ATTN JMS: Short Stories
captaindebacle
Usenet for awhile), but has there been any thought about releasing a
collection of the short stories that you wrote for the B5 magazine, Amazing
Stories, etc...?
Thanks,
Dan
Joseph DeMartino
more stories means that in addition to paying for permission to
anthologize the existing stories, a publisher would have to pay writers
to create new material exclusively for the book. Dell Books considered
the idea, but while the trilogies initially sold well, sales apparently
fell off to the point where they lost interest in further "B5"
projects. There have been rumors about a game company having taken
over the fiction rights to "B5" and proposing more original novels, but
I haven't heard of anything concrete coming of the deal. Publishing
through Cafe Press isn't an option because there is no separation of
rights when it comes to prose fiction - Warner Bros. own the stories,
not the individual writers.
So the short answer is, I don't think this is going to happen.
Pity.
Joe
Jan
DeMartino says...
>
>There have been rumors about a game company having taken
>over the fiction rights to "B5" and proposing more original novels, but
>I haven't heard of anything concrete coming of the deal.
It still seems to be coming up. Here's part of a post from Mongoose Publishing
about them:
----------------------------------------
<<The first month of releases (I am waiting to hear back for exact confirmation
of date, but assume June/July for now) look like this;
Ranger Dawning by Richard Ford
Actions of Many by MJ Dougherty
Visions of Peace by Matthew Sprange (ahem)
No Rest for the Wicked by Claudia Christian
Second month (July/August);
Ashes of the Past by Bruce Graw
Birth of Heroes by Bryan Steele
And more are in the works, from a variety of authors. I am looking at tackling a
Crusade trilogy that wil wrap up that timeline but the work, is, frankly,
daunting with my schedule.
One bit of good news is that distribution rights have been increased to be
worldwide. . .
. . . except the US.
We aren't picking on you Americans, it is just the way things are for now
_________________
Matthew Sprange
Mongoose Publishing
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com >>
-------------------------
>Publishing
>through Cafe Press isn't an option because there is no separation of
>rights when it comes to prose fiction - Warner Bros. own the stories,
>not the individual writers.
>
>So the short answer is, I don't think this is going to happen.
>
>Pity.
>
Agreed. Some of the magazines with the short stories have gone for major bucks
on Ebay recently.
Jan
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jms...@aol.com
Jan wrote:
> Here's part of a post from Mongoose Publishing
> about them:
>
> ----------------------------------------
> <<The first month of releases (I am waiting to hear back for exact confirmation
> of date, but assume June/July for now) look like this;
>
> Ranger Dawning by Richard Ford
> Actions of Many by MJ Dougherty
> Visions of Peace by Matthew Sprange (ahem)
> No Rest for the Wicked by Claudia Christian
>
> Second month (July/August);
>
> Ashes of the Past by Bruce Graw
> Birth of Heroes by Bryan Steele
>
> And more are in the works, from a variety of authors. I am looking at tackling a
> Crusade trilogy that wil wrap up that timeline but the work, is, frankly,
> daunting with my schedule.
>
Just to confirm, however: these books have nothing to do with B5
continuity or history from a canonical point of view. They are
operating totally outside the loop of what has been authorized before
from a creative perspective, and any claim that these "wrap up" any
sort of timeline within B5 is rather grandiose at best. That timeline
can't be "wrapped up" by anyone who doesn't know what was coming, and
the only person who knows what was coming is me.
As far as I'm concerned, these books have nothing to do with the show.
jms
Laura Appelbaum
news:1147815860.4...@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> Just to confirm, however: these books have nothing to do with B5
> continuity or history from a canonical point of view. They are
> operating totally outside the loop of what has been authorized before
> from a creative perspective, and any claim that these "wrap up" any
> sort of timeline within B5 is rather grandiose at best. That timeline
> can't be "wrapped up" by anyone who doesn't know what was coming, and
> the only person who knows what was coming is me.
