Talking Door
Steve Biggs
I was reading a very old copy of "Space Voyager" the other day (circa 1984)
which had what must have been one of the very first interviews with Terry
Pratchett ever published.
It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light Fantastic" had been
published (there was a review of TCOM in the same issue).
It revealed two interesting things...
1) Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of Service" whenever it opened,
2) Terry (at the time) claimed to hate Trekkies.
I wonder if Terry has the door still wired up?
Anyone have any earlier interviews?
Steve.
Dick Eney
In article <4p0op8$a...@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk>,
Steve Biggs <s...@mfltd.co.uk> wrote:
>a very old copy of "Space Voyager" (circa 1984) which had what must have
>published. It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light
>It revealed <snipet> Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of
Service" whenever it opened...
Sounds like a Hitchhiker GGttG reference. (Was it HGGttG or a DrWho
episode in which a door said that? dratted leaky memory)
I want to know how he did it. Years ago I wanted to wire up a door so it
would play a tape (of whatever I put in the machine) that would be audible
outside when the doorbell was pushed; mostly for Halloween, but also for
alleviating boredom on other occasions. I tried to design something but
it was too unwieldy and I have no electronic expertise.
-- Tamar
Mark Lowes
On 4 Jun 1996 15:10:19 -0400, in <4p21mr$c...@access4.digex.net>
dick...@access4.digex.net (Dick Eney) wrote.....
>In article <4p0op8$a...@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk>,
>Steve Biggs <s...@mfltd.co.uk> wrote:
>>a very old copy of "Space Voyager" (circa 1984) which had what must have
>>been one of the very first interviews with Terry Pratchett ever
>>published. It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light
>>Fantastic" had been published (there was a review of TCOM in the issue).
>>It revealed <snipet> Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of
>Service" whenever it opened...
>>I wonder if Terry has the door still wired up?
>>Steve.
>
>Sounds like a Hitchhiker GGttG reference. (Was it HGGttG or a DrWho
>episode in which a door said that? dratted leaky memory)
It's a hitchiker reference, the doors in the Heart of Gold....oh damm
i've just admitted to liking it >:) That's my net.cread hedgehogged
Mark
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Terry Pratchett
In article <4p0op8$a...@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk>
s...@mfltd.co.uk "Steve Biggs" writes:
> I was reading a very old copy of "Space Voyager" the other day (circa 1984)
> which had what must have been one of the very first interviews with Terry
> Pratchett ever published.
> It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light Fantastic" had been
> published (there was a review of TCOM in the same issue).
>
> It revealed two interesting things...
> 1) Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of Service" whenever it opened,
> 2) Terry (at the time) claimed to hate Trekkies.
>
> I wonder if Terry has the door still wired up?
>
> Anyone have any earlier interviews?
Impossible. That was the first one ever...seriously.
God know what happened to the door. It had about a dozen random phrases
including 'You have entered a prohibited area, weapons deploy in ten seconds'
and 'Creak creak creak', which was my favourite. Sheesh, the thing used a Z80
and a damn great pcb and I adapted it, I recall, from some board that 'told'
an operator what was happening on some chemical processing line.
I've matured a bit about Trekkies:-)
Terry
Giles Radford
In article <4p0op8$a...@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk>, s...@mfltd.co.uk (Steve
Biggs) found out:
> 2) Terry (at the time) claimed to hate Trekkies.
What I want to know is whether he still hates Trekkies[1], considering the
evidence from the start of MP?
-Giles
[1] Sorry, "Trekkers" Let's be politically correct here
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Mark Burbidge
In a message posted on 4 Jun 1996 15:10:19 -0400 to the newsgroup
alt.fan.pratchett, Dick Eney wrote:
>I want to know how he did it. Years ago I wanted to wire up a door so it
>would play a tape (of whatever I put in the machine) that would be audible
>outside when the doorbell was pushed; mostly for Halloween, but also for
>alleviating boredom on other occasions. I tried to design something but
>it was too unwieldy and I have no electronic expertise.
You can buy a kit from Maplin (catalogue in WHSmith) which can sample
sound and store the data on ROMs. The Roms can either be accessed "in
situ", or transferred to a dedicated playback unit (allowing the
sampler to be reused). It would be a trivial job to connect the
playback trigger to a doorbell or to a reed switch for triggering when
the door opens. (Burglar walks in . . . "Your move, creep")
I've never made this particular kit - and it was a few years ago when
I saw it, but it was certainly popular at the time and would probably
still be available.
Mark Burbidge http://www.ftech.net/~monark/
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In article <4p0op8$a...@hyperion.mfltd.co.uk>,
s...@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Biggs) wrote:
>I was reading a very old copy of "Space Voyager" the other day (circa 1984)
>which had what must have been one of the very first interviews with Terry
>Pratchett ever published.
>It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light Fantastic" had
been
>published (there was a review of TCOM in the same issue).
>
>It revealed two interesting things...
>1) Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of Service" whenever it
opened,
>
>
>Anyone have any earlier interviews?
>
Is it possible to get a transcript posted to this group? I, for one, would be
very interested to see what he had to say all those many books ago.
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Andy Fawcett
In article <31b5e06b...@news.ftech.net>
ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote:
> In a message posted on 4 Jun 1996 15:10:19 -0400 to the newsgroup
> alt.fan.pratchett, Dick Eney wrote:
> >I want to know how he did it. Years ago I wanted to wire up a door so it
> >would play a tape (of whatever I put in the machine) that would be audible
> >outside when the doorbell was pushed;
>
> You can buy a kit from Maplin (catalogue in WHSmith) which can sample
> sound and store the data on ROMs.
<sarcasm>
Wow, that would *really* be impressive!
I mean, ROM producing has always been so expensive, and now we find
that Maplins do a kit that will let you do it easily...
...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
EPROMs, but there you are!
</sarcasm>
Hi-de-hi!
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Mark Burbidge
In a message posted on Thu, 06 Jun 1996 16:24:12 +0100 to the
newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett, Andy Fawcett wrote:
>I mean, ROM producing has always been so expensive, and now we find
>that Maplins do a kit that will let you do it easily...
>
>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>EPROMs, but there you are!
If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
remember the correct name.
Mark Lowes
On Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:09:42 GMT, in <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote.....
[...]
>>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>>EPROMs, but there you are!
>
>If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
>programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>remember the correct name.
Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory :)
Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient, non-mickeysoft >:)
Mark
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In article <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk "Mark Burbidge" writes:
> If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
> programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
> remember the correct name.
I think you are groping for Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only
Memories (EEPROMs).
Mike
Peter Corlett
Andy Fawcett wrote:
>
> In article <31b5e06b...@news.ftech.net>
> ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote:
> <sarcasm>
> [...]
> </sarcasm>
<PEDANTIC>
Shouldn't your comments have been within an <PEDANTIC> </PEDANTIC> pair?
</PEDANTIC>
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In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:09:42 GMT, in <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
> ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote.....
> [...]
> >>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
> >>EPROMs, but there you are!
> >
> >If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
> >programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
> >remember the correct name.
>
> Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory :)
EPROM. Wrong!
Mark said they were electrically erasable, so they would be EEPROMs. An
EPROM is wiped by exposure to UV light, while an EEPROM can be thought
of as a kind of Flash ROM. You apply a voltage/current of a certain
level to write to the device, usually quite a bit higher than the Read
level.
> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
> non-mickeysoft >:)
Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
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Mark Lowes
On Fri, 07 Jun 1996 06:42:51 +0100, in <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> wrote.....
>In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
> Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:09:42 GMT, in <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
>> ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote.....
>> [...]
>> >>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>> >>EPROMs, but there you are!
>> >
>> >If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
>> >programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>> >remember the correct name.
>>
>> Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory :)
>
>EPROM. Wrong!
>
>Mark said they were electrically erasable, so they would be EEPROMs. An
>EPROM is wiped by exposure to UV light, while an EEPROM can be thought
>of as a kind of Flash ROM. You apply a voltage/current of a certain
>level to write to the device, usually quite a bit higher than the Read
>level.
