So if this Jay-Z / Nas thing goes as it should...
A to the L
who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
Jadakiss
AZ
Cormega
Freeway
Sigel
Peedi
people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
place':
Jeezy
Ghostface
Bravehearts
Holy shit, why didn't I think of this sooner?
A to the L
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mattmatical
>who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
>Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
Sounds a bit too east-coastish. I bet they'd try to diversify.
>and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
>Cormega
Did I miss something? Are Nas and Mega cool again?
>people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
>wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
>place':
I have a hard time imagining it period. First, I'd like to see
an AZ/Nas album. That's a team that''s been proven to work.
Matt
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Sumran
A to the L wrote:
> Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
Wow, I just this minute been debating this with myself and pressed
'post' before I read this: http://peaceandpaper.blogspot.com/
I'm thinking Primo, Pete Rock (if he can start making interestng beats
again), Large Pro with a couple from Kanye and Blaze thrown in.
> and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> Jadakiss
> AZ
> Cormega
Yep
> Freeway
> Sigel
> Peedi
Nah leave em.
> people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
> wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
> place':
> Jeezy
> Ghostface
> Bravehearts
Yep. I would throw in Raekwon as well for a track with Nas and Ghost.
Sumran
mattmatical wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:36:25 -0400, A to the L wrote:
>
> >who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
> >Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
>
> Sounds a bit too east-coastish. I bet they'd try to diversify.
>
>
> >and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> >Cormega
>
> Did I miss something? Are Nas and Mega cool again?
Yeah they squashed it a couple of months ago. I can't wait until they
start working together again.
> >people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
> >wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
> >place':
>
> I have a hard time imagining it period. First, I'd like to see
> an AZ/Nas album. That's a team that''s been proven to work.
Yeah I think I have a hard time imagining it over anything but east
cloast beats.
bse
"Sumran" <sumran.choudr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A to the L wrote:
> > who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
> > Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
>
>
> Wow, I just this minute been debating this with myself and pressed
> 'post' before I read this: http://peaceandpaper.blogspot.com/
>
> I'm thinking Primo, Pete Rock (if he can start making interestng beats
> again), Large Pro with a couple from Kanye and Blaze thrown in.
Pete Rock is officially back in the game. IMO. "Be Easy" while not the
best beat he's made is the first thing he's done in a couple of eyars
that doesn't sound exactly like everyhting else he's done recently. It
bounces which is a real start.
Why do you want the producers of Illmatic to produce this album? be
original, your shit is sloppy, get off the dick you motherfucking carbon
copy.
Okay that was a Dre quote I just got carried away, I'm not really
dissing you.
> > and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> > Jadakiss
> > AZ
> > Cormega
>
> Yep
Still don't get Mega.
> > Freeway
> > Sigel
> > Peedi
>
> Nah leave em.
This I'd like.
I think my ideal "Kings Of New York" (I tax that title, when it's
officially announced I should win a prize okay?) album would be like
this:
Production: Primo, Just Blaze, Egoman, Collie Park and ET3
Guests: None except for on two posse cuts. One of them a ROC posse cut
with Free, Beans and Peedi Peedi (Blaze beat) and the other a Nas posse
cut with AZ and if need be Mega (Primo beat). Jungle can shout the hook.
I win.
bse
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Danger3210
A to the L wrote:
> Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
>
Ol' Big Head = Kanye right??? Just making sure but any album produced
by those 3 would be nice...
> and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> Jadakiss
> AZ
> Cormega
> Freeway
> Sigel
> Peedi
>
Why not throw the entire LOX in there...
> people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
> wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
> place':
> Jeezy
> Ghostface
> Bravehearts
>
>
> Holy shit, why didn't I think of this sooner?
>
Like someone else mentioned would love to hear a track with Rae, Ghost,
and Jigga... Add Raekwon and I dont see why this couldn't be one of the
best albums ever...
Even tho most collabo albums disappoint...
