Oh I hope this is the "real" JHD and not some clown impersonating him. If it is "him", then HI, JO-JO! REMEMBER ME? THE BOOGEYMAN? The dude who didn't but you said did get you shitcanned from Lyft for driving with your penis out?
>This person - who is almost certainly not Dave Zimmerman, as I can't recall a single time Dave and I ever had hostility nor can I think of any reason he'd be involved;
Oh, I'm kinda sorta pretty sure that it's him. Mostly because he does such a good job pointing out that you are a self-centered, clueless asshole.
>the last I heard anything about him he'd supposedly moved to Australia or something after a woman in the UK he was trying to hook up with dumped him - has spent the last twenty-five years or so hiding behind sockpuppets and recruiting petit trolls and harassers to do his dirty work for him, while hiding behind an army of sockpuppets and fake names and leveraging the various helpful aspects of different websites and social media networks to conceal his identity.
Punctuation is your friend. Also sounds like what your buddy Chadlee "Lee" Anvil Bryant does and has done.
Well. Except the recruiting part. Since nobody wants to 'work' for him and he so easily comes across as an even bigger douche than you.
>They know I tend to REALLY piss off a small set of folks, and they feed those folks and encourage them to escalate and propagate all the BS, so as to ensure nobody can be held directly responsible for any of it.
Hey John, have you met my friend Mr. Para Noya? He's from Nepal. Real nice guy. Once climbed half of Mount Everest.
>
> This is the first time I've posted to this group since 2018.
Ooo! Ooo! Are we going to get another video of John Henry v. computer monitor? I always wanted to see a rematch!
>The only reason I'm here now is because
...you are a self-centered, narcissistic, bullshitting loser who was probably tipped off by your pal "Lee." Either that or you have been lurking for weeks or months.
>I googled my name on a whim and realized that this is a huge part of the reason I can't get a job at all
Actually, the "huge part" is because you refuse to fucking find one.
You come up with some bullshit excuse every single time the subject is breeched -- which is mostly by you.
YOU think yourself as some sort of savior-like, one-man-FOX-news-channel and that everyone should give you money so you don't have to actually work.
YOU try to pass yourself off as some sort of untouchable, god-like figure who knows it all but is never listened to by anyone.
I guess what I am trying to say is, you are SOL because of, well, yourself.
>beyond schtupping canned goods at a grocery store or digging ditches, neither of which I'm physically able to do anymore due to various wear and tear related to aging - I'm fifty-two.
>
I'm 47 and if I had to do it, I would do either of those jobs. I have had servers (waiters) who have been in their 60s and 70s. You are full of shit trying to blame your laziness on age.
> When I stopped by here at the end of 2018 - at the encouragement of a "friend" -
Why not just say his name? Chadlee Anvil Bryant, now "Lee" Bryant attempted to restart his "life" because his real full name is all over the Internet screaming his insanity & psychosis..
>I was here for half an hour, took one look at the place, and went "no fuckin' way,
Coward.
>the few people left here are completely out of their tree, fuck. all. this."
You do realize that your (ahem) "friend" was one of those 'completely out of their tree.'?
>That was after having left back in 2005 because I founded a non-profit theater group and didn't want this person and their fellow travelers hassling a bunch of kids.
>
You? Founding a non-profit theater group? That's about as believable as Michael Jackson founding a daycare center.
> I've never made a secret of my "secrets." I was strung out on coke for a dozen years, up until '99.
Oh I think it went a little past 1999, John....
>I was a physically abusive boyfriend and father;
So this is why your daughter doesn't give a shit about you right now.
>the latter debatable even by current standards (this is a country that loves corporal punishment!), and I've been very open about that in public in the hope that by doing so I could encourage others suffering from similar mental health issues to get help and get better.
You and mental health need a little time apart, Jo-Jo.
>
> This person - whose identity I don't know with certainty, but it's one of two, to 95%CI - has been playing this game for at least two decades.
Ooo! Ooo! Is one of them me? Teacher please call on me! I'm ever so smart!
By the way. Can't be a "person" if you think it is more than one.
> They've contacted my family multiple times; one of them spent a few years soliciting nudes from my then-underage daughter.
But did she send them?
