Star Wars 4CD Box Set Review
Darren Primm
"Star Wars Trilogy: The Original Soundtrack Anthology"
FOX records (Arista), 07822-11012-2
4 boxed CDs, plus 64 pg booklet
Price: $US50 ($AUS120)
After waiting months for this box set, after Lukas Kendall informed
the net, that is was coming, it finally arrived. No mean feat getting
it in Australia, two days after it was releases in the US.
With over 130 mins of music unreleased on CD before, this CD set is a
revelation.
First off, Star Wars. The remix of Star Wars is superb. Clear,
aggressive, recording, marvellous sound. Like listening to the score
afresh. Nice also to have the restorations in "Imperial Attack" and
"Inner City".
The Empire Strikes Back.
Finally, the Double Album on CD. Again the sound is excellent. Listening
to Empire, (and the Empire tracks from disc 4) made me confirm that the
Empire score is the finest of the three, full of themes, wonderful music
alround. Two things of notice, the track "City in the Cluds", seems to
be from the film mix, for the female voices, in the track are not as
pronounced as in the Album mix. Also "Finale/End Credits" is not the
album mix also. Seeing as Disc 4 has the film mix, what mix is this one?
Perhaps Lukas can tell us.
Return of the Jedi.
With 30 mins of unreleased music on this CD, this is certainly a
listening pleasure. Sound is again excellent. Favourite pieces on Jedi,
are "The Emperor Arrives" and "First Ewok Battle". An interesting note,
on hearing the unreleased music for the first time, I was slightly
disappointed. I have remembered the music from watching the film many
times, and when it came to listening to the track "First Ewok Battle" in
particular, i found it didnt seem to follow the flow from what I
remembered from listening to the film. Further listenings to the CD,
revealed to me, the depths of orchestration in many tracks, and the
affect sound effects have in the film, expecting sound effects to be
heard with the music, but not hearing any. Hearing the music, away from
the film, reveals how good the music is, and how much the music can be
masked with sound effects, etc.
Also, the track "Main Title/Approaching the Death Star" has an extra few
seconds of music, compared to the original CD. Lukas Kendall's notes
dont indicate this.
One side note the track "The Return of
the Jedi" has a glitsch in the first second of the track. This wasnt on
the original CD. OH well, i guess nothing can be perfect.
Disc 4: Outtakes.
Almost all of this disc has unreleased music in it. Great ot have
favourite pieces of music on this disc, "Losing a Hand", "Carbon
Freeze/etc Suite". One point, the track "Heroic Ewok, Fleet Goes Into
Hyperspace", why was the "Fleet Into Hyperspace" section put at the end of
"Heroic Ewok", when it appears right before it in the film itself?
Having a multi-disc CD player, would be very handy to program tracks
from all one movie together. Hopefully a fifth disc is on the way, to
obtain further music from the trilogy.
The 64 page booklet is marvellous, with lots of pictures, paintings,
information. Lukas Kendall's notes are informative. I like how Lukas
indicated when a piece of music was used in the film and when it wasnt,
and when one piece of music was also used in another section of the
film, or a different film altogether.
All in all, a wondeful box set. Excellent sound quality throughout.
Bravo to the remastering tech people. And many thanks to the people in
volved with the box. One question to Lukas, who first suggested the idea
of a soundtrack anthology?
Darren.
Darren (Daz) Primm, P.O. Box 4405, Melb Uni P.O., Parkville, 3052, Australia
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Atsushi Kanamori
>
>
>Having a multi-disc CD player, would be very handy to program tracks
>from all one movie together. Hopefully a fifth disc is on the way, to
>obtain further music from the trilogy.
>
So, is it too late to post a Wish List for Disc #5?
In any case, here's mine (or a start of one, at least. That 4CD
set covered nearly all my favorites!)
- ANH: the sequence of themes in Obi-Wan's house, as they
talk about Anakin, the Force, hear the Princess's
message and Anchorhead.
- ESB: The probe flying to Hoth (the quiet version that was used
in the film).
- ESB: Luke sees Obi-Wan's image in the snow; Han opens
a Tauntaun.