That's what i was thinking of, little chips with a window in the top.
>> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
>> non-mickeysoft >:)
>
>Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
Oh you mean your little toy which you're trading in for a PC >:)
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Dave Le Good
In article <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>,
Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> wrote:
>In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
> Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:09:42 GMT, in <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
>> ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote.....
>> [...]
>> >>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>> >>EPROMs, but there you are!
>> >
>> >If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
>> >programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>> >remember the correct name.
>>
>> Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory :)
>
>EPROM. Wrong!
>
>Mark said they were electrically erasable, so they would be EEPROMs. An
>EPROM is wiped by exposure to UV light, while an EEPROM can be thought
>of as a kind of Flash ROM. You apply a voltage/current of a certain
>level to write to the device, usually quite a bit higher than the Read
>level.
>
Maplin produce a number of kits for digitally recording speach. The
starting package uses a 32K SRAM which will give 5 to 20 secs recording
time (depending on sample rate). Also available are EPROM based expansion
modules for non-volatile speach storage. A playback only kit for EPROMs is
also available.
None of the kits use EEPROMs. I think that Mark B was refering to the SRAM
version.
Dave
Andy Fawcett
In article <06071996...@lspace.org>
Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jun 1996 06:42:51 +0100, in <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> wrote.....
> >
> >EPROM. Wrong!
> >
> >Mark said they were electrically erasable, so they would be EEPROMs. An
> >EPROM is wiped by exposure to UV light, while an EEPROM can be thought
> >of as a kind of Flash ROM. You apply a voltage/current of a certain
> >level to write to the device, usually quite a bit higher than the Read
> >level.
>
> That's what i was thinking of, little chips with a window in the top.
Thassa EPROM.
> >> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
> >> non-mickeysoft >:)
> >
> >Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
>
> Oh you mean your little toy which you're trading in for a PC >:)
What's this 'trading in' malarky?
I might be getting a new PC soon (got to make some money soon, and the
PC market is bigger than the Acorn market), but the Acorn is staying
(much nicer to program), as is the ST.
[Wildly off topic even for afp, so FU to poster]
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In article <5a551...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
>that Maplins do a kit that will let you do it easily...
>
>EPROMs, but there you are!
You haven't got the idea have you. We're all equal here[2]. You're not supposed
to gloat over the inferiors. It's not _fair_ to them
[1] Okay, so maybe the trimming was a _little_ unfair <g>
[2] He says, lying through his teeth
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Andy Fawcett
In article <31B71844...@verrine.demon.co.uk>
Peter Corlett <pe...@verrine.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Andy Fawcett wrote:
> >
> > In article <31b5e06b...@news.ftech.net>
> > ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote:
> > > [...]
> > <sarcasm>
> > [...]
> > </sarcasm>
>
> <PEDANTIC>
>
> Shouldn't your comments have been within an <PEDANTIC> </PEDANTIC> pair?
>
> </PEDANTIC>
No, I much prefer the <sarcasm></sarcasm> pair, and since Mark B knows
me personally, he wouldn't expect anything less...
But you *almost* had a valid point...
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Mark Burbidge
On Fri, 07 Jun 1996 06:42:51 +0100, in
<e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org>
wrote.....
>Mark said they were electrically erasable,
Please don't take too much notice of the exact tech spec above, I
haven't looked in a Maplin catalogue for a few[1] years - I don't even
know if the kit is still available. Anyone care to check?
[1] Choose your own definition. I don't wanna get into THAT again.
Malcolm Reid
In article <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> writes:
>In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
> Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:09:42 GMT, in <31b71b2...@news.ftech.net>
>> ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk (Mark Burbidge) wrote.....
>> [...]
>> >>EPROMs, but there you are!
>> >
>> >programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>> >remember the correct name.
>>
>> Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory :)
>
>EPROM. Wrong!
>
>EPROM is wiped by exposure to UV light, while an EEPROM can be thought
>of as a kind of Flash ROM. You apply a voltage/current of a certain
>level to write to the device, usually quite a bit higher than the Read
>level.
>
>
>> non-mickeysoft >:)
>
>Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
>
386 with just under 1000 fonts installed[1][2].
[1] Okay, so maybe 1000 fonts is overkill. I do know someone with over 1500
fonts on his PC. One day...
[2] But then again, the networked PCs (allegedly 486 DX-50s) take 15 minutes
to boot up and load Windows.
Medge
In article <833887...@unseen.demon.co.uk>, Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk says...
>> which had what must have been one of the very first interviews with Terry
>> Pratchett ever published.
>> It was conducted by Neil Gaiman, and was before "The Light Fantastic" had
been
>> published (there was a review of TCOM in the same issue).
>>
>> It revealed two interesting things...
>> 1) Terry had a door wired up to say "Glad to be of Service" whenever it
opened,
>> 2) Terry (at the time) claimed to hate Trekkies.
>>
>> I wonder if Terry has the door still wired up?
>>
>> Anyone have any earlier interviews?
>
>
>God know what happened to the door. It had about a dozen random phrases
>including 'You have entered a prohibited area, weapons deploy in ten seconds'
>and 'Creak creak creak', which was my favourite. Sheesh, the thing used a Z80
>and a damn great pcb and I adapted it, I recall, from some board that 'told'
>an operator what was happening on some chemical processing line.
>
>I've matured a bit about Trekkies:-)
>
>Terry
Neil once told me that the door had gone because, although you had matured a
bit on trekkies, you'd gone off Douglas Adams.
I suspect that this is because you've outclassed Adams so much since The
Discworld started. DNA has done bog all since Hitch hiker's. This is reflected
in that I am a huge HHGTTG fan, and it is with great trepidation that I learnt
of the new Dirk Gently book. I will buy it, I have to buy it, it's a sickness.
I don't really expect to enjoy it too much.
medge.
Medge
In article <moof-05069...@192.168.2.169>, mo...@ocea.es says...
>
>> 2) Terry (at the time) claimed to hate Trekkies.
>
>evidence from the start of MP?
>
>-Giles
>
[2] Trekkers are just trekkies who can't laugh at startrek jokes.
Sten Thaning
Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>It's a hitchiker reference, the doors in the Heart of Gold....oh damm
>i've just admitted to liking it >:) That's my net.cread hedgehogged
Is "hedgehogged" the opposite of "buggered"?
- Sten Thaning (You have my E-mail-adress by now, right?)
Eike Michael Lang
On 06-Jun-96 18:09:42, ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk posted something in
alt.fan.pratchett that looked like: Re: Talking Door
>>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>>EPROMs, but there you are!
>If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
>programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>remember the correct name.
These ought (most likely) to be Static RAMs which will keep their contents
almost indefinetely without any need for a refresh signal or anything, until
they are overwritten again, you find these by the dozen in "memo pens", "memo
calculators", and the like typically storing around 20 secs. of Sound. The
above mentioned DIY-kits can be obtained from almost any electronic store
(Such as Conrad, or Voelkner in Germany, there must be equivalents elsewhere).
Ciao, Eike
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Only AMIGA makes it possible!
Terry Pratchett
> Neil once told me that the door had gone because, although you had matured a
> bit on trekkies, you'd gone off Douglas Adams.
No, not really. I've always been interested in voice synthesis, and the talking
door was only one of a number of things that I had around the place --
it went because time moved on and gnerally I got bored with stuff when it
was working properly.
I enjoyed the early Hitch-hikers book. I've got mixed feelings about the books
after the first Dirk Gently one. I suspect Neil had in mind that I went
off Douglas Adams fans after seeing a review in their magazine 'proving',
point by point, that The Light Fantastic was 'a rip-off' of Mostly Harmless.
Terry Pratchett
Alex Ridge
On Fri, 07 Jun 1996 22:38:21 +0100, Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org>
wrote:
>In article <06071996...@lspace.org>
> Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>
>> >> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
>> >> non-mickeysoft >:)
>> >
>> >Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
>>
>> Oh you mean your little toy which you're trading in for a PC >:)
>
>What's this 'trading in' malarky?