>They've contacted employers, friends, they even called my current roommate before anyone even knew I was living here.
Um...how is that even possible, John?
See, statements like THAT are why people point out your paranoia and insanity.
>There is a very slim but non-zero possibility that the computer I'm using now is partially compromised;
Mr. Para Noya had to go back to Nepal, John. But he sends greetings from his friend, Ima Kray Z. Parson.
>I genuinely have no idea how they even knew where I was, let alone who I was with, as the two of us go quite far back and have mutual acquaintances, and we both were very much not interested in any of them (including members of my family) know of the connection, but they were in my roommate's ear within a week or so of my moving in here.
But you just said that it was BEFORE you moved there.
>
> There are at least two people involved here who are pathologically obsessed with me.
Oh, boy! Narcissism! Well, it's a change from paranoia, at least.
> One of them has encouraged the other to believe that I'm posting here under all these sockpuppets and playing all these games but the truth is I've been trying to shake the stink of this dump out of my hair for basically two decades now.
DumpSTER. DumpSTER, John. You know--the one you lost the fight against via the monitor?
>
> I suspect the biggest problem is
Well, let's be honest...you have so many of them that to find one as 'biggest' isn't exactly easy.
Can we start with your delusional narcissism, and then move on to your paranoia, self-centered behavioral bullshit and begging?
>that many years ago I ended up jaw-flapping my way into the wrestling business where I had a great time and met some famous people,
I remember you claiming to have done coke with the Hardy Boys. Or was that the Brady Bunch?
>and they wanted that but didn't have any of the necessary skills or attributes to make it happen. And I walked away. I've been focused mostly on political activism and writing since then, and haven't looked back.
Jo-Jo you never look back. It's one of your "problems." You really should tape a mirror to yourself.
>
> I had believed that my increasing difficulty in finding any job that involves so much as a cursory background check was related to that activity -
...A stupid move.
> leftist anti-capitalist anti-corporate authoritarian with a personality and solid stage presence, if I'm an employer I can understand how I wouldn't hire that guy he's gonna come in and unionize my shop and be a rabble-rouser, turn us in to OSHA for cutting corners or whatever.
Where in the fuck are you applying?
>Hell, he's "ANTIFA," and "we all know" they're "terrorists." Cost of doing business; if you're gonna fight city hall, you gotta expect city hall's gonna fight back.
You couldn't "fight city hall" if you were given boxing lessons by Mike Tyson.
> I'm fighting plutocracy and oligarchy and the rise of American fascism and ultimately capitalism itself
No. No, you aren't.
>- it's an unsustainable poison in our culture and world, compromising integrity and creating conflict of interest in everything it touches including health care, education, media, and criminal justice - and it stands to reason that those who are participating in capitalism would not want to help fund that because they see it as a threat to their way of life (which it is, because collectively our way of life is shit and has to change or we're just not gonna last much longer). So I kind of just went 'eh,' took the hit, kept up my work, and have relied on crowdfunding and what little menial labor work I could find to survive.
"People didn't give me money because they stupid."
>
> A couple of days ago, on a whim, I googled my full name, and found this ungodly shitpile with my name all over it, stretching back decades.
...Guess whose fault that is?
>It's not unintentional that my full name is used so frequently;
Well, John Henry DeJong, you could always change your name like your friend Chadlee Anvil Bryant did.
> the entire point of that is to do precisely what has been done, which is to ensure that anyone googling me runs smack into a litany of supposed offenses ranging from farting in church to grand larceny to child abuse to DUI. It shows up before anything, including my own websites.
I am agog and aghast.
>
> This is why I've spent the last fifteen years or so having great interviews and feeling like I probably had a gig,
If you have been trying to "have a gig" for fifteen years, perhaps it is time you tried something else.
>only to get that classic phone call of Jim Crow and other sub-surface discrimination: "sorry, we found another candidate."
um.....er.....ahhh....I can't figure out if you are being racist here, trying to blame your lack of employment ON something related to racism, being sarcastic or just...being whatever the hell are you being.
> This is why I don't have a gig now with someone like Progress Michigan or the ACLU or the campaigns of progressive candidates like Sanders or Tlaib.