- ESB: Space Slug vomit sequence (this got sacrificed from
the ESB tracks). The fully unabridged version, of course.
- ESB: Luke's X-Wing departs Dagobah, Leia worries
on Cloud City, and Lando takes her to dine with Darth.
- ANH: Lando flies into Death Star, breaks promise to Han,
A-Wing visits Executor bridge. (Yeah, I know the sequence
actually appeared in ROTJ but...)
Additions and comments welcome.
Lukas Kendall
> "Star Wars Trilogy: The Original Soundtrack Anthology"
> FOX records (Arista), 07822-11012-2
> 4 boxed CDs, plus 64 pg booklet
> Price: $US50 ($AUS120)
> After waiting months for this box set, after Lukas Kendall informed
> the net, that is was coming, it finally arrived. No mean feat getting
> it in Australia, two days after it was releases in the US.
> With over 130 mins of music unreleased on CD before, this CD set is a
> revelation.
I think so, too.
> First off, Star Wars. The remix of Star Wars is superb. Clear,
> aggressive, recording, marvellous sound. Like listening to the score
> afresh. Nice also to have the restorations in "Imperial Attack" and
> "Inner City".
I agree 100% on this one, too. Basically, this is the film mix, rather than
the album mix. It's kind of a in-your-face, warts and all presentation of
the music, as a few flubs and background noises are audible. I'll take a
few warts any day for the film mix's increased stereo and crisper brass.
> The Empire Strikes Back.
> Finally, the Double Album on CD. Again the sound is excellent. Listening
> to Empire, (and the Empire tracks from disc 4) made me confirm that the
> Empire score is the finest of the three, full of themes, wonderful music
> alround. Two things of notice, the track "City in the Cluds", seems to
> be from the film mix, for the female voices, in the track are not as
> pronounced as in the Album mix. Also "Finale/End Credits" is not the
> album mix also. Seeing as Disc 4 has the film mix, what mix is this one?
> Perhaps Lukas can tell us.
Okay, here's the deal. Most of the tracks from Empire in the box set come from
the original session tapes found under a pile of shit somewhere at Lucasfilm.
These were on their last legs, and literally started coming apart when they
were played. Fortunately, these 4-track tapes were able to be mixed down
by Ford Thaxton and Bill Wolford up in Seattle. So, to answer the above
question, the mix used here is neither the film mix nor the album mix, but
rather a new mix. It is regrettable the female voices in City in the Clouds
could not be louder, but mixing is a very slow process and this project was
on a ridiculously short time frame.
There were a few instances where the "new mix" could not be used, due to
drop-outs or other anomalies on the tapes. The track "The Rebels Escape Again"
comes from the 35mm magnetic film stems, i.e. the film mix. (This film mix
was mostly unusable because it was severely edited to fit the film. In fact,
if you listen very closely to The Rebels Escape Again, you will hear around
two seconds edited out from the previous album release near the end of the
track. This is totally unnoticeable unless you know to look for it.) The film
mix was also used for the opening of "City in the Clouds" when Luke and Yoda
are talking at Yoda's hut--the crossfade between this and the Falcon leaving
the Star Destroyer is rather abrupt because of the way the film mix didn't
have much of an ending on it. The album mix was used for only one track,
"Yoda's Theme." This was actually lifted right off the old CD because
our pals at Polydor never found the album masters, instead sending Fox the
artwork which gave people quite a scare before the 4-tracks were found at
Lucasfilm.
The "Finale/End Title" track has around ten seconds missing from the version
on the old album and Polydor CD because it's a different take. I didn't ask
Ford Thaxton if the album take was on the 4-tracks; it probably wasn't. For
the record, the now-omitted ten seconds do not appear in the film.
> Return of the Jedi.
