> I had believed that my increasing difficulty in finding any job that
> involves so much as a cursory background check was related to that
> activity - leftist anti-capitalist anti-corporate authoritarian with a
> personality and solid stage presence, if I'm an employer I can
> understand how I wouldn't hire that guy he's gonna come in and
> unionize my shop and be a rabble-rouser, turn us in to OSHA for
> cutting corners or whatever. Hell, he's "ANTIFA," and "we all know"
> they're "terrorists." Cost of doing business; if you're gonna fight
> city hall, you gotta expect city hall's gonna fight back. I'm
> fighting plutocracy and oligarchy and the rise of American fascism and
> ultimately capitalism itself - it's an unsustainable poison in our
> culture and world, compromising integrity and creating conflict of
> interest in everything it touches including health care, education,
> media, and criminal justice - and it stands to reason that those who
> are participating in capitalism would not want to help fund that
> because they see it as a threat to their way of life (which it is,
> because collectively our way of life is shit and has to change or
> we're just not gonna last much longer). So I kind of just went 'eh,'
> took the hit, kept up my work, and have relied on crowdfunding and
> what little menial labor work I could find to survive.

The crowdfunding amounted to 10 bucks last month, John. you even said
so. But you also don't work and claim you work for your "followers".
Looks like they don't want to hire an unstable nut case either.

> A couple of days ago, on a whim, I googled my full name, and found
> this ungodly shitpile with my name all over it, stretching back
> decades. It's not unintentional that my full name is used so
> frequently; the entire point of that is to do precisely what has been
> done, which is to ensure that anyone googling me runs smack into a
> litany of supposed offenses ranging from farting in church to grand
> larceny to child abuse to DUI. It shows up before anything, including
> my own websites.

Well, the child abuse is pretty damning. Ever wonder why your daughter
wants nothing to do with you?

> This is why I've spent the last fifteen years or so having great
> interviews and feeling like I probably had a gig, only to get that
> classic phone call of Jim Crow and other sub-surface discrimination:
> "sorry, we found another candidate." This is why I don't have a gig
> now with someone like Progress Michigan or the ACLU or the campaigns
> of progressive candidates like Sanders or Tlaib.

No, you're a nutcase. It doesn't take long to figure that out. Maybe
turn Republican. They like that in their paid liars.

> In the main these people can't stand me because they wish they had the
> spine to BE me, to face all the crap that's been piled on and survive
> and keep fighting, because they know they wouldn't be able to. This
> is why one of them encouraged me to have myself committed - all in
> "friendship" and "concern" of course - because they've been 5150'd
> multiple times and they're pissed that I haven't. There are other
> things that I'm not going to go into detail about here and now, for
> reasons of my own...but those reasons aren't to hide anything about
> myself beyond what I'm doing right now aside from writing this
> message.

Not me, I believe you should be in jail. Ever repay Beth Aultman, your
family or your previous landlords?

> You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid," there have
> been 160+ conversations in this group about me *this year*. You
> should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid," these people
> know so much about me and my life - I've never mentioned my roommate's
> name in public, and neither has she.

Too easy. Because people like to laugh at you and your lies.

> It started off, some 25+ years ago, being a bunch of dumbasses playing
> wrassler on the internet, cutting stupid promos and pretending to be
> all that stuff for giggles. Then a few people started crossing lines,
> interfering with people's jobs (the first time it happened to me was
> in 1997 I think, at NCSU). Then when those targeted swung back and
> landed a few hits of their own, the psychos really lost it and
> escalated. As I said above, eventually it got to the point where it
> wasn't worth participating given the level of BS in unrelated life
> that it created, and I walked away.

So you threatening people, and the wrong people at that, had nothing to
do with it?

