Straight Pool (14.1) DVD's?
David The Hamster Malone
playing any game of pool, so I'd like to play some straight pool. My
problem is that I don't know anyone in my area that actually plays
straight pool...
What I'd like to do is buy a couple of 14.1 DVD's (my VCR has been
mothballed) that illustrate how to handle the transition phase of
getting from one rack to the next. I don't mean 'teaching' dvd's I'd
prefer to see actual matches.
Anyone have any recommendations? I did a search and saw Accustats has
some from the last US Open 14.1 matches - any good ones there I should
be looking at? Are there certain players I should be emulating?
Thanks...
David "The Hamster" Malone
Ghosst
> My problem is that I don't know anyone in my area that actually plays
> straight pool...
[snip]
> Are there certain players I should be emulating?
Me, me, pick me!! Pick me!!
ohh, I live about a 4 hour flight away ... but, we gots beer down here in
the country...
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Ghosst.
Ed McCune
guys who play pool. I'm being straight with you here.
Ed
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
Billy
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
Sigel...How to play 8ball, 9ball, and straight. He shows you how to go
from one rack to another and what type of english to use in breaking up
the rack and leaving an open shot.
Matches to look for and buy on
DVD...Sigel/Rempe...Archer/Carter...Sigel/Zuglan (a must!)
Crane/Balsis...Mosconi/Crane...Sigel/Mizerak. Doesn't get much
better than those.
.............................Billy
David The Hamster Malone
Billy wrote:
> You probably should start with an instructional tape. VHS...Mike
> Sigel...How to play 8ball, 9ball, and straight. He shows you how to go
> from one rack to another and what type of english to use in breaking up
> the rack and leaving an open shot.
I threw away my VHS player - is it available on DVD? I suppose I could
have it converted but the quality on the tapes I've converted in the
past has been poor.
David "The Hamster" Malone
David The Hamster Malone
Ghosst wrote:
> > Are there certain players I should be emulating?
>
> Me, me, pick me!! Pick me!!
To emulate? Lol. Or are you willing to show me how to play straight
pool?
> ohh, I live about a 4 hour flight away ... but, we gots beer down here in
> the country...
I bet we've got more beer down here... and if we run out, there's
always Gideon's beer fridge with the pumps.
David "The Hamster" Malone
Ghosst
can sample the local breweries selection. I'm fairly sure we won't run out.
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David The Hamster Malone
Ed McCune wrote:
> What? Everyone in TO is GAY!!! Come out to Calgary. We have straight
> guys who play pool. I'm being straight with you here.
Let's get this straight... I ain't going anywhere on a plane unless I
absolutely have to.
And, yes, everyone in Toronto is gay... even the Mayor is on a float
every year in the annual gay parade....
OTOH, did I mention I live in Scaborough?
David "The straight Hamster" Malone
Ghosst
> OTOH, did I mention I live in Scaborough?
I wouldn't admit that out loud if I was you.
---
Ghosst (escaped the big city years ago).
David The Hamster Malone
Ghosst wrote:
> > OTOH, did I mention I live in Scarborough?
>
> I wouldn't admit that out loud if I was you.
It may be the murder, drugs, racism, prostitution, and petty crime
capital of the country, but it's home sweet home to me...
David "The Hamster" Malone
Billy
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
> I threw away my VHS player - is it available on DVD? I suppose I could
> have it converted but the quality on the tapes I've converted in the
> past has been poor.
>
> David "The Hamster" Malone
It didn't used to be available on DVD. Maybe it is now, or someone can
copy it from VHS to DVD. I have it in VHS, but I don't have a machine
that will convert it.
..................................Billy
Ed McCune
have somewhere for my pet..er...hamster to live...
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Ed The Plonked Mccune
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
Ed McCune
but he didn believe me.
Oh My God...I sound like...
Ed The Reformed Reformer McCune
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
> And, yes, everyone in Toronto is gay... even the Mayor is on a float
> every year in the annual gay parade....
>
> OTOH, did I mention I live in Scaborough?
BTW Where is this Scab...whatever? Is that near Zitborough?
David The Hamster Malone
Ed McCune wrote:
> I knew it!!! I bin tellin my bud Steve Harper yous guys was all gayed up
> but he didn believe me.
