So damned tired.
A long time ago, I tried to do what I could to keep RSPW a pretty decent
place to be. Some ways I tried were effective, some ways I tried were not
so effective.
At some point, a long, long time ago, I related, in the course of a
discussion about my beliefs regarding Karma, and balance, a pretty horrid,
pretty personal situation that happened a long time ago involving my
daughter.
Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have made quite the
sport of dragging her into any conversation they could, in a weak attempt to
get under my skin.
I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in high school, by the
time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
But it kept going.
And going.
And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these things - probably
including my original post, and hit the roof.
Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight on my
part to not realize that some people here would not be above using the rape
of a 3 year old child as a heat-seeking tool. but alas, I placed a little
too much faith in human nature, a little too much faith in human
intelligence, to think that anybody could actually *do* something like that.
I thought we were all human.
And now, because a few people - Stone, Alex Cain, Pete Panaro, flux, Bogus
Sting, Tony Gancarski, Raven3:16, Steven Signorelli, and others simply
cannot leave anything alone, here it is, three years later....and my
daughter has lost her father.
Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago. I realize that the sick
bastards among you will write this off as a sympathy ploy, or a work, or
whatever, but I am literally in tears as I write this, torn between taking
my own life for the good of my child and every poor soul that has been
touched by the blackened disease that is my life....and taking a few other
people out before I go. Right now, yeah, man, I'm pretty well out of my
mind.
But, I'm broke, I don't have the gas money to get to DC or Griffin GA or
NYC. There's nothing I can do except sit here and know, now, that there is
damn little humanity left in human beings.
I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done the one
thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my child.
Will I have the balls to finally do it? Will I have the intestinal
fortitude to finally cleanse the world of the sinister plague that is my
existence? Probably not. I lack the requisite character to take my own
life.
But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only child
because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand up for
what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain bullying, was
a *good* thing.
There is no honor in honestly. There is no dignity in being willing to
expose one's life as an example to others - be that example bad, or good.
There is no freedom here - there is only the capitulation to the forces of
whoever is the biggest asshole, whoever is willing to go the farthest to
destroy a man's REAL life...and the life of his innocent child.
I am completely destroyed. As a man, and as a human being. Whether I will
find the strength to end this for myself, or instead drift into a life as a
homeless stree person is an open question...but I can assure you all of one
thing:
You have seen the last of me.
[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* I sincerely hope, stone, that this brings you
pleasure
[22:26] *Stone-Golem* I have always enjoyed our flame wars
[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* and I sincerely hope, my friend, that you never
have to feel this
[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You are a worthy opponent
[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
I think that last line is about the only fitting epitaph for me, because god
knows I've never in my life done anything else worthy of praise. So for
those of you that have remained my friends, I ask you:
Take *that*, in rememberance of me.
I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent daughter, who's only
crime in life is having me for a father.
Goodbye.
--
*Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
yeah right youll be back in three weeks after you realize that without
our abuse youd have no life.
Darth Avenger
the last of the Dark Lord of the Sith Trolls
RSPWWCW European Champion
1999 Inductee RSPW Hall of Fame
former RSPWWCW World Heavyweight Champion
former RSPWWCW World Television Champion
former RSPWECW World Tag team Champion (with ph767 and Darth Bundy)
retired RSPW-G Head of Covert Operations
"Avenger is the heir to my throne"- Jayrock
"By the time we are done with you, you wont even be able to get a WEB-TV account!"
---- Chad Bryant, who lost his domain name due to his spamming me
"trust me, in a few weeks you will be in JAIL!!" -suicide victim Alex Cain (RIP), over one year ago.
"Oh I am going to have fun with your $$$ after my lawyer gets a hold of you next week!!!"
- drug addict John Henry DeJong, last year (right before he mysteriously was fired from NCSU)
"you do realize that you're in a lot of trouble, don't you?
Things may be slow to happen, but they will happen. Trust me , you'll be off the Internet in a week, I promise that"
- ex-con/45 year old wine tasting former NYU doctoral fellow Mike Palij, who's harrassment of me led to his censurship
by his peers at NYU.
www.theavenger.somewhere.net
http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Ramp/7713/
<snip big portion>
Hey, John, believe it or not, I take no pleasure
in you losing your kid. My argument with you
had nothing to do with your personal life or your
kid, but rather it was over whether or not you
were helping someone here propagate a heinous
work.
I've always enjoyed our flame wars. Of all those
who have stood against me, you were the most
gifted and passionate. I could shred you right
now with what you've written, but why bother?
It's not sporting.
Leave now, leave forever, come back in a week,
whatever. It's been said before, it'll be said again.
Let me say this though: If you take your own
life, then you are more of a coward that any of
us trolls could ever be.
--Stone
The RSPWECW Softcore Champion!
"It is better to have a gun and not need it, than to
need a gun and not have it"
No trolling here, but some things need to be said, because I'm really
tired of this bullshit.
> I'm tired.
>
> So damned tired.
>
> A long time ago, I tried to do what I could to keep RSPW a pretty
decent
> place to be. Some ways I tried were effective, some ways I tried were
not
> so effective.
>
Its a fucking internet newsgroup. Get over it, get a life, put some
perspective on what a newsgroup means to anyone's life, and move on.
Christ almighty. A FUCKING NEWSGROUP!!! This is what the last three
years have been about! Jesus.
> At some point, a long, long time ago, I related, in the course of a
> discussion about my beliefs regarding Karma, and balance, a pretty
horrid,
> pretty personal situation that happened a long time ago involving my
> daughter.
>
I remember the post, and while I don't condone what anyone has said,
and I really don't remember much being said other than people
chastizing you for actually bringing up something so inappropriate on a
newsgroup full of strangers. But I remember the post, and you brought
it up as sort of a dickwaving contest about what kind of a bad
muthafucka you envisioned yourself as. DONT YOU EVER FUCKING SAY that
you did it as some heartfelt statement about life, karma, or love or
whatever. You brought up information no one asked for, no one wanted,
just to prove what a man you are to a bunch of 15 year old trolls
yanking your chain by calling you "redneck" and "jackoff". So because
of that, you brought up the intimate and private details of not your
life, because screw you, I could care less about what crap you dredge
up about yourself, but about your young daughter, without her
knowledge, you broke her trust, and as her father, its ten times worse,
you USED her plight to "get over". That's goddamn unspeakable what you
did. Don't you go blaming ANYONE for the shit you pulled.
> Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have made quite
the
> sport of dragging her into any conversation they could, in a weak
attempt to
> get under my skin.
Uh, no, don't really remember that. I *DO* remember people using that
to judge what kind of person you are. As in, "What kind of an ass hole
brings up something like that to win a flame war?" That's the comments
I remember.
>
> I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in high school, by
the
> time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
>
You let it go cuz you don't give a shit and you don't think about the
consequences of your actions. Face it.
> But it kept going.
>
> And going.
>
> And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these things -
probably
> including my original post, and hit the roof.
Rightfully so.
>
> Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight o
"Oversight?" More like "disgusting behavior".
n my
> part to not realize that some people here would not be above using
the rape
> of a 3 year old child as a heat-seeking tool.
Whats scary is that *YOU* used it that way.
but alas, I placed a little
> too much faith in human nature, a little too much faith in human
> intelligence, to think that anybody could actually *do* something
like that.
> I thought we were all human.
Hey man, you don't hear me talking shit about people's kids. I've yet
to say a word about your daughter. I troll, but I realize that these
things you don't joke about. You, however, to try and win flame wars
against knuckle dragging shut-ins brought that into the discussion, and
MUCH, MuUUUUUUUUUUCH more just to prove you were some sort of internet
badass.
>
> And now, because a few people - Stone, Alex Cain, Pete Panaro,
\
This is why I wrote in the first place. You know, fuck you man. I
didn't cause you to do this. I didn't cause you to bring up your
daughter's fucking tramatic experiences, things that were TOTALLY
inappropriate to bring up to strangers, much less the disgustig damned
purpose you brought them up for. No one told you to post from NCSU and
get fired. No one told you to go out and lose your company. No one told
you to challenge people to fights over them calling you petty names on
the internet.
take a little responsibility damnit. Hey, it ain't my business, and
hey, I feel bad for you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that
you sharing those things about your daughter were just a dumb mistake,
and I don't expect you to like what I said or think that it is my
place. But I'm responding when you fucking bring me up as the cause of
all your problems, no, I don't think so. Take a fuckin look in the
mirror pal.
Now you can come and kill me, thats fine, you're a grown man and you
can do what you want, but you know what, you've shown a pattern just
from me reading some silly troll and flame posts from you, that show
you to be an off-balanced, demented person. You've let a goddamned
newsgroup, which is really when you think about it, a bunch of words on
a screen, take over your life. And it has. Taking out your anger on me
or anyone else ain't gonna solve anyting til you take care of the real
problem.
flux, Bogus
> Sting, Tony Gancarski, Raven3:16, Steven Signorelli, and others simply
> cannot leave anything alone, here it is, three years later....and my
> daughter has lost her father.
>
> Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago. I realize that the sick
> bastards among you will write this off as a sympathy ploy, or a work,
or
> whatever,
Nope, its a tragedy. And one that could have been avoided.
but I am literally in tears as I write this, torn between taking
> my own life for the good of my child and every poor soul that has been
> touched by the blackened disease that is my life....and taking a few
other
> people out before I go. Right now, yeah, man, I'm pretty well out of
my
> mind.
>
> But, I'm broke, I don't have the gas money to get to DC or Griffin GA
or
> NYC.
Watch what you say pal. I dont take kindly to thinly veiled threats.
Especially from admitted manic depressives who have just have just been
admittedly driven out of their minds.
There's nothing I can do except sit here and know, now, that there is
> damn little humanity left in human beings.
>
> I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done
the one
> thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my
child.
>
> Will I have the balls to finally do it? Will I have the intestinal
> fortitude to finally cleanse the world of the sinister plague that is
my
> existence? Probably not. I lack the requisite character to take my own
> life.
>
> But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only
child
> because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand
up for
> what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain
bullying, was
> a *good* thing.
>
Wrong, you did it to get yourself over on a newsgroup.