> There's nothing a narcissist hates more than being ignored, and it
> appears at least two - possibly more, I have no way of knowing for
> sure, that's part of their game - narcissists have made me the focus
> of blame for their failed and miserable lives, and have worked quite a
> bit harder than I'd realized up until the last couple of days to
> ensure my life was just as failed and miserable as theirs. Except
> unlike them, I don't have a trail of insecure but affluent women
> stretching back over the last three decades that I've stolen from and
> beat on and abused; I stopped dating in March of 2001 for various
> reasons, all of them related to not wanting to get involved in a
> relationship again until I could do so in a healthy way and get my
> insecurities and fears and such under control. Unlike them, I admit I
> *have* a daughter. Unlike them, I haven't made up stories about
> joining the military to cover having my ass rubber-roomed. Unlike
> them, I haven't made the last twenty years about making other people's
> lives miserable and hurting people because it's the only thing I know
> how to do.

John, the stripper episode told everyone what they needed to know about
you.

> And unlike them, I'm not cross-posting all of this to every troll farm
> and harassment base etc. I can find in the hopes of recruiting them to
> join in on the harassment.

Why would you? You'll be running away shortly. Some things never change.

> I haven't "reinvented myself," ever. I haven't even cut my hair in
> almost 15 years and other than a lot of gray and some extra pounds
> look exactly like I did when I was 20. Other than pissing around on
> Usenet back in the mid-late 90s and early 2000s (as above), I've never
> tried to hide my identity or pretend to be anyone else but who I am.
> I haven't "deleted my work" or tried to "hide" thing - everything I've
> ever put on the web is readily available through the wayback machine.
> That said, I do tend to block and ban harassers and the kinds of
> wet-fart personalities who do psycho shit like posting lie after lie
> after lie to comment sections on my social media pages and then claim
> I'm "hiding something" when I boot them.

Purging a lot of your history doesn't mean that people will forget it. A
few have all of that saved off.

> That's part of their problem, you see - they hide behind technology
> and arcane systems that are easy to spoof and hide your identity on,
> and that most people including the vast majority of law enforcement
> don't understand. I just got off the phone with MIAG, and I had to
> explain to them what USENET is. Their answer is "well just have your
> lawyer (hah!) contact google and delete the messages." The girl on
> the phone at the FBI was audibly eyerolling as soon as I said
> "internet."

Oh boy. Now the FBI are laughing at John? What's a moocher to do?

> Understand that *I am an antifascist, anti-authoritarian, left-wing
> small-L libertarian, i.e. "ansoc," anarcho-socialist. I believe the
> only valid functions of government are regulation of commerce and
> industry, and protecting the general public from psychotic losers like
> this.

Who is protecting Beth Bultman, your daughter or your other mooching
victims from you?

> Unfortunately we don't live in that world. Indeed, to a certain point
> they even have "the right" to say what they want. Of course that
> right ends firmly at slander, but that doesn't really matter when you
> can't even canonically identify who's involved, now does it? What am
> I gonna do, sue a sockpuppet?
>
> These people want to see me ended because they can't live up to who I
> am at my worst, and they don't even want you to see me at my best.
> That's why there are 160 conversations about me in six months, in a
> newsgroup I haven't given serious thought in nearly twenty years.

It's because you'rew a piece of shit, John.

> A few months ago, one of the primary actors, who I believe is in a
> major decompensation event after I finally told them to get the hell
> out of my world and stay out, started feeding a random FB dick I was
> arguing with this information, and in doing so provided me with
> sufficient evidence to be 99.8% certain who that person was - and I'd
> suspected them for a very long time, suspicions that were also
> confirmed by various behavioral tics and such in our interactions over
> time. Then when I found all this a couple of days ago, it got to
> 99.9.

Sherlock John is going to bust this case wide open!

> There's really only a few people in the world who have both the
> technical know-how and the motivation to do this to me. I can think
> of exactly two by name...and I'm beginning to suspect that much of the
> alleged involvement of Dink in all of this is also a smokescreen
> because he's such a moron it's easy to think he'd be responsible. And
> I think he's got his hands in, because he's a psycho loser and we've
> all known that for twenty-five years, but frankly he appears to have
> enough going on in his life to simply not have this much free time on
> his hands, and if he offered to just let it all drop and walk
> away...well, I'd be doing the same thing I have been, which is
> forgetting about him (at least until a "friend" shows up pretending to
> be him and brings it up again).

Woo-hoo! alex is off the hook! Kick his ass, Alex!
Trying to hook up with a stripper isn't exactly abstaining from
relationships. You failed again, John.