No. You don't have a "gig" with those because you lack qualifications, have a shitty resume, a piss poor personal attitude and you have almost no social skills in existence.
>
> In the main these people can't stand me because they wish they had the spine to BE me,
"They didn't hire me because they didn't like me and because they wanted to BE me!"
If your narcissism was screaming any louder, someone would call the police.
> to face all the crap that's been piled on and survive and keep fighting, because they know they wouldn't be able to.
"I DIDN'T WANT YOUR DUMB OLD STUPID JOB ANYWAY!"
>This is why one of them encouraged me to have myself committed -
Er, I'm pretty sure there were more reasons than one for someone to encourage you to commit yourself to a mental hospital.
> all in "friendship" and "concern" of course - because they've been 5150'd multiple times and they're pissed that I haven't. There are other things that I'm not going to go into detail about here and now, for reasons of my own...but those reasons aren't to hide anything about myself beyond what I'm doing right now aside from writing this message.
Ah. The old troll / Chadlee trick, "I know a lot but I won't tell you" routine.
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> You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid,"
There is no "if" in that sentence, John.
>there have been 160+ conversations in this group about me *this year*.
Because people are mocking you, not praising you.
You seem to enjoy publicly acting stupid.
>You should probably ask yourself why, if I'm so "paranoid,"
Again. No "if."
> these people know so much about me and my life - I've never mentioned my roommate's name in public, and neither has she.
>
But now you give a clue that it is a female.
> It started off, some 25+ years ago, being a bunch of dumbasses playing wrassler on the internet, cutting stupid promos and pretending to be all that stuff for giggles.
Does that include your infamous "posedown," or the time you posted a photo of your penis to prove you were getting oral sex from a prostitute?
>Then a few people started crossing lines, interfering with people's jobs (the first time it happened to me was in 1997 I think, at NCSU).
Ah yes, the infamous "John-thinks-he-is-untouchable" incident. Well. One of them, anyway.
Remember when you impersonated the webmaster of the Bellsouth website, in an attempt to get me TOSsed? You prick.
> Then when those targeted swung back and landed a few hits of their own, the psychos really lost it and escalated.
Interesting that you call yourself a psycho.
> As I said above, eventually it got to the point where it wasn't worth participating given the level of BS in unrelated life that it created, and I walked away.
More like stumbled away drunk.
>
> There's nothing a narcissist hates more than being ignored, and it appears at least two - possibly more, I have no way of knowing for sure, that's part of their game - narcissists have made me the focus of blame for their failed and miserable lives, and have worked quite a bit harder than I'd realized up until the last couple of days to ensure my life was just as failed and miserable as theirs
./...Something a narcissist would write.
>. Except unlike them, I don't have a trail of insecure but affluent women stretching back over the last three decades that I've stolen from and beat on and abused;
Only the last two decades.
>I stopped dating in March of 2001 for various reasons,
Bisexuality?
>all of them related to not wanting to get involved in a relationship again until I could do so in a healthy way and get my insecurities and fears and such under control. Unlike them, I admit I *have* a daughter. Unlike them, I haven't made up stories about joining the military to cover having my ass rubber-roomed.
Is that a swipe at Chadlee?
> Unlike them, I haven't made the last twenty years about making other people's lives miserable and hurting people because it's the only thing I know how to do.
>
Is that ANOTHER swipe at Chadlee?
> And unlike them, I'm not cross-posting all of this to every troll farm and harassment base etc. I can find in the hopes of recruiting them to join in on the harassment.
Is that a THIRD swipe at Chadlee?
>
> I haven't "reinvented myself," ever.
Let's face it. Even if you did, you'd never get a patent.
> I haven't even cut my hair in almost 15 years
Perhaps, oh, I don't know...this could be one of the reasons you keep getting turned down for jobs?
> and other than a lot of gray and some extra pounds look exactly like I did when I was 20.
You look about as much as you did at 20 as Chadlee does when he was an infant.
Well, scratch that. Chadlee was a fat turd even then.
>Other than pissing around on Usenet back in the mid-late 90s and early 2000s (as above), I've never tried to hide my identity or pretend to be anyone else but who I am.