> There is no honor in honestly. There is no dignity in being willing to
> expose one's life as an example to others
Nope, you exposed YOUR DAUGHTERS life to others. For no reason might I
add. No good reason at least. But you can't see it.
Hey John. Good luck in your life and I am sorry to hear about this. But
you need help man. Seriously, no trolling. The last three or so years
have not been normal behavior.
Take it easy.
>
--
He's got the hammer and sickle runnin through his veins, he was born
and rase in CHIIIIN-AY! He wears the heart of the Party on his sleeve,
he's come for your freedom so you better beware, Chad's Manchurian
made! He's manchurian made! He's manchurian maaa-aade!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
>I'm tired.
>
>So damned tired.
>
>A long time ago, I tried to do what I could to keep RSPW a pretty decent
>place to be. Some ways I tried were effective, some ways I tried were not
>so effective.
>
>At some point, a long, long time ago, I related, in the course of a
>discussion about my beliefs regarding Karma, and balance, a pretty horrid,
>pretty personal situation that happened a long time ago involving my
>daughter.
>
>Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have made quite the
>sport of dragging her into any conversation they could, in a weak attempt to
>get under my skin.
>
>I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in high school, by the
>time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
>
>But it kept going.
>
>And going.
>
>And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these things - probably
>including my original post, and hit the roof.
>
>Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight on my
>part to not realize that some people here would not be above using the rape
>of a 3 year old child as a heat-seeking tool. but alas, I placed a little
>too much faith in human nature, a little too much faith in human
>intelligence, to think that anybody could actually *do* something like that.
>I thought we were all human.
>
>And now, because a few people - Stone, Alex Cain, Pete Panaro, flux, Bogus
>Sting, Tony Gancarski, Raven3:16, Steven Signorelli, and others simply
>cannot leave anything alone, here it is, three years later....and my
>daughter has lost her father.
>
>Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago. I realize that the sick
>bastards among you will write this off as a sympathy ploy, or a work, or
>whatever, but I am literally in tears as I write this, torn between taking
>my own life for the good of my child and every poor soul that has been
>touched by the blackened disease that is my life....and taking a few other
>people out before I go. Right now, yeah, man, I'm pretty well out of my
>mind.
>
>But, I'm broke, I don't have the gas money to get to DC or Griffin GA or
>NYC. There's nothing I can do except sit here and know, now, that there is
>damn little humanity left in human beings.
>
>I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done the one
>thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my child.
>
>Will I have the balls to finally do it? Will I have the intestinal
>fortitude to finally cleanse the world of the sinister plague that is my
>existence? Probably not. I lack the requisite character to take my own
>life.
>
>But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only child
>because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand up for
>what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain bullying, was
>a *good* thing.
>
>There is no honor in honestly. There is no dignity in being willing to
>expose one's life as an example to others - be that example bad, or good.
>
>There is no freedom here - there is only the capitulation to the forces of
>whoever is the biggest asshole, whoever is willing to go the farthest to
>destroy a man's REAL life...and the life of his innocent child.
>
>I am completely destroyed. As a man, and as a human being. Whether I will
>find the strength to end this for myself, or instead drift into a life as a
>homeless stree person is an open question...but I can assure you all of one
>thing:
>
>You have seen the last of me.
>[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* I sincerely hope, stone, that this brings you
>pleasure
>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* I have always enjoyed our flame wars
>[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* and I sincerely hope, my friend, that you never
>have to feel this
>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You are a worthy opponent
>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
>
>I think that last line is about the only fitting epitaph for me, because god
>knows I've never in my life done anything else worthy of praise. So for
>those of you that have remained my friends, I ask you:
>
>Take *that*, in rememberance of me.
>
>I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent daughter, who's only
>crime in life is having me for a father.
>
>Goodbye.
I give this a 9.5 on the Troll-O-Meter. It's really closer to a 9, but
it gets an extra .5 from the fact that most of the resident RSPW
village idiots(Avenger, PeteKOF, StoneGolym, ect.) already seem to
have bitten on it. Excellent job, Johnny JeDong!
>> Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have made quite
>the
>> sport of dragging her into any conversation they could, in a weak
>attempt to
>> get under my skin.
>> I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in high school, by
>the
>> time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
>>
>
>> And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these things -
>probably
>> including my original post, and hit the roof.
>
>
Boycott the WWf and go see "Beyond the Mat" NOW!!!
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3960
Go now!!!
So get some sleep. At this point, you saying your tired makes you look
like some sort of fucked up "Ren and Stimpy" ripoff.
>
> A long time ago, I tried to do what I could to keep RSPW a pretty decent
> place to be.
Sure.
Just check out:
http://x31.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=293576366&CONTEXT=953620636.1611137028&hitnum=127
November 29, 1997. Ring a bell, John?
It should.
> Some ways I tried were effective, some ways I tried were not
> so effective.
You should never have pissed on Flux. I agree.
>
> At some point, a long, long time ago, I related, in the course of a
> discussion about my beliefs regarding Karma, and balance, a pretty horrid,
> pretty personal situation that happened a long time ago involving my
> daughter.
Which you should NEVER have done.
>
> Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have made quite the
> sport of dragging her into any conversation they could, in a weak attempt to
> get under my skin.
You mean, in no random order: Avenger, Bogus Sting, Mike Kelleher,
flux, Brutality, Mike Palij, Chad, and, of course, yourself.
>
> I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in high school, by the
> time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
God bless Deja.
By the way, John, as another example of Deja, I found a thread entitled
'AOL Abuse' started by Conn on November 28, 1997, that YOU got involved
in, which eventually went to December 13, 1997. In 15 days, courtesy
mostly of YOU, it got *152* replies.
(I could do this shit all day).
>
> But it kept going.
>
> And going.
And going, and going
*cue pink bunny running through RSPW*
>
> And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these things - probably
> including my original post, and hit the roof.
Owch. I feel for ya.
>
> Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight on my
> part to not realize that some people here would not be above using the rape
> of a 3 year old child as a heat-seeking tool.
*cough*AVENGER*cough*
> but alas, I placed a little
> too much faith in human nature, a little too much faith in human
> intelligence, to think that anybody could actually *do* something like that.
> I thought we were all human.
Until DNA tests prove otherwise.
Though sometimes I wonder...
>
Besides, haven't you seen "Mission To Mars" yet?
> And now, because a few people - Stone, Alex Cain, Pete Panaro, flux, Bogus
> Sting, Tony Gancarski, Raven3:16, Steven Signorelli, and others simply
> cannot leave anything alone,
ME? What the fuck did *I* DO?
> here it is, three years later....and my
> daughter has lost her father.
No. Your daughter has gained a father.
Try writing a letter of what you'd want to say or something.
Probably be theraputic.
>
> Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago.
Yes, you always were. Even Alicia Snow agrees on this.
I realize that the sick
> bastards among you will write this off as a sympathy ploy, or a work, or
> whatever, but I am literally in tears as I write this, torn between taking
> my own life for the good of my child and every poor soul that has been
> touched by the blackened disease that is my life....and taking a few other
> people out before I go.
John, if you kill yourself, I'll be at the funeral...but I doubt you
will. I doubt you'll do anything, except try to move on with your life.
Right now, yeah, man, I'm pretty well out of my
> mind.
Once a nutcase...
>
> But, I'm broke, I don't have the gas money to get to DC or Griffin GA
I'll wire you a money order. You can come see the rasslin' show.
or
> NYC. There's nothing I can do except sit here and know, now, that there is
> damn little humanity left in human beings.
And just how fucking long have you know this for, John? I've known this
since at LEAST age 3, and you are HOW old again? One thing that has
always pissed me off has been how human beings treat each other. Fuck
all of that.
>
> I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done the one
> thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my child.
...but your daughter allegedly knows nothing about this.
>
> Will I have the balls to finally do it? Will I have the intestinal
> fortitude to finally cleanse the world of the sinister plague that is my
> existence?
I hope so.
Probably not. I lack the requisite character to take my own
> life.
And the money to buy a gun with.
>
> But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only child
> because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand up for
> what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain bullying, was
> a *good* thing.
It is, just not in RSPW.
>
> There is no honor in honestly. There is no dignity in being willing to
> expose one's life as an example to others - be that example bad, or good.
>
> There is no freedom here - there is only the capitulation to the forces of
> whoever is the biggest asshole, whoever is willing to go the farthest to
> destroy a man's REAL life...and the life of his innocent child.
Cry me a river.
>
> I am completely destroyed. As a man, and as a human being. Whether I will
> find the strength to end this for myself, or instead drift into a life as a
> homeless stree person is an open question...but I can assure you all of one
> thing:
>
> You have seen the last of me.
Bye. However, if you end up homeless stop by for awhile, and I'll put
you up. No joke. Just try to call first.
> [22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* I sincerely hope, stone, that this brings you
> pleasure
> [22:26] *Stone-Golem* I have always enjoyed our flame wars
> [22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* and I sincerely hope, my friend, that you never
> have to feel this
> [22:26] *Stone-Golem* You are a worthy opponent
> [22:26] *Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
>
> I think that last line is about the only fitting epitaph for me, because god
> knows I've never in my life done anything else worthy of praise. So for
> those of you that have remained my friends, I ask you:
>
> Take *that*, in rememberance of me.
>
> I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent daughter, who's only
> crime in life is having me for a father.
>
> Goodbye.
> --
> *Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
--
Ace!
Da one and only!
"I Hate Trolls."
>so, John Henry's ex-wife reads RSPW?
>
yes she married Chad
I'm seemingly replying to this late, as many others have already posted
their comments, but I want to throw a few comments in.
I think the other posters have already touched on the main point I would
want to make, which is ownership of blame. The one common theme I've
noticed ever since your return is that it's _ALWAYS_ somebody else's
fault--with losing your job, with your daughter, with your status on
RSPW, and everything else gone wrong. If this is indeed a true
revelation on your part, you might ask yourself these questions:
Why did I IMMEDIATELY pick fights on my return to RSPW?
Why did I continue to tell strangers about my personal life?
Why is RSPW so important to me?
Do I have the ability to just be a friendly guy here?
John, my suggestion is to turn the computer off for awhile, go get a
good night's sleep, watch a sunrise, and chill out.