> With 30 mins of unreleased music on this CD, this is certainly a
> listening pleasure. Sound is again excellent. Favourite pieces on Jedi,
> are "The Emperor Arrives" and "First Ewok Battle". An interesting note,
> on hearing the unreleased music for the first time, I was slightly
> disappointed. I have remembered the music from watching the film many
> times, and when it came to listening to the track "First Ewok Battle" in
> particular, i found it didnt seem to follow the flow from what I
> remembered from listening to the film. Further listenings to the CD,
> revealed to me, the depths of orchestration in many tracks, and the
> affect sound effects have in the film, expecting sound effects to be
> heard with the music, but not hearing any. Hearing the music, away from
> the film, reveals how good the music is, and how much the music can be
> masked with sound effects, etc.
I agree. Some have commented that they wished the choir was more audible
in "Final Duel." The version on the CD is the film mix, and if you listen
closely it really isn't a choral piece--it just seems like one in the movie
because it was equalized that way and sound effects mask the rest. I even
alluded to the clashing lightsabers in my notes, I believe, and how they
add a percussive effect in the film.
> Also, the track "Main Title/Approaching the Death Star" has an extra few
> seconds of music, compared to the original CD. Lukas Kendall's notes
> dont indicate this.
Oops. I actually noticed this, but didn't think it important enough to mention.
> One side note the track "The Return of
> the Jedi" has a glitsch in the first second of the track. This wasnt on
> the original CD. OH well, i guess nothing can be perfect.
This was a transferring error that occurred at some point in the process.
It's not too noticeable if you aren't wearing headphones.
> Disc 4: Outtakes.
> Almost all of this disc has unreleased music in it. Great ot have
> favourite pieces of music on this disc, "Losing a Hand", "Carbon
> Freeze/etc Suite". One point, the track "Heroic Ewok, Fleet Goes Into
> Hyperspace", why was the "Fleet Into Hyperspace" section put at the end of
> "Heroic Ewok", when it appears right before it in the film itself?
Ford Thaxton, who sequenced the disc, felt for artistic reasons that the
disc "flowed better" with the fleet music at the end of the track. I don't
have much of an opinion either way.
> Having a multi-disc CD player, would be very handy to program tracks
> from all one movie together. Hopefully a fifth disc is on the way, to
> obtain further music from the trilogy.
> The 64 page booklet is marvellous, with lots of pictures, paintings,
> information. Lukas Kendall's notes are informative. I like how Lukas
> indicated when a piece of music was used in the film and when it wasnt,
> and when one piece of music was also used in another section of the
> film, or a different film altogether.
Thanks! I was actually worried that Lucasfilm might balk at my pointing out
when the music was dicked around with, but all they cared about was that
I spelled "dia noga" correctly, and didn't capitalize "stormtrooper."
> All in all, a wondeful box set. Excellent sound quality throughout.
> Bravo to the remastering tech people. And many thanks to the people in
> volved with the box. One question to Lukas, who first suggested the idea
> of a soundtrack anthology?
I'm not sure. I think it came from talks between Lucasfilm and Fox. Of
course, many people, myself included, thought it would be a cool thing for
Fox to do, but I can't take credit for Fox actually doing it.
Anyway, thanks so much for your comments and compliments--if anyone has
more questions, I'll do my best to answer them.
(Of course, the number one question seems to be "where can I order this?"
Persevere! And bug the hell out of your local record store.)
Lukas Kendall
Lukas Kendall
> Additions and comments welcome.
Before people waste their time, here is a complete list of all the music
left over (i.e. not on the box set) from all three films:
Star Wars:
Main Title (first recorded take) - has alternate opening, with a big crescendo
rather than an accent.
The Robot Auction 2 - 20 seconds long - heard as Luke takes droids into shed
after they are purchased, Threepio lectures Artoo.
The Force/The Princess Reappears/Ben and Luke Talk - 3 very short cues tied
together which take place at Ben's house.
Out of the Floor - 2 min. - starts with one of the motifs from Herrmann's
Psycho as Luke, Han, Ben, et al pop out of floor on Falcon. They get
uniforms and take over that Death Star room. **The only available
tape of this has drop-outs, so this probably could not be released**
(Fortunately it's not very interesting.)
The Empire Strikes Back
The Imperial Probe (film version) - 1 min. - quieter version in movie when
probe makes it way to Hoth and lands.