-
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Sumran
bse wrote:
> In article <1130516884.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Sumran" <sumran.choudr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A to the L wrote:
> > > who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
> > > Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
> >
> >
> > Wow, I just this minute been debating this with myself and pressed
> > 'post' before I read this: http://peaceandpaper.blogspot.com/
> >
> > I'm thinking Primo, Pete Rock (if he can start making interestng beats
> > again), Large Pro with a couple from Kanye and Blaze thrown in.
>
> Pete Rock is officially back in the game. IMO. "Be Easy" while not the
> best beat he's made is the first thing he's done in a couple of eyars
> that doesn't sound exactly like everyhting else he's done recently. It
> bounces which is a real start.
Yeah Be Easy is nice, unfortunately I started thinking he was returning
to form and then I heard Raekwon's "Kids Thats Rich" which is probably
one of the worst Pete Rock beats I've heard.
> Why do you want the producers of Illmatic to produce this album? be
> original, your shit is sloppy, get off the dick you motherfucking carbon
> copy.
> Okay that was a Dre quote I just got carried away, I'm not really
> dissing you.
Lol! I just think for Jigga and Nas to sound natural on one album it
has to have that sound. I think if they were over all Kanye, Blaze and
Neptunes beats then Jigga might shine but Nas will be horrible. If it
has Illmatic-esque production then they both have a chance to kill it.
Not that I'm saying it should be Illmatic, but that East Coast sound.
> > > and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> > > Jadakiss
> > > AZ
> > > Cormega
> >
> > Yep
>
> Still don't get Mega.
Mega is nice...
> > > Freeway
> > > Sigel
> > > Peedi
> >
> > Nah leave em.
>
> This I'd like.
>
> I think my ideal "Kings Of New York" (I tax that title, when it's
> officially announced I should win a prize okay?) album would be like
> this:
>
> Production: Primo, Just Blaze, Egoman, Collie Park and ET3
> Guests: None except for on two posse cuts. One of them a ROC posse cut
> with Free, Beans and Peedi Peedi (Blaze beat) and the other a Nas posse
> cut with AZ and if need be Mega (Primo beat). Jungle can shout the hook.
>
> I win.
I think Jay would shine on an album like this but I can't see Nas
shining on it. I don't know why but I just have a feeling that Nas
isn't as versatile as Jay when it comes to beats, he sound sperfect
over a certain style but mediocre over most other styles. Make sense,
probably not.
Sumran
Danger3210 wrote:
> A to the L wrote:
> > who'd take a Jay-Z / Nas full album with production from:
> > Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
> >
>
> Ol' Big Head = Kanye right??? Just making sure but any album produced
> by those 3 would be nice...
>
> > and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> > Jadakiss
> > AZ
> > Cormega
> > Freeway
> > Sigel
> > Peedi
> >
>
> Why not throw the entire LOX in there...
>
> > people who would sound good with one or the other of the artists, but
> > wouldn't fit on a cut with both of them cos they would sound 'out of
> > place':
> > Jeezy
> > Ghostface
> > Bravehearts
> >
> >
> > Holy shit, why didn't I think of this sooner?
> >
>
> Like someone else mentioned would love to hear a track with Rae, Ghost,
> and Jigga... Add Raekwon and I dont see why this couldn't be one of the
> best albums ever...
Someone else!? charming....
bse
"Sumran" <sumran.choudr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lol! I just think for Jigga and Nas to sound natural on one album it
> has to have that sound. I think if they were over all Kanye, Blaze and
> Neptunes beats then Jigga might shine but Nas will be horrible. If it
> has Illmatic-esque production then they both have a chance to kill it.
> Not that I'm saying it should be Illmatic, but that East Coast sound.
and
> I think Jay would shine on an album like this but I can't see Nas
> shining on it. I don't know why but I just have a feeling that Nas
> isn't as versatile as Jay when it comes to beats, he sound sperfect
> over a certain style but mediocre over most other styles. Make sense,
> probably not.
See I don't think this is true about Nas. He has barely experimented.
Nas has mainly rocked two types of beats. Classic east coast beats and
crap east coast beats.
