new RSPW FAQ version (part 1)
Severe Silvergun
my appreciation for all the newbies. I hope you will all find this helpful.
btw, because these questions are frequently asked, there will be no
copyright restrictions but my answers are MINE And RSPW's. Feel free to add
to the FAQ tho.
Q: What is RSPW?
A: RSPW is rec.sport.pro-wrestling, a usenet newsgroup that focuses on
discussion of pro wrestling. The first post on the group was in 1990 and
gets reposted endlessly by people who think they're the first one to find
it on google.
Q: Is there a lot of off-topic posting on RSPW?
A: Yes. Some people would say there is way too much.
Q: What is rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated?
A: Not too many people go there, but it's a posting place with moderators.
I imagine the posting is a lot more on-topic, but hopefully RSPW will
become more on-topic too.
Q: Can I post binaries files on RSPW?
A: You are not supposed to.
Q: What was the RSPW-ECW COnvention?
A: RSPW likes to imagine that it has flirted with legitimacy and meaning
within the pro wrestling community, a delusion that will recur throughout
this FAQ. Anyway, this was the closest RSPW came to having any impact in
the business whatsoever. A bunch of RSPW posters met, went to some ECW
shows in 1995, and got to talk to wrestlers. Because some jobbers from the
third-ranked national wrestling group (out of three) met with us nine years
ago, we assume we have a lot of impact still today.
Q: Can I join an e-fed on RSPW?
A: You will be rightfully mocked if you post anything about an e-fed to
RSPW.
Q: Who are Alex Cain, Chad Bryant, ViNNY, Krusty, John Henry, Satyr, Bob
Barnett, Pete Panaro, Hulka R. Maniac, ILOVEUWxx?
A: This is a trick question, as it is not frequently asked. Everyone on
RSPW spends way too much time there and knows who everyone else is.
Q: What is the relationship between RSPW and the Wrestling Business?
A: RSPW is a newsgroup devoted to the Wrestling Business. In return, the
Wrestling Business has no idea what RSPW is.
Q: Why do no wrestlers post to RSPW?
A: There are a lot of reasons, but for the most part, because RSPW is
unknown to them. Admittedly RSPW played some role in the past, and some
wrestlers did know about it. Those days are long past, and no one on RSPW
has played any part in anything having to do with the national wrestling
scene in a very long time.
Q: What about ECW?
A: The now-bankrupt ECW had some relationship with RSPW in the early 90s,
while it wasn't making money. Then it stopped having a relationship with
RSPW and still didn't make any money. Then, it went out of business. No
company currently in business has any relationship with RSPW.
Q: What about when Brian Pillman called Kevin Sullivan "bookerman"? Wasn't
this a code for RSPW?
A: No.
Q: What about Marc Mero?
A: Former WWF Intercontinental champion Marc Mero, who held the
Intercontinental championship during one of the many periods when it didn't
mean anything, posted occasional Christmas greetings to RSPW. This was a
good idea, as RSPW has fans devoted to wrestling, and why not spend five
minutes posting feel-good messages to them? The fact that the WWF does not
even bother to do this now is evidence that RSPW is meaningless. Anyway,
Marc Mero is long gone as a wrestler.
Q: Follow-up question - why doesn't WWF have someone devote five minutes to
posting these messages, like Marc Mero did?
A: As discussed above, they either don't know or don't care about RSPW.
Let's be generous and say that there are 100 regular readers on RSPW, most
of whom watch WWE anyway. Why waste the time to do this?
Q: Did people posting obnoxious messages to Marc Mero cause him to stop
posting?
A: It probably played some role, but he would've stopped eventually anyway
when he realized it was a stupid waste of time.
Q: Why does RSPW spend so much time debating Marc Mero, who was not exactly
central to the history of the business?
A: Because he posted there, and it pleases those in RSPW who hold some
glimmer of hope that RSPW isn't a waste of time. However, it is a waste of
time. Perhaps not worse than other wastes of time, mind you. But,
realistically, it probably is worse than other wastes of time.
Q: Did RSPW invent things that WWF went on to use?
A: Absolutely not.
Q: Is it certain that people in the business today are reading RSPW?