Except
webm...@bellsouth.net
> I haven't "deleted my work" or tried to "hide" thing
Then explain your latest "disappearance" on YouTube and Facebook, among other platforms.
> - everything I've ever put on the web is readily available through the wayback machine.
Um. Wayback does what it does for a reason.
You don't and can't say you haven't "disappeared: just because wayback has it.
> That said, I do tend to block and ban harassers and the kinds of wet-fart personalities who do psycho shit like posting lie after lie after lie to comment sections on my social media pages and then claim I'm "hiding something" when I boot them.
Because booting them and ignoring their remarks is something sane people do.
>
> That's part of their problem, you see - they hide behind technology and arcane systems that are easy to spoof and hide your identity on, and that most people including the vast majority of law enforcement don't understand.
You haven't gone to the cops since that time you thought birds were listening to your phone conversations.
> I just got off the phone with MIAG, and I had to explain to them what USENET is. Their answer is "well just have your lawyer (hah!) contact google and delete the messages." The girl on the phone at the FBI was audibly eyerolling as soon as I said "internet."
I believed you called the FBI as much as I believe you don't have an overflowing toilet.
>
> Understand that *I am an antifascist, anti-authoritarian, left-wing small-L libertarian, i.e. "ansoc," anarcho-socialist. I believe the only valid functions of government are regulation of commerce and industry, and protecting the general public from psychotic losers like this.
Understand you *are* crazy, insane, narcissistic, self-absorbed.
>
> Unfortunately we don't live in that world. Indeed, to a certain point they even have "the right" to say what they want.
"To a certain point?"
> Of course that right ends firmly at slander, but that doesn't really matter when you can't even canonically identify who's involved, now does it? What am I gonna do, sue a sockpuppet?
>
I can see you doing that, but it being a literal sock with buttons for eyes.
> These people want to see me ended
People want to see you "ended" because you are a dumbass, John, and they are sick of your shit.
>because they can't live up to who I am at my worst, and they don't even want you to see me at my best. That's why there are 160 conversations about me in six months, in a newsgroup I haven't given serious thought in nearly twenty years.
Again. Mocking.
>
> A few months ago, one of the primary actors, who I believe is in a major decompensation event after I finally told them to get the hell out of my world and stay out, started feeding a random FB dick I was arguing with this information, and in doing so provided me with sufficient evidence to be 99.8% certain who that person was - and I'd suspected them for a very long time, suspicions that were also confirmed by various behavioral tics and such in our interactions over time. Then when I found all this a couple of days ago, it got to 99.9.
>
Ooo! Ooo! Was it me again? Please say it was me!
> There's really only a few people in the world who have both the technical know-how and the motivation to do this to me.
So my other friend had to go - business meeting or something - but I have another friend, Ura Nuttur, from Tibet. Shake hands, Jo-Jo.
>I can think of exactly two by name...and I'm beginning to suspect that much of the alleged involvement of Dink in all of this is also a smokescreen because he's such a moron it's easy to think he'd be responsible.
I LOVE YOU, YOU CRAZY DUCKED UP SON OF A BITCH.
> And I think he's got his hands in, because he's a psycho loser and we've all known that for twenty-five years, but frankly he appears to have enough going on in his life to simply not have this much free time on his hands, and if he offered to just let it all drop and walk away...well, I'd be doing the same thing I have been, which is forgetting about him (at least until a "friend" shows up pretending to be him and brings it up again).
Is that about me, or about someone else?
>
> But it's not all him, and I suspect he's been manipulated a bit by the other one...just like pretty much everybody dogpiling these threads has. Of course I can't "prove," because that's the point. To make me seem "paranoid" and "delusional" and maybe get frustrated enough to get my ass thrown in a rubber room like he did.
But you ARE paranoid and delusional, Jo-Jo.
>
> In the end, they hate my spirit because they're ashamed of themselves - far too ashamed to admit to anyone who they are or what they do, or to come out from behind the sockpuppets and fake accounts and AI-generated bullshit - and they see me being ashamed and owning it, knowing they don't have the guts to measure up to that, and since they can't rise to my level, all they have left is to drag me down to theirs...and it's literally driving them nuts that they can't.
You don't have a level to rise to. You are an imploded submersible on the RSPW ocean floor.