>
>I might be getting a new PC soon (got to make some money soon, and the
>PC market is bigger than the Acorn market), but the Acorn is staying
>(much nicer to program), as is the ST.
Ok, the Acorn I can understand, fine machines, but an ST?
>[Wildly off topic even for afp, so FU to poster]
I wasn't aware it was possible to go that far off topic on AFP.
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On Sat, 08 Jun 96 18:38:33 GMT, Malcolm Reid <mal...@sv.span.com>
wrote:
>>> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
>>> non-mickeysoft >:)
>>
>>Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
>>
>Ah, the one which (on my schools Arcs) takes even longer to load than my
>386 with just under 1000 fonts installed[1][2].
>[1] Okay, so maybe 1000 fonts is overkill. I do know someone with over 1500
>fonts on his PC. One day...
>[2] But then again, the networked PCs (allegedly 486 DX-50s) take 15 minutes
>to boot up and load Windows.
Are they ill? We have 286 disk-less workstations that boot from the
network that load faster than that (just).
Andy Fawcett
[I don't know why I'm bothering responding to this. Boredom, probably]
In article <834284...@sv.span.com>
Malcolm Reid <mal...@sv.span.com> wrote:
> In article <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> writes:
> >In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
> > Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
> >> non-mickeysoft >:)
> >
> >Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
> >
> Ah, the one which (on my schools Arcs) takes even longer to load than my
> 386 with just under 1000 fonts installed[1][2].
Strange that, since the OS doesn't need to *load*, since it's already in
memory (it runs from ROM. No, it doesn't download to RAM, it really does
run from ROM).
I'm at the desktop in less than ten seconds from cold, and that includes
the memory tests, and all the stuff a PC does from a cold boot (except
wind the clockwork up).
Anyway, if you want to discuss the merits of a PC over an Arc, don't
hesitate to mail me, since I use both on a regular basis. If it'll help
you out, I can tell you that I also use a VAX, several Un*x boxes and a
nice Alpha as well. And I still prefer the software on this thing for
ease of use.
[Followups to poster, although I really shouldn't bother]
> [2] But then again, the networked PCs (allegedly 486 DX-50s) take 15
> minutes to boot up and load Windows.
Then it's about time your school got a new Network Technician. My 486/33
at work can do that in less than two minute, and that's on a 100 user
net.
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You don't usually see that kind of behavior in a major appliance.
Andy Fawcett
In article <31bb4006...@news.dial.pipex.com>
Al...@dial.pipex.com (Alex Ridge) wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jun 1996 22:38:21 +0100, Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <06071996...@lspace.org>
> > Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh you mean your little toy which you're trading in for a PC >:)
> >
> >What's this 'trading in' malarky?
> >
> >I might be getting a new PC soon (got to make some money soon, and the
> >PC market is bigger than the Acorn market), but the Acorn is staying
> >(much nicer to program), as is the ST.
>
> Ok, the Acorn I can understand, fine machines, but an ST?
I've got to have something to use as a console for the Linux box when I
get it :-)
I bought it back in '86, not long after the first ROM based ones became
available. My course (at Teesside) involved programming the buggers in
an obscure multi-tasking language called RTL/2. I figured I would be
able to do some of the coursework at home. I figured wrong...
> >[Wildly off topic even for afp, so FU to poster]
>
> I wasn't aware it was possible to go that far off topic on AFP.
Okay, I'll go with that, but this time I'll adjust the Subject
accordingly...
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Roger Barnett
In article: <4452c...@tap.lspace.org> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> writes:
>
> I bought it back in '86, not long after the first ROM based ones became
> available. My course (at Teesside) involved programming the buggers in
> an obscure multi-tasking language called RTL/2. I figured I would be
> able to do some of the coursework at home. I figured wrong...
*cough* *splutter*
Oy sunshine, some of us still use RTL/2 (including a lot of air
traffic control system folk [i.e. those working on the boring systems
which don't have lots of interesting incidents]).
In fact some of us develop and sell RTL/2 products, but I wont
mention that in case anyone leaps to unjustified conclusions
of bias.
The obscurity of RTL/2 was/is due to:
- it was never sold in America;
- it is totally standard, no non-compliant compilers exist,
therefore no artificial controversy to pass on to the press;
- it restrains the overly ambitious programmer;
- its easy to learn and use;
- potential purchasers in the early '80s decided that the
language wouldn't be supported for much longer (some
of whom went to buy Oregon Pascal and others - hah!)
- oh, and it never got advertised or marketed properly
(but I'm sure thats not relevant).
So watch it, or I'll set John Barnes on you
(a man who could teach the dwarfs a thing or two about the
ballistic properties of the bread roll).
--
Roger "but I'm not bitter" Barnett
Sean Lewis
With wit and wisdom Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> wrote:
>[I don't know why I'm bothering responding to this. Boredom, probably]
>In article <834284...@sv.span.com>
> Malcolm Reid <mal...@sv.span.com> wrote:
>> In article <e1f16...@afawcett.demon.co.uk>
>> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> writes:
>> >In article <06061996...@lspace.org>
>> > Mark Lowes <Ham...@lspace.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ahh those were the days, software on rom, fast effcient,
>> >> non-mickeysoft >:)
>> >
>> >Ah, you mean like the OS round here ;-)
>> >
>> Ah, the one which (on my schools Arcs) takes even longer to load than my
>> 386 with just under 1000 fonts installed[1][2].
>Strange that, since the OS doesn't need to *load*, since it's already in
>memory (it runs from ROM. No, it doesn't download to RAM, it really does
>run from ROM).
>I'm at the desktop in less than ten seconds from cold, and that includes
>the memory tests, and all the stuff a PC does from a cold boot (except
>wind the clockwork up).
Ok but which type of imps does it use? ..... (or is it ants!)
Death! is natures way of saying ........ Slow Down!
Benjamin Hutchings
In article <949.6734...@mail.niederrhein.de>,
Eike Michael Lang <eike...@mail.niederrhein.de> wrote:
>
>On 06-Jun-96 18:09:42, ma...@monark.ftech.co.uk posted something in
>alt.fan.pratchett that looked like: Re: Talking Door
>>>...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
>>>EPROMs, but there you are!
>
>>If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
>>programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
>>remember the correct name.
>
>These ought (most likely) to be Static RAMs which will keep their contents
>almost indefinetely without any need for a refresh signal or anything, until
>they are overwritten again, you find these by the dozen in "memo pens", "memo
>calculators", and the like typically storing around 20 secs. of Sound. The
>above mentioned DIY-kits can be obtained from almost any electronic store
>(Such as Conrad, or Voelkner in Germany, there must be equivalents elsewhere).
Static RAM cannot be used for storing data without power. It requires rather
more power than Dynamic RAM. As you say, it does not require a refresh
signal, but it does still need to be powered. The only advantage of not
needing refresh is that it can be made rather faster than Dynamic RAM and
hence can be used for L2 cache. (Maybe L1 too - I don't know.) Perhaps you
are thinking of Flash RAM?
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NiceHair
On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Mark Burbidge wrote:
> In a message posted on Thu, 06 Jun 1996 16:24:12 +0100 to the
> newsgroup alt.fan.pratchett, Andy Fawcett wrote:
> >I mean, ROM producing has always been so expensive, and now we find
> >that Maplins do a kit that will let you do it easily...
> >
> >...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
> >EPROMs, but there you are!
>
> If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
> programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
> remember the correct name.
<fx:Kicks brain mercilessly>
erm... EPROM? "Eraseable, Programable Read Only Memory".
<fx:Looks around in disbelief>
Did I just say that? Oooo, I did remeber something at GCSE!
I think that you'll find that they are erased using some form of
invisable EM (UV, IR or X-rays).
Oh, and my appologies for yesterdays statement about the world dying. I
lied. My news reader just decided to put all the news for the 10th in the
middle of the news for the 5th and 6th...