Ben's Instruction - 3-4 min. - first min. not used in movie, probably written
for extra scenes of Luke wandering in the snow. He sees Ben, then
Han shows up, Tauntaun dies, etc. Great cue.
The Probe Scanner - 3-4 min. - first half not used in movie, intended for
scene where Han and Chewie blow up probe. Then goes to alternate
version of Imperial March (not very different) when we see Imperial
fleet. Then cuts to film version of I.M. when Ozzel and Piett talk
to Vader. You can hear this cue in the radio show in episode 4, when
Vader talks to Ozzel and Piett over the viewscreen and strangles Ozzel.
Yoda Appears - 1 min. - creepy cue heard as Luke unloads stuff from his X-wing
on Dagobah, turns around and there's Yoda.
This Is No Cave - 3 1/2 min. - First minute not used in film - starts with
Vader's theme as TIE bombers pummel the asteroid, then cut to Leia
as she spots Mynock tentacle. Rejoin music in movie as Leia, Han
and Chewie go outside, then go inside, then escape the space slug.
In addition to the first minute of this which was not in the movie
or on the old album, there are a few bars at the end which got
chopped out for the old album. Once again, this is the only music
on the old albums not on the new box set.
Vader's Command - 90 sec. - This is cue heard when we see Falcon attached
to Star Destroyer, most of it not in movie. Umpteenth version of
Vader's theme.
Luke to the Rescue - 1 min. - Luke takes off from Dagobah, cut to Leia and
Han at Cloud City.
Vader Shows Up - 2 min ? - Reprise of "Lando's Palace" theme as group goes to
see Vader and Boba Fett at dinner, then neat transition with Luke
approaching Bespin.
Putting Threepio Together - 1 min. - Chewie starts to put Threepio together
in Cloud City prison.
Trouble in Prison - 2 min. - Lando comes to see Han and co. in their cell.
Carbon Freeze (alternate) - Has around 40 seconds different than film version
towards the end. Really insignificant atonal stuff.
Finale (alternate) - Has different ending, tailing out instead of ending with
a smash to the end credits.
Return of the Jedi
Vader Contacts Luke/The Iron Door - Only tail end of this heard in movie as
droids approach Jabba's. Most of it is for a scene cut from movie
with Vader telepathically contacting Luke on Tatooine--creepy atonal
stuff followed by longer version of music heard in movie as droids
walk to Jabba's.
Jabba's Harp (source music) - That delicate mozart thing heard when we first
we Jabba. Around 4 min.
My Favorite Decoration - 1 min. - Jabba gestures at frozen Han on wall, droids
led to go see EV-9D9.
Jabba's Source (unused) - 90 sec. - really lame source music not in movie.
Sounds like mall elevator music.
Lapti Nek - film version - Tapes for this have yet to be located and probably
will not be located.
Chewie in Chains - 2-3 min. - Really boring music for scene when Chewie is
brought in by Boushh (i.e. Leia); Jabba's theme heard as deal is made.
Fancy Man - Cool source cue, instrumental played by Jabba's band. A mix-down
of this music has yet to be made and may not be made.
Han Solo Returns - film version - has different ending than version on album,
nothing significant.
A Strange Visitor - 2-3 min. - Right before "Fight in the Dungeon," Luke
enters palace and talks to Jabba.
The Sentence - Really boring music after "Fight in the Dungeon" when Jabba
decrees that Luke, Han and Chewie will eat it by Sarlaac.
The Sarlaac Pit - Really short and boring Jabba music as barge & skiffs pull
up at sarlaac pit. Most of it not in movie, and I can see why.
Ben and Luke on a Log/The Rebel Fleet - Most of this is boring atonal music
for scene when Ben and Luke talk, not used in movie. Then we hear
Leia's theme (where music starts in movie) and cool transition to
rebel fleet.
Battle Plans - The real Rebel Briefing.
Jungle Encounter - Cool action music right before speeder bike chase, really
short, though.
After the Bike Chase - Short and insignificant, can't even remember where it
goes.