Wonder why she'd be mad? I'm sure it was all the trolls who made you post that
in the first place.
Lets say that everyone here was really supportive of you.... if I was her I'd
still be pissed at your dumb ass.
Just FOAD already.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Who's (n.N.) better than Kayvon?!? Nobody!!!
"Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm."
-Steven Wright
Then eat some lead for breakfast.
Sorry that we've reached the annual installment of John Henry's Life Is Wrecked
again. We all have problems, John. All of us are to varying degrees unhappy and
confused people, wondering why life hasn't panned out exactly as we thought it
would when we were young and told we had potential.
That much said, John, you're a punk. You're a punk for starting this with me.
You're a punk for using your daughter's court case to intimidate me. You're a
punk for making unwarranted allegations, based on me inverting a Ric Flair
quote to refer to helping your daughter learn about the importance of the bas
mitzvah in the Jewish faith.
Get some help, John. Buzz off, and take those old buzzards Palij, Bryant,
Tehawk and others interested in "cleaning up the newsgroup" with you, who
contribute little but flames and complaints. Christian charity, my Samoan ass.
When you're ready to apologize like a man instead of pulling this
NetBastid/emotional cripple split personality, send me an email. You have yet
to atone for anything.
Anthony Gancarski: The Minister.
cru.shootangle.com
One thing is that if I remember right, Nobody knew who John Henry was when
he posted the message about what happened to his daughter. I'm too lazy to
look it up, but I am almost positive of that. He could have been a complete
stranger. Nobody knew his real name.
Now look at this
John Henry <john...@wrestlingfanz.com> wrote in message
news:sddqvn...@corp.supernews.com...
> Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight on my
> part
> but alas, I placed a little too much faith in human nature, a little too
much faith in
> human
> I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done the
one
> thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my
child.
> But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only child
> because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand up for
> what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain bullying,
was
> a *good* thing.
> I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent daughter, who's
only
> crime in life is having me for a father.
I see a lot of people here talking about how John Henry needs to take the
blame for this. I agree, to a point. It was stupid of him to mention it,
even if he was using a fake name and nobody knew who he really was when he
did. There is always the chance that someone will find out who you are, no
matter how safe you feel.
But I also see people saying "You need to accept that this is your fault."
from what I see above here it looks to me like he IS. And it looks like
alot of other people ISN'T. I wonder if the people that have spent the last
3 or 4 years using anything they can to get under this guys skin are able to
take their share of the blame? It's all fun and games until somebody loses
an eye or a job or a kid.
You people (and you know who you are) that get off on "poking the stick at
the caged tiger" have just as much blame for this as he does. To blame
John Henry is as stupid and wrong as him not blaming himself. You share
equal, if not greater, blame for this. Because you are the ones that
couldn't tell between what I thought is an obvious made-up character and the
real man behind it. And you are also the ones that thought that teasing him
was so much "fun." So much of a boost to your little egos. And you are
also the ones that think that it's okay to use a kid to get over in a
flamewar just because you know there is one. I think that's pretty fucken
sick.
John Henry made a lot of mistakes. From what I'm seeing above here, and
I've seen it before, he knows that and is taking the blame for it. John
Henry always impressed me because he wasn't afraid to admit it when he
screwed something up. Thats alot more than I can say for any of you. But
his responsibility does not excuse you. Not to me, and I'll bet not to alot
of other people reading this. Whether on purpose or not, people like Bogus
Sting, Alex Cain, Stone Golem, Raven 3:16, flux, Pete Panaro, the Avenger,
Fatass Gancarski especially, all share blame here as much or more than JH.
I'm sure he felt like nobody would ever know who he was in real life. Just
like some of you think you will always be safe behind your screen names. It
was people using his daughter as trolling bait, again and again, for years
after the original post was made, that made this potential tragady. It was
the same thing that made it possible that his kid might see it and I am sure
that is what her mother is worried about.
I see John Henry taking blame for his mistakes. I see him saying that he
blew it. I wonder how many of you can do that? From what I can see here, it
looks to me like a whole lot of people are telling a whole lot of lies to
make themselves feel better about the whole thing.
I think you should be ashamed of yourselves, and I think you should pray
that God is more merciful to you, than you are to some of the other people
on this newsgroup. Nobody deserves this, and it makes me ashamed to even
read it because I never stepped forward and spoke up about it.
And one last thing
John Henry added more to this group in terms of intelligent commentary about
wrestling and legitimate insight into stuff behind the scenes than any 10
trolls combined. And Fatass Gancarski, who can't even tell a 30 year old
hippie from a 45 year old promoter (you aren't the only one that has seen an
omega show, fatboy) and who thinks that a justifiably angry e-mail in
response to a sick, sick, sick joke is something that should be posted, even
when he knows that doing so will make the situation even worse than it is
for JH and for his little girl. Sit there on your fat ass with your stack
of kiddie porn a bag of cheetos and an orange dick, Geekarski, and try to
live with yourself for what you did.
So those of you who are so quick to blame JH, maybe you want to take a look
at yourselves. Those of you who talk about how it's all a big 'work,' well,
you suck. Especially Pete Panaro, who might not be the worst of the lot,
but sure isn't above being to blame for this just like the rest of you.
Pete talks about how terrible it was of JH to talk about his kid in the
first place, but Pete forgot that when he did it, his kid might as well have
been anybodys kid. It was just a story, and if he said it was about someone
elses kid, then Pete would have no point. That's a lame excuse to avoid
admitting to yourself that you share the blame. Same for Spankarski, and
spunk, and the rest of you. I can see through it. I bet alot of people
can. Your just trying to make yourself feel better. Your not trying to
convince anyone of your innocence but yourself. And nobody else that made
comments like that is either. Bogus Sting talking about "don't take RSPW so
seriously." I think some you should be taking it MORE seriously. The
things you say can hurt real people. That is pretty serious to me.
I don't think JH is gonna do anything as stupid as killing himself. I've
seen him depressed before, and he got over it and moved on. Or hunting some
of you down, which I think I would be doing if I was him. If somebody
talked about 'making a woman' out of MY little girl, and they knew who I
was, I wouldn't bother e-mailing them, I'd just hunt them down like the dogs
they are and beat them to death. I think all of you should thank God that
JH isn't as insane as you think.
JH, BRAH~!, you've always been a highspot in this newsgroup for me, and I
hope you come back sometime, when this settles down and things get worked
out. I am sure that no judge in the world would look at this as a whole and
see it as a reason to take your kid away, and her mother's a bitch for even
threatening it. Buck up, little camper. I remember you used to quote a
tune from one of those alternative bands, Nirvana maybe, about "nothing can
do me in before I do myself." That's still true. If your alive, there's
always a chance you'll see your daughter again no matter how this turns out.
If you're dead, you won't, and THAT will be ALL your fault. Pull up, take a
break, and don't let it get you down.
And I think that's enough for now. I'll talk to you all again in another 6
years.
---
IT DOESN'T MATTER what my name is
So what? We don't know him in real life, we only know him here. And
his behavior here is absolutely atrocious.
> He once gave me his last 10 bucks to get dinner with
> before an SCW show, and I'm pretty much a stranger to him.
Don't be too flattered, he also gives bums on the street $20 bills.
> I've not stood
> up to you trolls before, and I always admired JH for doing it. I guess now
> it's time for someone to do it for him.
If he's really on the edge like he claims, I think the LAST thing he'd
want is more discussion of this matter. You realize, of course, that by
defending JH here you're inviting MAJOR heat, both to yourself and to
him. Do you think that's healthy for him right now???
> One thing is that if I remember right, Nobody knew who John Henry was when
> he posted the message about what happened to his daughter. I'm too lazy to
> look it up, but I am almost positive of that. He could have been a complete
> stranger. Nobody knew his real name.
Until he bragged about being a millionaire.
So his mistake _WASN'T_ using his daughter to "get over", it was
allowing his real name to be revealed? How about BOTH of them being
mistakes?
> But I also see people saying "You need to accept that this is your fault."
> from what I see above here it looks to me like he IS. And it looks like
> alot of other people ISN'T. I wonder if the people that have spent the last
> 3 or 4 years using anything they can to get under this guys skin are able to
> take their share of the blame? It's all fun and games until somebody loses
> an eye or a job or a kid.
Go read John Henry's bitter, hateful, rancid posts on the day he
returned.
> You people (and you know who you are) that get off on "poking the stick at
> the caged tiger" have just as much blame for this as he does. To blame
> John Henry is as stupid and wrong as him not blaming himself. You share
> equal, if not greater, blame for this. Because you are the ones that
> couldn't tell between what I thought is an obvious made-up character and the
> real man behind it.
It really doesn't matter. It's not up to us to decipher some elaborate
puzzle about which personality is the _REAL_ JH. Whether he was playing
a persona or being himself, he spent the majority of the time pissing
people off.
> And you are also the ones that thought that teasing him
> was so much "fun." So much of a boost to your little egos. And you are
> also the ones that think that it's okay to use a kid to get over in a
> flamewar just because you know there is one. I think that's pretty fucken
> sick.
Sometimes you just plain reap what you sow.
> John Henry made a lot of mistakes. From what I'm seeing above here, and
> I've seen it before, he knows that and is taking the blame for it. John
> Henry always impressed me because he wasn't afraid to admit it when he
> screwed something up. Thats alot more than I can say for any of you. But
> his responsibility does not excuse you. Not to me, and I'll bet not to alot
> of other people reading this. Whether on purpose or not, people like Bogus
> Sting, Alex Cain, Stone Golem, Raven 3:16, flux, Pete Panaro, the Avenger,
> Fatass Gancarski especially, all share blame here as much or more than JH.
He made his bed, and now he's sleeping in it.
> I'm sure he felt like nobody would ever know who he was in real life.
Bullshit! He couldn't wait to prove to everybody how rich and powerful
he was...hell, he put his name on the homerentpro.com site and directed
RSPW to it to get himself "over."
> Just
> like some of you think you will always be safe behind your screen names. It
> was people using his daughter as trolling bait, again and again, for years
> after the original post was made, that made this potential tragady. It was
> the same thing that made it possible that his kid might see it and I am sure
> that is what her mother is worried about.
