Reclaiming History In 2013
David Von Pein
jas
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One word: Excellent!
Coondog
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Should be interesting. Hanks went to great lengths to make Band of
Brothers as historically accurate as possible so at least I don’t
think we will see any Oliver Stone like crap here.
The problem is for us old dude to live until 2013.
Bill Clarke
bigdog
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We know few have read or will read the book. We can only hope that a
lot more will watch the miniseries. Hopefully at least as mean who so
the dreadful Oliver Stone movie, JFK.
slice...@comcast.net
The great part about this is that 2 of the 10 hours will be
devoted to showing how Kennedy's fatal head wound moved four inches--
and how nobody who supported the WC even knew where the wound "was"
for years--and how a ghost 6.5 mm fragment appeared on the head X-ray.
The head wound will be played by Robert DeNiro (because he's
such a chameleon) and the fragment will be played by Bruce Willis (who
was such a convincing ghost in The Sixth Sense).
And I think Cheech and Chong are going to play the two anti-
Castro Cubans who drove Oswald to Silvia Odio's apartment. At this
point, why not?
pamela
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Alas, yet another retelling of the myth of the WCR.
ShutterBun
Another? Have the WC defenders been bombarding the conspiracy theorists
with documentaries and docu-dramas? Give us a break, we had to endure
Oliver Stone and "The Men Who Killed Kennedy."
David Von Pein
>>> "Alas, yet another retelling of the myth of the WCR." <<<
Aw, poor "Pam".
But, on the bright side, if all goes well for Bill Paxton and Tom
Hanks in the next 4.5 years, it appears as though "Pam" will have
another truthful documentary about the events of 11/22/63 to moan
about and to piss on when November 2013 rolls around.
And I'm sure that "Pamela" will thoroughly enjoy attempting to debunk
yet another program that brings the truth of the assassination to a TV/
movie audience. Right, "Pam"?
The raw facts, as we all know, never faze a conspiracist. They'll just
sweep all the known facts and evidence directly into the gutter, like
always.
And, amazingly, CTers like "Pam" don't feel the slightest twinge of
discomfort or uneasiness when they dump in the trash the conclusions
reached by all of these entities:
1.) The WC
2.) The HSCA
3.) The Clark Panel
4.) The Rockefeller Commission
Per the Kennedy conspiracy theorists, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the above
organizations dropped the ball and/or just flat-out LIED about the
assassination of JFK.
ALL FOUR of those outfits got it wrong, according to the all-knowing
CTers.
Even the conspiracy-seeking HSCA got it totally wrong, too, per the
CTers....because virtually all conspiracy believers I've ever talked
to think that JFK was hit in the head from the FRONT, which is not
what the HSCA determined.
To borrow some verbiage from Vince B.:
"Arrogance thought it already had a bad name. That was before it
met Oliver Stone [and virtually all other JFK conspiracy theorists who
are more than willing to dismiss virtually everything uttered by ALL
FOUR of the Governmental committees and commissions mentioned above]."
bigdog
I'm always up for a good comedy. These had more laughs in them than
any production since Blazing Saddles and Young Frankentein.
bigdog
Let the trashing begin. The CTs have already decided they are going to
hate the Paxton/Hanks production. They will be bad mouthing it before HBO
has shown one minute of the miniseries. They will be questioning the
patriotism of Paxton and Hanks. Both will be accused of being government
toadies.
I am quite interested in seeing how they are going to turn a 1600+ page
historical work, much of which is pretty dry, into an entertaining
miniseries that will captivate audiences. We can only hope it will be
close to as good as Band of Brothers which for my money is the greatest
miniseries ever produced.
pamela
"DVP" just doesn't get it. If the WCR had worked the first time,
there would be no need for retelling. Each redux is more cumbersome
than the last.
Even if LHO fired the fatal shots he would have been enabled by people
from all over the world in order to do it. Anthing that tries to
focus only on LHO fails because of this fact.
Ramon F Herrera
wrote:
I wonder how they are going to explain the fact that the US government
had been forced by the public to explain and disclose, in process not
unlike pulling teeth, when it should have been their own initiative.
If LBJ knew perfectly well that he would be among the chief suspects
by the American people, why didn't he order an investigation in which
there would be not a shadow of a doubt, a squeaky clean investigation
where the details where self-consistent?
The killer of Oswald said: "I am the only one who know the truth, just
take me to Washington and I will tell it", and his request was denied.
I don't think anyone from either side denies that there was a media
concerted effort to discredit and ridicule Jim Garrison's
investigation, by far the most revealing so far.
I wonder how are Hanks and Paxton going to explain those mysteries.
-Ramon
ShutterBun
While simultaneously underscoring your appraisal of "Band of
Brothers," I'll also throw a bone to "From the Earth to the Moon,"
which I suspect enjoyed much of the same creative leadership. Also, I
think the format of the latter might be more suited to "Reclaiming
History" since it is so much more compartmentalized, both by subject
matter, and overall style. "Band of Brothers" is more truly a mini-
series, while "From the Earth to the Moon," to me, is more of a
"series of related short films." I think "Reclaiming" might benefit
from such a format, by treating individual aspects of the case as
distinct, self-contained episodes, much as the Warren Report is
divided into sections. "From the Earth..." pays less attention to a
linear timeline, which would lend itself better to such a subject as
the JFK assassination & aftermath.
Anthony Marsh
Yes, they have. Discovery Channel. PBS.
bigdog
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I concur with your evaluation of from the Earth to the Moon. Each episode
stood on its on and it was unnecessary to have seen prior episodes to
follow along. When I got the DVD set, I was suprised to find out I had
seen the Apollo 1 fire episode years earlier without realizing it had been
part of a series.
I also agree that it would be a better format for Reclaiming History than
Band of Brothers. It had more of a docudrama feeling than BOB. Given the
quality of the people heading up the project, I expect it to be a very
good production and am looking forward to it.
ShutterBun
> I wonder how are Hanks and Paxton going to explain those mysteries.
Presumably their series will be based on Bugliosi's book, which
addresses all of those "mysteries." Perhaps not to your satisfaction,
though you'd have to actually read the book to determine that.
Stugrad98
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Here is my challenge to Bugs, Hanks and Paxton:
(1) Include in your film/narrative, the Odio incident. Recall that
Bugs strongly buys into the Odio incident. In fact, he made one of
the most compelling cases for it ever in print.
(2) Include the Bogard car-dealer incident. Again, Bugs believes in
the Bogard incident.
(3) Include a postscript at the end of the series describing the
problems Morley is facing the Joannides material and a call for those
files to be released.
Include those two incidents and the postscript and see if the
audience leaves with the idea that the case is closed.
-Stu