>
LMA
Jan
Well...Claudia Christian is supposed to be writing one about what happened to
Ivanova after she left the Station. I read that there might be another actress
in talks to write another.
From everything Mr. Sprange has said about them, I think they want to do well by
the series. I'm just not interested in non-canon, that's all.
jms...@aol.com
Laura Appelbaum wrote:
> So basically, they're WB authorized fan fiction?
At best, yeah, which is why I in all good conscience cannot endorse
them.
jms
Mac Breck
> > Here's part of a post from Mongoose Publishing
> > about them:
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > <<The first month of releases (I am waiting to hear back for exact
confirmation
> > of date, but assume June/July for now) look like this;
> >
> > Ranger Dawning by Richard Ford
> > Actions of Many by MJ Dougherty
> > Visions of Peace by Matthew Sprange (ahem)
> > No Rest for the Wicked by Claudia Christian
> >
> > Second month (July/August);
> >
> > Ashes of the Past by Bruce Graw
> > Birth of Heroes by Bryan Steele
> >
> > And more are in the works, from a variety of authors. I am looking
at tackling a
> > Crusade trilogy that wil wrap up that timeline but the work, is,
frankly,
> > daunting with my schedule.
> >
>
> Just to confirm, however: these books have nothing to do with B5
> continuity or history from a canonical point of view. They are
> operating totally outside the loop of what has been authorized before
> from a creative perspective, and any claim that these "wrap up" any
> sort of timeline within B5 is rather grandiose at best.
That's what I thought.
> That timeline
> can't be "wrapped up" by anyone who doesn't know what was coming,
Exactly!
> and the only person who knows what was coming is me.
And you're not involved with these novels.
> As far as I'm concerned, these books have nothing to do with the show.
>
> jms
And like Jan, I'm not interested in anything non-canonical. However,
lacking a continuation of the Crusade TV series, I am **EXTREMELY**
interested in canonical novels that tell the rest of that story.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Gideon: I thought you said you don't hold a grudge.
Galen: I don't. I have no surviving enemies... at all.
"Brimstone" (1998)
The Angel: Yours is a divine purpose, Ezekiel.
Ezekiel Stone: [referring to the Devil] He'd freak if he heard that.
The Angel: Good. Let him freak.
Jan
>>
>> jms
>
>
>And like Jan, I'm not interested in anything non-canonical. However,
>lacking a continuation of the Crusade TV series, I am **EXTREMELY**
>interested in canonical novels that tell the rest of that story.
>
JMS, is there anything that Mongoose could do get your involvement in future
novels and bring them into canonicity? We know that there was a major faux pas
regarding proper compensation to offer you and a breakdown in communications
but is that break irrevocable?
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
I think what is "needed" (as much as anyone needs good fictional
books) is a "Babylon 5 Universal Encyclopedia," something like the
Dune Encyclopedia, which isn't a story at all but a "future history."
I've read that you had the "history" of the B5 universe outlined for a
million years after the events of B5. An encyclopedic "reference" of
the entire universe and major events would be something I would buy in
an instant.
--
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
jms...@aol.com
Unfortunately it would require an infinite number of pages....
jms
Wendy of NJ
But that's better than an infininte number of monkeys...
-Wendy
Jan
And I imagine that Cafe' Press would be happy to help...
AC
So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
AC
jms...@aol.com
AC wrote:
>
> So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
Not having heard the podcast, I really can't say. All that I can say
is that there has been zero coordination or approvals between Mongoose
and anyone else that I know of. To date, again as far as I know, WB
hasn't been shown what they're doing, certainly I haven't seen it,
don't know what it is, nobody has signed off or approved anything that
they're doing in terms of story, content, characterization, anything.