Leia and Wicket - 2 min. - When Leia and Wicket meet--Ewok music, aaah!!!
More Trouble/Ewoks Emerge - 4 min. - Vader and Emperor talk on Death Star,
Rebels captured by Ewoks on Endor.
Ewok source #1 - Ewok drum music heard as Rebels are brought to village and
prepared for dinner.
Using the Force - 1 min. - Really short and boring cue heard as Luke levitates
Threepio.
Bedtime Stories - 90 sec. - Really cool cue heard as Threepio tells Star Wars
saga to Ewoks--various themes heard on primitive sounding instruments.
Ewok source #2 - More Ewok drums, heard when Rebels are made "part of the
tribe."
Father Meets Son - 3 1/2 min. - Dark cue heard as Luke and Vader talk on
Endor base walkway.
Rebel Forces Captures - 2 min. - Emperor talks to Luke, then cut to Endor
where Rebels are captured, right before "First Ewok Battle."
The Emperor Provokes Luke - 1 min. - Luke grabs his sword, tries to hit Empy.
The Battle Rages - 1 min. - Music heard right after "Luke and Vader Duel,"
when Han and company trick Imperials and capture them by back door of
shield generator.
Space Battle - Re-hash of Star Wars action music as Lando and co. invade
Death Star and Super Star Destroyer is blown up.
And as they say, that's all, folks. As people can see, there's actually
a lot of music left over, but you really don't need to hear most of it.
Trust me, there's around a good hour in there, and then a really boring
extra 30 minutes.
Many people have asked me on the status of the "fifth disc," and the status is
that there is no real status other than it's in Fox limbo. I will advise
if anything happens, but it probably would not be a good idea to expect
the fifth disc, or to bug Fox about it.
E-mail me if you have any questions,
Lukas Kendall
ldke...@unix.amherst.edu
Darren Primm
>So, is it too late to post a Wish List for Disc #5?
Hope not :)
>In any case, here's mine (or a start of one, at least. That 4CD
>set covered nearly all my favorites!)
> - ANH: the sequence of themes in Obi-Wan's house, as they
> talk about Anakin, the Force, hear the Princess's
> message and Anchorhead.
> - ESB: The probe flying to Hoth (the quiet version that was used
> in the film).
> - ESB: Luke sees Obi-Wan's image in the snow; Han opens
> a Tauntaun.
> - ESB: Space Slug vomit sequence (this got sacrificed from
> the ESB tracks). The fully unabridged version, of course.
> - ESB: Luke's X-Wing departs Dagobah, Leia worries
> on Cloud City, and Lando takes her to dine with Darth.
> - ANH: Lando flies into Death Star, breaks promise to Han,
> A-Wing visits Executor bridge. (Yeah, I know the sequence
> actually appeared in ROTJ but...)
Also, there are sections of music from Jedi, that could fit on the fifth
disc, The music where Wicket discovers Leia, when Han steps onthe twig
and alerts the speeder bike scouts. Space battle where Lando says "Come
oh Han, dont let me down" continueing with getting into the bunker to
set the charges (right before the Final LUke/Vader duel). Also the music,
where the driods yell out to the Imperials, saying "Are you looking for
me" just after Leia and Han and Chewie are led out of the bunker.
Probably more in Empire.
Daz.
>Additions and comments welcome.
stargazer
> E-mail me if you have any questions,
This isn't related to the missing cuts, but I have a general interest
question I hoped you might be able to answer here.
Why is there no recording technology code for this set? You know, the
three letter code that indicates whether digital or analog processing
was used during recording, mixing, and mastering [DDD/ADD/AAD]? Were
different modes used for different parts?
BTW, good job to all concerned!
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Jeff Koganuts Koga
>(Of course, the number one question seems to be "where can I order this?"
>Persevere! And bug the hell out of your local record store.)
I just thought I'd pass along a reminder to those of you out there who are still
looking for this great piece of "art". >8P
When I went to the Tower Records/Video that I worked at, I naturally looked
under the Soundtracks section, only to find that it wasn't there. But on a
hunch, and remembering that it was in fact a *boxed* set, I checked under Boxed
Sets, and voila! There it was.