> But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done
> everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to
> improving the world around me, including helping those who are still
> caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope;
> to show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy
> of life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and
> they can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've
> learned to do. There's nothing else I *can* do in most cases short of
> hara-kiri, and while I live with major depressive disorder and there's
> not a day that goes by that I don't think of killing myself at least
> once, it's just thoughts. I'm not going to do that, because I still
> have good work to do in this world, and I'm not going to let anyone,
> including myself, stop me from doing it.
>
> And that, more than anything else, is why a couple of badly broken,
> deranged, and psychotic narcissists have been up my ass like a
> colonoscopy for twenty years.
>
> Anyone who is buying in to this is being played for a patsy by a
> psycho, and the psycho isn't me.

Survey says...John is batshit!

> I don't hide. I don't sock up and pretend to be other people. I
> don't work back-channel and in the shadows, dealing in rumor and
> innuendo and faked screenshots and exploiting addiction and
> desperation and even just the petty venality of punch-down trolling to
> hurt people who I know I have no valid reason to hurt.
>
> I'm no prince, no messiah, no "great good man." I've done some pretty
> rotten things in my life, and I'm doing what I can to balance that.

It's a bit late for your daughter, John.

> These people don't want that to happen, because if it does then
> they're left with nothing but to look at their own failure to address
> their own issues and know that the failure is indeed their own.
>
> Don't get sucked in to it. You're being used and manipulated by at
> least one, probably two, and maybe several psychotic narcissists who
> have been caught in a feedback loop of blaming me for their problems
> for over half their lives.

Oh dear, the other narcissists are picking on John! That's just what I'd
expect a psychotic narcissist to say.

> Now I'm leaving again, and I don't intend to be back. Stop falling
> for this "oh it's JH in a sock" shit. It isn't. If I've got
> something to say, I'll say it loud and clear with my own face and
> voice, just as I always have.

Aha! The tear-filled exit! This probably is John after all.

> I hope those of you who have spent half your lives up my ass manage to
> get the help you so clearly and desperately need.

Project more, John. The trolls demand it.

> PS: I'm not naming the "friend" because I'm not going to give them
> anything to hang their own lawsuit on, just as I didn't interfere in
> their abusive relationships because if I did, they'd blame me for
> those relationships collapsing. You all know who I mean.

No, name names. It'll be fun! It's not like you have anything someone
could sue you for.

Skeeter

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If he would stick around I might do a pay pal. I never had the honor of
meeting him until now.

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Skeeter <Skeet...@proton.me> wrote in
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You own all the best kooks. If only you were as evil as Alex Cain, it
would be really scary. Maybe you should take on a few dozen henchpeople
to see if that helps.

Skeeter

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In article <XnsB040C55FC71...@135.181.20.170>, Chadweasel274
I'm retired. I just like playing rope a dope with them.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Skeeter <Skeet...@proton.me> wrote in
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John brings his own rope. Very convenient.

Family Guy

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It's just a damn shame that he never uses it.

Creon

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT), John Henry wrote:

> But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done
> everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to
> improving the world around me, including helping those who are still
> caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope; to
> show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy of
> life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and they
> can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've learned to
> do.

Well, you _say_ you've learned it -- but man, I just mention one
video and suddenly your life is the freakin' French Connection. 🙄️

All I know is I see these multiple people in a venue describing someone
in pain. Maybe they're wrong. Heck, maybe you're a troll
cooked up by Janithor.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. I found a video, and I was going to post
it anyway, but realized there's at least one person reading this froup
that could really use it, as well as the associated videos.

BTW, sometimes it's found that a general attitude shared by society
is viewed by those that don't adhere to it as somehow "all those people
who agree with each other are in cahoots."

Finally, I'll be pedantic for a second: "slander" is verbal defamation.
When it's written, it's called "libel". And if you _really_ haven't
been reading this group -- well, that was fortuitous that you happened
by when that video link was front-and-center.

Did you look at it? It might help you get rid of some of
the self-judgments, which can come from an internal
critic being wound up very tight. Or help others with a
similar malady, should you come across anyone who might
need that help.