In the long history of B5, we have never had a situation where a
licensee has decided to just go off and do their own thing without
coordinating the creative aspects through WB and myself. They're doing
this completely off on their own. No other B5 licensed company has
decided, in essence, "screw you, we don't need you," which has been my
perception of their approach from early on, when they first approached
me to try and (in my view) reluctantly get me involved...an initial
approach that was absurd, and insulting. When they came back, the
situation did not measurably improve and the attitude was one of, and
I'm admittedly characterizing it here, sod off, we don't need you, we
can go directly to the fans, who don't need you, we can do it better.
And they went on to kind of poison the well with the fans in that
regard.
And that's where it ended. They've gone off and done their thing,
without any kind of creative approval as far as I know, which I believe
is also a requirement of their contract. Be that as it may...whatever
they're doing, it has no bearing on the B5 universe insofar as I'm
concerned, which is again why I cannot endorse this on a personal or
creative basis.
jms
Mac Breck
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>
> AC wrote:
> >
> > So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
>
> Not having heard the podcast, I really can't say.
Here's the link to the general podcast area:
http://www.babylonpodcast.com/
...and to the specific podcast in question. (I haven't downloaded it
yet, either.)
http://libsyn.com/media/dragonpage/B5_Show013_060426.mp3
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Galen: "There is always hope, only because it's the one thing that no
one has figured out how to kill yet."
(Galen's obviously never met Warner Brothers, TNT-Atlanta or Sci-Fi.)
"Brimstone" (1998)
[Stone lights a candle for the dead in a Catholic church]
Gina: Who's that for?
Ezekiel Stone: Me.
Thunder 06
*cough* internet site *cough* :)
t.k.
jms...@aol.com
Mac Breck wrote:
> > > So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
I've had a chance now to review a transcript of the podcast.
As is known, the Del Rey books were written from outlines that I wrote
for them.
When asked in the podcast "Are you guys going to be working from
Straczynski's outlines for these Crusade novels?" he replies:
"To begin with, yes, but there is only a very limited amount of
material available for Crusade, so we are going to be taking what
exists and forging on with that."
Let me be clear: I have provided no outlines for novels to Mongoose.
Nor are there any outlines of episodes beyond what was shot plus the
two scripted but not shot episodes. There ARE no outlines to which
they could have had access. So this is false.
A little later, he is asked, ""How much input directly are you getting
from JMS?" To which he replies:
"These days it's getting to be less and less," citing that there's an
open invitation to continue but that I'm "a very busy chap."
You cannot have less input than zero input. I have had zero input into
these novels. So to say there is less now means that there was some
before. Soi this is also false.
I don't much like having to be in a position to discuss this publicly,
because it feels like talking out of school, but if someone is saying
that I have had input into something when there has been no such thing,
and that something is based on outlines supposedly by me which do not
exist, and fans are making their decisions based on these statements, I
have to correct them in the interests of accuracy.
jms
Chris
wrote:
> In article <bp5m629fbu7i4prui...@4ax.com>, Wendy of NJ says...
> >
> >On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:20:39 +0000 (UTC), jms...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 23:21:48 +0000 (UTC), jms...@aol.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Laura Appelbaum wrote:
> >>> >> So basically, they're WB authorized fan fiction?
> >>> >
> >>> > At best, yeah, which is why I in all good conscience cannot endorse
> >>> > them.
> >>>
> >>> I think what is "needed" (as much as anyone needs good fictional
> >>> books) is a "Babylon 5 Universal Encyclopedia," something like the
> >>> Dune Encyclopedia, which isn't a story at all but a "future history."
> >>>
> >>> I've read that you had the "history" of the B5 universe outlined for a
> >>> million years after the events of B5. An encyclopedic "reference" of
> >>> the entire universe and major events would be something I would buy in
> >>> an instant.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Unfortunately it would require an infinite number of pages....
> >>
> >>jms
> >>
> >
> >But that's better than an infininte number of monkeys...
> >
> >-Wendy
> >
>
> And I imagine that Cafe' Press would be happy to help...
>
> Jan
they have access to an infinite number of monkeys?