A: If you calculate the number of people who work for Vince McMahon and
Jerry Jarrett, and then consider that they have family members who probably
really like wrestling too, and that the business is filled with passionate
people who grew up loving wrestling...then, no, odds are still that no one
is bothering to read RSPW.
Q: Do any RSPWers participate in the wrestling business?
A: Technically, if you define "participate" in a certain way, and stretch
the boundaries of "the wrestling business", the answer to this is maybe.
Q: What is IAWTP?
A: I agree with this post, but you tricked me again. This is not frequently
asked.
Q: TLDR?
A: Too long didn't read...I can't wait until the witsters use it against
this very post because they're clever like that. (Unless no one replies,
which for the most part in RSPW is preferable)
Q: Who?
A: No one uses this anymore. Follow up: if you still do, you're a moron.
Second follow up: if you ever found this funny, you're also a moron.
Q: What should I do if I meet a wrestler?
A: Begin talking to them about RSPW. You see, they actually all read it,
and they will be so impressed that you post there that you will probably be
hired in the WWE.
Q: Should I call wrestlers by their real names?
A: Yes.
Q: And what do I do after I meet the wrestler?
A: MAKE SURE YOU POST ABOUT IT ON RSPW FOR WEEKS
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You just faced down the SEVERE SEVERE SILVERGUN
!!!!! posted by SEVERE SILVERGUN
Christopher Robin Zimmerman
Severe Silvergun <severes...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have taken over the somewhat mishandled and mismanaged RSPW FAQ, to show
>my appreciation for all the newbies. I hope you will all find this helpful.
>btw, because these questions are frequently asked, there will be no
>copyright restrictions but my answers are MINE And RSPW's. Feel free to add
>to the FAQ tho.
This isn't that bad, actually. Can I add it to the list of FAQs on rspw.org?
--
Christopher Robin Zimmerman | moderator, rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info
WWW: CRZ.net | AIM: SeeOurZed | co-moderator, rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated
--
©2004 CRZ[tm]
Christopher Robin Zimmerman
John Henry <j...@inSPAMBLOCKsurgent.orgy> wrote:
>Christopher Robin Zimmerman, you know who I am. But you don't...know
>why...I'm here.
>> In article <Xns950DC4...@130.133.1.4>,
>> Severe Silvergun <severes...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>I have taken over the somewhat mishandled and mismanaged RSPW FAQ, to
>>>show my appreciation for all the newbies. I hope you will all find
>>>this helpful. btw, because these questions are frequently asked, there
>>>will be no copyright restrictions but my answers are MINE And RSPW's.
>>>Feel free to add to the FAQ tho.
>>
>> This isn't that bad, actually. Can I add it to the list of FAQs on
>> rspw.org?
>
>the newsgroup...
You keep talking like that and I'm pulling the link to YOUR FAQ, pally!
Have you noticed that you keep responding to all my posts? DANCE JOHN DANCE
Oh, but don't get me wrong - I'm anxiously awaiting Mike's learned response
as well. DANCE MIKE DANCE
Anyway, I was talking to Severe Silvergun.
rspw.org got FIFTY-FIVE hits yesterday!
John, do you actually have a real beef with me above and beyond the fact that
I knew Chris Palacios' email address and you didn't? I mean, I KNOW which
bug is up Mike's ass, but I just want to be sure about yours...if you don't
mind.
Ca!nman
"John Henry" <j...@inSPAMBLOCKsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
news:Xns950EB1C9E1853jo...@216.168.3.44...
> Christopher Robin Zimmerman, you know who I am. But you don't...know
> why...I'm here.
>
> > Severe Silvergun <severes...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>I have taken over the somewhat mishandled and mismanaged RSPW FAQ, to
> >>show my appreciation for all the newbies. I hope you will all find
> >>this helpful. btw, because these questions are frequently asked, there
> >>will be no copyright restrictions but my answers are MINE And RSPW's.
> >>Feel free to add to the FAQ tho.
> >
> > This isn't that bad, actually. Can I add it to the list of FAQs on
> > rspw.org?
>
> the newsgroup...
Or your increasing disconnect between RSPW and reality...
Ca!nman
"Christopher Robin Zimmerman" <crzatrs...@spam.invalid> wrote in
message news:cb5l43$jr3$1...@bolt.sonic.net...