But it sounds like you're taking care of yourself, and that's
good to hear. I'm not sure if it's this video or another, but
Heidi talks about how the resulting attachment style can leave
one with alternating grandiose ideas about themselves, followed
by abject disgust with oneself. For sake of discussion, I'll
refer to that as "ego-whiplash":

Are you suffering from this syndrome?

--
-c

Creon

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 20:04:30 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:

> I prefer to save my compassion and charity for those that need and
> appreciate it rather than take it for granted.

Agreed for the general case, but that
sets-up a baseline fallacy.

Some people will be grateful to you, and society, once they have
reached a fulfilling life; but while undergoing the transition to that
relative utopia, they may take your for granted. (Or worse:
they hate your guts.)

Does that make sense?

(This doesn't even address the compassion one feels for Alzheimer's
patients and their families, even if the patient has started to act
in a disagreeable way, maybe even abusive toward family members who come
to visit.)

--
-c

Kara Mac

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JOHN HENRY DEJONG Wait.....you actually applied for a....gasp......JOB?!?!?
JOHN HENRY DEJONG Disability- if you can't work, you would qualify. You don't JOHN HENRY DEJONG.
But sure....you are SO important and well known you have your very own conspiracy. Of course you do.
Meanwhile, JOHN HENRY DEJONG, you whine with jealousy over others with 500000 followers compared to your 500.
Time to realize you are not the savior you envision yourself to be JOHN HENRY DEJONG. Kudos you have managed to scrape by on other people's sympathy and money all this time though JOHN HENRY DEJONG . Seriously JOHN HENRY DEJONG.
JOHN HENRY DEJONG The fact you refuse to work (stop already with the can't- I have a 90 year old guy with a cane greeting me at Walmart) and haven't been literally on the street all these years is amazing.
JOHN HENRY DEJONG
JOHN HENRY DEJONG JOHN HENRY DEJONG JOHN HENRY DEJONG JOHN HENRY DEJONG

John Henry

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Eh. Hard saying from inside the bubble, but it's not inaccurate.

It's also super typical of bipolar II, which is one of my diagnoses.

Here's the thing that gets lost though: of all the people in this conversation, there's only one who's ever admitted they have been wrong or made bad decisions. Might want to keep that in mind as you observe.

John Henry

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Also, watch this behavior, as exhibited by one sockpuppet while I was typing:


de·com·pen·sa·tion
noun
Psychiatry
the failure to generate effective psychological coping mechanisms in response to stress, resulting in personality disturbance or disintegration, especially that which causes relapse in schizophrenia.

Skeeter

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In article <12e61e54-f9ac-44be...@googlegroups.com>,
johnhenry...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-4, Creon wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT), John Henry wrote:
> >
> > > But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done
> > > everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to
> > > improving the world around me, including helping those who are still
> > > caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope; to
> > > show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy of
> > > life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and they
> > > can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've learned to
> > > do.
> > Well, you _say_ you've learned it -- but man, I just mention one
> > video and suddenly your life is the freakin' French Connection. ??
Thanks for the mention in your rant.

Family Guy

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Jul 14, 2023, 3:15:14 PM7/14/23
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Weren't you "leaving" this newsgroup for the 1000th time?

Also, heya fuckface. Rant any more about me on social media lately?
Or has the halo over your head prevented you from accessing your computer?


>
> It's also super typical of bipolar II, which is one of my diagnoses.


I diagnose you with being a paranoid douchebag with narcissism and delusional thinking.

>
> Here's the thing that gets lost though: of all the people in this conversation, there's only one who's ever admitted they have been wrong or made bad decisions. Might want to keep that in mind as you observe.

Here's the thing that gets lost though: Not everyone wants to be like you, you stupid asshole.
Take the bag of pity you carry around and put it over your head. Make sure it's plastic, first.

Family Guy

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Jul 14, 2023, 3:15:48 PM7/14/23
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Look, asshole.
You can try to justify all you want.
The fact of the matter is, no one really gives a shit, and everything you blab about or write comes across as fucking crazy.