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James Wilkinson
Andy Fawcett wrote:
> I mean, ROM producing has always been so expensive, and now we find
> that Maplins do a kit that will let you do it easily...
>
> ...I would have thought that it would have been easier to produce
> EPROMs, but there you are!
Mark Burbidge replied:
> If memory serves they're some sort of electrically erasable
> programmable chips. I made a mistake by calling them Roms - can't
> remember the correct name.
NiceHair (who is not going to be too pleased if I write his name 'Nice
Hair') wrote:
> <fx:Kicks brain mercilessly>
> erm... EPROM? "Eraseable, Programable Read Only Memory".
> <fx:Looks around in disbelief>
> Did I just say that? Oooo, I did remeber something at GCSE!
>
> I think that you'll find that they are erased using some form of
> invisable EM (UV, IR or X-rays).
Remember all these people with 'bingely bongely' Psion Series 3 range
machines on the group? Psion produce what pleases them to call 'Flash'
SSDs (Solid State Disks or memory cards), which are written to and
erased by higher voltages. They have the drawback that you can only
erase the whole SSD, not just part, although you can mark files as
'deleted'.
Interestingly, the box comes with descriptions in five languages, and
only the French are supposed to be computer-literate enough to
understand 'EPROM'.
I'm sure the Academie don't like ROM or any variant of it.
James.
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James Brokaw
In his/her own special way, NiceHair wrote:
> <fx:Kicks brain mercilessly>
> erm... EPROM? "Eraseable, Programable Read Only Memory".
> <fx:Looks around in disbelief>
> Did I just say that? Oooo, I did remeber something at GCSE!
>
> I think that you'll find that they are erased using some form of
> invisable EM (UV, IR or X-rays).
Not to sound like an utter idiot, but doesn't Read-Only mean it can't be
programmed or erased? Should it be RHCM (Really Hard to Change Memory)?
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In article <4pjs0h$1a...@mule1.mindspring.com>
hedg...@photobooks.atdc.gatech.edu "James Brokaw" writes:
> Not to sound like an utter idiot, but doesn't Read-Only mean it can't be
> programmed or erased? Should it be RHCM (Really Hard to Change Memory)?
It can't be altered during normal use. It requires erasing (via UV light for
an EPROM) and re-programming with an additional higher voltage. There is a
whole family of *ROM (ooh I felt an Acorn twinge then!) acronyms. e.g EAROM
(erasable, alterable ROM).
Mike
Andy Fawcett
In article <804058...@natron.demon.co.uk>
Roger Barnett <Ro...@natron.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article: <4452c...@tap.lspace.org> Andy Fawcett <t...@lspace.org> writes:
> >
> > I bought it back in '86, not long after the first ROM based ones became
> > available. My course (at Teesside) involved programming the buggers in
> > an obscure multi-tasking language called RTL/2. I figured I would be
> > able to do some of the coursework at home. I figured wrong...
>
>
> *cough* *splutter*
>
> Oy sunshine, some of us still use RTL/2 (including a lot of air
> traffic control system folk [i.e. those working on the boring systems
> which don't have lots of interesting incidents]).
I never said it wasn't a good language, it's just a bit on the obscure
side. Me, I like it a lot, but that's nothing to go by ;-)
> In fact some of us develop and sell RTL/2 products, but I wont
> mention that in case anyone leaps to unjustified conclusions
> of bias.
I've still got some of my coursework here on floppy. I did once get the
compiler to run in only one meg, but I've since mislaid the dongle and
that's really stuffed things.
> The obscurity of RTL/2 was/is due to:
> - it was never sold in America;
They are/were too interested in Ada...
> - it is totally standard, no non-compliant compilers exist,
> therefore no artificial controversy to pass on to the press;
A genuine benefit IMHO.
> - it restrains the overly ambitious programmer;
So use a bit of "CODE x,y ... *RTL;" construct[1] to bypass the
limitations.
> - its easy to learn and use;
We were taught most of the basics in a few weeks...
> - potential purchasers in the early '80s decided that the
> language wouldn't be supported for much longer (some
> of whom went to buy Oregon Pascal and others - hah!)
Mwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
> - oh, and it never got advertised or marketed properly
> (but I'm sure thats not relevant).
Wow, you've managed to re-cross this thread with itself. Back to Acorn
again...
> So watch it, or I'll set John Barnes on you
> (a man who could teach the dwarfs a thing or two about the
> ballistic properties of the bread roll).
But is bugger all use in an England shirt.
(and yes, I *do* know which John Barnes you mean...)
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[1] Handy that I've still got a copy of the RTL/2 Compiler User
Manual[2] here.
[2] Version 6.0 for VAX/VMS, PMDS-II/UNIX[3], ATARI ST/TOS
[3] I wonder if they ever did a Linux version...
Shaun Salter
On a yellow post-it note headed <4pdq2s$k...@curlew.mtx.net.au>, Medge
<me...@dove.mtx.net.au> pontificated:
>>
>>[1] Sorry, "Trekkers" Let's be politically correct here[2]
>
>[2] Trekkers are just trekkies who can't laugh at startrek jokes.
>
A: That is not logical Captain: Shipboard illumination is maintained by
directly exciting hadron particles by (insert technobabble here..)
pepper
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Frugal
NiceHair <pj...@le.ac.uk> writes:
><fx:Kicks brain mercilessly>
Leave the poor mans brain alone...
>erm... EPROM? "Eraseable, Programable Read Only Memory".
><fx:Looks around in disbelief>
>Did I just say that? Oooo, I did remeber something at GCSE!
>I think that you'll find that they are erased using some form of
>invisable EM (UV, IR or X-rays).
UV, you can use eproms as simple (low resolution) CCD cameras by prising the
top off of the chip and holding it up to the light. I am sure that you can
improve the quality by using a lens of some description.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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+ Demon, I shall fear no Windows, for my
fru...@wardrobe.demon.co.uk + Linux and my VFS shall comfort me...
Anders Henriksson
Mike <ze...@myth.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> hedg...@photobooks.atdc.gatech.edu "James Brokaw" writes:
>> Not to sound like an utter idiot, but doesn't Read-Only mean it can't be
>> programmed or erased? Should it be RHCM (Really Hard to Change Memory)?
>It can't be altered during normal use. It requires erasing (via UV light for
>an EPROM) and re-programming with an additional higher voltage.
Unless you step up to some versions of EEPROMs (Electrically Erasable
Programmable ROM), which IIRC can be reprogrammed with only 5 volts.
>There is a
>whole family of *ROM (ooh I felt an Acorn twinge then!) acronyms. e.g EAROM
>(erasable, alterable ROM).
Right, and then you have Flash-memory ....
<fx: walks around muttering for himself for the rest of the day>
/Anders
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- Death is nature's way of stopping talking to you ...
Mike
In article <Dt04o...@wardrobe.demon.co.uk>
fru...@wardrobe.demon.co.uk "Frugal" writes:
> UV, you can use eproms as simple (low resolution) CCD cameras by prising the
> top off of the chip and holding it up to the light. I am sure that you can
> improve the quality by using a lens of some description.
More of a stills camera really. Use an old 4164 dynamic ram chip with it's
lid sliced off. Shame it has a big black line across the middle.
Mike
Terry Pratchett
In article <Dt04o...@wardrobe.demon.co.uk>
> UV, you can use eproms as simple (low resolution) CCD cameras by prising the
> top off of the chip and holding it up to the light. I am sure that you can
> improve the quality by using a lens of some description.
I did that, too. I had a ZX81 that could just about distinguish
between a cross and a circle. Useless, really...
Terry Pratchett
Benjamin Hutchings
In article <834957...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
Let me guess, it was supposed to play noughts and crosses on paper, right?
Hmm, utterly useless, but an excellent hack!
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Lee Staniforth
In article <4q4bqh$5...@news.ox.ac.uk>, Benjamin Hutchings
<worc...@sable.ox.ac.uk> writes
>In article <834957...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
>Terry Pratchett <Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I did that, too. I had a ZX81 that could just about distinguish
>>between a cross and a circle. Useless, really...