Indeed--Deja can be very incriminating.
[snip the rest]
You know, I was going to go point by point and refute this crap, but I
decided it's really not good for John, and you're just plain not worth
it. If you want to help JH, go hang out with him and be his friend.
First off, Alicia, you initially informed me on IRC that your baby post
was real, and then asked me in confidence not to reveal it to others,
which I agreed to. You then told everyone else on the channel, making
my agreement with you pretty much moot. So you'll excuse me if I tend
to be a bit apprehensive around you when you ask me to keep something
quiet these days...besides, going over the log, I didn't once see you
ask me to keep the conversation private.
Now...
<AliciaS> i know him..he's not confident or secure in himself. I talked
to John on the phone before..he's really sensitive about his ego.
<AliciaS> He's really gone nuts now..honestly.
Is that or is that not your words from Monday, March 23, 2000?
Words in your mouth, indeed.
>
> Now..take this for what it's worth. Mystics believe that all problems
> are totally self-created. It's true.
With statements like these, I wonder if it's you or John who has gone
insane.
>Take any problem you've ever had
> and think about it.
As long as it's not John Henry...
> This is because actions come before thinking,
> espiecally when emotions are involved. I think that's a major problem
> with alot of people, they do not think anymore, they act. We're all
> people who act. You want to have sex, you do it. To hell with the
> consequences...pregnancy, STD's, infidelity. Emotions sometimes make us
> act even more outrageously and use our thinking skills even less. That
> is what we all do here in RSPW. ALL of us. I'm guilty of this as anyone.
> Even the most intelligent of us sometimes lose our grip and become
> people who only act, very stupidly I might add.
>
> Moral of the story is this..use your fucking head before you post
> something private or something that is going to potentially fuck you
> over royally. Think before you post, period.
See above.
>
> -Alicia Snow
-Alex C.
Do tell.
> I've
> been reading rspw since 1994, and posted maybe three times.
And why is that exactly? Convenient you show up NOW for a thread about
John "Psycho" Henry.
> It also happens
> that I have been lucky enough to meet JH several times,
I pity you.
> and in real life,
> he's a damn good guy.
That's why he lost his daughter, right?
> He once gave me his last 10 bucks to get dinner with
> before an SCW show,
Don't be surprised. I wouldn't put counterfeitting past him.
> and I'm pretty much a stranger to him.
Count your blessings.
>I've not stood
> up to you trolls before,
Because you'd lose, and you know it.
>and I always admired JH for doing it.
That was one of John's biggest mistakes, and oh boy, has he paid for it.
> I guess now
> it's time for someone to do it for him.
Why bother? He's already allegedly decided to kill himself. What good
would it do for him? Now, I know he's lurking and reading this, since
his dumb ass can't stay away from RSPW for less than a short period of
time, and by now he's back, but still, I can't see what good it would do
him.
>
> One thing is that if I remember right, Nobody knew who John Henry was when
> he posted the message about what happened to his daughter.
Wrong. I believe a Deja search would say otherwise. I went back as
early as November 1, 1997, and didn't find the post in question, but I'm
sure a Deja search would reveal that is incorrect. (BTW, I *did* find
John's post on November 27, 1997 where John posts the infamous flux-HTML
post).
> I'm too lazy to
> look it up, but I am almost positive of that.
You're wrong.
> He could have been a complete
> stranger. Nobody knew his real name.
Everybody knew his real name, given that he posted under it.
Besides, think of it this way - - - if nobody did indeed know his
real name when the post in question occurred, then logically today
it would either not be known, or be known by only a few persons, rather
than the entire newsgroup. So, logically, you're wrong.
>
> Now look at this
>
> John Henry <john...@wrestlingfanz.com> wrote in message
> news:sddqvn...@corp.supernews.com...
> > Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious oversight on my
> > part
>
> > but alas, I placed a little too much faith in human nature, a little too
> much faith in
> > human
>
> > I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now I have done the
> one
> > thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused pain to my
> child.
>
> > But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I hurt my only child
> > because I believed that honesty, openness, and the courage to stand up for
> > what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just plain bullying,
> was
> > a *good* thing.
>
> > I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent daughter, who's
> only
> > crime in life is having me for a father.
Please don't bother us with that pointless crap ever again.
>
> I see a lot of people here talking about how John Henry needs to take the
> blame for this. I agree, to a point. It was stupid of him to mention it,
> even if he was using a fake name and nobody knew who he really was when he
> did.
Uhm...given that he was known as the 'Netbastard' it wasn't exactly a
fake name. It was pretty easily associated with him, especially when he
revealed he used it as a pseudo-character for his SCW days.
> There is always the chance that someone will find out who you are, no
> matter how safe you feel.
That's why there are deadbolts on doors.
>
> But I also see people saying "You need to accept that this is your fault."
> from what I see above here it looks to me like he IS.
But, not in the way he should. Rather than taking responsibility for
his direct actions, he's trying to tap dance around them and blame
others as well.
> And it looks like
> alot of other people ISN'T. I wonder if the people that have spent the last
> 3 or 4 years using anything they can to get under this guys skin are able to
> take their share of the blame?
Which should be what, exactly? John practically dared the trolls to
take him down from NCSU. He posted under his HomerentPro.Com address to
RSPW. He first brought up his daughter and later admitted to the post,
despite having made an attempt to cover his ass when he originally
posted it.
I'd say it's pretty clear where all the blame lies. John screwed John.
> It's all fun and games until somebody loses
> an eye or a job or a kid.
Tell me about it... but then again, that's an entirely different thread.
>
> You people (and you know who you are) that get off on "poking the stick at
> the caged tiger" have just as much blame for this as he does.
I seriously doubt it. As I have just previously stated, John screwed
John. Whenever, and every time he did, John fucked up, instead of
taking responsibility for it, he'd try to tap dance around it, and
attempt to bring others into the problem, to try to either vent his own
anger, or pass the blame onto another. This is just wrong, but it's a
typical John Henry "NetBastard" DeJong tactic...and probably always will
be. One of his classic moves, in all actuality.
> To blame
> John Henry is as stupid and wrong as him not blaming himself. You share
> equal, if not greater, blame for this.
I've already stated my opinion on this twice...read above. But I am
curious why you're harking on it so much...is it because you don't want
to pay him the $10 back?
> Because you are the ones that
> couldn't tell between what I thought is an obvious made-up character and the
> real man behind it.
That's just the point... John took great pleasure in attempting to
'work' others into believing it was all the 'Netbastard' personality,
and at several points actually bragged about doing so. If he threatened
someone's life, it was a work. If they threatened his, it was a
TOSsable offense. John has been one of the biggest hypocrites in the
entire history of this newsgroup...though I can't really say that, since
the group goes back to 1991, and I've only been reading since 1997.
But, I'm sure if you ask around, John's name would come up more than
once.
Point being, John purposely threw his wrestling persona into his own,
and the two combined literally blew his mind, the results of which we're
now seeing.
> And you are also the ones that thought that teasing him
> was so much "fun."
It was. I loved watching him explode into 600-700 + line rants.
Especially when he bitched about the trolls wasting bandwidth within
one. ;)
> So much of a boost to your little egos.
Leggo my Ego!
> And you are
> also the ones that think that it's okay to use a kid to get over in a
> flamewar just because you know there is one.
*I* don't. Others do.
> I think that's pretty fucken
> sick.
Does it matter what you think? I think not.
>
> John Henry made a lot of mistakes.
Yep. Tons of 'em.
> From what I'm seeing above here, and
> I've seen it before, he knows that and is taking the blame for it.
No - he's leaving because he's been bitch-slapped back into hiding.
Provided he doesn't have a moment of transition and actually DOES get it
into blowing his brains out or making toast by the tub, he'll be back.
He always is.
> John
> Henry always impressed me because he wasn't afraid to admit it when he
> screwed something up.
I beg to differ. Most times, he tried to blame others, or attempted to
use doublespeak, broken logic, and lies to cover it up. And a Deja
search will DEFINITELY confirm that. Hell, I'll do it myself, if I'm
bored enough...Lord knows I found enough material already from 11-1-97
to 3-1-98 to prove that and more.
> Thats alot more than I can say for any of you.
Do me a favor, and do your homework next time, before you speak.
It only serves to make a complete fool of yourself if you don't.
> But
> his responsibility does not excuse you.
Yes, it does. Especially given that there's no responsibility to the
trolls, save for possibly Avenger, to excuse.
>Not to me, and I'll bet not to alot
> of other people reading this. Whether on purpose or not, people like Bogus
> Sting, Alex Cain, Stone Golem, Raven 3:16, flux, Pete Panaro, the Avenger,
> Fatass Gancarski especially, all share blame here as much or more than JH.
No. John screwed John, and then had an emotional breakdown as he
finally realized the truth.
> I'm sure he felt like nobody would ever know who he was in real life.
Are you kidding? He went more than out of his way to make it known who
he was. HomerentPro, JHNB --- all of his aliases, he made it perfectly
clear who he was. He never really made any attempt to hide it, except
in mid-February 1998, where he changed over to his "Netbastard"
personality for the first time...then he tried to keep it rather quiet.
> Just
> like some of you think you will always be safe behind your screen names.
...like yourself? Lurker or not, you might want to be careful.
> It
> was people using his daughter as trolling bait, again and again, for years
> after the original post was made, that made this potential tragady.
And if John had never posted, it would never have happened.
> It was
> the same thing that made it possible that his kid might see it and I am sure
> that is what her mother is worried about.
>
> I see John Henry taking blame for his mistakes. I see him saying that he
> blew it. I wonder how many of you can do that? From what I can see here, it
> looks to me like a whole lot of people are telling a whole lot of lies to
> make themselves feel better about the whole thing.
Lies are nothing. Truth is everything.
>
> I think you should be ashamed of yourselves, and I think you should pray
> that God is more merciful to you, than you are to some of the other people
> on this newsgroup
I think you seriously should shut the hell up, before the trolls take
you to town as much as they did John Henry.
> Nobody deserves this, and it makes me ashamed to even
> read it because I never stepped forward and spoke up about it.
And because you didn't, John is now dead. Are you happy?
>
> And one last thing
Geezus don't you EVER shut up?