Family Guy

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Jul 14, 2023, 3:16:03 PM7/14/23
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He mentioned me more than you. Ha, ha! You lose!

Janithor

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Jul 14, 2023, 3:17:26 PM7/14/23
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x-no-archive: yes
Feel the love.

Kara Mac

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On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4, John Henry wrote:

Oh, John-Boy...I mean JOHN HENRY DEJONG (almost forgot the ultimate goal to suck google searches in)
You and I both know every freaking page you have would look like this one if you didn't dlete and block non stop. You see it here because you can't control here. Am I wrong??
I dare you to prove it by opening your "work" up to honest uncensored feedback.
What you have now is a small group of kindhearted souls falling for your bullshit. You are not getting money not because anyone is stopping you but because those currently enabling you are rare. They seem to be too kind or not too smart, the av-er-age bear sees you clearly. Hence most will not be sending you shit.

Skeeter

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In article <9fa3843d-00c5-4260...@googlegroups.com>,
madeforz...@yahoo.com says...
I never had the honor. This is the first time I even chatted with the
fella.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote in news:6qfsM.29417$e0D4....@fx06.iad:

> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 20:04:30 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274 wrote:
>
>> I prefer to save my compassion and charity for those that need and
>> appreciate it rather than take it for granted.
>
> Agreed for the general case, but that
> sets-up a baseline fallacy.

I stated a preference, not a general rule. In any case, the financial
aspects of my charity are somewhat limited and can only go so far. So
it's essentially triage towards efforts that yield a visible result or
can benefit a large number potentially. John loses every time from that
aspect, you're flushing money down the shitter when sending it to his
decades-long mooch-a-thon.

Compassion, other than the financial limits, isn't all that much
different but is a quality that is also more constrained by time and
willingness. John fails again and not in a small way. He's not trying to
better himself, he's perfectly happy to have everyone else support him
and otherwise selling himself as a martyr.

John has never passed the smell test for either. His actions consist of
running his mouth and little else and for that he expects people to
finance his lifestyle and ego trips.

Let's not even get into the excuses for not supporting himself. That's
an unending stream of unproven claims and clumsy excuses dating back
decades.

> Some people will be grateful to you, and society, once they have
> reached a fulfilling life; but while undergoing the transition to that
> relative utopia, they may take your for granted. (Or worse:
> they hate your guts.)
>
> Does that make sense?

Of course it does. Helping out entitled ingrates like John is the
perfect example. No amount of money will ever be enough. Get him food
and shelter? he wants a car. He wants a computer. Then he wants a
studio. He basically wants a free ride and no strings. This is why the
turnover rate of his "supporters" remains ridiculously high.

But he's also proud of saying that your contributions don't buy any
loyalty or influence from his end. He wants it both ways. Send money and
expect nothing except that he'll continue his ego trip and talk at you
more. He frequently deletes history when it's gone overboard and he
starts tearing into the people who are stupid enough to listen to him.

He will also censor any criticism if he can. That's a huge part of the
reasons he's been staying away from here and other media where he can't
control the conversation.

Finally, what he's got to say is simply not worth whatever he asks, even
if it's nothing. He's a waste of time to take seriously. If you need
this guy to validate your beliefs you should reevaluate your needs.

However, John is pure comedy gold once you understand he's a third-rate
mooch, fourth-rate grifter and and second-rate narcissist. John cannot
understand why people laugh at him and mock him.

> (This doesn't even address the compassion one feels for Alzheimer's
> patients and their families, even if the patient has started to act
> in a disagreeable way, maybe even abusive toward family members who
> come to visit.)

He's pretty much done that to his sheep, just without visible evidence
of Alzheimers.

Watch before it's pulled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bn7QONwHaI&t=55s

He even turns on people who fed and housed him in the first 10 minutes.

So send John money and watch it pissed away.