>Hmm, utterly useless, but an excellent hack!
"WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
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Instruments.
Terry Pratchett
In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
"HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
...after all, I'm known to be word perfect on every book, movie and comic
every produced, right? :-)
Terry Pratchett
Richard Martin
Terry Pratchett wrote:
> In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
> > "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
> "HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
[trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
[Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
frodo =)
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Richard Martin
Hrm. My first Chris Taylor wrote:
> A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
> Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
Arg. The Computing Disciplines Facility at UofT names theirs for
Hitchhiker's Guide things [the two servers are Eddie and Marvin], and
my first INDY was Zen. Hrm.
I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
to type into hostname indices.
Chris Taylor
In message <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com> Richard Martin wrote:
> Terry Pratchett wrote:
> > In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
> > l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
> > > "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
> > "HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
> "WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME OF CHESS? I PLAY VERY WELL."
>
> [trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
WOPR
> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
[1] Any takers? They're pretty easy, really.
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Andy Fawcett
In article <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com>
Richard Martin <rma...@aw.sgi.com> wrote:
> Terry Pratchett wrote:
> > In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
> > l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
> > > "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
> > "HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
> "WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME OF CHESS? I PLAY VERY WELL."
>
> [trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
YM "WOPR". HTH.
> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
Probably quite high, but I am not going to go round searching...
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In article <835310...@unseen.demon.co.uk>, Terry Pratchett
<Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
>
>> "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
>
>"HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
>
>every produced, right? :-)
>
>Terry Pratchett
Fischerandom version? ;-)
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Lee Staniforth
In article <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com>, Richard Martin
<rma...@aw.sgi.com> writes
[Sorry, Richard, but there's a problem with my newsreader, so I'm adding
onto your message for this]
>Terry Pratchett wrote:
>> In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
>> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
>> > "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
>> "HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
>"WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME OF CHESS? I PLAY VERY WELL."
Yep. Well done, Terry. However, I can't see if you've mentioned the name
of the film... (8^)
>
>[trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
>
'sfunny, because I couldn't either. However, you've just jogged my
memory: Joshua.
>Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
>[Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
No, I call mine Sadie, but that's just me leading a sheltered life (8^)
(With the advent of Win95, how many are now called 'Mike' - My Computer
?)
Lee Staniforth
In article <19960621....@sati.sati.demon.co.uk>, Chris Taylor
<c...@sati.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>WOPR
>
.. and Joshua (8^)
>> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
>> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
>
>A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
>Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
>
>[1] Any takers? They're pretty easy, really.
A felloe Heinlein reader, perchance ?
barry_r
Richard Martin <rma...@aw.sgi.com> wrote:
<Snip>
>[trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
Joshua IIRC
>frodo =)
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NO! Don't shake hands
BOOM
Colette Reap
Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
<trying to remember the name of the machine in Wargames>
>'sfunny, because I couldn't either. However, you've just jogged my
>memory: Joshua.
>
I thought that was the password into the machine - the machine itself
being called WOPR - yes?
----
Colette
Chris Taylor
Yes, it was called WOPR. Stood for War Operations Planned Response, AFAICR.
The password was actually Joshua5, the name of the designer's son and his
age when he died.
Why do I remember this rubbish? Must be at least five years since I saw
the film.
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Lorelei
Actually I think the password was Joshua5-that being the age of the guy's
son when he died or something. That may have just been in the book
though rather than the film.
Jackie
On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Colette Reap wrote:
> Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <trying to remember the name of the machine in Wargames>
> >'sfunny, because I couldn't either. However, you've just jogged my
> >memory: Joshua.
> >
> I thought that was the password into the machine - the machine itself
> being called WOPR - yes?
>
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>
>
Midnight Tree Bandit
Sometime in the last week or so, Chris Taylor was seen stating:
>In message <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com> Richard Martin wrote:
>> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
>> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
>A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
>Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
We have eight servers in our network. The Novell servers are George, Jane,
Judy, Henry, and Rosie. The DG/UX machine is Astro, and the Unixware/Oracle
server is Spacely. The Prime supermini was used to have was known on the
network (before it died) as Dino. Only half a ppoint for those sources. A
full ppoint for why our communications servers are names Oprah, Uma, and Teri,
and the router Biff.
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Steph Taylor
Terry Pratchett <Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
>
>> "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
>"HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
>...after all, I'm known to be word perfect on every book, movie and comic
>every produced, right? :-)
>
>Terry Pratchett
Well, if you ain't, I want all my money back, y'bastard!. :o)))))))))))
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Jeff Lipton
Midnight Tree Bandit wrote:
> We have eight servers in our network. The Novell servers are George, Jane,
> Judy, Henry, and Rosie. The DG/UX machine is Astro, and the Unixware/Oracle
> server is Spacely.
These are, of course, the main characters from The Jetsons.
> The Prime supermini was used to have was known on the
> network (before it died) as Dino.
The "dino-dog" from The Flintstones.
> Only half a ppoint for those sources. A
> full ppoint for why our communications servers are names Oprah, Uma, and Teri,
> and the router Biff.
>
"Oprah, Uma. Uma, Oprah." was a running joke on the Late Night with David Letterman
show for about a week after the same joke died at the Oscars. Biff Henderson is the
Stage Manager (and portrayer of many silly jokes) for the show. I don't know how Teri
(Hatcher? Letteman's girlfriend) fits into this..
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Midnight Tree Bandit
Sometime in the last week or so, Jeff Lipton was seen stating:
>These are, of course, the main characters from The Jetsons.
*bing*
>> The Prime supermini was used to have was known on the
>> network (before it died) as Dino.
>The "dino-dog" from The Flintstones.
*bing*
>"Oprah, Uma. Uma, Oprah." was a running joke on the Late Night with David Letterman
>show for about a week after the same joke died at the Oscars. Biff Henderson is the
>Stage Manager (and portrayer of many silly jokes) for the show. I don't know how Teri
>(Hatcher? Letteman's girlfriend) fits into this..
*bing*bing*bing*bing* Teri Garr, one of Dave's favorite female guests, is the
last. But I think that when the next comm server arrives, I must name her
Drew (Barrymore).
I loved his presentation of the Oscars. He did a great job of puncturing the
pretnesion surrounding the awards show. Which, of course, is exactly why so
many at the Academy disliked it.
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Peter van den Boogert
> > Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
> Hitchhiker's Guide things [the two servers are Eddie and Marvin], and
> my first INDY was Zen. Hrm.
> I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
> to type into hostname indices.
Here at the Infolab, we have two series:
mars, eos, swift, iris, and
asterix, getafix, idefix, obelix and nestorix.
-Peter
Rob Vines
In <31CB38...@aw.sgi.com> Richard writes:
> Hrm. My first Chris Taylor wrote:
> > A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
> > Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
> Arg. The Computing Disciplines Facility at UofT names theirs for
> Hitchhiker's Guide things [the two servers are Eddie and Marvin], and
> my first INDY was Zen. Hrm.
>
> I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
> to type into hostname indices.
>
When I worked at Westinghouse[1], the VAX cluster had computers named
Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Karl.
[1] Many moons ago, so don't bother trying to finger anyone at
karl.westinghouse.com. It won't work.
Rob Vines vi...@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu
the dictionary says heretic a holder of an unorthodox opinion
do you know anybody who isn t a heretic
i don t -- archy the cockroach
Leigh Rooney
In article <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com>,
Richard Martin <rma...@aw.sgi.com> writes:
>Terry Pratchett wrote:
>> In article <EWfGwRAH...@roogna.demon.co.uk>
>> l...@roogna.demon.co.uk "Lee Staniforth" writes:
>> > "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
>> "HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
>
>
Well, the Nought's and Crosses & chess playing program was called Joshua (after
Professor Falken's son), and the big military computer was called W.O.P.R
standing for, err, umm, thingy :-)
We are now at DefCon 4, that is 4 days till the con...