So don't give up folks. Some store employees *can* be brainless when they tell
you they don't have it. Go ahead and physically check the CD shelves. I can
speak from experience on this, because when I was working there, I would make
sure to physically check the item even though the computer would say that the
item was "out of stock". Sometimes computers can be wrong. And people too.
--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
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Jeff Koganuts Koga
>The Empire Strikes Back.
>Finally, the Double Album on CD. Again the sound is excellent. Listening
>to Empire, (and the Empire tracks from disc 4) made me confirm that the
>Empire score is the finest of the three, full of themes, wonderful music
>alround.
Yes, yes, yes!!! Without a doubt, and IMHO of course, I would have to agree
with Darren on this one. Not only is it the most visually interesting, but it's
*dark* and sinister, which is something that was *sorely* lacking in "RotJ".
What do I mean by visually interesting? The whole ditty with the carbon-freeze.
The juxtaposition of reds in the foreground and blues in the background is
great! From what I understand, Irwin Kerschner, the director, was very much
interested in lighting, and the *visual* look of the film. Which really
differentiates it from the other two films.
But I digress. >8P Going back to the music, the creation of the Imperial, Yoda,
Boba Fett, and Bespin themes, to name just a few, are part of what make this
soundtrack superior to the others.
Again, this is all IMHO, and I'm sure others will disagree. But isn't that what
this group was for?
The WatchWher
while ESB is IMO the best film, ROtJ will always be the best musically
for me.
Kalaria
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Lukas Kendall
> This isn't related to the missing cuts, but I have a general interest
> question I hoped you might be able to answer here.
> Why is there no recording technology code for this set? You know, the
> three letter code that indicates whether digital or analog processing
> was used during recording, mixing, and mastering [DDD/ADD/AAD]? Were
> different modes used for different parts?
Hm, I don't know the answer to this. I would assume the discs are ADD--they
are certainly analog recordings presented digitally, with digital transfers
as far as the assembly of the discs went. There probably were some analog
transfers done early on, making this an AAD or ADD combination, if such
a classification exists; also, the mixes were probably analog as well.
So, I change my mind, it's AAD--oh, well, it still sounds great.
Lukas Kendall
The WatchWher
> So, I change my mind, it's AAD--oh, well, it still sounds great.
You're not allowed to do that.
What's wrong with the mind you already have?
Darren Primm
>The "Finale/End Title" track has around ten seconds missing from the version
>on the old album and Polydor CD because it's a different take. I didn't ask
>Ford Thaxton if the album take was on the 4-tracks; it probably wasn't. For
>the record, the now-omitted ten seconds do not appear in the film.
When i listened to the "Finale/End Credits" track on Empire, i couldnt
work out where the ten seconds was missing.
>> Also, the track "Main Title/Approaching the Death Star" has an extra few
>> seconds of music, compared to the original CD. Lukas Kendall's notes
>> dont indicate this.
>Oops. I actually noticed this, but didn't think it important enough to mention.
It wasnt important, it is just Star Wars Music Loonies like myself would
pick it up :-)
>Ford Thaxton, who sequenced the disc, felt for artistic reasons that the
>disc "flowed better" with the fleet music at the end of the track. I don't
>have much of an opinion either way.
I would have preffered "Rebel Fleet Into Hyperspace" before "Heroic
Ewok", but it is of little consequence.
>Thanks! I was actually worried that Lucasfilm might balk at my pointing out
>when the music was dicked around with, but all they cared about was that
>I spelled "dia noga" correctly, and didn't capitalize "stormtrooper."
Who/what/where is "dia noga" ?
>Lukas Kendall
Daz.
Darren Primm
{listing of unused music deleted}
>And as they say, that's all, folks. As people can see, there's actually
>a lot of music left over, but you really don't need to hear most of it.
>Trust me, there's around a good hour in there, and then a really boring
>extra 30 minutes.
an Hour plus 30 mins, cant fit on one CD. We'll see if a fifth disc
comes along or not. Hopefully it will.