>
> John Henry added more to this group in terms of intelligent commentary about
> wrestling and legitimate insight into stuff behind the scenes than any 10
> trolls combined.
HA HA HA HA that's rich. You might be interested to know that from the
11-1-97 to 3-1-98, when I went to look at John Henry's posts last night,
out of mere curiousity, a good 85%, AT LEAST, were off-topic posts, and
either responses to trolls, or, *gasp* troll posts in general.
Explain THAT, asshole.
>And Fatass Gancarski, who can't even tell a 30 year old
> hippie from a 45 year old promoter (you aren't the only one that has seen an
> omega show, fatboy)
Yea. I heard at least 20 fans came to the last show.
> and who thinks that a justifiably angry e-mail in
> response to a sick, sick, sick joke is something that should be posted, even
> when he knows that doing so will make the situation even worse than it is
> for JH and for his little girl.
It couldn't get much worse.. besides, jackass, JOHN let the cat out of
the bag and emailed the Cru...it was John's choice, and he should have
known enough of Gan's behavior to not have done so.
> Sit there on your fat ass with your stack
> of kiddie porn a bag of cheetos and an orange dick, Geekarski, and try to
> live with yourself for what you did.
Which was what, exactly?
>
> So those of you who are so quick to blame JH, maybe you want to take a look
> at yourselves.
Maybe YOU should go back to lurking. I find it a little more than
convenient that you claim to have posted only "3" times in a period of 6
1/2 years, then show up once John gets bitch-slapped the hardest he's
been in three years. I also find it suspicious that you use Outlook
Express, the same news reader John uses, and post through Supernews,
which is what John does. Especially since it's a known fact that the
majority of Supernews posts do not reveal the originating IP headers...
IS THAT YOU, JOHN F'N HENRY???
> Those of you who talk about how it's all a big 'work,' well,
> you suck. Especially Pete Panaro, who might not be the worst of the lot,
How odd...John had Pete as his main target, as well.
> but sure isn't above being to blame for this just like the rest of you.
> Pete talks about how terrible it was of JH to talk about his kid in the
> first place, but Pete forgot that when he did it, his kid might as well have
> been anybodys kid. It was just a story, and if he said it was about someone
> elses kid, then Pete would have no point. That's a lame excuse to avoid
> admitting to yourself that you share the blame. Same for Spankarski, and
> spunk, and the rest of you. I can see through it. I bet alot of people
> can. Your just trying to make yourself feel better. Your not trying to
> convince anyone of your innocence but yourself. And nobody else that made
> comments like that is either. Bogus Sting talking about "don't take RSPW so
> seriously." I think some you should be taking it MORE seriously. The
> things you say can hurt real people. That is pretty serious to me.
>
> I don't think JH is gonna do anything as stupid as killing himself.
Oh god I hope he does.
I've
> seen him depressed before, and he got over it and moved on. Or hunting some
> of you down, which I think I would be doing if I was him. If somebody
> talked about 'making a woman' out of MY little girl, and they knew who I
> was, I wouldn't bother e-mailing them, I'd just hunt them down like the dogs
> they are and beat them to death. I think all of you should thank God that
> JH isn't as insane as you think.
>
> JH, BRAH~!, you've always been a highspot in this newsgroup for me, and I
> hope you come back sometime, when this settles down and things get worked
> out. I am sure that no judge in the world would look at this as a whole and
> see it as a reason to take your kid away, and her mother's a bitch for even
> threatening it. Buck up, little camper. I remember you used to quote a
> tune from one of those alternative bands, Nirvana maybe, about "nothing can
> do me in before I do myself." That's still true. If your alive, there's
> always a chance you'll see your daughter again no matter how this turns out.
> If you're dead, you won't, and THAT will be ALL your fault. Pull up, take a
> break, and don't let it get you down.
Shut up, John.
>
> And I think that's enough for now. I'll talk to you all again in another 6
> years.
> ---
> IT DOESN'T MATTER what my name is
--
> Get some help, John. Buzz off, and take those old buzzards Palij, Bryant,
> Tehawk and others interested in "cleaning up the newsgroup" with you, who
> contribute little but flames and complaints.
Mister Gancarski:
Please do not speak for me. My badge went in the junk drawer long ago,
while you were still milking your anti-Owen gimmick for all it was
worth. Justice has been served many times over in regards to the abuse
of this newsgroup and its posters, and the signal-to-noise ratio of
r.s.p-w has improved, due to the efforts of many, including you and I.
Those that seek to destroy is are now (rightfully) viewed by the
majority as sub-human refuse.
Good day.
--
Chad Bryant
chadb...@chadbryant.cjb.net
http://www.chadbryant.cjb.net
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you don't want and get it." - Eugene V. Debs
Friends don't let friends vote Republican.
I dunno whether your taking anyone to task but yes, its true that
people do act before they think. But that is *NOT* an acceptable excuse
for anything. Self control is the greatest virtue.
>
> Moral of the story is this..use your fucking head before you post
> something private or something that is going to potentially fuck you
> over royally. Think before you post, period.
>
> -Alicia Snow
lol-where'd you eat, Sizzler?
'@lurker' is John Henry, no doubt...
---
>>It also happens
>>that I have been lucky enough to meet JH several times, and in real life,
>>he's a damn good guy. He once gave me his last 10 bucks to get dinner with
>>before an SCW show, and I'm pretty much a stranger to him.
>
>lol-where'd you eat, Sizzler?
Maybe Phil Schneider was there. Wow! ~ONLINE DEITIES!
>'@lurker' is John Henry, no doubt...
The lurker needs to go back to lurking. Ironic that his first post would be
off-topic.
For those of you who still haven't killfiled me, or any post containing
the words "John Henry" - - - let me present the evidence:
* EXHIBIT "A" : John Henry commonly uses Supernews as a posting site.
I give you:
Message-ID: <sddqvn...@corp.supernews.com>
(From his original message [META] You win.)
Now take this post from "Innocent Bystander."
Message-ID: <sdg85r...@corp.supernews.com>
Those ID are both Supernews, and both conviently similar to one another,
wouldn't you say?
sddqvn...@corp.supernews.com | sdg85r...@corp.supernews.com
* I give you EXHIBIT "B". Posting newsreaders are common things
nowadays for Usenet. There's dozens of them around there. Quite
commonly, they are brought up in various topics when one attempts to
troll through them or change ones info falsely in order to troll.
I give you John's newsreader (again, from his 'META' post):
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
And I give you the newsreader of "Innocent Bystander" :
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
Wow. Who would've thought they use the same newsreader?
Convenient for a so-called "lurker" who has "posted 3 times since 1994".
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 (John)
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 (Bystander)
* EXHIBIT "C". This evidence is more or less circumstanial, but...
I find it hard to believe, that a Deja search on this individual
reveals that he didn't appear in this newsgroup until March 21,
2000...which would happen to be today. Coincidentally enough, it's
also almost 24 hours to the day of John's original post.
For the search, which I told to check back as far as 1997:
Now, onto EXHIBIT "D". This evidence IS circumstancial, but given the
damning evidence to the contrary, I think it's not that important that
it's circumstancial. Why would this "lurker" conviently show up, all
of a sudden, out of nowhere, and start posting about, and I quote,
paraphrased, "what a great guy John Henry is". Who else would pull a
stupid stunt like this, but John himself?
Ladies and Gentlemen (and trolls) of RSPW, the evidence is clear:
--same newsreader
--same posting time
--same thread
--support for John in a sea of negativity
--facts known only by John to John
--same posting site(s)
--same method of accusation of victims
Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you, John Henry DeJong. One of THE
biggest assholes on the planet, ESPECIALLY since he uses his so-called
"daughter" as bait, and tries to work everyone into thinking he was
going insane and committing suicide.
John...and this is a "shoot"...
I think you're the lowest piece of shit possible on this entire planet.
If you DO indeed have a daughter, I'm going to make sure she knows that
you used her in an attempt to "work" an entire newsgroup into having
lost her, and that you are using her well-being and fragile emotional
state, as well as her relationship to you, in your sick, twisted, mind
games to RSPW.
You're screwed, buddy.
Have a nice life.
---Alex Cain.
(John as "Innocent Bystander" writes):
--
He is, and I just posted proving so.
The damningest evidence is not the fact that it's out of Supernews as
John used to post through, but that he uses Outlook Express 5.0, down to
the numbered version that John himself has.
John, you fucked up, buddy.
And if you truly DO have a daughter, which I now seriously doubt...
I'm gonna make sure she knows how you used her to screw with RSPW.
Have a nice life, jackass.
>
> ---
>
> Boycott the WWf and go see "Beyond the Mat" NOW!!!
> http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3960
> Go now!!!
--
Snip
Just like you're the only person that uses the following newsreader:
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U)
It always gives you away.
Tehawk ©2000
RSPWECW World Champion
Former Two Time RSPWWCW World Champion
Former RSPWECW Softcore Champion
The Franchise of RSPW
ICQ #4610826
http://tehawk.homepage.com/
http://members.theglobe.com/tehawk/
http://www.geocities.com/tehawk/
http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/lucas/209/index.html
God Put Me On Earth To Accomplish A Certain Number Of Things,
Right Now I Am So Far Behind I Will Never Die
lol
>>'@lurker' is John Henry, no doubt...
>
>The lurker needs to go back to lurking. Ironic that his first post would be
>off-topic.
I bet The Lurker marks for Toad...
>"John Henry" <john...@wrestlingfanz.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm tired.
>>
>>So damned tired.
>>
>>A long time ago, I tried to do what I could to keep RSPW
a pretty decent
>>place to be. Some ways I tried were effective, some ways
I tried were not
>>so effective.
>>
>>At some point, a long, long time ago, I related, in the
course of a
>>discussion about my beliefs regarding Karma, and balance,
a pretty horrid,
>>pretty personal situation that happened a long time ago
involving my
>>daughter.
>>
>>Since then, a few pedophiles and other such lowlifes have
made quite the
>>sport of dragging her into any conversation they could,
in a weak attempt to
>>get under my skin.
>>
>>I let it go, because I figure hell, she's not even in
high school, by the
>>time she's old enough to find this crap, it'll be gone.