See you there,
Leigh
: Leigh "Runes" Rooney : `Luck is my middle name,' said :
: Computer Systems Engineering : Rincewind, indistinctly. `Mind :
: University of Warwick : you, my first name is Bad.' :
: e-mail es...@csv.warwick.ac.uk : (Terry Pratchett - Interesting Times) :
--
: Leigh "Runes" Rooney : `Luck is my middle name,' said :
: Computer Systems Engineering : Rincewind, indistinctly. `Mind :
: University of Warwick : you, my first name is Bad.' :
: e-mail es...@csv.warwick.ac.uk : (Terry Pratchett - Interesting Times) :
Robert K.J. Leon
> >
> >[trying to remember the name of the machine from Wargames]
> >
>
> 'sfunny, because I couldn't either. However, you've just jogged my
> memory: Joshua.
>
I have a vague feeling that the name of the machine in the film
'Wargames' was WOPA. However, 'Joshua' was the backdoor password wasn't
it?
--
Bob Leon,
e-mail: rl...@acorn5.demon.co.uk
Gipsy: A person who is willing to tell your fortune for a small portion
of it.
Johnathan Geoffrey HUGHES
Midnight Tree Bandit (mtba...@rmond.mindspring.com) wrote:
: We have eight servers in our network. The Novell servers are George, Jane,
: Judy, Henry, and Rosie. The DG/UX machine is Astro, and the Unixware/Oracle
: server is Spacely. The Prime supermini was used to have was known on the
: network (before it died) as Dino. Only half a ppoint for those sources. A
: full ppoint for why our communications servers are names Oprah, Uma, and Teri,
: and the router Biff.
At our university, the undergraduate and postgraduate 'net machines are,
respectively, "Laurel" and "Hardy". The Computing department, however, has
their machines named after disasters[1] - Titanic[2], Pompeii, Krakatoa . .
--
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[1] This is asking for trouble.
[2] Somewhat ironically, Titanic crashed on its first day of operation
because it failed to connect properly with another machine, "Iceberg". The
university newspaper, Arena, printed a story leading with "Titanic sinks on
maiden voyage - this time because it *didn't* interface with iceberg!
Kirrily Robert
Chris Taylor (c...@sati.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In message <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com> Richard Martin wrote:
:
: > Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
: > [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
: A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
: Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
: [1] Any takers? They're pretty easy, really.
Look at my hostname. My housemate is going to have Dora. My other
(future) housemate is having Minerva. When I have enough moolah for a
second machine, it will be Mycroft, and athene will take up her proper
role of running the household.
Skud
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"Being a sex radical means being defiant as well as deviant" - Pat Califia
James Brokaw
Georgia Tech seems to have a thing for cartoons - Acme, Coyote, Kaboom,
Roadrunner[1], and, erm, a few others I can't remember.
Photobooks doesn't run anything other than the standard names[1] but
they've taped the names of small rodents to each computer workstation, if
that counts.
--
\\\\\ ----> hedg...@photobooks.com <----
\\\\\\\__o Bringing hedgehogs to the common folk since 1994.
__\\\\\\\'/________________________________________________________
[1] Don't think that one runs anyone, tho'.
[2] photobooks.com, www.*, ftp.*.
ja...@aardnet.demon.co.uk
Richard Martin <rma...@aw.sgi.com> wrote:
>I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
>to type into hostname indices.
...but not as bad as a friends idea of naming one of Bradford
Universities Novell servers after Groo-the-wanderer.
Alas, it has been superceded long since.
This .sig left unintentionally blank.
Joni Johnson
In article <4qmeo9$b...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Rob Vines <VI...@UIMRL3.MRL.UIUC.EDU> wrote:
>In <31CB38...@aw.sgi.com> Richard writes:
>
>>
>> I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
>> to type into hostname indices.
>>
>Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Karl.
By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
We have oldp (for Old Peculier), dragon (Dragon Stout), singha, fosters, duff,
plus lots of local beers. The workstation for the undergrads is named
Sharps, for a no-alcohol beer.
The Planetary Science Institute in Arizona names theirs after monsters.
Joni
[1] well, what do you expect from Wisconsin?
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Vorpal Bunny(TM)
Our servers are gamera, mothra, rodan, forbin, hydra, and kong.
At one time, they were actually amusing. There are still professors
who've been here for over a decade who still don't understand why
the servers are named like that.
One of my friends named a print server "Pagemaster" after that
Macaulay Culkin movie. This was soley due to the fact that he got
a free "Pagemaster" poster from Burger King.
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Racal research had (in 1986) its servers called "Lurch", "Parker",
and "Jeeves".
All the best!
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jsi...@vnet.ibm.com
>Midnight Tree Bandit (mtba...@rmond.mindspring.com) wrote:
>
>: We have eight servers in our network. The Novell servers are George, Jane,
>: Judy, Henry, and Rosie. The DG/UX machine is Astro, and the Unixware/Oracle
>: server is Spacely. The Prime supermini was used to have was known on the
>: network (before it died) as Dino. Only half a ppoint for those sources. A
>: full ppoint for why our communications servers are names Oprah, Uma, and Teri,
>: and the router Biff.
>
>At our university, the undergraduate and postgraduate 'net machines are,
>respectively, "Laurel" and "Hardy". The Computing department, however, has
>their machines named after disasters[1] - Titanic[2], Pompeii, Krakatoa . .
In repsonse to the sterling performance by our lads
in white (in case you are living in a box, i mean the
England Football team), we're naming 11 new machines
here after the eleven of the players - Shearer, Teddy,
Gazza, etc.
Jim Siddle
jsi...@vnet.ibm.com
Midnight Tree Bandit
>...but not as bad as a friends idea of naming one of Bradford
>Universities Novell servers after Groo-the-wanderer.
>Alas, it has been superceded long since.
Not surprised. Who'd want to name a server "Mendicant"?
Mike Knell
Chris Taylor <ch...@sati.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <31cd6a70...@news.demon.co.uk> Colette Reap wrote:
>
> > Lee Staniforth <l...@roogna.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > <trying to remember the name of the machine in Wargames>
> > >memory: Joshua.
> > >
> > being called WOPR - yes?
>
>
> The password was actually Joshua5, the name of the designer's son and his
> age when he died.
In the book, I believe. The film (which somehow dropped into the VCR a
couple of weeks back.. funny that..) just has Joshua. Evidently the people
who made the film weren't so concerned about people running 'crack' on the
WOPR's password file. Though as it was a backdoor password, we can presume
that Falken actually went to the trouble to patch the code and rebuild
/bin/login, so no trouble with darn NORAD people finding it and taking it out.
Though I doubt the WOPR ran Unix. (But just as well it didn't run Windows -
remember what all the missiles would do if the WOPR went down?)
Mike "General Protection Fault. Launching ICBMs." Knell
--
Mike Knell [ISTP] - m...@bofh.lspace.org - "Gronda Gronda Rangdo!"
"The computer fletely, mouse and all". - C. Luser Dodgson
Mike Knell
Sigmund Freud <pa...@bombsite.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4qikh7$j...@anarchy.io.com>, Midnight Tree Bandit <mtbandit@r
> mond.mindspring.com> writes
> >>> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
> >>> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
> >
> >>A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
> >>Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
> >
> Robert Gordon Uni's got a server called "Roadkill" (the mind boggles)
>
> And Leicester Uni's got hawk, falcon and robin.
Nottingham Uni CS has robin as well (it's the first year student machine)
but as part of a completely different naming scheme.. no prizes for guessing
what..
I think ukc use birds as well (they certainly had merlin/harrier/raven a few
years ago..).
ISTR that the most used hostname is something like 'mars'. From the Internet
Domain Survey:
Top 50 Host Names [not including names like pc01, mac5, etc.]