John has a real beef with you purchasing two-ply toilet paper and him having
to settle for torn out pages of "Hustler"
CptainDan
TLDR.
Ca!nman
"John Henry" <j...@inSPAMBLOCKsurgent.orgy> wrote in message
> Christopher Robin Zimmerman, you know who I am. But you don't...know
> why...I'm here.
>
> > fact that I knew Chris Palacios' email address and you didn't? I
> > mean, I KNOW which bug is up Mike's ass, but I just want to be sure
> > about yours...if you don't mind.
>
>
> Chris, my beef with you is your snide, condescending attitude toward the
> whole thing. Any time in the last half-decade I've stepped up and
> offered to do something, you've been right there to snide it down. It's
> like you're not even a wrestling fan, you're someone who thinks wrestling
> fans are a bunch of shut-ins, idiots, losers, and marks EXCEPT you and a
> handful of people that hang out together on web-based discussion forums
> and rarely (you), if ever (scooter, the dvdvr guys), read or participate
> in this group.
>
> There are a million different ways you could not be a dick, but you
> choose to be a dick regardless.
>
> I don't know why.
>
> Maybe I said something to you a million years ago that you didn't, like
> that I have since forgotten.
>
> Maybe because I offered to to take the RSPW Year-End Poll and put it on a
> website without first grovelling to you and begging your permission, as
> if rather than the RSPW poll, it's the CRZ poll.
>
> Could be because I helped build a nice, shiny new FAQ that is
> interesting, well-informed, fun to read and - perhaps most importantly
> IMO - it was written by people who actually read and post to RSPW on a
> regular basis...sometimes even about wrestling? Granted, it should be
> about ten times the size it is now, but we'll get there, one entry at a
> time.
>
> Is it because I like my stupid little website, and I'm pretty happy and
> proud of what I've done with it in the time it's been up, so I talk about
> it when I make changes?
>
> Maybe it's that I thought it would be worthwhile and interesting to make
> the '95 RSPWCon tape, but I couldn't afford to do it for free so I
> thought I'd ask for a fair compensation for the materials and my time in
> editing it down. It genuinely never occurred to me that it would be a
> problem. When it became one, I dropped it. I just thought it would be
> cool if people could see it, and it would make a good reference for the
> video editing work I was trying to do. That was a problem with the guy
> who made the original tape, which I didn't forsee happening.
>
> Is it possible that, had if Chris Palacios and I been able to make
> contact under better circumstances, I would have made the point that it
> might be possible to do without breaking Chris' agreement that he would
> be the only one allowed to make copies and distrubute it - indeed, it
> would have been nothing to contact Tom Misnik or Todd Gordon and at least
> find out whether you'd have to actually deal with Vince to get permission
> to distribute the tape? Because far as I can tell, Chris' camera work
> notwithstanding, if *anyone* would have a *legal* claim to order me not
> to sell them, it would be whoever owns all of ECWs trademarks and the
> tape library. Other than a few key spots - like the 'hi my name is blah
> blah bla and the first thing I remember about RSPW was that thread where
> so and so did the other thing' sequence that I planned to use as an
> introduction - it was almost all wrestling/wrestler footage, especially
> the stuff from Public Enemy. I think I left part of the bus getting
> stuck sequence in there, some other bits.
>
> The point is, from a strictly *legal* stanpoint, I'm not sure Chrispy has
> standing to *really* stop me from doing that DVD. I chose not to because
> he asked me not to, and explianed his reasons for asking me not to in a
> polite and reasonable fashion, not because I was worried about some legal
> threat.
>
> *shrug* Maybe. It honestly never occurred to me until I was writing
> this, and has nothing to do with the original question, save that I could
> also point out that it wasn't the first time you'd been a dick when you
> didn't have to be; you've been openly hostile to me since long before the
> DVD thing.
>
> You had the same, inexplicable, 'don't touch me!' reaction when I offered
> to port the year-end voting over to a web application and host it on my
> web space. My response to your prima donna routine then was precisely
> the same - *shrug*. What the fuck ever, dude, I just offered to help.
>
> I figure maybe it would be cool if people who actually participate in the
> group have a hand in doing things that are stamped with the RSPW name.