Or send it here: https://ofsds.org/donate

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Family Guy <madeforz...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:c8a48533-8d98-40f0...@googlegroups.com:

> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 2:33:05 PM UTC-4, John Henry wrote:
>> On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 1:01:15 PM UTC-4, Creon wrote:
>> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT), John Henry wrote:
>> >
>> > > But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've
>> > > done
>
>> > > everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to
>> > > improving the world around me, including helping those who are
>> > > still
>
>> > > caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and
>> > > hope;
> to
>> > > show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't
>> > > worthy of
>
>> > > life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and
>> > > they
>
>> > > can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've
>> > > learned
> to
>> > > do.
>> > Well, you _say_ you've learned it -- but man, I just mention one
>> > video and suddenly your life is the freakin' French Connection. �Ÿ
> ��️
I'm betting it's the tall pedestal he alone inhabits that he uses to
look down on everyone else.

>> It's also super typical of bipolar II, which is one of my diagnoses.
>
>
> I diagnose you with being a paranoid douchebag with narcissism and
> delusional thinking.

Don't forget the weapons grade sense of entitlement that's only balanced
out by a lack of self awareness.

>> Here's the thing that gets lost though: of all the people in this
>> convers
> ation, there's only one who's ever admitted they have been wrong or
> made bad decisions. Might want to keep that in mind as you observe.
>
> Here's the thing that gets lost though: Not everyone wants to be like
> you, you stupid asshole. Take the bag of pity you carry around and put
> it over your head. Make sure it's plastic, first.

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and apply as a henchcritter.

Kara Mac

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Watch what? This is you more than anyone.

%

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do you have streptakisskiss

%

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no one comes to visit

Mark Raslin (w/Ancient Psychoses)

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> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 10:05:26 AM UTC-4, Davey Zimmerman
> #274 wrote:
>> Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote in
>> news:tiMrM.197045$edH5....@fx11.iad:
>> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 02:37:57 -0000 (UTC), Davey Zimmerman #274
>> > wrote:
>
>> >
>> >> "Checkmate <moderat...@baseball.bat>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>
>> >> wrote in news:MPG.3f18dc08...@usnews.blocknews.net:
>> >>
>> >>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>> >>> posts
>
>> >>> by Checkmate.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:51:29 GMT, Creon had the audacity to say
>> >>> the
>
>> >>> following:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
> But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done
> everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to
> improving the world around me, including helping those who are still
> caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope;
> to show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy
> of life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and
> they can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've
lol

Taro Tsujimoto

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Jul 18, 2023, 10:56:19 PM7/18/23
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John Henry <johnhenry...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current
> roommate before anyone even knew I was living here. There is a
> very slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now
> is partially compromised

There is a very good chance that the PC owned by John Henry DeJong is
compromised or infected because of his own willingness to seek out
questionable material in the dark corners of the surface web and
beyond.

]v[etaphoid

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Are you regretting your many years of friendship and cohabitation?

Kara Mac

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Today JOHN HENRY DEJONG spouts off about gas lighting, and narcissists trying to manipulate you.
As he goes on about why you should go to work but send him your hard earned money because he is too busy to work and is so much smarter than you and you should help him save humanity!!!
Who is the gas lighting narcissist again?

He also asks for advice on why his "fundraising" only works when its an emergency. But blocks comments so how many can really reply?
Here ya go JOHN HENRY DEJONG- the reason is people are generally kind. They dive in when you panic and cry. What you insist is "work", isn't. No one is buying those ridiculous self involved tirades. They are not paying you for it because it is shit, and is pretty much the same thing as the guy who runs out and cleans my windshield I never asked for and then demands money for it. At least that guy only asks for a couple bucks (vs maybe...half a billion?!?) and is outside actually exerting some effort.

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Kara Mac <karamcna...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:964f8929-e722-4006...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:32:44 AM UTC-4, ]v[etaphoid wrote:
>> Taro Tsujimoto <tsuj...@sabres.com> wrote:
>> > John Henry <johnhenry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current
>> >> roommate before anyone even knew I was living here. There is a
>> >> very slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now
>> >> is partially compromised
>> >
>> > There is a very good chance that the PC owned by John Henry DeJong
>> > is compromised or infected because of his own willingness to seek
>> > out questionable material in the dark corners of the surface web
>> > and beyond.
>> >
>> Are you regretting your many years of friendship and cohabitation?
>
> Today JOHN HENRY DEJONG spouts off about gas lighting, and narcissists
> trying to manipulate you.