75743 www 2532 test 1548 orion 1296 neptune 1027 homer
11532 ns 2272 venus 1547 server 1213 bbs 1018 falcon
11520 ftp 2052 pluto 1474 gopher 1194 mac 996 athena
10125 mail 2023 mars 1438 iris 1151 admin 992 calvin
8629 user 2005 cisco 1412 hub 1124 hermes 971 fred
4444 router 1912 zeus 1351 gate 1112 newton 965 titan
4120 news 1834 jupiter 1351 dns 1080 phoenix 960 snoopy
3199 gateway 1705 mercury 1334 eagle 1062 thor 954 earth
3072 gw 1638 saturn 1325 apollo 1048 merlin 924 sirius
2604 mailhost 1599 alpha 1314 smtp 1041 demo 916 gandalf
Ah, right -- apart from the obvious generic names like 'www' it's actually
venus which is the most popula hostname. Unfortunately, 'hex' doesn't make
the top 50..
Mike
Nathan Fenenga Yospe
: Our servers are gamera, mothra, rodan, forbin, hydra, and kong.
: At one time, they were actually amusing. There are still professors
: who've been here for over a decade who still don't understand why
: the servers are named like that.
: One of my friends named a print server "Pagemaster" after that
: Macaulay Culkin movie. This was soley due to the fact that he got
: a free "Pagemaster" poster from Burger King.
At the observatory where I work...well, here my works ends up, anyhows,
they named the computer systems after various marine life. My own fleet, I
named after famous physicists....the ones I run for the physics dept.
My personal systems, though? Heh. I've always been a secret fan of the
transformers comic. I'm off of Optimus Prime right now. Megatron is over
there... an obsolete system reconfigured to think its a Linux machine.
Bumblebee is a printer.
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Hazz 2000
piece of coherrent info by Rob Vines <VI...@UIMRL3.MRL.UIUC.EDU>
>> > Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
>> Hitchhiker's Guide things [the two servers are Eddie and Marvin], and
>> my first INDY was Zen. Hrm.
>>
>> to type into hostname indices.
>>
>When I worked at Westinghouse[1], the VAX cluster had computers named
>Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Karl.
The Machine I'm working on has been named The Beast (Unoriginal, I know)
'cos it's tied down with millions of wires (you _don't_ want to know
what I've got plugged in to it), it's a moody sod, and I'ts bigger than
any other home PC I've ever seen. It's predecessor was called Spud, and
SOD!! later on as I overloaded it totally. The Network at school has
been named Eeny Meeny Miney Mo, as it's the only way you can guess which
station is going to pack in next. My dream Computer is called Spider,
but only because of it's topology (Cyrixx 200PC 256Mb RAM->Amiga4000 +
Raptor Plus or Screamer (not the games) and some very expensive
peripherals. Oh yes, I'm also bulding CREATURE RCP (Complete Remote
Electronic Automatic Thinking Un-manned Reconnosence Explorer Robot
Control Program) I think CREATURE can be beaten on it's daftness, but
not on blatant overegging of the pudding..
--
Harry French hazz...@variance.demon.co.uk
"I'm the lightning that strikes you, just before you hear the Thunder"
Hugh Davies
>By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
>We have oldp
NIL
(This is an obscure LISP joke. Sorry. I couldn't resist.)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Hugh J.E. Davies, Bedfordshire, England.
"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
Johnathan Geoffrey HUGHES
<long description of names snipped for the sake of bandwidth but much
appreciated anyway>
In our family we have a bad habit of upgrading to a new system without
removing the old one. As a result, we have three main PC's('586, '386 and
XT), plus a '486 notebook and a network printer. Names, for the Biblically
literate:
'586: Goliath
'386: David
Notebook: Slingshot
Printer: Psalms
XT: Mephibosheth.
One free Chupa Chup to anyone who can explain why Mephibosheth is an
appropriate name for an XT!
Michael Fuller
>In our family we have a bad habit of upgrading to a new system without
>removing the old one. As a result, we have three main PC's('586, '386 and
>XT), plus a '486 notebook and a network printer. Names, for the Biblically
>literate:
>'586: Goliath
>'386: David
>Notebook: Slingshot
>Printer: Psalms
>XT: Mephibosheth.
>One free Chupa Chup to anyone who can explain why Mephibosheth is an
>appropriate name for an XT!
'cos it's a cripple? Nah, can't be that, otherwise they'd all be named
Mephibosheth, in which case I guess that you must let it eat at the table.
Michael
The Fat Aardvark
Terry Pratchett <Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> "WANT TO PLAY A GAME ?" [2 ppoints] [1]
>
>"HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?"
>
>...after all, I'm known to be word perfect on every book, movie and comic
>every produced, right? :-)
"No, I want to play GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR" [1]
Thanks :)
[1] Hang on, you have done that too... Adam and The Them, step
forward....
--
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|I am glad I have true friends" |
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Hannes Reinecke
Rob> In <31CB38...@aw.sgi.com> Richard writes:
>> Hrm. My first Chris Taylor wrote: > A Sun network I used to
>> administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly, > Mike[1], and (dare I
>> say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option. Arg. The Computing
>> Disciplines Facility at UofT names theirs for Hitchhiker's Guide
>> things [the two servers are Eddie and Marvin], and my first INDY
>> was Zen. Hrm.
>>
>> I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain to
>> type into hostname indices.
>>
Rob> When I worked at Westinghouse[1], the VAX cluster had computers
Rob> named Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Karl.
<delurks>
Nope.
slartibartfast is it.
Or even quordlupleen.
Best name for admin machines; nobody will ever be able to spell those
correctly.
(okay, real reason being we run out of normel HHGTTG names ... )
-hannes
<lurk resumed>
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|
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Hazz 2000
a piece of coherrent info by Hugh Davies <hu...@axalotl.demon.co.uk>
>In article <4qrgkk$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, j...@uwast.astro.wisc.edu (Joni
>Johnson) writes:
>
>>By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
>>We have oldp
>
>NIL
>(This is an obscure LISP joke. Sorry. I couldn't resist.)
(Far too regular joke about Gates' programming)
>-------------------------------------------------------------
> Hugh J.E. Davies, Bedfordshire, England.
>"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
Hazz 2000
piece of coherrent info by Johnathan Geoffrey HUGHES
<jhu...@hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au>
>Hazz 2000 (hazz...@variance.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
><long description of names snipped for the sake of bandwidth but much
>appreciated anyway>
>
>removing the old one. As a result, we have three main PC's('586, '386 and
>XT), plus a '486 notebook and a network printer. Names, for the Biblically
>literate:
>'586: Goliath
>'386: David
>Notebook: Slingshot
>Printer: Psalms
>XT: Mephibosheth.
>
>One free Chupa Chup to anyone who can explain why Mephibosheth is an
>appropriate name for an XT!
Mepythingy could only take 20Mb?
Mepythingy could only take 5 1/4"? (*ooh* that sucked...)
>--
>
> Johnathan G. Hughes Esq mailto:jhu...@hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au
> http://hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au/~jhughes
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> Amazing love! How can it be -
> That thou, my God, shouldst die for me!
With my present comments in RE at school, I may die for god...
(crucified by the teachers! I'm a Martyr...)
Jean Lamb
string in a certain way and have runners take it around--and it'd mean
"Elvis spotted on the Grand Pyramid!"
>GRA...@BRAVO.aston.ac.uk (GRANTMS) wrote:
>called thingy.aston.ac.uk... - but my favourite is the mail router called
>quipu. Half a knowledge point for anyone who knows why.
> ttfn,
> Mchl Grnt
> (founder, alt.fan.alt-fan-pratchett)
Jean Lamb, tla...@gp.magick.net
From where men are men, women are scarce, and the sheep
are lying tramps.
Stig M. Valstad
>Hazz 2000 (hazz...@variance.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
><long description of names snipped for the sake of bandwidth but much
>appreciated anyway>
>
>In our family we have a bad habit of upgrading to a new system without
>removing the old one. As a result, we have three main PC's('586, '386 and
>XT), plus a '486 notebook and a network printer. Names, for the Biblically
>literate:
>'586: Goliath
>'386: David
>Notebook: Slingshot
>Printer: Psalms
>XT: Mephibosheth.