Daz.
Darren Primm
>Before people waste their time, here is a complete list of all the music
>left over (i.e. not on the box set) from all three films:
>Star Wars:
>Out of the Floor - 2 min. - starts with one of the motifs from Herrmann's
> Psycho as Luke, Han, Ben, et al pop out of floor on Falcon. They get
> uniforms and take over that Death Star room. **The only available
> tape of this has drop-outs, so this probably could not be released**
> (Fortunately it's not very interesting.)
this could still be placed on the next disc, with a note saying, only
availble recording, and have several drop outs in it.
>Return of the Jedi
>Jabba's Harp (source music) - That delicate mozart thing heard when we first
> we Jabba. Around 4 min.
Any idea whihc Mozart peice this is?>
>Lapti Nek - film version - Tapes for this have yet to be located and probably
> will not be located.
OH well :(
>Chewie in Chains - 2-3 min. - Really boring music for scene when Chewie is
> brought in by Boushh (i.e. Leia); Jabba's theme heard as deal is made.
I didnt think it was boring, the music in this scene.
>Fancy Man - Cool source cue, instrumental played by Jabba's band. A mix-down
> of this music has yet to be made and may not be made.
Hopefully a remix is done of this.
>Leia and Wicket - 2 min. - When Leia and Wicket meet--Ewok music, aaah!!!
Dont you like Ewok Music, Lukas? :-)
>Space Battle - Re-hash of Star Wars action music as Lando and co. invade
> Death Star and Super Star Destroyer is blown up.
It might be a re-hash, but it is a godd re-hash :)
Daz.
Lukas Kendall
> >The "Finale/End Title" track has around ten seconds missing from the version
> >on the old album and Polydor CD because it's a different take. I didn't ask
> >Ford Thaxton if the album take was on the 4-tracks; it probably wasn't. For
> >the record, the now-omitted ten seconds do not appear in the film.
> When i listened to the "Finale/End Credits" track on Empire, i couldnt
> work out where the ten seconds was missing.
Good! Then no one cares.
> >Thanks! I was actually worried that Lucasfilm might balk at my pointing out
> >when the music was dicked around with, but all they cared about was that
> >I spelled "dia noga" correctly, and didn't capitalize "stormtrooper."
> Who/what/where is "dia noga" ?
It's that thing in the garbage masher that grabs Luke. I actually looked
it up in the novel or something to find the name of it.
Lukas
Lukas Kendall
> >Star Wars:
> >Out of the Floor - 2 min. - starts with one of the motifs from Herrmann's
> > Psycho as Luke, Han, Ben, et al pop out of floor on Falcon. They get
> > uniforms and take over that Death Star room. **The only available
> > tape of this has drop-outs, so this probably could not be released**
> > (Fortunately it's not very interesting.)
> this could still be placed on the next disc, with a note saying, only
> availble recording, and have several drop outs in it.
No, it couldn't. Lucasfilm retains "sound quality approval" on these things,
and very nearly vetoed the box due to "too much hiss," which I think is
ridiculous. They would never allow a cue with drop-outs to be released.
> >Return of the Jedi
> >Jabba's Harp (source music) - That delicate mozart thing heard when we first
> > we Jabba. Around 4 min.
> Any idea whihc Mozart peice this is?>
Sorry, I didn't mean that literally. It's by Williams, but in a delicate,
classical vein that I find simplest to describe as like Mozart. Please,
let's not start an argument about this.
> >Chewie in Chains - 2-3 min. - Really boring music for scene when Chewie is
> > brought in by Boushh (i.e. Leia); Jabba's theme heard as deal is made.
> I didnt think it was boring, the music in this scene.
Yeah, but on its own it sucks.
> >Fancy Man - Cool source cue, instrumental played by Jabba's band. A mix-down
> > of this music has yet to be made and may not be made.
> Hopefully a remix is done of this.
I hope so, too.
> >Leia and Wicket - 2 min. - When Leia and Wicket meet--Ewok music, aaah!!!
> Dont you like Ewok Music, Lukas? :-)
Not particularly.