Only in Toronto, eh? BTW, tell your buddy Steve to stop spending all of
our tax money on all of those 'seminar' boondoggles at Meech Lake.
> > OTOH, did I mention I live in Scaborough?
>
> BTW Where is this Scab...whatever? Is that near Zitborough?
I'm glad you... er... spotted that. lol.
David "The Hamster" Malone
Straybullet
We recently got a tape with Jim Rempe doing a player review on his match
against George San Souci from 2000. He beat Ginky 150 to -12. All of the
matches from that tournament are recommended. I also have Grady's Straight
Pool Instructional, Jim Rempe's "How to Run A Rack in Straight Pool" and
"How to run a Hundred Balls" - Great stuff - all on TAPE. You'd have to
get with Pat to see if they are available on dvd - some are - some
aren't. New stuff that I have already ordered are Gerry Watson's (The
Ghost) "Graduation Class" - and Irving Crane vs Joe Balsis from 1966 -
Irvng Crane runs 150 - those are both available on dvd. Pat is also
putting together an instructional dvd called "Straight pool - Pool's
Cruelest Discipline" - not sure when it is coming out, once again, you'll
have to call Pat or check the website www.accu-stats.com / 1-800-828-0397.
Debra Li
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David The Hamster Malone
Straybullet wrote:
> Its my experience that the Accu-stats player review tapes are fantastic.
> snipped useful information...
> You'll have to call Pat or check the website www.accu-stats.com / 1-800-828-0397.
Thanks, Debra. That exactly the type of input I was looking for...
David "The Hamster" Malone
John W. Pierce
I found it very useful to go through Cranfield's "Straight Pool Bible" and
Capelle's "Play Your Best Straight Pool" before (especially), with, and
after watching tapes. Both books cover essentially the same material, with
Capelle being considerably more detailed and with *lots* more diagrams. The
point is that it's often difficult to determine what really good players are
trying to accomplish, and Cranfield and Capelle will tell you that. Also,
I've found that for me playing Equal Offense is very useful practice;
perhaps more so than starting off by setting up straight pool break shots by
hand.
-- jwp
David The Hamster Malone
John W. Pierce wrote:
> I've found that for me playing Equal Offense is very useful practice;
> perhaps more so than starting off by setting up straight pool break shots by
> hand.
That's like FARGO isn't it? I actually do that a lot and often run the
15 balls, but then I can't quite conceive of the best way to break out
the rack if I re-rack them after 14 ala 14.1... so I need to see actual
examples to get the idea. I'm very visually oriented.
Believe it or not, I've never actually seen 14.1 played.
David "The visual Hamster" Malone
Billy
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
To play good or great 14.1, being visually oriented isn't going to be
as helpful as you think. The reason is, you just won't be able to
figure out what the hell they're doing and why. There's no way in the
world you'll be able to figure out what kind of english they're using
on the break ball to scatter some balls out of the rack, then move to
the rail and come back with a good angle so that it stays there instead
of flying all over the table.
Somebody will have to tell that to you either in person, in a book
(Phil Capelle Straight Pool), or in various instructional videos.
There are also a lot of combo shots out of the rack, caroms, throw
shots, etc., that would NEVER look like they can go to the naked
untrained eye. You'll never figure that out on your own either.
If you want to practice 14.1 the way it should be played as opposed to
blasting a rack open in equal offense or fargo...rack 14 balls
up...leave one out somewhere near the rack on either side or
behind...take CB in hand and knock that ball in while trying to scatter
the rack. Then pick the remaining 14 balls off if you can and do it
again. You MUST set yourself up with the correct angle on every shot
and be able to plan far in advance. You can't just pick one or two
balls off here and there with no long range plan for patterns, problem
balls, and even choosing your break ball for the next rack very early.
It's quite complex for someone that has no clue. Hell, it's quite
complex for ANYONE!!
..................................Billy
Ed McCune
rack broke open. A long time ago in another galaxy fa fa away (before I
got plonked) PJ told me (He probably doesn't even remember...ALL! HAIL! P!!)
to do (SURPRISE!!!) what Billy has already mentioned. To start with a 14
ball rack and set up the 15th ball as a break ball, break the rack and
go from there..
Ed
David The Hamster Malone wrote:
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