He sounded fucking dope over Lil Jon on "Quick To Back Down" and even
better (imo) over Timbaland on "U Owe Me". I think he can be just as
versatile as Jay if he lets himself, its just that he spends his time
trying to please some bizarre definition of what Nas should be.
If Jay is in charge chances are he'd pick the beats. :-) Here's hoping.
kwaj
commercialisation...sort of on the level of Jay's last two collabos with
other artist
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kwaj
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anybody who could kill tone and poke production back in the day, making it
sound street credibile can FLOW OVER ANYTHING.
also dust off your copy of the lost tapes.
plus check street dreams the remix with r kells and contrast that with one
mic (almost rock influenced in its production)
nas can spit fire on most anything - that's why he's leagues ahead of anyone
in the game. jay knows this
Sumran
bse wrote:
> In article <1130528078.0...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Sumran" <sumran.choudr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Lol! I just think for Jigga and Nas to sound natural on one album it
> > has to have that sound. I think if they were over all Kanye, Blaze and
> > Neptunes beats then Jigga might shine but Nas will be horrible. If it
> > has Illmatic-esque production then they both have a chance to kill it.
> > Not that I'm saying it should be Illmatic, but that East Coast sound.
>
> and
>
> > I think Jay would shine on an album like this but I can't see Nas
> > shining on it. I don't know why but I just have a feeling that Nas
> > isn't as versatile as Jay when it comes to beats, he sound sperfect
> > over a certain style but mediocre over most other styles. Make sense,
> > probably not.
>
> See I don't think this is true about Nas. He has barely experimented.
> Nas has mainly rocked two types of beats. Classic east coast beats and
> crap east coast beats.
> He sounded fucking dope over Lil Jon on "Quick To Back Down" and even
> better (imo) over Timbaland on "U Owe Me". I think he can be just as
> versatile as Jay if he lets himself, its just that he spends his time
> trying to please some bizarre definition of what Nas should be.
Yeah you make a good point actually, especially about trying to be what
he thinks Nas should be.
I liked him over U Owe Me, but I've heard him on a few Neptunes remixes
and a couple of other Timbo joints (I'll dig them out if I can find
them) and he sounds ok but not as good as he has done.
I have to admit, haven't heard the Lil Jon track so I'ma check that
out.
> If Jay is in charge chances are he'd pick the beats. :-) Here's hoping.
I fucking hope so!
Sumran
I've been listening to it last three days. I don't see how that proves
that he doesn't sound better over a certain style of beats though. I
mean they're not straight East coast beats but they aren't quite the
same sort of beats that Jay has been rocking so he doesn't really show
his versatility on Lost Tapes no matter how dope it is imo.
> plus check street dreams the remix with r kells and contrast that with one
> mic (almost rock influenced in its production)
> nas can spit fire on most anything
Whoah, I dunno if I agree with this. The man hasn't diversified enough
to suport this statement. It may be true, but what I'm saying is that
he doesn't have enough to back this statement up.
TJ Xenos
kwaj wrote:
>
> anybody who could kill tone and poke production back in the day, making it
> sound street credibile can FLOW OVER ANYTHING.
Yeah, we all saw how nasty fifty came on the massacre.
Sinom
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> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:36:25 -0400, A to the L wrote:
>
> I have a hard time imagining it period. First, I'd like to see
> an AZ/Nas album. That's a team that''s been proven to work.
not gonna happen
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ILL
> Primo, Just Blaze, Ol' Big Head
I think they'd be some scheming mf's. But...
> and guest appearances kept to a mininum but maybe featuring:
> Jadakiss
> AZ
> Cormega
> Freeway
> Sigel
> Peedi
...this would be crazy.
> Bravehearts
What song by them have you ever liked?
ILL
TJ Xenos
ILL wrote:
> > Bravehearts
>
> What song by them have you ever liked?
>
> ILL
Quick to back down. I think they're most common purpose in the rap
game is making nas look better in comparison though....
komo...@hotmail.com
industry can come together after a long bitterness and hatefull words,
now they can start making good music together. finally good news on
music business
bse
komo...@hotmail.com wrote:
heh, Nas as powerful in the industry just doesn't wash for me.