> For whatever reason, this seems to threaten some percieved power or
> control you think you have over this newsgroup. That wasn't my intent; I
> just wanted to do something cool. It wasn't about you in the least. Not
> that I don't *appreciate* your administration of the RSPW awards or what
> have you, I'm just saying, if you don't care enough about the place to
> bother reading/posting, maybe you'd like some help so you can go do
> whatever it is you do without having to stick around babysitting a bunch
> of people you hate participating in a discussion you don't care to be a
> part of.
>
> Obviously, you wouldn't.
>
> But, whatever it was that I did, way back when, it was surely
> unintentional. I don't recall ever having a reason to have a problem
> with you until you started acting like a dick to me, and other than when
> you dash in here to play your silly little drive-by flame games I don't
> think about you at all, and I didn't then.
>
> Sorry.
>
> Or hey, maybe I've got it all wrong, and you really *are* just a
> condescending prick who is barely a part of the group of people you claim
> right of endorsement for. Oddly enough I've seen you have perfectly
> reasonable conversations with other people, and I've even had several of
> them with you myself.
>
> But, for whatever reason, you made a decision one day that you were going
> to be an asshole to me. Why, I don't know, and I don't care. I just
> know that as long as you choose to continue along your path as my self-
> appointed nemesis, then that is what you choose to be.
>
> You will be treated accordingly.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> The only regret is in the whole thing is simply that you and others don't
> quite get that whole 'strength in numbers' concept. One of the reasons
> that a company like WWE can get away with the shit that they do is
> because the fans have no cohesive voice anymore - or more to the point,
> no *appearance* of a cohesive voice. Perhaps if we knew how many people
> were voting, we would have a better idea of how RSPW is used as a
> centralized gathering point for online fans, as well as what percentage
> of RSPW posters participate in the awards. This could even lead to ways
> of making improvements, raising the profile, gathering more people for a
> larger voice.
>
> Over three *thousand* wrestling fans visited the JBL petition in a week.
> A majority of them voted.
>
> That's only a small part of the online wrestling fan-base.
>
> IF some of those great minds who have parted ways with da muddahship over
> the last few years were to come back, even if just to touch base once in
> a while, have a little wrestling conversation, or hell, even throw in
> your two cents on political threads or something...
>
> Hell, if we could gather in all of the posters on all of the english-
> speaking wrestling boards, even if just to drop in a couple of times a
> month, this place would be enormous...and the year-end polls would have
> perhaps tens of thousands of voters, instead of hundreds. Even if we
> just *advertised* the polls and had a web mechanism for them, there could
> be thousands of participants.
>
> Add to that the prestige of being the oldest ongoing online wrestling
> awards, and you're talking about a real winner.
>
> But hey, what do I know, I'm just some guy with a beef. You do it the
> way you want. Better yet, use your 'official' site to link to an 'FAQ'
> that does nothing but run down the group with either completely erroneous
> information or information in which a kernel of truth is mangled beyond
> all relation to reality.
>
> That'll put asses in seats.
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You are a ranting loon.
Ca!nman
"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > [marathon rant snipped]...
>
>
> Damn... I was behind John Henry all the way through the first 9 or 10
> paragraphs, it IS kinda annoying that CRZ acts like some kind of trademark
> owner on "RSPW" even though he doesn't really participate here. However,
> John lost me pretty quick when he went off on that tangent about Rob
> Feintein vs. Bob Barrnett tape copying, or whatever the fuck the deal was
> with this grudge from 10 years ago.
>
>
> --
> Perkins
> I didn't make it all the way through the rant, but I THINK the point was
> that CRZ is a pedo who needs to cut ties with Ring of Honor.
>
It's a combination of John being piss-drunk and a schizophrenic moron and
CRZ having the site rspw.org.
Christopher Robin Zimmerman
John Henry <j...@inSPAMBLOCKsurgent.orgy> wrote:
>Christopher Robin Zimmerman, you know who I am. But you don't...know
>why...I'm here.
>
>> fact that I knew Chris Palacios' email address and you didn't? I
>> mean, I KNOW which bug is up Mike's ass, but I just want to be sure
>> about yours...if you don't mind.
>
I have learned my lesson.