>
> I know what my sins and crimes are,
"Crimes?"
So...you called the FBI...knowing you were a criminal.
Yea. That makes sense.
>and I've been quite public about owning up to them - as you can clearly see. Have I posted a fourth-step inventory to the world? No. It's not necessary and it would only serve to open old wounds and possibly cause harm in the very act of trying to reduce or make amends for that harm. That's why the 9th step includes the caveat "...wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others." Sometimes it's not possible, sometimes the attempt would do further harm. There are plenty of such things that have been done to me, as well, and there won't be amends made for those. Some amends can't be made, some mistakes can't be un-made, and sometimes the only thing you can do is say "well, that sucked," and keep on moving forward and living your life.
The amount of Crazy in that statement is so thick you could use it as caulking.
>
> That's what I've been trying to do for twenty years, and these weirdos just will. not. let. go.
>
For 20 years you have been a loser, John.
> I've done everything I could to complete that step. I've made my amends to those I've harmed whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others; and I've changed my behavior to avoid harming anyone else - including flat-out avoiding any sort of physical relationship for 18 years. I've tried to help others. In some cases, that help was turned on me and shoved into my back like a blade, but that's gonna happen sometimes when you're trying to help people who are addicts and suffering with serious mental illness and dysfunction.
I loved it when the stripper kicked you in the groin and ran.
>
> But in the end I know who I am, I know what I've done, and I've done everything I could to right past wrongs and dedicate my life to improving the world around me, including helping those who are still caught up in that kind of behavior find pathways to sanity and hope; to show people who feel, as I once did, that they just weren't worthy of life to find their worth, to understand that they have value and they can make choices every day to not be that monster, like I've learned to do. There's nothing else I *can* do in most cases short of hara-kiri, and while I live with major depressive disorder and there's not a day that goes by that I don't think of killing myself at least once, it's just thoughts. I'm not going to do that, because I still have good work to do in this world, and I'm not going to let anyone, including myself, stop me from doing it.
YAY! I was wondering when we would get to a suicide threat! Took you damn near long enough!
>
> And that, more than anything else, is why a couple of badly broken, deranged, and psychotic narcissists have been up my ass like a colonoscopy for twenty years.
>
> Anyone who is buying in to this is being played for a patsy by a psycho, and the psycho isn't me.
Nobody buys into you. Mostly because your stock price is too low.
>
> I don't hide. I don't sock up and pretend to be other people.
Except
webm...@bellsouth.net
> I don't work back-channel and in the shadows, dealing in rumor and innuendo and faked screenshots and exploiting addiction and desperation and even just the petty venality of punch-down trolling to hurt people who I know I have no valid reason to hurt.
>
> I'm no prince, no messiah, no "great good man." I've done some pretty rotten things in my life, and I'm doing what I can to balance that.
Killing yourself would be a nice start.
>
> These people don't want that to happen, because if it does then they're left with nothing but to look at their own failure to address their own issues and know that the failure is indeed their own.
Narcissism is so thick on that statement you could use it to paint houses.
>
> Don't get sucked in to it. You're being used and manipulated by at least one, probably two, and maybe several psychotic narcissists who have been caught in a feedback loop of blaming me for their problems for over half their lives.
Well in their defense, you have been publicly bullshitting for a long time.
>
> Now I'm leaving again, and I don't intend to be back. Stop falling for this "oh it's JH in a sock" shit. It isn't. If I've got something to say, I'll say it loud and clear with my own face and voice, just as I always have.
THE BIG JOHN HENRY DEJONG IS WINNING AGAIN! HE IS THE GREETEST! NOW HE IS LEAVING FOR NO RAISIN!
>
> I hope those of you who have spent half your lives up my ass manage to get the help you so clearly and desperately need.
Kill yourself.
>
> PS: I'm not naming the "friend" because I'm not going to give them anything to hang their own lawsuit on, just as I didn't interfere in their abusive relationships because if I did, they'd blame me for those relationships collapsing. You all know who I mean.
>
"I' going to write a 2,000+ rant about someone, but won't tell you about who."
> Best,
> John Henry DeJong
> Kalamazoo, MI
Go fuck yoruself.