>>
>>But it kept going.
>>
>>And going.
>>
>>And then, a few days ago, her mother found some of these
things - probably
>>including my original post, and hit the roof.
>>
>>Not that I blame her, after all, it was a pretty serious
oversight on my
>>part to not realize that some people here would not be
above using the rape
>>of a 3 year old child as a heat-seeking tool. but alas,
I placed a little
>>too much faith in human nature, a little too much faith
in human
>>intelligence, to think that anybody could actually *do*
something like that.
>>I thought we were all human.
>>
>>And now, because a few people - Stone, Alex Cain, Pete
Panaro, flux, Bogus
>>Sting, Tony Gancarski, Raven3:16, Steven Signorelli, and
others simply
>>cannot leave anything alone, here it is, three years
later....and my
>>daughter has lost her father.
>>
>>Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago. I realize
that the sick
>>bastards among you will write this off as a sympathy
ploy, or a work, or
>>whatever, but I am literally in tears as I write this,
torn between taking
>>my own life for the good of my child and every poor soul
that has been
>>touched by the blackened disease that is my life....and
taking a few other
>>people out before I go. Right now, yeah, man, I'm pretty
well out of my
>>mind.
>>
>>But, I'm broke, I don't have the gas money to get to DC
or Griffin GA or
>>NYC. There's nothing I can do except sit here and know,
now, that there is
>>damn little humanity left in human beings.
>>
>>I'm an embarassment to my friends and to myself, and now
I have done the one
>>thing that I swore I would never, ever do: I have caused
pain to my child.
>>
>>Will I have the balls to finally do it? Will I have the
intestinal
>>fortitude to finally cleanse the world of the sinister
plague that is my
>>existence? Probably not. I lack the requisite character
to take my own
>>life.
>>
>>But I will live for the rest of my life knowing that I
hurt my only child
>>because I believed that honesty, openness, and the
courage to stand up for
>>what I believe in against oppression, elitism, and just
plain bullying, was
>>a *good* thing.
>>
>>There is no honor in honestly. There is no dignity in
being willing to
>>expose one's life as an example to others - be that
example bad, or good.
>>
>>There is no freedom here - there is only the capitulation
to the forces of
>>whoever is the biggest asshole, whoever is willing to go
the farthest to
>>destroy a man's REAL life...and the life of his innocent
child.
>>
>>I am completely destroyed. As a man, and as a human
being. Whether I will
>>find the strength to end this for myself, or instead
drift into a life as a
>>homeless stree person is an open question...but I can
assure you all of one
>>thing:
>>
>>You have seen the last of me.
>>[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* I sincerely hope, stone, that
this brings you
>>pleasure
>>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* I have always enjoyed our flame wars
>>[22:26] -> *Stone-Golem* and I sincerely hope, my friend,
that you never
>>have to feel this
>>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You are a worthy opponent
>>[22:26] *Stone-Golem* You've always fought with passion
>>
>>I think that last line is about the only fitting epitaph
for me, because god
>>knows I've never in my life done anything else worthy of
praise. So for
>>those of you that have remained my friends, I ask you:
>>
>>Take *that*, in rememberance of me.
>>
>>I am sorry, to you all, and mostly to my poor, innocent
daughter, who's only
>>crime in life is having me for a father.
>>
>>Goodbye.
>
>I give this a 9.5 on the Troll-O-Meter. It's really closer
to a 9, but
>it gets an extra .5 from the fact that most of the
resident RSPW
>village idiots(Avenger, PeteKOF, StoneGolym, ect.) already
seem to
>have bitten on it. Excellent job, Johnny JeDong!
Yea but Cain-whose backpedalling now, Bogus Sting and
Gancarski also bit on it not too long afterwards so that's
gotta put it up near a 10.
--
Anon news web interface. FAQ available for review at:
http://packetderm.cotse.com/cgi-bin/blockit.cgi
Is this the message you claim got 'cancelled?'
Innocent Bystander...having changed my name again, just like I did for
the last post, and every post I made before that. Idiot.
Oh, and Alex:
Your address and phone number are out there, bud. I'd be damn careful
about going around saying somebody 'deserved it' and 'should have
never posted.' After all, someone might get mad enough at you one day
to post that information.
Just a happy thought, from your conscience. More to come.
>He is, and I just posted proving so.
>The damningest evidence is not the fact that it's out of Supernews as
>John used to post through, but that he uses Outlook Express 5.0, down to
>the numbered version that John himself has.
Amazing. You mean, they make a different version number for every
copy of Outlook Express that is distributed? Like a unique key, as
opposed to a "verison number?"
No wonder people call you Dink. Your an idiot.
>John, you fucked up, buddy.
>And if you truly DO have a daughter, which I now seriously doubt...
>I'm gonna make sure she knows how you used her to screw with RSPW.
Are you saying that you would intentionally harass a child because you
don't like her dad? That's pretty fucken sick. You need me back.
>Those ID are both Supernews, and both conviently similar to one another,
>wouldn't you say?
Incredible. 2 people using the same newsfeed have similar message
ID's. You are the man.
>Wow. Who would've thought they use the same newsreader?
>Convenient for a so-called "lurker" who has "posted 3 times since 1994".
Incredible. 2 people that use the same newsreader version - a
newsreader that comes for free with Internet Explorer. How did you
get so smart?
>* EXHIBIT "C". This evidence is more or less circumstanial, but...
>I find it hard to believe, that a Deja search on this individual
>reveals that he didn't appear in this newsgroup until March 21,
>2000...which would happen to be today. Coincidentally enough, it's
>also almost 24 hours to the day of John's original post.
Guess what? I didn't appear until 5 minutes ago. You are so smart.
>Now, onto EXHIBIT "D". This evidence IS circumstancial, but given the
>damning evidence to the contrary, I think it's not that important that
>it's circumstancial. Why would this "lurker" conviently show up, all
>of a sudden, out of nowhere, and start posting about, and I quote,
>paraphrased, "what a great guy John Henry is". Who else would pull a
>stupid stunt like this, but John himself?
Hm. So anyone that takes Johns view of things is John. I think your
paranoia is getting the best of you.
Like I said, I feel bad for not saying anything earlier. John's a
good guy, and he doesn't deserve this. That's why I posted and i'll
keep posting, and you won't know if it's me or someone else. you
CAN'T know.
>Ladies and Gentlemen (and trolls) of RSPW, the evidence is clear:
>--facts known only by John to John
Which facts were those?
>--same posting site(s)
You think. Hell Dink, we might even have the same ISP.
>--same method of accusation of victims
>I think you're the lowest piece of shit possible on this entire planet.
>If you DO indeed have a daughter, I'm going to make sure she knows that
>you used her in an attempt to "work" an entire newsgroup into having
>lost her, and that you are using her well-being and fragile emotional
>state, as well as her relationship to you, in your sick, twisted, mind
>games to RSPW.
A threat, Alex? Are you saying that you would intentionly torment a
child just because you don't like her dad? That's pretty fucken sick
if you ask me. Loser.
Your Conscience
> >I give this a 9.5 on the Troll-O-Meter. It's really closer
> to a 9, but
> >it gets an extra .5 from the fact that most of the
> resident RSPW
> >village idiots(Avenger, PeteKOF, StoneGolym, ect.) already
> seem to
> >have bitten on it. Excellent job, Johnny JeDong!
> Yea but Cain-whose backpedalling now, Bogus Sting and
> Gancarski also bit on it not too long afterwards so that's
> gotta put it up near a 10.
Geez. Can't two posters use the same ISP without you all getting paranoid?
SCW's management crew uses gloryroad.net. So does David Blanchard. So do
I. So did JH. Get lives, you Oliver Stone Wannabes.
I'm glad I didn't call anyone 'sparky,' you morons would have taken it as a
fingerprint.
Listen up, jackass: you spent MONTHS accusing me of being flux because
_WE_ have the same ISP. FOAD.
> > Geez. Can't two posters use the same ISP without you all getting paranoid?
>
> Listen up, jackass: you spent MONTHS accusing me of being flux because
> _WE_ have the same ISP. FOAD.
"There's a sucker born every minute."
-P.T. Barnum
>Alicia Snow wrote:
>>
>> > > Am I insane? I wasn't, until a few days ago.
>> >
>> > Yes, you always were. Even Alicia Snow agrees on this.
>>
>> I keep my opinions to myself most of the time. I have opinions about all
>> of this, most of which I do not share with others. When I say something
>> to someone private, I expect it to stay that way. Alex, I'd appreciate
>> it if you would not put words into my mouth.
>
>First off, Alicia, you initially informed me on IRC that your baby post
>was real, and then asked me in confidence not to reveal it to others,
>which I agreed to. You then told everyone else on the channel, making
>my agreement with you pretty much moot. So you'll excuse me if I tend
>to be a bit apprehensive around you when you ask me to keep something
>quiet these days...besides, going over the log, I didn't once see you
>ask me to keep the conversation private.
>
>Now...
>
><AliciaS> i know him..he's not confident or secure in himself. I talked
>to John on the phone before..he's really sensitive about his ego.
><AliciaS> He's really gone nuts now..honestly.
>
>Is that or is that not your words from Monday, March 23, 2000?
>
Today is Wednesday March 22, 2000.
>Tehawk wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:16:47 -0500, another one of the millions and
>> millions of the Hawk's fans, the person known as Alexander Cain
>> <alex...@juno.com> shouted out:
>>
>> Snip
>>
>> Just like you're the only person that uses the following newsreader:
>>
>> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U)
>>
>> It always gives you away.
>>
>> Tehawk ©2000
>>
>Actually, I'm not... it's used by quite a few in Usenet...
>but thanks for the compliment. :)
Actually used by very few people these days. Unlike you most people
do upgrade.
But a hell of a lot more people use the version of IE 5 that Dejong
used, myself too until recently. If you're claiming that it's no
proof that anyone using Mozilla 3.0 is you then how can yoiu claim
differently for a person using IE 5 which is more popular?
And, unlike, you, most people aren't over 40 years old and still
trolling newsgroups. You sad, pathetic, whore.
> But a hell of a lot more people use the version of IE 5 that Dejong
> used, myself too until recently.