The remorseless mooch known as JOHN HENRY DEJONG didn't mention
projection only because he didn't want to be seen as a complete
hypocrite.

> As he goes on about why you should go to work but send him your hard
> earned money because he is too busy to work and is so much smarter
> than you and you should help him save humanity!!! Who is the gas
> lighting narcissist again?

For the gaslighting piece, it depends on the number of people who fall
for his decades old and weak sob stories. There's rarely a cure for his
type of narcissism, even with a self-professed 150+ IQ, he can't see it.

> He also asks for advice on why his "fundraising" only works when its
> an emergency. But blocks comments so how many can really reply? Here
> ya go JOHN HENRY DEJONG- the reason is people are generally kind. They
> dive in when you panic and cry. What you insist is "work", isn't. No
> one is buying those ridiculous self involved tirades. They are not
> paying you for it because it is shit, and is pretty much the same
> thing as the guy who runs out and cleans my windshield I never asked
> for and then demands money for it. At least that guy only asks for a
> couple bucks (vs maybe...half a billion?!?) and is outside actually
> exerting some effort.

We've all seen what happens when JOHN HENRY DEJONG has to live off the
quality of his "content" and amount of effort he puts in.

Oh, the guy who cleans windshields? I don't begrudge him the money. He
gives you some effort and a visible result.

PS: You want serious content?

https://twitter.com/JuliusGoat
https://armoxon.substack.com/

Davey Zimmerman #274

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Taro Tsujimoto <tsuj...@sabres.com> wrote in
news:u97jcf$3123s$1...@paganini.bofh.team:
Even some crapware JOHN HENRY DEJONG loaded on his computer from porn
sites isn't necessary to compromise himself. Though I have little doubt
that's it's happened.

Just for shits and giggles I asked a contact to look JOHN HENRY DEJONG
up and in extremely general terms with no specifics tell me what he
found on some of less savory parts of the web. The verdict: JOHN HENRY
DEJONG is one depraved individual.

The best quote: "I feel like taking twenty showers after looking at that
scuzzbucket."

The problem with lookups like that is that it trips a few flags and it's
entirely possible someone from a three letter acronym is looking into
why someone would be looking at a destitute scumbag like JOHN HENRY
DEJONG.

All that shit JOHN HENRY DEJONG spouts about ethics? Bushwa.
All that shit about JOHN HENRY DEJONG making up for his past? GTFO.

JOHN HENRY DEJONG doesn't really understand how many fingerprints he's
left. And that's from a cursory check. I'm sure there's a lot more
things someone could find if they ask in the right places.

I just assumed JOHN HENRY DEJONG was paranoid because he's a fucking
nutcase. I've discovered that it's also probably because he really
should be. Sleep well, mooch. That clock is ticking.

Family Guy

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JOHN HENRY DEJONG aka JOHN HENRY is not exactly the brightest bulb on the shelf, more of a five-watt.
But you should still give him money, because he is fighting those enemies!
Who the fuck they are, no one but him knows, but he's fighting them, damn it!

Taro Tsujimoto

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Jul 19, 2023, 5:52:57 PM7/19/23
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Since John Henry's post as Valentine Smith shows that he has a Linux
system now, it should be noted that Linux is a popular choice for
people who want to use TOR to search out very unsavory content.

But the XPN news program John Henry DeJong used to post that message
hasn't been part of Ubuntu since version 18.04, which is now
unsupported. That means the TOR software he's probably running on
that system is also old and unsupported. It would be a shame for him
to walk right into a DHS honeypot of scum just because he wanted to
fap to teenage girls.

]v[etaphoid Inc.

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> soliciting nudes from my then-underage daughter. They've contacted
> employers, friends, they even called my current roommate before anyone
> even knew I was living here. There is a very slim but non-zero
How do you respond to this, Chad?

Davey Zimmerman #274

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]v[etaphoid Inc. <m...@mormonia.com> wrote in
]news:un64a6$3kpnd$1...@dont-email.me:
That's "Cousin Davey Zimmerman, sir" to you.

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