...Chris
Joseph DeMartino
...Chris <
They do if they have access to the internet. <g>
Joe
Wendy of NJ
Oook?
Mac Breck
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I almost said "JoeD, have a bananna." and was able to resist, until you
Oook'd." :-)
Mac Breck
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> "Wendy of NJ" <voxw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5sjo62d0rej60mnrm...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 04:21:59 +0000 (UTC), "Joseph DeMartino"
> > <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> they have access to an infinite number of monkeys?
> > >
> > >...Chris <
> > >
> > >They do if they have access to the internet. <g>
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > Oook?
>
> I almost said "JoeD, have a bananna." and was able to resist, until
you
> Oook'd." :-)
banana
Damn it! That's what I get for posting about a minute after waking up
and before my morning coffee. Argh!
Mac Breck
news:1147905301....@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mac Breck wrote:
> > > > So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
> jms
Actually, AC said that.
"AC" <ala...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b4Lag.1293$UR3...@newsfe7-win.ntli.net...
[....]
> So, are you claiming this Mathew guy is lying in the podcast?
>
> AC
Eh, no biggie.
Kay Shapero
macthe...@yahoo.com says...
> "Wendy of NJ" <voxw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5sjo62d0rej60mnrm...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 04:21:59 +0000 (UTC), "Joseph DeMartino"
> > <jdem...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> they have access to an infinite number of monkeys?
> > >
> > >...Chris <
> > >
> > >They do if they have access to the internet. <g>
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > Oook?
>
> I almost said "JoeD, have a bananna." and was able to resist, until you
> Oook'd." :-)
>
>
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Mac Breck
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Then he doesn't know what's good for him.
Wesley Struebing
Give him a stick to poke for termites...
;-)
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promising liberty and justice for all.
Laura Appelbaum
"Chris" <pel...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In article <e4f79...@drn.newsguy.com>, Jan <janmsc...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In article <bp5m629fbu7i4prui...@4ax.com>, Wendy of NJ
>> says...
>> >
>> >On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:20:39 +0000 (UTC), jms...@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, 16 May 2006 23:21:48 +0000 (UTC), jms...@aol.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Laura Appelbaum wrote:
>> >>> >> So basically, they're WB authorized fan fiction?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > At best, yeah, which is why I in all good conscience cannot endorse
>> >>> > them.
>> >>> a
>> >>> million years after the events of B5. An encyclopedic "reference" of
>> >>> the entire universe and major events would be something I would buy
>> >>> in
>> >>> an instant.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Unfortunately it would require an infinite number of pages....
>> >>
>> >>jms
>> >>
>> >
>> >But that's better than an infininte number of monkeys...
>> >
>> >-Wendy
>> >
>>
>> And I imagine that Cafe' Press would be happy to help...
>>
>> Jan
>
> they have access to an infinite number of monkeys?
Damn, they must be neck-deep in monkeyshit by now -- can you *imagine* how
much feces an infinite number of monkeys could fling???
LMA
Chris
"Laura Appelbaum" <l-app...@mindspring.com> wrote:
ever been to fark.com? <g>
...Chris, i don't have to imagine... i don't have to imagine...
pluther
What, and you think we wouldn't buy an infinite number of pages?
-Pat
phaz...@o2.ie
<voxw...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Oook?
Pratchett fan perchace Wendy?
Phaze
on the "Librarian (oh and Hi Jan) " ID
Jan
<waves> Hi, Phaze! Good to see you over here.
Wendy of NJ
I haven't been able to keep up with the past 10 years worth of
discworld books, but I did read the first batch of them.
-Wendy
phaz...@o2.ie
<voxw...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>I haven't been able to keep up with the past 10 years worth of
>discworld books, but I did read the first batch of them.
>
>-Wendy
volume 7 of the script books, (out @ 10am pacific time today). hmm how
about a pratchett/B5 crossover graphic novel (obviously non-canon)...
Phaze
on the " HIGHLY speculitive" ID