Uh-huh. And the fact that it came from Supernews, using the same
version as John Henry, in support for John Henry, by a "lurker" who
claims that he's posted before yet shows up only three times less than
twenty-four hours after John's supposed "swan song," posting information
that only someone like John would know...the fact that it was cancelled,
same as my 'John DeJong e-mail' post, when John himself has admitted to
manipulating Outlook Express to do so in the past...
...means nothing, right?
Tehawk, do me a favor, and for once get your head out of your ass long
enough to do something other than shill a PPV match.
Of course, why would I expect YOU to be able to read headers for shit
after all this time, I don't know. Maybe I'm just a dreamer.
Idiot.
> If you're claiming that it's no
> proof that anyone using Mozilla 3.0 is you then how can yoiu claim
> differently for a person using IE 5 which is more popular?
Because you're a stupid bastard who simply can't see the point.
And probably never will.
>
> Tehawk ©2000
And you hiding behind Forte Agent means what, exactly? Until you grow
enough pubic hair to post under your real alias, your credibility and
anything associated with it means naught.
>
> >John, you fucked up, buddy.
> >And if you truly DO have a daughter, which I now seriously doubt...
> >I'm gonna make sure she knows how you used her to screw with RSPW.
>
> Are you saying that you would intentionally harass a child because you
> don't like her dad?
Nope. I'm saying she has a right to know that he dad used her in a
pathetic attempt to gain emotional support via the Internet as a pawn in
a whole false-emotional pain sense, and that she has the right to know
that this scumbag who calls himself her father would even consider doing
so in the first place.
After all, don't YOU have the right to know your mother's been sucking
off sailors on shore leave during the weekends?
That's pretty fucken sick. You need me back.
You need to stop using Forte Agent and grow some balls, before someone
kicks yours into your nostrils.
Wow, Tehawk, what's your next trick? Telling us the time?
Do me a favor and stay the fuck out of threads where you have no place
being.
>
> Tehawk ©2000
well Im convinced
Darth Avenger
the last of the Dark Lord of the Sith Trolls
RSPWWCW European Champion
1999 Inductee RSPW Hall of Fame
former RSPWWCW World Heavyweight Champion
former RSPWWCW World Television Champion
former RSPWECW World Tag team Champion (with ph767 and Darth Bundy)
retired RSPW-G Head of Covert Operations
"Avenger is the heir to my throne"- Jayrock
"By the time we are done with you, you wont even be able to get a WEB-TV account!"
---- Chad Bryant, who lost his domain name due to his spamming me
"trust me, in a few weeks you will be in JAIL!!" -suicide victim Alex Cain (RIP), over one year ago.
"Oh I am going to have fun with your $$$ after my lawyer gets a hold of you next week!!!"
- drug addict John Henry DeJong, last year (right before he mysteriously was fired from NCSU)
"you do realize that you're in a lot of trouble, don't you?
Things may be slow to happen, but they will happen. Trust me , you'll be off the Internet in a week, I promise that"
- ex-con/45 year old wine tasting former NYU doctoral fellow Mike Palij, who's harrassment of me led to his censurship
by his peers at NYU.
www.theavenger.somewhere.net
http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Ramp/7713/
>On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:16:47 -0500, another one of the millions and
>millions of the Hawk's fans, the person known as Alexander Cain
><alex...@juno.com> shouted out:
>
>
>Snip
>
>Just like you're the only person that uses the following newsreader:
>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U)
>
>It always gives you away.
>
>Tehawk ©2000
>RSPWECW World Champion
>Former Two Time RSPWWCW World Champion
>Former RSPWECW Softcore Champion
>
>The Franchise of RSPW
>ICQ #4610826
>
>http://tehawk.homepage.com/
>http://members.theglobe.com/tehawk/
>http://www.geocities.com/tehawk/
>http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/lucas/209/index.html
>
>God Put Me On Earth To Accomplish A Certain Number Of Things,
>Right Now I Am So Far Behind I Will Never Die
hey not offense Tehawk but Chad's "evidence" that I'm some 31 year old
newspaper reporter are just as, if not MORE flimsy than the evidence
Alex just posted.
Thanks. Glad to see you know where you lie in the pecking order...which
would be just below the gum on the bottom of my shoe, and the old
cigarette butt I use to scrape it off with.
>
> >Wow. Who would've thought they use the same newsreader?
> >Convenient for a so-called "lurker" who has "posted 3 times since 1994".
>
> Incredible. 2 people that use the same newsreader version - a
> newsreader that comes for free with Internet Explorer. How did you
> get so smart?
You miss the point, moron. Guy claims to have posted "3 times since
1994," and if you expect to buy that bullshit, I've got a bridge
somewhere on the East Coast to sell you. A Deja search as far back as
possible shows him only posting to RSPW on Monday, and only then twice.
>
> >* EXHIBIT "C". This evidence is more or less circumstanial, but...
> >I find it hard to believe, that a Deja search on this individual
> >reveals that he didn't appear in this newsgroup until March 21,
> >2000...which would happen to be today. Coincidentally enough, it's
> >also almost 24 hours to the day of John's original post.
>
> Guess what? I didn't appear until 5 minutes ago. You are so smart.
And anyone who has half a brain, you being the proof, can manipulate
ForteAgent to create a new identity to troll. Since John's never been
the smartest of emotionally damaged, drug-using, ex-drummers, I wouldn't
put it past him to fuck up and give away his new posting identity.
>
> >Now, onto EXHIBIT "D". This evidence IS circumstancial, but given the
> >damning evidence to the contrary, I think it's not that important that
> >it's circumstancial. Why would this "lurker" conviently show up, all
> >of a sudden, out of nowhere, and start posting about, and I quote,
> >paraphrased, "what a great guy John Henry is". Who else would pull a
> >stupid stunt like this, but John himself?
>
> Hm. So anyone that takes Johns view of things is John.
No. Anyone who takes John's view of things, is an idiot.
> I think your
> paranoia is getting the best of you.
I have no paranoia. You apparantly have plenty, since you feel the need
to conviently hide behind Forte.
> Like I said, I feel bad for not saying anything earlier. John's a
> good guy, and he doesn't deserve this. That's why I posted and i'll
> keep posting, and you won't know if it's me or someone else. you
> CAN'T know.
Oh, yes, I can. There are ways to find out. I may not be the smartest
of individuals, but you being the stupidest of bastards, you'll either
fuck up like the rest of them, or you'll make some half-assed mistake
giving yourself away...that is, IF I cared, which I don't...the only
thing I care about is you giving trolls a bad name, since you had to
resort to the completely unoriginal task of using Forte and hiding
behind a fake pseudonym.
>
> >Ladies and Gentlemen (and trolls) of RSPW, the evidence is clear:
>
> >--facts known only by John to John
>
> Which facts were those?
Go back and read the post, asswipe.
>
> >--same posting site(s)
>
> You think. Hell Dink, we might even have the same ISP.
I doubt it. You probably are either using an open news server, like
Avenger does(did), or you're hiding behind some obscure backwoods ISP
that only two people use and nobody gives a shit about...possibly both.
>
> >--same method of accusation of victims
>
> >I think you're the lowest piece of shit possible on this entire planet.
> >If you DO indeed have a daughter, I'm going to make sure she knows that
> >you used her in an attempt to "work" an entire newsgroup into having
> >lost her, and that you are using her well-being and fragile emotional
> >state, as well as her relationship to you, in your sick, twisted, mind
> >games to RSPW.
>
> A threat, Alex? Are you saying that you would intentionly torment a
> child just because you don't like her dad?
No - I'm saying that she as a human being has a right to know that her
father would even CONSIDER using her as a trolling mechanism in a false
attempt to gain emotional support via the Internet. I'm saying she has
a RIGHT to know that her father would sink low enough to consider using
her as a pawn for his own fucked up emotional needs, without even
stopping to think about what it might mean to her in the long run, or to
her thoughts and feelings as a whole.
That's pretty fucken sick
> if you ask me. Loser.
Who's the bigger loser - - - me, who has the testes to post as myself,
using a legitimate email address - - - or you, who hides behind a
semi-anonymous news reader, creating fake aliases, in order to avoid any
retribution via TOSsings or emails?
You're almost as bad as Tehawk.
>
> Your Conscience
Fuck you. I sold my Conscience to the Iraqis. I'm surprised you even
know how to SPELL that word...someone show you how to use the
spellchecker?
The entire point of the post was that it was done through Supernews,
thus obscuring the posting site.
Therefore... how would you have known where it came from?
I think you have some serious explaining to do.
Heh. He's none too bright, is he?
Of course, it's RSPW, the beauty of it being you don't have to keep high
expectations.
"I'm going to stalk Stephen Signorelli, if it's the last thing I ever
do." --- Chad Bryant
What message? I don't see anything.
>
> Innocent Bystander...having changed my name again, just like I did for
> the last post, and every post I made before that. Idiot.
So...this proves what, exactly? That you're a scared, possibly
emotional unbalanced, troll, with an ego complex and a driving need
to screw around with others for your own purposeful gain?
Hi, John.
>
> Oh, and Alex:
> Your address and phone number are out there, bud. I'd be damn careful
> about going around saying somebody 'deserved it' and 'should have
> never posted.' After all, someone might get mad enough at you one day
> to post that information.
...And? Just what the fuck are you implying? I don't respond to
blackmail, nor do I take it lightly. If you're going to do something,
DO IT, asshole. I challenge you as of 72 hours of this post to post it
publically.
Btw, coincidentally enough... John claimed he had my information, too.
>
> Just a happy thought, from your conscience. More to come.
What, you're going to juggle and show us how to make maccoroni pictures?
actually in YOUR case Stephen there's tons of info out there verifying
it for any idiot and Chad to find.
hey alice
look
over there
right BEHIND YOU!
that's right
its ANOTHER JOHN HENRY!
say butta
say beans
say mark
say you suck
say fuck dupp
say paranoid
say ahh
say bang
> Therefore... how would you have known where it came from?
Because I sent it, you idiot.
Otto! How ya been, ya chain-smoking bastard? Get my emails yet?
In case you missed them, I called you, if I recall correctly, "a
small-penised camel-fucking bastard." Care to respond?