> >Space Battle - Re-hash of Star Wars action music as Lando and co. invade
> > Death Star and Super Star Destroyer is blown up.
> It might be a re-hash, but it is a godd re-hash :)
Oh, I agree.
Lukas
Jeff Koganuts Koga
>ldke...@unix.amherst.edu (Lukas Kendall) writes:
>{listing of unused music deleted}
>>And as they say, that's all, folks. As people can see, there's actually
>>a lot of music left over, but you really don't need to hear most of it.
>>Trust me, there's around a good hour in there, and then a really boring
>>extra 30 minutes.
>an Hour plus 30 mins, cant fit on one CD. We'll see if a fifth disc
>comes along or not. Hopefully it will.
Since a CD can only hold about 75 minutes of music (or an hour and fifteen
minutes), that would leave out fifteen minutes of the boring music that Lukas
has been talking about.
From a completist's standpoint, 15 minutes on the other disc wouldn't be so bad,
just so long as *every* single bit of music is there. Could the music fit onto
something like a CD single? Then the price could theoretically be lower for
such a two-disc set, which would consist of a full-length CD and a CD single.
However, if Lukas can get rid of the *most* boring 15 minutes of music, then
just one CD for the remainder of the trilogy music doesn't sound so bad after
all.
--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
--
Jeff "Koganuts" Koga || "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for
uk...@mcl.ucsb.edu || good blaster at your side, kid."
\(^_^)/ || --Han Solo, "Star Wars: A New Hope"
"Jumping through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!" --Ditto on this one
Darren Primm
>In <933331...@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> d...@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Primm) writes:
>Yes, yes, yes!!! Without a doubt, and IMHO of course, I would have to agree
>with Darren on this one. Not only is it the most visually interesting, but it's
>*dark* and sinister, which is something that was *sorely* lacking in "RotJ".
Nice to see someone agrees with me for once :-)
>Again, this is all IMHO, and I'm sure others will disagree. But isn't that what
>this group was for?
Probably, so long as you mention star wars somewhere in it :-)
> --Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
Daz.
Lukas Kendall
> Since a CD can only hold about 75 minutes of music (or an hour and fifteen
> minutes), that would leave out fifteen minutes of the boring music that Lukas
> has been talking about.
> From a completist's standpoint, 15 minutes on the other disc wouldn't be so bad,
> just so long as *every* single bit of music is there. Could the music fit onto
> something like a CD single? Then the price could theoretically be lower for
> such a two-disc set, which would consist of a full-length CD and a CD single.
> However, if Lukas can get rid of the *most* boring 15 minutes of music, then
> just one CD for the remainder of the trilogy music doesn't sound so bad after
> all.
I swear to you all, the leftover 15 minutes that wouldn't even fit on
disc five is of such an uninteresting and redudnant nature, you would never
miss it. As is, disc five would/will not be a thrilling listening experience.
Lukas
Darren Primm
>Darren Primm (d...@ee.mu.OZ.AU) wrote:
>> When i listened to the "Finale/End Credits" track on Empire, i couldnt
>> work out where the ten seconds was missing.
>Good! Then no one cares.
I am curious as to where the ten seconds is missing.
>> Who/what/where is "dia noga" ?
>It's that thing in the garbage masher that grabs Luke. I actually looked
>it up in the novel or something to find the name of it.
thanks for the info.
>Lukas
Darren Primm
>No, it couldn't. Lucasfilm retains "sound quality approval" on these things,
>and very nearly vetoed the box due to "too much hiss," which I think is
>ridiculous. They would never allow a cue with drop-outs to be released.
Pity, oh well.
>> >Jabba's Harp (source music) - That delicate mozart thing heard when we first
>> > we Jabba. Around 4 min.
>> Any idea whihc Mozart peice this is?>
>Sorry, I didn't mean that literally. It's by Williams, but in a delicate,
>classical vein that I find simplest to describe as like Mozart. Please,
>let's not start an argument about this.
No need to start an argument about it. I sometimes get into trouble for
being to curious and asking to many questions.
>Lukas