>
never had a chance against David. The slingshot has the range
and stopping power of a Colt 45 if it is used by someone who
knows how to use it, while Goliath only had short range weapons.
Who would you bet on? The small guy with the gun or the big guy
with the knife?
BTW, my Linux box is called Leng.
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Stig M. Valstad
>In article <4qrgkk$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, j...@uwast.astro.wisc.edu (Joni Johnson) writes:
>
>>By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
>>We have oldp
>
>NIL
>
>(This is an obscure LISP joke. Sorry. I couldn't resist.)
youngp [1]
[1] Ooops, a one line follow up.
Hazz 2000
a piece of coherrent info by jsi...@vnet.ibm.com
_don't_ use gareth as a preference, it'll only screw it up.
Hugh Davies
>In repsonse to the sterling performance by our lads
>in white (in case you are living in a box, i mean the
>England Football team), we're naming 11 new machines
>here after the eleven of the players - Shearer, Teddy,
>Gazza, etc.
Perhaps you should omit Southgate?
Sue Mitchell
<hu...@axalotl.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <4qqvvv$r...@zen.hursley.ibm.com>, jsi...@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>
>>In repsonse to the sterling performance by our lads
>>in white (in case you are living in a box, i mean the
>>England Football team), we're naming 11 new machines
>>here after the eleven of the players - Shearer, Teddy,
>>Gazza, etc.
>
>Perhaps you should omit Southgate?
How unkind! At least he had the guts to try :-)
Love, Sue
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
> Hugh J.E. Davies, Bedfordshire, England.
>"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
>
>
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~~ ~~
OrionCA
says...
>
>Yes, it was called WOPR. Stood for War Operations Planned Response, AFAICR.
>
>The password was actually Joshua5, the name of the designer's son and his
>age when he died.
>
>the film.
>
>--
> _____
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>/____ / / / ' / __\ MacroLife * | but having opinions is an art.
> ch...@sati.demon.co.uk * * * | - Charles McCabe
"Ray, that's why you're such a sad and lonely guy..." - From "The REAL
Ghostbusters", cartoon series, circa late 1980s.
Gabriel Krabbe
> Johnathan Hughes writes:
> >In our family we have a bad habit of upgrading to a new system without
> >removing the old one. As a result, we have three main PC's('586, '386 and
> >XT), plus a '486 notebook and a network printer. Names, for the Biblically
> >literate:
> >'586: Goliath
> >'386: David
> >Notebook: Slingshot
> >Printer: Psalms
> >XT: Mephibosheth.
>
> >One free Chupa Chup to anyone who can explain why Mephibosheth is an
> >appropriate name for an XT!
>
> 'cos it's a cripple? Nah, can't be that, otherwise they'd all be named
> Mephibosheth, in which case I guess that you must let it eat at the table.
>
i think the answer lies in 2 sam 9, verses 6 and 7
in king james' version:
6 now when meshibosheth, the son of jonathan, the
son of saul, was come unto david, he fell on his
face and did reverence. and david said,
mephibosheth. and he answered, behold thy servant!
7 and david said unto him, fear not, for i will
surely show thee kindness for jonathan thy father's
sake, and will restore thee all the land of saul
thy father; and thou shalt eat bread at my table
continually.
abbreviated version:
the xt was your first 'puter, and your name's
jo(h)nathan, so your son was called mephibosheth.
probably doesn't have much to do with the 386 being
kind to the xt :)
you wouldn't have a father called saul? :)
Gabriel
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Kate Nepveu
: Richard Martin <rma...@aw.sgi.com> wrote:
: >I had Tigana, then Arbonne, but Al-Rassan is going to be a pain
: >to type into hostname indices.
<unlurk>
No Fionavar?
<resume lurk>
Hazz 2000
My daft filing system says <4r5740$3...@news.liberty.com> is actually a
piece of coherrent info by OrionCA <ori...@liberty.com>
Tony Finch
In article <4qul0f$c...@axalotl.demon.co.uk>,
Hugh Davies <hu...@axalotl.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4qrgkk$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, j...@uwast.astro.wisc.edu (Joni Johnson) writes:
>
> >By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
> >We have oldp
>
> NIL
>
> (This is an obscure LISP joke. Sorry. I couldn't resist.)
Splitp soup?
FTony.
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Hugh Davies
In article <4r73iu$s...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, fa...@thor.cam.ac.uk (Tony Finch) writes:
>In article <4qul0f$c...@axalotl.demon.co.uk>,
>Hugh Davies <hu...@axalotl.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <4qrgkk$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, j...@uwast.astro.wisc.edu (Joni Johnson) writes:
>>
>> >By popular vote, we decided to name our workstations after beers. [1]
>> >We have oldp
>>
>> NIL
>>
>> (This is an obscure LISP joke. Sorry. I couldn't resist.)
>
>Splitp soup?
T.
Aha! I'm glad *someone* knew what I was talking about!
Jonathan R Williamson (3X0S)
Mike Knell (m...@bofh.lspace.org) wrote:
: In article <I1D5NLAt...@bombsite.demon.co.uk>,
: Sigmund Freud <pa...@bombsite.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: > In article <4qikh7$j...@anarchy.io.com>, Midnight Tree Bandit <mtbandit@r
: > mond.mindspring.com> writes
: > >>> Wondering how the name "hex" rates among most-used hostnames.
: > >>> [Compared to, say, Wintermute, Hal, Data, and Neuromancer?]
: > >>A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
: > >>Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
: > Dundee Uni's got Kanga and several other aamilne characters
: > Robert Gordon Uni's got a server called "Roadkill" (the mind boggles)
: >
: > And Leicester Uni's got hawk, falcon and robin.
: Nottingham Uni CS has robin as well (it's the first year student machine)
: but as part of a completely different naming scheme.. no prizes for guessing
: what..
: I think ukc use birds as well (they certainly had merlin/harrier/raven a few
: years ago..).
In york architecture seems quite popular (presumably because of the
lovely buildings we have).
Our mail machine is minster, then there's tower, castle, manor.
other machines include bill & ben, tweedledee & tweedledum.
At National Power there seems to be two trends. Star systems and
elements. I suppose it represents the chemical nature of many
people working there.
Jon
John Fouhy
In article <4r2159$e...@hasle.sn.no>, Stig M. Valstad <sval...@sn.no> wrote:
> Who would you bet on? The small guy with the gun or the big guy
> with the knife?
The hero of the story. :-)
If the big guy with the knife has narrative causality on his side the
small guy with the gun will be briefly distracted so the big guy can
throw the knife and knock the gun away, at which point he will attack and
discover that the small guy is a martial arts expert. :-)
-=)> John <(=-
Bugsy
On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Sigmund Freud wrote:
<lots snipped>
> And Leicester Uni's got hawk, falcon and robin.
> Nowt special there, but another sysadmin there got a server and named it
> after another silly bird.
> It's called Cleopatra.
> That was his excuse, anyways...
Hmmm seems a strange topic to delurk on but anyway..you get that.
James Cook Uni In Townsville, Australia, names it's servers after
fish...well marine things anyway. The main servers include sailfish,
swordfish, marlin, groper, lionfish, crab, with various other servers
having names like (marine creature with 7a tenticles), hook, manta oh and
the main print server is cuttle...guess you can excuse them, considering
the uni's best known for it's degree in marine biology.
Reguards
Bugsy
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Toby Haynes
In article <19960621....@sati.sati.demon.co.uk>,
Chris Taylor <c...@sati.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <31CAEC...@aw.sgi.com> Richard Martin wrote:
>A Sun network I used to administer used Hal. Also Zen, Orac, Holly,
>Mike[1], and (dare I say it) Eddie. Minerva[1] was an option.
>[1] Any takers? They're pretty easy, really.
Zen??
Orac - Blake 7?
Holly - Red Dwarf
Mike?!
Eddie - Hitch Hikers Guide to th***SLAM***[1]
And Minerva?
Yours,
Toby
[1] General Pratchettion fault - name not allowed ;-)
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