Sure. And eagles can fly. Tell me another one. Next you'll be telling
me that doors are "push," rather than "pull."
talking to the voices again alice?
i thought his name was Pyter Taravich? ;)
---
Boycott the WWf and go see "Beyond the Mat" NOW!!!
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3960
Go now!!!
>Tehawk wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:59:38 -0500, another one of the millions and
>> millions of the Hawk's fans, the person known as Alexander Cain
>> <alex...@juno.com> shouted out:
>>
>> >Tehawk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:16:47 -0500, another one of the millions and
>> >> millions of the Hawk's fans, the person known as Alexander Cain
>> >> <alex...@juno.com> shouted out:
>> >>
>> >> Snip
>> >>
>> >> Just like you're the only person that uses the following newsreader:
>> >>
>> >> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U)
>> >>
>> >> It always gives you away.
>> >>
>> >> Tehawk ©2000
>> >>
>--
>Ace!
>
>Da one and only!
>
>"I Hate Trolls."
im afraid i gotta agree with Alex. This "lurker" is JoJo I'd bet
Chad's lunch money on it
>Someone special as The Bogus Sting wrote:
>
>> > Geez. Can't two posters use the same ISP without you all getting paranoid?
>>
>> Listen up, jackass: you spent MONTHS accusing me of being flux because
>> _WE_ have the same ISP. FOAD.
>
>"There's a sucker born every minute."
>-P.T. Barnum
>
>--
>Chad Bryant
>chadb...@chadbryant.cjb.net
>http://www.chadbryant.cjb.net
>
>"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord
>None of the above...f**k it, cut the cord"
>
>"It is better to vote for something you want
>and not get it, than to vote for something
>you don't want and get it." - Eugene V. Debs
>
>Friends don't let friends vote Republican.
yeah liek the way you suckered your wife into marrying your unemployed
bovine buttocks
You know what is the saddest thing about this thread? Not that we're
debating over a guy who may or may not have used his daughter for a work. Not
that Alex, Stephen, and all the other trolls around here are petty pieces of
human fecal matter or if they're not. It's the fact that most of these last 50+
posts were made during the middle of the afternoon or extremely late at night.
Do none of you have jobs? Go to college! Go to work! Do something with your
lives. You're wasting away on a newsgroup! Jeez! Get over it!
Now THIS is how you post as a lurker.
Steve "The Saxist" Holler -- TheSax on IRC
--[21:16] <S_t_o_n_e> Pete's a little thick sometimes. He means well, though.
--[20:17] <NetBastard> There is great intrisic value in a woman that's willing
to take it up the ass.
> >> Just like you're the only person that uses the following newsreader:
> >>
> >> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-BLS20 (Win95; U)
> >>
> >> It always gives you away.
> >>
> >> Tehawk ©2000
> >>
> >Actually, I'm not... it's used by quite a few in Usenet...
> >but thanks for the compliment. :)
>
> Actually used by very few people these days. Unlike you most people
> do upgrade.
> But a hell of a lot more people use the version of IE 5 that Dejong
> used, myself too until recently. If you're claiming that it's no
> proof that anyone using Mozilla 3.0 is you then how can yoiu claim
> differently for a person using IE 5 which is more popular?
Dink forgets that he doesn't use a "normal" version of Netscape 3.01. He
uses a version distributed only by BellSouth.
jesus christ john if youre gonna lurk at least cover your tracks
better
Alexander Cain wrote:
>
> Chad Bryant wrote:
> >
> > Someone special as The Bogus Sting wrote:
> >
> > > > Geez. Can't two posters use the same ISP without you all getting paranoid?
> > >
> > > Listen up, jackass: you spent MONTHS accusing me of being flux because
> > > _WE_ have the same ISP. FOAD.
> >
> > "There's a sucker born every minute."
> > -P.T. Barnum
> >
> > --
>
> "I'm going to stalk Stephen Signorelli, if it's the last thing I ever
> do." --- Chad Bryant
"This is a shoot..if there's anyone on this earth I'd like to kill, it'd
be Stephen Signorelli. If I ever get up to New Jersey, I'm going to find
out the truth about him. "-- Alex Cain in private conversation with me.
In the words of Mr.Panaro, pot, kettle, black.
-Alicia Snow
Now why would I want to move in on John's territory?
Dearest Alicia:
No. I understand you're close to John, but in this case, I'm fucking
tired of his attempted "works" and want to put an end to them, once and
for all.
In the words of El Kabong : KABONNNNNNG!
Because I think that it's all a 'work', and if so, I find it hard to
believe how low he has sunk using his OWN goddamn daughter. What sort
of father would EVER do that?
>Secret Squirrel <anon...@cotse.com> wrote in message
>
>> >I give this a 9.5 on the Troll-O-Meter. It's really closer
>> to a 9, but
>> >it gets an extra .5 from the fact that most of the
>> resident RSPW
>> >village idiots(Avenger, PeteKOF, StoneGolym, ect.) already
>> seem to
>> >have bitten on it. Excellent job, Johnny JeDong!
>
>> Yea but Cain-whose backpedalling now, Bogus Sting and
>> Gancarski also bit on it not too long afterwards so that's
>> gotta put it up near a 10.
>
>Geez. Can't two posters use the same ISP without you all getting paranoid?
>SCW's management crew uses gloryroad.net. So does David Blanchard. So do
>I. So did JH. Get lives, you Oliver Stone Wannabes.
>
>I'm glad I didn't call anyone 'sparky,' you morons would have taken it as a
>fingerprint.
Hey uh, "John Henry's 493rd Personality", I know how hard it probably
is tryin' to do damage control after stepping on your own dick, but
this part of the thread and these 2 posts you're responding to were
made much earlier and had nothing to do with the morphing. You should
have run this line somewhere else. Try to pay closer attention.
> > >Is that or is that not your words from Monday, March 23, 2000?
> > >
> >
> > Today is Wednesday March 22, 2000.
>
> Wow, Tehawk, what's your next trick? Telling us the time?
> Do me a favor and stay the fuck out of threads where you have no place
> being.
Dear Alex,
You just got owned by Tehawk. Hang up your posting spurs and take a long
walk... come back when your head is clear and you can think about which part
of your ass you're talking from.
Thanks,
-Vin
> You know something? I could write a long-winded post about this whole
> thread...but what's the point? I'll just sum up my view in a few
sentences.
>
> You know what is the saddest thing about this thread? Not that we're
> debating over a guy who may or may not have used his daughter for a work.
Not
> that Alex, Stephen, and all the other trolls around here are petty pieces
of
> human fecal matter or if they're not. It's the fact that most of these
last 50+
> posts were made during the middle of the afternoon or extremely late at
night.
> Do none of you have jobs? Go to college! Go to work! Do something with
your
> lives. You're wasting away on a newsgroup! Jeez! Get over it!
>
> Now THIS is how you post as a lurker.
Yay Sax! Now, if you could only get Quake 2 to work...
-Vin
>I'm tired.
>
>So damned tired.
Don't any of you marks realize that this is an old post from JH back when
one of the people who was fighting with him was me?
I don't even know if it was JH who really sent it this time. I do know he
has said exactly these words before. Obviously he is working your asses
all again, and you are ALL big Net Bastard marks for falling for it.
Does it take the mistress of manipulation to point out how pathetic all
you people are?
I reckon.
The Taskmistress Liz Michael
The Bitch Is Back, and she's puttin' the band back together!
www.lizmichael.com
"I'm gonna Hulk up with the UA, get my ass whipped by the Taskmistress, sit back
and watch Chad and the Avenger flame each other... THIS IS RSPW... LIKE
IT OR LEAVE IT!" ....Dave Rudden
Don't you have a penis to go attach somewhere?
>Don't you have a penis to go attach somewhere?
Well, if you swing that way, I'm game. Make sure to put a lot of
mayonnaise on your ass, because I'm awfully strong for a girl and my
dildoes are all very thick and long.
I should have known. It's that "older woman thing you have, right?
Here's a clue: YOU'RE A MAN.
and my
> dildoes are all very thick and long.
>
> I should have known. It's that "older woman thing you have, right?
>
Idiot.
> The Taskmistress Liz Michael
> The Bitch Is Back, and she's puttin' the band back together!
> www.lizmichael.com
> "I'm gonna Hulk up with the UA, get my ass whipped by the
Taskmistress, sit back
> and watch Chad and the Avenger flame each other... THIS IS RSPW...
LIKE
> IT OR LEAVE IT!" ....Dave Rudden
>
--
He's got the hammer and sickle runnin through his veins, he was born
and rase in CHIIIIN-AY! He wears the heart of the Party on his sleeve,
he's come for your freedom so you better beware, Chad's Manchurian
made! He's manchurian made! He's manchurian maaa-aade!
"You're crazier than Rip Torn at a nudist colony"-Alex Cain
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Before you buy.
>In article <38e42bd...@news.earthlink.net>,
>anal...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:28:06 -0500, the lowly commoner Alex Cain
>> <alex...@juno.com> deigned to say:
>>
>> >Don't you have a penis to go attach somewhere?
>>
>> Well, if you swing that way, I'm game. Make sure to put a lot of
>> mayonnaise on your ass, because I'm awfully strong for a girl
>
>Here's a clue: YOU'RE A MAN.
Well, if you see it that way.....okay, but why are you so obsessed with
me? Of course, you're way more obsessed with John Henry and Alex Cain
yourself....
I figured it out, Petey. You're a big homo!!! Not that there's anything
wrong with that. No wonder you have this penchant for wanting to be so
slim. Real men wouldn't worry about it and would bulk up some.
BWWWWWWWWWWWWWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!
> and my
>> dildoes are all very thick and long.
>>
>> I should have known. It's that "older woman thing you have, right?
>>
>
>Idiot.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Gotcha, Petey. And I wasn;t even aiming at you.
TEHAWK and Avenger are both peas from the same pod.
Fuck the both of you, bitches.
You're both lame-ass geeks with no jobs and less dick.
The time has come for a return to the glory days.
Like the WcW rising up from the ashes, the
T r o l l
W o r l d
O r d e r
is coming for you, cunts!
bRuTaLiTy ~circa 1997~
*yawn*
At least bischoff and russo know when something's over.