On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro <rcors...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
"crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use here
Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE TALK! I'm very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I understand having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but wow, google talk?
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@chromium.org>wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro <rcors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use here
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:09, Bob Corsaro wrote: > Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE TALK! I'm > very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I understand > having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include > netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but wow, > google talk?
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro wrote: >> > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in >> > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
>> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use >> here
Chromium OS developers try to build everything as open sourced in possible. In fact we even go beyond that most of the time by pushing for any changes made to Chromium OS to be submitted to the appropriate upstream repos rather than just forking or using local patches.
That said some features of Chrome OS and Chromium OS are provided as binary bits or have restricted access as required by the vendors. The Chromium OS developers try to avoid using these and find open source alternatives, but that isn't always possible. If you look through past CL's or discussions, you'll see people pushing to remove any closed source components.
If you find pieces that you feel there are viable open source alternatives, then the best approach is to work with us, the Chromium OS developers, to replace the closed source components.
-Jon
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@chromium.org>wrote:
> chat wise, google talk will still work on chromium os. but i don't > know about doing video/audio chats. > -mike
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:09, Bob Corsaro wrote: > > Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE TALK! > I'm > > very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I > understand > > having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include > > netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but wow, > > google talk?
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro wrote: > >> > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in > >> > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
> >> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use > >> here
> Chromium OS developers try to build everything as open sourced in > possible. In fact we even go beyond that most of the time by pushing for > any changes made to Chromium OS to be submitted to the appropriate upstream > repos rather than just forking or using local patches.
> That said some features of Chrome OS and Chromium OS are provided as > binary bits or have restricted access as required by the vendors. The > Chromium OS developers try to avoid using these and find open source > alternatives, but that isn't always possible. If you look through past > CL's or discussions, you'll see people pushing to remove any closed source > components.
> If you find pieces that you feel there are viable open source > alternatives, then the best approach is to work with us, the Chromium OS > developers, to replace the closed source components.
> -Jon
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@chromium.org>wrote:
>> can't tell if you're serious ...
>> chat wise, google talk will still work on chromium os. but i don't >> know about doing video/audio chats. >> -mike
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:09, Bob Corsaro wrote: >> > Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE >> TALK! I'm >> > very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I >> understand >> > having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include >> > netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but >> wow, >> > google talk?
>> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro wrote: >> >> > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in >> >> > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
>> >> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use >> >> here
> FWIW, We've moved the touchpad driver to open source in the Alex and ZGB > boards starting in R18.
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Kliegman wrote:
>> Chromium OS developers try to build everything as open sourced in >> possible. In fact we even go beyond that most of the time by pushing for >> any changes made to Chromium OS to be submitted to the appropriate upstream >> repos rather than just forking or using local patches.
>> That said some features of Chrome OS and Chromium OS are provided as >> binary bits or have restricted access as required by the vendors. The >> Chromium OS developers try to avoid using these and find open source >> alternatives, but that isn't always possible. If you look through past CL's >> or discussions, you'll see people pushing to remove any closed source >> components.
>> If you find pieces that you feel there are viable open source >> alternatives, then the best approach is to work with us, the Chromium OS >> developers, to replace the closed source components.
>> -Jon
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@chromium.org> >> wrote:
>>> can't tell if you're serious ...
>>> chat wise, google talk will still work on chromium os. but i don't >>> know about doing video/audio chats. >>> -mike
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:09, Bob Corsaro wrote: >>> > Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE >>> > TALK! I'm >>> > very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I >>> > understand >>> > having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include >>> > netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but >>> > wow, >>> > google talk?
>>> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro wrote: >>> >> > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as in >>> >> > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
>>> >> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to use >>> >> here
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:30, Andrew de los Reyes wrote: > > FWIW, We've moved the touchpad driver to open source in the Alex and ZGB > > boards starting in R18.
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Jonathan Kliegman wrote:
> >> Chromium OS developers try to build everything as open sourced in > >> possible. In fact we even go beyond that most of the time by pushing > for > >> any changes made to Chromium OS to be submitted to the appropriate > upstream > >> repos rather than just forking or using local patches.
> >> That said some features of Chrome OS and Chromium OS are provided as > >> binary bits or have restricted access as required by the vendors. The > >> Chromium OS developers try to avoid using these and find open source > >> alternatives, but that isn't always possible. If you look through past > CL's > >> or discussions, you'll see people pushing to remove any closed source > >> components.
> >> If you find pieces that you feel there are viable open source > >> alternatives, then the best approach is to work with us, the Chromium OS > >> developers, to replace the closed source components.
> >> -Jon
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@chromium.org> > >> wrote:
> >>> can't tell if you're serious ...
> >>> chat wise, google talk will still work on chromium os. but i don't > >>> know about doing video/audio chats. > >>> -mike
> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:09, Bob Corsaro wrote: > >>> > Wow. That is shocking. Adobe products, synaptic drivers and GOOGLE > >>> > TALK! I'm > >>> > very surprised and it seems like an assault on free software. I > >>> > understand > >>> > having pressure from the movie industry and not being able to include > >>> > netflix, although I don't like it, and even device manufactures, but > >>> > wow, > >>> > google talk?
> >>> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:54, Bob Corsaro wrote: > >>> >> > I know that Netflix, for example, is not available on the free(as > in > >>> >> > freedom) version. Is the free version crippled in any other ways?
> >>> >> "crippled" is a fairly charged word, and imo, not the right one to > use > >>> >> here
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